The Good . . .

I have been lurking and reading for a few years and I have truely enjoyed the postings of about 8-10 posters or so. I have enjoyed their honesty and candor as they report.

I wanted to provide a trip report with some new and different information. More on that a little later. So my trip is for 12 days less 2 for travel, and I'm in Medellin for 10 days looking to venture out of my comfort zone and experience as much as I can. I travel the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. I spend Wednesday getting reaclimated to Medellin, and it rained much of the day. I called most of the local friends that I had met my last trip to Medellin to say hello. I stayed with a friend that no longer participates on the board but was known as Hugh Grant. I made contact with Blazer as he was going to Medellin for the first time and spoke good Spanish. We were going to meet up on T-day and then we got invited to a great Thanksgiving dinner hosted by Hemp and assisted by Sandman. Collectively there is Hemp, Sandman (and his lovely wife), Blazer, DonGringo, Hugh Grant, a few that I met before not on this board, and friends of Hemp. I made it a point to talk to everyone, and I enjoyed every conversation. Thanksgiving Day was as enjoyable as any I attended growing up in Michigan. There was this one tall dark skinned gal that spoke great english. We got along great because she went to a university in northern Michigan, a state that I grew up in. As the night grew later, DonGringo had made some comments that he was going to "do" this tall gal. Well, the night was comming to an end, and everyone had left. DG had told the two remaining girls to hang around and that we were going out for a bit ( meaning a casa, and I think it was Lindas Chicas ). Well I figured that I was good to go that night or in the morning but not both. There was a casa run scheduled for Friday at 11am, navigated by Sandman. I opted out for Lindas Chicas, and I am glad I did. I felt refreshed the next morning for the casa run. On the ride home to drop me off as DG and Blazer were going out, DG was talking about all the things he was going to do with that pretty tall gal. I am telling you it was a collage of movie titles to best illustrate; "Any Which Way You Can" , "Any Which Way but Loose" , and " Two Mules for Sister Sara" . No, this was not suppose to be a "Clint Eastwood" themed report but it has turned out that way.

I want to say thank you Hemp for your gracious hosting of the Thanksgiving party and I greatly appreciate being a part of it !!!

Friday . . .

We all met back at Hemps apt. at 11am and by the looks of DG and Blazer, I was glad that I went home. DG and Blazer looked like hell warmed over. I told them such in a laughing tone and got in return the customary "thanks and fu". Fitting of course . . . and I laughed at the return.

We are all loaded in Sandmans car heading out, Sandman driving, Hemp in the passenger seat and myself (HDD) DG and Blazer in the back. I am telling you that trip was riotous! The chidding, joking, talking dirty about girls, not being able to drive in Colombia . . . . . I felt like I was fifteen again. I don't care if I was the only one who felt this way, but I want to say that our car ride to the different casas was one of the more enjoyable times on my trip. Sandman, Hemp, DG and Blazer, I really enjoyed our casa run together. The time in the car was a lot of fun.

Numorous times DG started telling the story of what he did with that pretty tall gal from the night before. Each time, as he started his story he went in a different direction hence the three different movie titles from above. Each time he was interupted and he never did finish his story . . . As I would have loved to hear the story, I think the continual failure to finish the story was really burning the fat off Hemps ass. ( If I was to read between the lines, I don't think that Hemp wanted to hear that DG did anything with gal. She truely is a sweetheart!) That was half the fun of the chidding. Truth be told, I don't believe anything happened between them but it sure was fun hearing as he alluded to it.

We went to three casas and I could have done two or three in each of them. I am not as critical as many. A pretty smile, a few pounds extra, long hair or short, fake or real tits . . . . I mean really. I am going to give money for an hours time. I just want a good time. As bad luck would have it, we all pick a girl at Abydos. They were all pretty. My girl was pretty but after a climax 30 minutes into it. She said we were done. I expected 30 more minutes of fun. I tried to argue that she cheated me out of time but the crux of it, I didn't pay for my beer. They played the shell game of prices but in the end, I paid $60 for it all. I'll quite bitching now.

All in all . . . . . it was a great day!

Later, I was to attend a social drinks and dinner party. It was supposedly visit a new dating agency starting up, but as info exchange is loose information at best, when I and a friend showed up, the group was 10 miles down the road. So we called DG and Blazer, and went to meet DG and Blazer in Mayorista. I wanted to see it. I never saw the "line up" per se. All you vetren travelers have seen it many times over but I never have. I did not par - take this night but pledged to come back just to experience it.

Blazer had told me a story how he was there earlier in the week, and while he was with this chick, and neither one had any lube, so she poured his beer into her hand and rubbed it on her pussy as lube. What words come to mind . . . " Priceless " is what comes to mine.

