By Earthy on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 11:13 am: Edit |
I won my choice of a chica from Team Juanita at the last TJA fiesta, Saturday, July 9. My pick was Sarahi. I had briefly met her at the fiesta. Sarahi has the look of a Huntington Beach surfer girl. She is medium height, slender, with long, light brown hair & golden tan skin.
There were a couple of phone calls to Sampson in order to pick the escort & confirm time, date & hotel details. I met the driver, Julio, across the street from McDonalds on the TJ side of the border. He was on time & speaks perfect English. We walked half a block to Julio's taxi Libre, where Sarahi was waiting. I speak some Espanol & chatted with Sarahi on the way to Hotel Premier. She looks much younger than her age of 25, two kids. Sarahi said she is from Rosarito. I mentioned, there would be a propina grande (big tip) for servicio bueno (good service). Julio stopped the cab at Hotel Premier gate & I paid $21 for one hour of room time. We drove to an enclosed, one car garage. From inside the garage we went up stairs, directly into the suite.
Besides the large, mirrored bedroom with queen size bed, there is a dressing area with a small couch. The bathroom area has a long sink counter, a shower (big enough to party in) with a clear glass door & an enclosed, private toilet.
Sarahi showers, goes into the dressing area & comes out wearing fire engine red negligee. Hugs, kisses, playing around. She removes her top & I remove her panties. No stretch marks, no tatts, only a small, well healed Cesarian scar. I remind her of my offer, propina grande for servicio bueno. More hugs & kissess, BBBJ, 69 position (I just look & inspect by hand). Then Sarahi is on her back. I gently, but intensely, massage her clitoris with lube. Then add two lubed fingers into her pussy. I request sin condon (without condom).
BBFS accomplished, no problema: A couple of positions while lying on the bed, then into perrito (doggy). While fucking Sarahi's cunt from behind, I grab my tube of lube & commence greasing up her asshole. Sarahi seems agreeable. I'm hot for some anal action, but little-earthy is not really hard enough. Oh well, it's worth a try. I start to pentrate her bung hole with my three quarter hard weenie. Sarahi gives a little shout & reflexively jerks her ass. Little-earthy slips out & deflates even more. This is NOT Sarahi's fault. I just decide to grease up my finger & diddle her bung hole that way, during regular perrito. More hugs & kisses, more variations on mish, one leg over my shoulder, both legs up, some hand job action, etc. Sarahi finally gets little-earthy to puke with a greasey hand job.
She goes to shower. I notice the room time has been slightly over an hour already. I shower after Sarahi. I bring my pants (containg wallet) into the bathroom area, where I can keep an eye on them through the clear glass shower door (paranoid?). After my shower & partially dressed, the room phone rings. Time's up! I gave Sarahi a nice tip. She probably expected more. Since I was unable to give Sarahi a thorough ass pounding, I felt a slightly smaller tip was in order. Total room time was 75 minutes, no extra charge from the hotel.
Julio was waiting for us downstairs, at the garage. He asked if I wanted to go the border. I requested El Arco (The Arch) as a drop off point. I was dropped off at my favorite eatery, Restaurante Tia Lore, adjacent to Hotel Enva, on Calle Primera. That was half a block from El Arco. I paid Julio $10 & said my good-byes.
The sex with Sarahi was good, not great. Her BBBJ was good & I enjoyed watching this cutie's head bob up & down. BBFS was a plus. CG & RCG were also a great view, as was perrito with a tiny poke in the anus. She followed my instructions well. Sarahi was not mechanical, but not enthusiasticly amorous. I would call it a borderline GFE. She did hang in there with me for the full hour+. If I had to pay full price for this particular chica, Sarahi would not be a repeat. I've been spoiled by some fantastic SG service from the chicas in my rotation.
For escort price info, you Hombres can get on the Team Juanita website & contact Sampson.
By Blazers on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 04:01 pm: Edit |
Let me translate this:
1. You win free pussy but decide to tell your escort that you will give a big tip for giving good service but don't really tell her what that means. Just tipping her afterwards would suffice. Why bother with giving the indication that you MIGHT tip her even though the pussy is free?
2. You then request BBFS and she immediately realizes what you mean by "good service". If she doesn't allow it, you wont tip. If she allows it, you are likely to give a big tip but has no clue how much that might be because you didn't negotiate clearly(this part is understandable)
3. She realizes that you are an elderly guy who will likely not get her pregnant(most elderly guys get automatic BBFS because of this) and just figures you are too old to give her a disease.(That is the way they think unfortunately) She then allows it.
4. You then request even more than normal service by requesting anal. She goes with it because you offered a BIG TIP. Your dick goes soft, you cant get it in, she is in pain anyways.