It was late and DG had to pack for an early flight in the morning. So my friend DG and myself left to go back to our respective "homes". For me, it was ~ 1am when I came through the apt door. The apt was dark, I could see that there was a movie that played as it was back to the menu screen, and my friends girl friends purse was on the couch. I went to bed.


The Bad . . . . ( I asked for advise from DG about writing this post and he recomended that I wait until all police actions are finished and I am out of the country. As he provided more guidance, " you can never be too careful". I took that as sound advice so thats why it has taken me a while).

I was in bed, and it was Friday night night / Saturday morning. There was a phone call and my roomate answered. I hear him talking positively as he comes down the stairs (in front of my bedroom).
~ an hour later I hear load music, talking, laughing, and the game "Connect Four" being played. It is a popular game and for ages 5 and up. I like it.

I don't know why but I get up at ~ 3am and look out to see if my laptop is ok on the dining room table. It is fine so I go back to bed. I nap for the next few hours because the music is too loud. The sun starts coming thought the window and i think, "oh crap, I'm going to get up soon and I have not gotten any quality sleep". I think that I'll get up, turn off the loud music and check on my laptop again. I crack the door open again and my laptop is gone... WTF !!!!! I grab my pants, throw them on, and come barreling out of my room.

Immediately I see a young guy that starts screaming right away. I don't know if he is screaming multiple names, commands what. He picks up a chair, and I pick up one too. He throws his at me, and I block it. I then throw mine at him.
I start to chase him around the table and as he tries to run past me, I cut him off. A girl runs out from a near by bedroom and is huddled with the guy. I process that I don't know how many people there are so I, with fists up back out of the dining room into the family room to; 1). see if anyone is there as well and 2). so I can see any one approaching me will be in front of me. I see Hugh Grant and his friend friend and they are passed out on the couch. I start yelling his name and " to get up get up . . . " Nothing. A drunk will wake at bothersome yelling, these two did nothing. I knew they were drugged.

The guy has now turned the corner and wants to engage me, so as he approaches I do basics 101, bring my fists up to protect my face, and he then backs up a step and starts throwing glassware that has remaining drinks left in them. He even throws two partially full 2 liter coke bottles. I also reach down and throw some glassware at him. I don't think that either of us hit each other. I have had enough and I start approaching him and he backs into the kitchen. He backs up and keeps the kitchen island between us. One of the two girls run past me and straight to the kitchen utensils drawer. She pulls out a large steak knife and gestures to give it to the guy, but he is too focused on me. Right below him is the iron from where I had previously ironed my shirt. He never sees the knife that his friend was trying to pass and he picks up the iron and starts to swing it at head heigth. I back up back into the family room again, and as he swings the iron at me, the cord swings around and hits me in the arm. I grab it and start to pull on it. He values the iron too much as he pulls back and low and behold. . . from all the glass and liquid on the floor, he slips and falls to the floor. As he gets up, " I am waiting, waiting, wait for it and "" crack "" I hit him right in the temple / cheek bone "" ". He drops back to his knees and I can tell I gave him tunnel vision. He shakes his head and gets his marbles re-aligned. I am extremely concerned / fearful of stepping on glass because I feel it at my feet at different occassions. As he stands, I get him in a rear naked choke and I am thinking that I am going to walk him all the way down to the security guards at the front gate. As I reach for the dooor and relaease my two-hand hold on his rear naked choke, he pushes out of it and with the door open I step out. As I am stepping out, he grabs me at my arm and around my waist. He is trying to pull me back in . . . . and I can't believe it.

Leaving out more trival details, I run into the elevator, go down stairs and yell at the security gaurds to call the police. While I am down there yelling at them, the guy (drugger / robber) comes running down the parking garage ramp carring the suitcase that ironically had two laptops, mine included. I yell there he is and chase after him. He drops the suitcase and I pick it up and continue to chase him. The, now two girls and the guy, huddle in the middle of the parking garage. It looked like the discovery channel where scared bait fish huddle together as predators circle. I am yelling as a crazy gringo on the hunt would. The " bait fish " run behind a parked car which was there own demise. They trapped themselves. More "BS" about the security guards but finally the police show up. First one a motorcycle, then a second, etc, and then there were nine.

The three went to jail, and I went to file an officeal report. The sad part was as I tried to follow up with the investigator, this was Saturday morning . . . I learned that all three were free on Thursday. They could been released much earlier, but thats when I learned about it.

Ok, I may have gotten too detailed and yet I have left many others out. I will try to conclude the rest in my "Conclusion".



The Ugly . . . . .

As the name implys, if I was to borrow this title, then I had to due an ugly chick, and I did. I went to one of the inexpensive casas and picked an ugly one. I figured that once she was on her knees and I pressed her left cheek to the floor, ugly or pretty . . . they all look similar.



Conclusion --- Tidbits / good advice / anything I can think of that is helpful.

Things that I have learned.

Colombians, when you fight, if you hold your fists in front of your face (fighting 101), they will perceive that you know how to fight. Colombians are soccer players, and they kick. If they detect that you know how to fight, then they will keep things at a distance and throw things at you. This fact was shared with me after the fact, and was exactly how this guy behaved. Thus; keep your fists up and move forward.

The negatives: as I told this very story to local americans, they are quick to say, ' this is a robbery gone bad, why did they not try to just get away ". On two occasions I had my back to the wall and the front door was easy access... so why did they not leave. Why did he run with the suitcase after I left the apt to get help. They are quick to express that he did not feel the end was running, but rather that stealing at any cost was their agenda. That is scary to think that " they " have different thinking ideas to a robbery gone bad.

The security gaurds . . . . . you would not believe. The equalivant of a "home owners association at this apt building", wanted to meet with Hugh Grant. They met on Thursday, and of all things they wanted to talk about the previous guests that seem to have too many girls visit. In the end, the leader of the HOA said to Hugh Grant, he owed his life to the security gaurds, because they held the robbers at machete blade until the police took them (the robbers) away. There was no mention of me at all.
Catholics . . . . what lyiers !!! Lie through your teeth and ask for forgiveness on Sunday . . . . you will still get into heaven. Unbelievable !!! ( This fact was pointed out to me, Colombians and the Catholics ).

Even though we caught the robbers, we were missing somethings; my cell phone, Hugh Grants cell phone, a watch, a nicer digital camera. The sickest part about these facts are, I honestly believe the police stole them. The reason I say this is because, two of the items were in the second bag that was never taken out of the apt by the robbers. This bag was at the door full of stuff that they meant to take. In the presents of the police, I removed all the contents of that second bag, and I vividly remember seeing the nicer digital camera and the watch, but I don't know when they took it. When we broke into the apt, I remember each of the four police went into a different room looking. I remember a police guy go into my room but i don't think negatively of them walking around. My mistake.

On Monday, I went back to New Life, and I picked Karen. She was sweet sweet sweet!!! Genuinely kind hearted girl. Through the rest of the week, I went between Abydos and New Life. Not as eventful as most of you other guys, but thats ok too.

As I hoped to have put together a good report with new or different tidbits of information, it will have to wait until the next time.

-- HDD

That was one crazy experience! When did your friend eventually come to? Did he ever talk about that night, before he was drugged? Was he ever suspicious? And what reaction did he have towards you when he found out you saved his stuff?
I know I have a lot of questions but that story is pretty amazing! Way to go on not backing down and whooping that guy!

Photos?

I remember me talking to you about how Latino/Filipino Catholics are so dishonest because they think they can lie, steal and cheat and just go to confession on Saturday and all is forgiven.

In this instance. The security guard made up a bullshit story to get a bonus/bribe. The cops stole more shit than the actual robbers and the real robbers paid a bribe to the cops and were free to rob more people. The only valiant one in this instance was YOU.

Brazil, Philippines, Cuba, Mexico, Colombia, etc....Catholicism and poverty is a shitty mix.

(Message edited by blazers on December 13, 2010)

"I don't know why but I get up at ~ 3am and look out to see if my laptop is ok on the dining room table."

Too many noobie errors to list in this report but this one is the howler. I don't care if you know your gringo roommate from childhood, NEVER leave your laptop/camera/cell phone out of your sight. It's a tempting target even for honest colombians (who can falter during moments of "opportunity"), although this group sounds like they targeted your buddy from the get go.

Next time, just say you need to check your email and bring it with you into your room. Even if they were honest, what if they spilled a drink on it? Even in normal apartment parties, there's almost always a mishap or argument; I've seen a few accidents in the apartment parties I've held: spilled drinks on furniture, broken glasses, toilet problems, etc.

You should secure/hide valuables before anyone enters, hooker or no (non-pros aren't necessarily any more trustworthy than a hooker). That rule is sacred for me. Only leave the laptop out if you were planning to show some pics or web page, but quietly put it away when you're done. Same with taking pics; discreetly put the camera away once you're done taking the pictures and/or downloading them to a pc.