5. You then reduce the tip because you got noodle dick and didn't discuss ahead of time whether anal was on the menu(nearly all escorts get extra cash for anal btw)
I am a BBFS proponent but I would never go about it this way and neither should other people. The way you operated this situation was creepy at best and not really all that honest. Instead of keeping it private, you then brag to the boards, knowing full well she would get a tongue lashing from her boss and peers if they find out also.
You lack character and judgment in this instance.
(Message edited by blazers on July 26, 2011)
By Majormajor on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 06:55 pm: Edit |
Agreed.
How can you be cheap on a free date and expect a GFE session?
A decent tip might have gotten you more cheap dates for life.
MM
By Blazers on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 07:54 pm: Edit |
Gfe is expected but he was bribing for pse when he should have been tipping regardless. Instead, he gets a limp dick and penalizes her for it...waif.
(Message edited by Blazers on July 26, 2011)
By Don Marco on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 08:57 pm: Edit |
+1.
By Erip on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 09:09 pm: Edit |
I agree with the stated criticisms but my biggest problem is the reporting (bragging) about the BB service and most particularly, the anal availability. I just don't see the point beyond bragging though the OP will say it was done in the interest of dissemination of good information.
The problem is in a mongering environment like TJ where BBFS and anal are considered premium above and beyond the call of duty service, these services are distributed under certain circumstances to certain mongers. The chica always wants to maintain her YMMV rights. The dumbass and primitive mongers among us read these reports and seek out the chica taking for granted that the same service will be available, and it can get ugly if the ass isn't equally available.
The worst story goes back to around 2002 when a legendary AB chica known for BBBJ for everyone and anal (but not for everyone), literally had her face beaten off by a monger who had read the reports and felt that anal was an entitlement. She refused and he savagely beat her head into the hotel sink. She played dead and almost didn't have to fake it. This charming caballero left her for dead in a pool of blood and got the fuck away. She was admired even by her competitors cause she's a great chica - amazingly the AB chicas collected thousands of dollars and paid for multiple surgeries that actually restored her face to looking better than it was before! That's the happy ending - the story could have ended in a funeral parlor.
Of course this is the most extreme example, but it happened, and the point is in general, there are savages among us who don't understand or accept the YMMV prerogative of the chicas. The last thing we need to do is light up the chicas who provide some with ultra-premium service to the idiots who will pressure the chicas to cross lines they don't care to cross with these guys.
Sarahi is a chica who doesn't even have pics displayed on Sampson's site, so she's protecting her privacy more than most. The last thing she needs are reports like this even if it means a short term bump up in her business from those seeking less safe encounters.
What's really telling about earthy is that he posted this verbatim on another site and took tons of criticism for it (along with plenty of support of course), but he's too cool and narcissistic to catch a clue.
By Catocony on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 10:56 pm: Edit |
It's not that big a deal to post the info here, as the Mexico board is basically dead. If he posted it at TJA then it's far more problematic for the chica.
I check in on TJA from time to time, and am always amazed at the hundreds of posts they get per day for basically Tijuana. You could knock the dust off of posts and trip reports on here - or even Redsnake - that are 10+ years old and the information would still do you well. The Brazil boards are dying on here, since a lot less guys are going there now and, for those of us who still do, there hasn't really been anything new to report since Help shut down a year and a half ago. Argentina used to get a lot of posts on here, as did Costa Rica. Not anymore. But for whatever reason, Mexico mongers seem to enjoy posting the same shit about the same chicas at the same locations day after day after day.
By Copperfieldkid on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 07:51 am: Edit |
Erip - that was a well written statement!
By Bwana_dik on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 08:51 am: Edit |
I agree with Erip's points, although if you take them to their logical conclusion, guys should never report instances where they received BBFS or anal. I assume he really didn't mean that reports should be totally sanitized. After all, plenty of TJ putas insist on CBJs. Does that mean that guys who get BBBJs should not report this? Does it mean that we can only share info on the "premium service" chicas with guys we personally know are copacetic?
I do agree, though, that the OP acted in a pretty callous manner.
So how is it that a single encounter with one puta merits a "trip report?"
By Sobe9ball on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 10:24 am: Edit |
Agreed, no doubt! More like nightmarish, cheap charlie geriatric penthouse forum.
By Jonesie on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 10:37 am: Edit |
Cat, this seems to be turning into the gold watch monger's forum. Mostly because nobody posts new info or reports.
Too bad, it's the most well traveled group, on a site that's laid out much better than other major boards. But it's member's reluctance to stimulate it has turned it into a nursing home...