You also have to proactively manage your own security in apartment parties. Even colombians let their guard down in apartment parties, that's why it's such a tempting target for criminals with access to "knockout drugs." When I hold a party/get-together, I let building security know and I set a policy with them that NO ONE is allowed to leave unless I call down to them that certain people are leaving or I usually even escort them out the building. If they don't see or hear from me, one of them should immediately come upstairs and check on me (and/or try to stop the suspects from leaving).

I learned this on my first trip to Cali; I had an excellent security guy who called me when a hooker I was with had just left my building; the previous time I had walked another hooker out, but this time he didn't see me so he called me right away. So this guy indirectly taught me the everday security concerns down there, and that's how I developed these routines.

SOrry to hear about the robbery attempt. I probably wouldn't have tried to engage them since I value my personal safety more than my laptop. There is only one way in and out of the place and it's through the sercurity guard right? Why no just go straight to him?

Anyways, sounds like a memorable trip. Hope the next one goes more smoothly.

What happened to you sucks, but just chalk it up to another great story to put in your pocket of experiences.....my approach to life.

Unfortunately the police is not much better then most criminals in most South American countries, not just Colombia. That is what you get when you combine low pay with a guy that is given authority and a gun....not a good combo!

In general any apartment that regularly hosts the company of working girls cannot be considered a safe place to store stuff. Personally I have always preferred taking them to hotels/motels, versus my apartment....just safer and I don't have to worry about my shit. On the few occassions I have taken some "trusted" working girls to my apartment in the past (now I live with someone, so no longer possible) I would steal proof everything in advance. Lock every valuable away....and I also can lock the door from the inside and it cannot be opened from the inside without a key - then I hide the key. This prevents stuff from magically walking off while I sleep.

Nobody in or out deal I have with the porteros upon arrival to any place. I tell them to call me when anybody arrives and especially when any girl or person leaves. They call me even when non pros leave. I tell them there will be a nice propina for them upon my departure and that goes along way, believe me.

That's some crazy shit right there. You were fortunate not to have been injured or worse.

Yes you guys, that was crazy!! My official police report was two full legal size pages from top to bottom. I tried to limit the story just to restrict the length of it, but I will probably end up back filling the rest of it.

Thanks Tboy, Blazer, S-69,LM and S9ball for your comments and yes they all have value. PhunLuv (I have edited my initial reply and softened it). You do share some very good points, and if you reread the story, even you will conclude some of your comments are stupid at best! I will take away from your comments "Always protect your stuff at all times!" That I will accept and say thanks for the harsh truth.

The point was, it is 1am, lights are out, the apt owner and his girlfriend and myself are in the apt. I lock the door and 5 sets of three - 3/4" dead-bolts secures the door. The night is over, no cause for concern.

Then bad judgment prevailed. I later learned that, the other guy that got drugged, I'll call him Spy, actually called four times to HG to come out and party with him and his three friends. Now Spy had been out with these three earlier in the week, and he had taken photos of them and also exchanged cell numbers with them. Since I lost my phone, no I don't have any photos, but YES I have a great photo of how pretty evil can look. The other interesting fact is the girls introduced the guy as being gay. That is the second time recently I have heard how introducing a guy as gay will lower the competitive fight for girls attention and the thinking that a gay guy is no threat. In both instances, it is used as a front or lie.

Yes Blazer it was you that I was reciting when referencing the "Saturday sin and Sunday Forgiveness". Also, if you remember Friday morning I made the comment that you two (you and DG) had alot of traveling experience and I would like to hear some stories. You both almost in 'unasen' said "no you don't want to hear our stories". I took that as a humorous warning so I heeded it.

Yes HG does fully acknowledge that if I was not there, it would have been three days before he would have woke up. That is what a few others experienced that had been drugged. Now some of the other victims are talking to each other and I think that is a great thing.
The other guy Spy, he really is expressing remorse. He take full responsibly for this whole thing. I have heard people say "I am sorry" but I truly hear sorrow and remorse from him.


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I want to make this point now and this is the reason for posting.

There is an epidemic of drugging and robbing happening Medellin.

This is the 8th case of drugging or armed robbery of foreigners in the Parque LLeras area, that have been reported in the last 6-8 months. There are two cases of wealthy Colombians that were drugged and robbed.
The more common approach has been, two beautiful girls approach you and get chatty and someone says lets go back to your place . . . .
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Photo: 2 of 3 Robbers
Have you ever seen EVIL look so pretty?