I'm banned from TJA, funny/stupid story. But you're right, the TJ monger scene is a unique group, that's for sure...
By Erip on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 12:28 pm: Edit |
Bd, you raise a difficult question. I remember the earliest days of the TJ boards in particular and everybody shared everything and so much of the selection process was based on the internet reports. But almost all of us were newbies and fairly clueless as to how to play without explicit guidance.
On the other hand, there was minimal discussion of BBFS and anal - mainly because dudes generally weren't doing it in TJ and there was a critical mass of condemnation for posters who advocated BBFS. But you have to remember it was the mid-90s and much less was understood about HIV and the medications were brand new and unverified as to their efficacy.
In fact, and I invite Hombre to correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall, during the earliest days of this website when it was called TJ Hombre, promotion and vivid discussion of BBFS was all but forbidden here. Of course that didn't survive the expansion of the site's scope to focus on world wide destinations along with a gradual reduction in HIV paranoia.
BBBJ has never been a verboten topic anywhere and in the days of TJ legends, it was impossible for a chica to achieve that level of stardom if she was not known as a reliable BBBJ provider.
As a guy who spits at the "bros before hos" mantra, I have always thought it a bad idea to give up BBFS and anal details as to YMMV chicas. My instinctive approach was hard frozen after the incident involving the AB chica who I knew well for years before and after she was assaulted. I would expect that most of the caballeros on this site who are on the fence would move over to my side if they were personally touched by such an atrocity.
I've encountered many less severe manifestations of detail posting. I've been seeing a now retired TJ sex worker for 4 years and we've grown so close that I'm almost willing to concede that she is an actual novia at this point (as opposed to my usual designation of special amiga with a few others). She's now working a typical low paying job and tells me that what she finally couldn't handle as a bar girl was expectations by customers for her to leave the condom on the night table and give up the ass. She wasn't beyond providing the service, but needed the prerogative to vary her service to keep her mental and emotional space clear to do this work.
So yeah, I'm somebody who keeps sensitive details to PMs and intimate private groups populated only by people I know and trust. If I post about it on a public board, I leave out the chica's name and post for entertainment value and as a "diary" entry for my personal memories, and not as a road map to PSE. And yeah, I'll help teach a newbie how to fish, but I won't bring the big ones up into the boat for him.
Of course that is pretty much the norm for TJ posting these days, but most of the mongers are motivated by not wanting to have their special finds run over by hordes of the clueless who need point to point directions to the wildest adventures, or by plain PLM jealousy. Seems to me that most of the TJ crew who post consistently about BBFS on TJA and divulge the chica's name are the habitual braggarts who measure their self-esteem in terms of how many kudos they can collect for giving away this now rare type of information.
Now a few of us know this chica who we referred to as Dirty Debbie. Debbie and a few like her would gleefully accept Porky Pig's curly pink chorizo deep in their culos, and even give anal consideration to Muammar Gaddafi. These chicas need no protection from internet mongers, only from themselves. So if I encounter a "your mileage won't vary" chica, I'm happy to put it all out there...as a warning!
By Don Marco on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 01:26 pm: Edit |
Personally, I didn't find the details objectionable , but rather the fact he waved a tip in front of her then went cheap charlie on her due to a limp biscuit. She went out of the way service wise IMHO.
Just an overall lack of class for lack of a better term.
By Catocony on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 03:47 pm: Edit |
From what I've seen, BBFS is almost always YMMV. There's a particular girl at Monte Carlo, in Rio, who complained to me that a couple of customers refused to take her up after the second time because they asked for bareback and she refused. Now, this is a garota who I went ass-to-mouth the first time I took her up, and I never even mentioned bareback. I've had it the other way too, with girls who I know have gone bareback with other guys but broke out the rubbers for me.
Of course I didn't say anything, but that's the key. There are way too many fucktards who would literally say "I read on xyz.com that you took it up the ass or let a guy blow inside you bareback, so that's what I want". I've literally sat and stood next to guys who have said this to the girl they were about to take up. One time, while standing in line for a cabine at 4x4, upstairs where the hair dresser is, a guy who didn't speak a word of Portuguese was asking a girl who spoke a little English to tell his girl "no condom". Both garotas wanted to kill the dumbass, and pretty much everyone else standing there.
The simple fact is that BBFS is pretty damned common. Maybe less so in some areas than others, but if you're anywhere in Asia or in Rio, you don't really need to even bring it up. If that's what you need, there are many places to get it. In a place like TJ, where it's pretty uncommon for a lot of guys, there's a reason for that, and I wouldn't post information about it on any board. I would tell my friends, at least the ones who can keep their mouths shut, but I wouldn't post on the internet about her. Especially if it's in TJ, which is overrun with low-budget, dipshit mongers.