The one on the left in yellow (20yo) was the one that tried to pass the steak knife off to the guy. When she saw he wasn't going to take it, she held it in a hammer-fist hold and looked right down the blade at me. The other on the right (17yo) I didn't see her until down in the parking deck. Humorously, when they were pinned behind the car, I kept yelling at them and gesturing to come here in front of me. The 17yo once came out from behind the car toward me, I drop the suitcase with the laptops, fists up and move toward her, and she backs up and re-huddles with her friends.
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I'll put some final facts and thoughts together and conclude this post.

you should have killed them in self defense with that machete. I've got some punks / wannabe gangsters near my house. One night i see them scoping my truck out late , i walk outside with my 12 gauge with tactical xenon light ,tell them if my trucks touched someone will die , never had a problem after that , knock on wood . If i caught them touching it, i would splatter the muther fuckers into a million pieces. Our society is too lax on crime.

Harddrive,

Glad you were there to save the day. I've met HG only once but know that he is a great guy. I visited his apartment when it was almost finished. Gorgeous place.


Blazers,

You wrote:
Brazil, Philippines, Cuba, Mexico, Colombia, etc....Catholicism and poverty is a shitty mix.
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Yes it is. I have been in all those countries and I must just say that Cuba is probably the least place that you will find a dishonest cop when he's on duty. They take their job seriously. I'd bet that the local Cuban police are the least corrupt than any of the other aforementioned countries. The nice thing also is once off duty, they act just like any other Cuban.

That being said, outside of Havana, you will not find the same hustlers and petty thievery as in the big city. The smaller cities and towns are WAY more mellow and tend to have more trust worthiness amongst the people who live there.

PLUS: I try to explain this as simple as possible but in Cuba CRIME IS AGAINST THE LAW!

I remember a fella that took off on a motor cycle with a back packers knapsack. The guy was easily caught due to the fact that half dozen people saw who did it and readily told the police. The cops arrested him shortly. He was never released before court and was found guilty and He served 4 years in prison for just that!

I also remember a fella who was imprisoned for beating his girlfriend and pimping her. He got 7 years.

I also remember once seeing a guy lift a tourists wallet in a night club and Cuban fellow who also saw the theft grabbed an empty rum bottle and smacked the guy over the head (resulting in splurting blood) for doing it in his hangout.

Home invasions are extremely rare in the smaller towns. No one can keep a secret!

Also (in my belief) with basically no ready access to guns, no drugs and no gangs, Cuba still is one of the safest Latin countries for foreigners.


Back to Medellin/Colombia.

I am probably one of the few Mongers that have been to Medellin dozens of times over 5 1/2 years and still have no young male Colombian friends.

I have absolutely no use or trust of them.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Cubanut,
Totalitarian regimes like Cuba don't take crime lightly (especially crime against tourists).

Cubanut it depends; the colombian guys I hang out with have good middle-class jobs, they make enough money to pay their way, go to a finca on the weekends, etc. The thing is I never mix mongering with these people; they don't know that I do that, or at least it's never discussed or even hinted. I do admit it's not wise to get too trusting with pretty much anyone down there, as sooner or later, you're bound for a big disappointment; it's just the way things are in that country.

Harddrive, no offense was meant, maybe a bit too tough in my first response. Just sorry to see your vacation ruined; it's a shame, but I know most young guys like to party hard down there. Many times you can get away with it (I've down a few things in BOG & MDE that looking back were pretty stupid) but your group rolled the snake eyes and that's just the way it is down there: you have to take precautions and be prepared. A locked door with 5 sets of deadbolts means nothing if the bad guys are inside with a little burundanga and bullshit skills.

LM, SF_H, Smuckin, and CN thanks for all your input as well, and I appreciate your follow up as well PhunLuv.

I sent the email to post the pic but failed to include the pic, so maybe one more day.

"OMFG . . . .!!" While viewing the pics that topfotog posted on Blazers report, I need others opinions. There are a set of pictures with two girls in it. The girl on the left has a red top, and the girl on the right is a bit taller.

QUESTION : Is the girl on the right in Topfotog's pics the same girl that is on the left in the yellow sweater in my picture?
I have a question into topfotog as to when did he meet her.

This is heading in the direction of "Fight Club", and rule number one in fight club is, "we never talk about fight club".

I will not read one word of a report without a photo of something. If you dont want to share photos of the ladies with us, then at least take a picture of the room and general scene.

Even if you lose your camera or it got stolen still no excuse. Go buy a disposable film camera.

This report should just be a chat threat without pics.

Portege, you are acting like a complete idiot once again. What is your problem, you never learned how to read and can only comprehend pictures??

Nah, the crack supply runs low during the holidays. He gets all testy.

Requiring photos for every trip report or post would be too much hyperspecialization. Unless someone has a learning disability that prevents understanding the printed word, the current methods used by members is more than sufficient. Geeeeeeze!

CFK

I'm with you Protege. Like in school, submit an incomplete report, get a low grade. Save all this for the discussion forum. Informative, sure but posted in the wrong place.

Well, as long as I'm bitching I might as well get this out as well. What ever happened to TR Awards? Looks as though the last time any member received one was almost three years back. I received a few months of Premium Membership for a noteworthy TR and it was appreciated. Now there's a spiff which might change the dynamics for the lackluster TR's which seem to be more common these days.

I thought this report was about Medellin...?
Well done on the ass kicking HD!

The first thing I look for is the pictures. If the pictures are pretty good, then that might inspire me to look further into the report and plan a trip If the pictures are not so good then I close it up and move on. No pictures doesnt tell me what I need to know which is if these ladies are for me.

Its cool reading the banter about how you jizzed on some chick's tits, but that doesnt really help me. I want to know first if I can stand to look at the pictures of the ladies for 30 seconds before I dump a wad of $$$ on a big trip.

If I ran a board like this one, then I would make it a rule that in order to do a report you need pictures.

Photo integrated

If I was in your shoes I wouldn’t have stopped punching this guy until he was out cold…Normally I am a completely docile individual but if someone pushes me to the point were fighting is necessary, someone is going to the hospital and to date, its never been me…

Portege-

I don't know you, and I don't dislike you by any means, but for some reason when I see your name in a thread it is always followed up by 3 to 4 to 5 vets ..well..I guess "disagreeing" with not only your comments, but your conduct/cander as well..

In reading your rebuttal I happen to agree with your opinion to an extent..Im wondering though if you were able to massage the application of "finesse" when sharing your opinions..then others would too..and the result would be in your favor..

Pics are nice, but not crucial, and shouldn't be a "deciding" factor on your trip investment... Pics can be deceiving..Each member has there own style, their own preference. Some can pull 10's while others "prefer" pulling 6' 7's..Perfect example is Costa Rica..I think CR gets a lot of bad press, and if everyone based their decision to visit, on a lot of the photos and TR's posted by the majority, EVERYONE would be hesitant to visit.Which unfortunately, I think they are..But, if you Get someone like Jonesie or Mailforme who have the experience and are dialed in over there, it changes your prospective entirely..

I think by adding the requirement of pictures with reports, might disallow the possibility of contributing good intel which is vital to the scope of the community..

Anyway, Im just a kid, I could be wrong..just my $0.02

Question Joseph666, who would post and offer good advice on a site without pics? None, since there would be no site. If all anyone wanted to do was chat about sex trips, we could do that on Twitter.

On a lighter note, I just went through the last part of your TR HD and I think its, in a funny way, hysterical that the pics of the robbers are now submitted through the system to be voted on as quality, and attractive..lol just thought that was kinda funny..

Don't get me wrong though, they still need to die ...

Maybe this will inspire Admin to add a new section of Life or Death (kinda like in Gladiator: Thumb Up or Thumb Down) ;)

Orville Redenbacher-

I thought I said I agreed (to an extent),but wasn't sold on the mandatory adding of pictures...?

As a paying member its your right to choose, I think thats one of the beauties of the model..no?

Guys (and some girls no doubt) are visual creatures. Unlike Protege I will read a TR, pictures or not. I don't usually even offer a TR for much of my wanderings however if there's something to share why not make it interesting and credible? Even Orville Redenbacher understands extra butter makes for better popcorn.

"Even Orville Redenbacher understands extra butter makes for better popcorn"

lol..I love when I don't have to explain humor, someone just gets it..well played..

Then when some member posts pics of girls, Protege has to make unproductive and whacky comments either way - pics or no pics, it makes no difference. Lets take a recent Medellin report with pics of girls he thought were not of his liking, as well as a chain on supposed doctored or fake (did not want to dig for the details) photos for the DR in recent months.

As far as pics in a report - yes, it is nice to see pictures of girls but not necessarily crucial to a report. If pics from some guy is what it takes to "...dump a wad of $$$ on a big trip".." then it is probably better to stay home. Girls come and go, plus there are different things we are looking for -we all have different types we like....plus there is chemistry. I remember pics of some recent AC report of girls that were hot, especially one, however I had encountered her on my previous trip and after a 5 minute interview decided to avoid her....she seemed like a drink shark and it felt like she would give lack luster service. I choose another...less attractive one that serviced me quite well. Why would i want to post a pic of her just to catch hell here?

To me it seems there are too much negative responses to Trip Reports and pictures.....also, if you do find a catch why fuck it up by posting her pics and then some idot later showing her my post on CH?

Sorry, but you got some good guys on this board - but unfortunately some real idots and assholes as well.... best to take the safe route.