By Majormajor on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 04:38 pm: Edit |
The way things are going we may all become low-budget dipshit mongers if Washington does not get their act together.
MM
By Majormajor on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 04:39 pm: Edit |
The way things are going we may all become low-budget dipshit nongers if Washington does not get their act together.
MM
By Earthy on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 01:40 pm: Edit |
I certainly don't want Sarahi to be beaten. This is an accurate & truthful TR. You are all entitled to yor opinions. Remember, I did tip her. The lower tip was based mostly on her relative lack of enthusiasm & responsiveness, as compared to what I am used to from my SG rotation.
I'm not surprised that so many whoremongers are in denial of occurrances such as this being commomplace. Remember, TJ is not middle class America.
(Message edited by Earthy on July 28, 2011)
By Catocony on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 05:51 pm: Edit |
Earthy, have you actually read the comments we've posted? Did you understand them, if so?
She was willing to let you stick your old dick bareback in her ass. How much more enthusiastic do you want a girl to be? You stiffed her on pay, then blagged to everyone what she was willing to do. Overall, your report reinforces a lot of our beliefs about the types of guys who monger in TJ.
By Blazers on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 06:40 pm: Edit |
Earthy has the brains of a rock. He didn't read any of the responses or likely understood them. I don't think most are upset about him BBicking a girl and telling us about it...I do that quite a bit. His problem was the way he operated with the girl then stiffed her because he got a limp dick.
Some guys are so fucking dense and rude that they don't even have a clue when they do something wrong.
By Roadglide on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 11:49 pm: Edit |
So just to be clear, exactly what amount did you tip her?
By Copperfieldkid on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 06:53 am: Edit |
Heck of a dong gone wrong topic. Sounds like both "tips" were small. I bet this whole experience was hard on him.
Apparently what was became...
By Earthy on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 10:33 am: Edit |
You either know how to get over on the bitches, or you don't.
That goes for "civilians," wives, girl friends, mistresses, etc.
And, it's nobody's business what I tipped Sarahi.
(Message edited by Earthy on July 29, 2011)
By Blazers on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 02:24 pm: Edit |
Yeah, limp-dicked elderly guys are the bomb.
By Portege on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 03:34 pm: Edit |
That wasnt cool just giving her ten bucks. Not cool...
By Catocony on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 06:23 pm: Edit |
Blazers, in TJ, that's pretty much a major portion of the mongering community, isn't it?
By Laguy on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 06:52 pm: Edit |
"it's nobody's business what I tipped Sarahi."
Well, so it is everybody's business that you barebacked her, lubed her anus, then barebacked her anally, went limp, and so forth, but what you tipped her is too private to share?
By Erip on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 10:05 pm: Edit |
Catacony: in TJ, that's pretty much a major portion of the mongering community, isn't it?
Cat, seriously don't know where you get that impression which you keep repeating like you mean it, especially since you say you have lurked on TJA. Is it not obvious that 94% of TJA posters are youthful morons? The TJ gringo monger demographic is seriously skewed YOUNG and YOUNGER. Punks galore. The old time nerd factor has been seriously compromised. So much more hip hop then golf shirts and dockers. Hell, even Blazers has gone hip hop to fit in!
It is a different demographic than 10 years ago when more dudes were middle age paunchy white dudes. But they're the ones who have the time and money for world travel, verdad? Shit, even LAKERS is now HQ'd in the PI.
The TJ crew these days is much more ethnically diverse than 10 years ago - asians (mostly YOUNG...really really young), blacks (mostly YOUNG and almost never seen in the zona a decade ago), latinos (Mex-Americans and chicanos mostly YOUNG and even they were not too much in evidence in the past). Oh yeah, lots of young white dudes too. The poor chicas have to deal with plenty of naturally hard high horse power dick.
The old jokes about old fatass whiteguys are just obsolete. All these young idiots look like they work out.
So where have all the old fatass caucasoids gone? Answer: Rio, PI, LOS, China, Indonesia, Cuba, to drink, to Crystal Meth, to PLM hell, et al. and L.A. guys staying home and enjoying a golden age of hometown mongering with a fantastic array of escorts, MPs, and even strip club fronts for brothels. Definitely no need to drive south for cheap thrills. Prices are lower and service is very good to outstanding with the higher price escorts who charge only a tank of gas more than the higher price TJ escorts.
This old fatass whiteboy enjoys the SoCal hometown and sticks to TJ on the "international" front since I'm poor, a slave to the boss, and not very ambulatory with a fucked up spine and bad knees, and having not too horrible a time when I get to go. Not very often anymore. Fucking fresh and fantastic when I do.