I hope by now the majority of us know what girls look like in the top mongering locations - There are the hot and ugly, the expensive and the cheap. If a decision for a trip is going to be made on pictures posted of some R$1 a minute girl then that is just sad.....if you like blonds, but pictures of a hot black girl is posted instead will that also change your mind for taking a particular trip??? Give me a break.

I agree

But to a lesser degree…Perhaps pictures are over emphasized but, I personally like a face to go along with a story, ahem, no matter what the face looks like. ( turning red ) .

And true..Pics don’t always demonstrate the overall beauty of the women at any particular destination…3 years ago I took a trip to Sosoa DR, strictly out of convenience ..I didn’t expect much because of the photos posted here but what I found was a plethora of HOT babes. While I was there I had 5 women and I would say 4 out of the 5 were hotter than anything posted here..

Just think of this...

How many funny/clever/entertaining/useful reports have you read? Probably quite a few.

How many reports with pics have you checked that had crappy pics and reports? Probably quite a few.

Is a mixed bag. One gets to know which reporters provide quality advice, accuracy, good pics, etc.

Bitching about styles does not help. Besides that reporting style evolves and changes back and forth.

To each his own.

Personally, I think all this talk of violence and bravado against the 'robbers' is not realistic. You are a foreigner in THEIR country, a country where life is cheap. You can replace valuables but not your life. I would think twice before striking anyone in a foreign country especially when young women is involved. It will become a 'he said, she said" scenario and YOU will be on the losing end. Don't even get me started on the fact that one girl is officially underaged.

HDD, your story is even more unfortunate because it is not your fault. The problem lays with your knucklehead roommate who invited the girls over in the middle of the night.

I beg to differ

Life is no cheaper anywhere in this world than the USA…The Media just makes most other countries look like savages lying in wait….Certainly one should exercise do diligence in unfamiliar territory but no more so than, say, Goofy from Noville Kansas vacationing in NYC…..Common sense applies everywhere you go…Paranoia Limits your ability to enjoy……..

Birdie: I look forward to reading about you in the news. Try punching out a few guys in Skytrax, the next time you are in Angeles.

Try punching out a guy in New Jersey…I’m talking jail, restraining orders, fines out the as$$, criminal record and civil law suit settlements in the 10 of thousands of dollars, depending on how good an actor the plaintiff is…Could it be worse at the “skytrax? ( whatever that is )

Birdlips

Just so we all have this straight... Four out of the five tickets you punched in the DR were hotter than ANY of the girls on this site? Then why in the fuck would you hook up with a BLISTER in her late thirties on your maiden voyage to AC? Don't think you're contributing to this site, you're just burying yourself deeper with every word.

Well, we all know beauty is in the eye of the beholder…that was just my opinion. I’ve read a few reports on Sosoa girls and the girls were generally described as being so so in the looks department, when I thought on average they were Gorgeous ..but that’s just me..Perhaps Dominican Girls aren’t very photogenic I don’t know

And as far as my sweety goes, I like beautiful women as much as any but looks aren’t an automatic disqualifier with me when choosing a mate..Chimistry IS the determining factor when deciding whether or not I like someone..Sweety just had the right chemistry, what can I say..

Incidentally, When I was in the DR I spent some time with 1 DR chick I particularly liked. I liked her the most out of all the girls I had been with. She , like sweety, was of average build and looks. She didn’t speak a word of English nor did I speak more than a couple words of Spanish, but I had sincere feelings for her. Some how or another it just clicked and I greatly enjoyed the time I spent with her. She was 33 ( now would be 36 ) had two children and stood about 5’5” and had the tightest pussy I have to date fucked

“ don’t think you are contributing to this site”…WTF are you to tell me what to think huh? ..what, you think you own this place?..HUH?…I am contributing NOW and I will CONTRIBUTE in the future. Your free reign is over, cornhole

And BTW…I do like that Irene girl in your last Philippines report…She looks like a much younger version of “sweety”

Harddrive,

thanks for sharing and it certainly looks like you got your money's worth in terms of adventure!

Sandman married? Did I miss that news flash? If so, many gratz SM!

I'm not sure about being stuck in a car with deeg, but I hope you were able to slip a few words in while blazers was taking a breath ;)

-dm

Cornhole? HA! way to chop a guy at the knees and make him question his entire life..thats harsh.. -extreme sarcasm-

I haven't heard that word since the ...9th grade so 13 then 28 now..15 years ago..thats bringin out some old school shit....

Birdy that wasn't a genuine attempt at an insult was it?
Either way lets make it a board rule real quick though to never use that "word" again, k buddy..?