By Jjgettis on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 06:52 am: Edit |
Hey I am just happy as hell to see a new trip report here, so much so, that I over looked that it was from TJ. And Earthy may be a dick but he is a good dick: posts his controversial post (which contained good stuff ; I give a pass on photos from TJ since somehow camera never seem to take a focused photo down south) lets us rant over his cheapness and disclosure states and waits a while before a mild comeback. Portege and a few others would be coming back every post with shit.
Nice thread.
By Catocony on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 08:16 am: Edit |
I haven't been to TJ since 2004 I believe, even though I've been to San Diego a bunch of times since then. So, I haven't paid attention to the latest goings-on down there.
By Bwana_dik on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 10:38 am: Edit |
Made a TJ run with 2 buddies last summer and can confirm Erip's description of the crowd. Having not been there in many years, the place felt more like Av. Revolucion than the ZR of old. Hip hop boys and drunken frat boys everywhere.
Cat, I would love to have seen Sweet's reaction to the changes in TJ. He would go berserk.
By Portege on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 06:47 am: Edit |
"You then request BBFS and she immediately realizes what you mean by "good service". If she doesn't allow it, you wont tip. If she allows it, you are likely to give a big tip but has no clue how much that might be because you didn't negotiate clearly(this part is understandable)"
A Monger following the code of ethics knows to lay everything down on the table ahead of time. He should have explained in detail what he wanted, how much the tip would be and told her that he would reduce the tip if things didnt go as planned.
He did trick her and this type of trickery oftentimes leads to fights and ill-will. Not cool...this was a trip report fail...
By Drpbdy on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 05:13 pm: Edit |
I haven't been down in over a year however the last I was down I saw groups of teenage and early twenties guys and girls touring around Hong Kong, Adelitas, and the alley.
That is the kind of unwanted attention that eventually will lead to our sector being destroyed.
By Earthy on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 10:16 am: Edit |
You should be there during the day when the Asian tour group arrives for a complete walking tour of La Zona de Tolorencia. Then, they all go into the Hong Kong, wives included, & watch the naked girlie dancers, lesbian cream show, & don't forget the upside down stripper swinging from the flying trapeze.
By Earthy on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 10:48 am: Edit |
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By Bwana_dik on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 01:58 pm: Edit |
"A Monger following the code of ethics knows..."
WTF? We have a Code of Ethics? I just searched this whole site and can't find it.
Let's be clear. A "tip" is something that's not negotiated. You're talking about a "fee" for additional services if it's negotiated or agreed upon.
One of the stupidest things a monger can do is tell a puta "if you give good service I'll give you a good tip."
First, good service should be the standard expected every time. No tip should ever be "offered" for good service. A tip should be given after the fact, without having had prior discussions, when service is above and beyond what one should expect.
Second, offering a tip for good service is the quickest path to a misunderstanding. She may feel she's provided "good service" when you might be thinking she didn't. She's going to be pretty disappointed when, to her way of thinking, you stiff her with no tip or a small one. Word goes around to the other girls that you're a lying SOB pretty quickly.
Negotiate what you want and what you'll pay, if you're comfortable with that approach. [Some guys feel the business-like approach this entails actually reduces the quality of their interactions with putas.] If she delivers, and goes above and beyond, THEN give her a tip if you're so inclined. But it is never a good idea to offer a performance-based "tip" ahead of time. Doing so usually leads to misunderstandings, and it essentially raises the price of good sex, because the tip becomes part of the negotiated fee.
I can't believe we've got so many amateurs on this board!
By Catocony on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 03:17 pm: Edit |
He is a TJ monger, Bwana. He's lucky he's not trying that crap in a lot of other places.
By Sobe9ball on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 04:32 pm: Edit |
Apparently he's been to the Mansion in MDE as well. I would love to find out what whores he has been with in case I ever ran across them I would bypass them or put on 2 condoms. Especially after hearing he likes to bareback with girls from TJ. That's just plain ole nasty!
By Earthy on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 02:28 pm: Edit |
I am ole & nasty.
I've also been mongering in Cambodia, BKK, Pattaya, Viet Nam, Mexico City, Zihuatanejo, Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, Mexicali......
I still have my notes from Cambodia & Thailand.
Maybe, I'll write a couple of gorey TRs from those.
Yes, I took notes (not photos).
(Message edited by Earthy on August 08, 2011)
By Roadglide on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 08:14 pm: Edit |
I'm sure Sampson will welcome him with open arms at the next fiesta.
By Roadglide on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 08:30 pm: Edit |
I'm sure Sampson will welcome him with open arms at the next fiesta.