Granted,

Now that you mention it, it was an oldie, wasn’t it... I wasn’t thinking in old terms when I used it though… it was a spoof on his Handle ..obviously I drooped the ‘pop’ and tacked on ‘hole’…“cornhole”..It seemed befitting especially considering he offered it to me in another thread…FOR FREE!!!…

If it really irks you though let me see if I can come up with something a little more original that fits…cant guarantee anything though. My policy is to call a spade a spade…

Don't waste your time Joesph, he doesn't get the drift that you're mocking him just as many before you have already done. He has yet to realize this is and adult site so he resorts to name calling when he's cornered on his brain dead actions and statements. Best not to feed the troll as others have clearly stated.

Oh I got his drift from the get go…and I hope he and >YOU got mine…and for your information I am not alone in the description I gave of you. Would you like to view my personal messages? ....you have few fans around here other than the good o’l boys club, cornhole

FYI

Probably not a good idea to mention sharing messages..PM-("Private" Message) Confidences are broken,trust is lost, relationships ruined..not great road to travel.. Not sayin you have or will..simply sayin..

And no, I didn't get your drift..I lightheartledy teased you about name calling..Im not so sure I belong in the path of your "drift"
Maybe clarification is needed.OR maYBE just maybe,.. we should not completely hijack the thread..

Just my $0.02

(Message edited by joseph666 on December 21, 2010)

I agree joesy

Was just driving home a point…..

No you really didn’t belong in my “drift”..you just sorta drifted into the line of fire..…lol..not my fault…you will have to excuse me for the next few weeks or perhaps months..I took a real beatin in my Posting debut so I am swinging at everything…lol

Joesy?

Way too comfortable Way too quick..

Is that even a name?

YES… “ JOESY!!!”

And don’t ever flatter yourself again thinking your personality is so warm a guy like me would , shall we say, cozy up to you so quickly. Addressing you as “Joesy” wasn’t in the least bit meant to be endearing as you suggest. Though I initially tried to be nice about it, you have now put me in a position where I have to address you in a manner less likely to be misinterpreted, DICK HEAD!!!

Wow, now that we've completely highjacked HD's thread (sincerely sorry HD)...
I'll say this, I don't know who you are,I don't really...care...but I really hope one of these days you slip up and leave your face on one of your pics....So...If I ever bump into on the street (hopefully in a different country) I won't even speak to you, I'll just walk up, and begin to slap your old ass around like a little chubbie school girl...Just think of it as a reinactment of Daniel Day Lewis slapping the shit out of Paul Dano in "There will be blood"
Im sure you'll reply back with something, that will include name calling and little pussy shit like that..but I've met so many little punks like you (even though you're 30 years older) but still to this day, I've never really heard what guys like you have to say,they're never able to finish..probably because they're either in the process of gettin knocked out, or choked out..I'll let you decide..
In closing..dude its so sad that a guy at your age acts like this..But I can tell by the "words" you use and shit you say, that you're a dork, a nerd, and outcast who i probably picked on in highschool.. K Im done,I've been stuck in Heathrow and Frankfurt for the past 3 days so Im a little tired, extremely jet lagged and done with this little flea, as is everyone else on this board Im sure..

Portege,

I was just looking at the 3 reports you have on CH. All are quite detailed and very informative. I did notice however how your 1st report included 268 pictures and the 2nd included 168 pictures but the 3rd only included 20. Why such a drastic decline?

Also:

Have you been to Medellin yet? If not, why not?

I can understand that one would want to get as much visualization of the women of monger destination before shelling out bucks to travel there.

Medellin has become one of the most reported on and photographed monger destinations in the last 3 years on CH. I alone have posted over 300 pictures on Medellin alone and about another 300 from other cities in Colombia since 2005.

There are countless other monger reports on CH with pictures of all sorts of beautiful women from Medellin. Detailed reports ranging from flight, hotel/apartment, taxi costs to the pricing of girls in the very wide venues available in Medellin.

I guess what I am saying is that if you and others

So I am wondering why or what has kept you from making a trip there?

You are a very detailed reporter and a trip report from you on Medellin would be much appreciated even by a veteran Medellin monger as myself.

You are also a photography enthusiast as myself so I also would look forward to your photo contributions as well.

And don't worry, there are many "Women of Color" to be found. Which, from your reports, seems to be of your liking.


Cheers,


Cubanut


Photo: Woman of Color

Cubanut, she is sweet! Very pretty and a smokin hot bod. How much did this chica set you back?

I could definitely do that!

She could single-handedly make my dreams come true, or she could use both hands....

Don't tell Jaguar about her, or he may bring his good luck charms to Medellin!

I still recall you telling me this story at Hooters! What a kicker. I'm glad your alright! Awesome to meet you and I hope we can enjoy the fiesta under better circumstances next time.