This was my 4th Trip to Zhuhai within the last 12 months and never have I seen such poor talent there in LHL.

In previous trips, as I walked into the street from the Min Ann hotel towards the outdoor bar area, I would easily be "hit" by no less than a dozen girls while walking. This trip at best, I get approached by 2 girls over the same walk. Further, in terms of looks and choices, I would say that the talent was down by at least 80 per cent.

At Da Ming Yuen Sauna, (this trip) we were truly in the thick of "happy hour". This resulted fact in us being allocated a normal hotel room rather than the dedicated sex sauna rooms. Will post some pics from an earlier visit of the normal sex sauna room here.

Also posting the pic of the girl you thought was cute. The line up was pretty poor and although I rated her at best a 5, I choose to take her since you passed and you went for the happy smiling girl although she scored only perhaps a 2 at best.

Then, you do usually take girls who gave you positive vibes rather than qualifying them on looks.

Da Min Yuen Sex Sauna's Wet Area Wet Bed.



Da Min Yuen Sex Sauna's Dry bed area.



The girl we both picked in Da Min Yuen's second line up. You passed on her in favour of "monkey face" because you chose to go with positive vibes. She was a pretty good happy session for me.

Photo: Da Min Yuen 01
The girl I had this trip who we both picked but you passed on.

My late night hotel elevator girl we met around 2 am as she was leaving. I did have a very quick ST that was less than satisfactory but the heck, I liked the idea of catching them leaving.

Photo: Hotel Elevator Girl 02
The girl who we met very late in the hotel's elevator on our last night & I took her back for a ST.

This was my first night ST who gave me a very good session. I met her after you left and I was kind of desperate for the lack of talent. She was pretty wet and tight besides being hyper.

Photo: ST Good Session 03
My first night's bottom of the barrel pick for ST. She turned out to be a very good wet session.

One more thing, many of the mongering hotels such as the Min Ann provide the less well prepared monger with these items.

Here are some older pics from last X-mas/NY trip I made.

Ting Ting, one of my favourites from LHL.

Photos: Ting Ting 04 05

Yang Yang, truly "Fresh off the Farm"

Photos: Yang Yang 06 07

Some more pics from earlier visits,

Street Walker prowling on LHL



Another Street Walker on LHL


Another Street Walker on Upper LHL


The LHL Outdoor Bars; a favourite with visitors


Taiwanese BF Financed Bar Owner


Same Bar Owner with chubby bar staff



The Min Ann Hotel on LHL


(Message edited by crazier on June 21, 2006)

Good pics, good report. What got my attention to this TR was the photo of ST. Very, very cute I thought. Any more info. on her, i.e; age? GFE? etc?

Master Bates.

(Message edited by masterbates on June 25, 2006)

ST referred to my Street Walker Short Time that first night in Zhuhai with Mx.

While she was a good responsive wet f*** for my first night, she was not my type in terms of loks so I did not ask for her mobile.

Age was 20 as far as I remember and frankly, I have forgotton her name!

There's too much talent in places in China such as Zhuhai and Chang Ping to keep all personal data unless they prove to be outstanding.

Typically, one trip, you find her there and next trip, its a whole new "season" of talent.

Best to just enjoy what is at hand on arrival and during the trip then to get mentally bogged down with any of the girls.

Unless you have long term intentions for any of the girls.

"In previous trips, as I walked into the street from the Min Ann hotel towards the outdoor bar area, I would easily be "hit" by no less than a dozen girls while walking. This trip at best, I get approached by 2 girls over the same walk. Further, in terms of looks and choices, I would say that the talent was down by at least 80 per cent"

crazier, nice report and nice set of everyday street photos. what do you attribute the drop in talent to? Could you see a decrease in the course of your 4 trips, or was it all of a sudden.

Soc.,

The previous trips were all talent filled. In fact, as I now recall, this trip with Mx was actually my 5th trip.

There was one very short 2 nighter trip to see my "new" GF from the first trip who was one of the "barmaids" from the outdoor bars.

However, on the 3rd visit, I was so taken by her cute buddy friend (who now works in another outdoor bar and Mx simply wants to f*** her too) that I dumped mine there and then and tried unsuccessfully to make a switch on my 4th trip over Christmas.

This trip,
On our first night, I asked a couple of the girls about the slowdown in talent and they said something about more police action at that time.

On our first night, some of the girls said that LHL was "off limits" to them and most of the girls who were unaccompanied by clients (prospects) stayed away.

As far as I know from several posts on China on other sites, the authorities do step up curtailing activities periodically and things go quiet and quality gets down and then, its back to normal.

Happens in Chang Ping too I have read but been lucky to have avoided.

Masterbates,

Are you on a Sickley Skinney Asain Lookin' Quest now? Are YOU TOO borred by TJ, Hermasillo, etc?

Craz,

How can I tell if they're streetwalkers. No shopping bags? A strange look, as if they are in some heavy debts?

I am getting ready to start your report but if I had two weeks in China, what are your top three choices?
I've already hit HK and Macau.

Thanks,
CN

CN.,

In Zhuhai, you walk slowly as if you are looking and they will "hit" you.

Better still, sit at the outdoor bars in the picture, relax, have a drink and look like you are "wanting" and they will "hit you".

I have only been to the following places:

for mongering
Zhuhai

Chang Ping

for work
Shanghai

Beijing

with literally no mongering.

What I know from others is that Beijing and Shanghai are great but expensive.

So, my opinion is down to the two towns that I have been and I would recommend the following:

1) Chang Ping for the BBS and Karaoke places

2) Zhuhai for the Street Walkers
Both of these are very affordable and relatively easy if you do some prep work. Better, go with someone who has been.

I don't have a 3td because I have not been to a third place for mongering. However, from what I hear, there are many other towns in Guangdong where the mongering is very good.

Go do a read in the ISG forum and you will find more information and make up your own mind.

In the last 12 months, I have been to Zhuhai 5 times (because I started with this place first, and Chang Ping 3 times (over the last 8 months) and it takes me more than 3 hours of flying to get there plus some ground travel. So, I guess I am a satisfied customer!

From an American monger's perspective, check out MongerX's FR and perhaps form your own opinion. I belive he is going again soon so maybe you want to schedule your trip to co-incide with his? For that, you will have to ask him.

Chang Ping, Dongguan Province has for some years become a major mongering destination for Hong Kongners, Taiwanese, and now Singaporeans and Malaysians too!

I first read about CP from the Singapore Sammyboy forum and found the accolades too good not to check out myself. Positive experiences of Chinese women within China from my previous visits to border town Zhuhai, China, motivated me to venture beyond, into Guangdong's heartland and, I was optimistic.

Zhuhai's major attraction for me are it's fun and affordable outdoor bars with a huge selection of young Street Walkers to choose from. You sit and they hunt you down.

Last Christmas, through the New Year, I took time off to spend 2 + 1 night in Zhuhai using that as my entry and exit point into China plus 3 nights to savor Chang Ping, Dongguan, in Guangdong Province for the first time.

My aim,to get an overall impression while staying focused on the BBS action, primarily because my Chang Ping mentor Huzige (from the sammyboy forum) prefers BBS places and knows them well. He has been going there for more than 10 years!

BBS refers to what were previously barbershop-type stores fronting what were truly take-out brothels with some, offering on-premise action.

Action from the authorities drove these operators underground. In Chang Ping, when mongers refer to BBS they mean take-out brothels with viewing rooms hidden away from the streets either on the ground floor or sometimes, upper floors of an apartment block in what you would see as slum-like areas of the town.

You won t find them. The street-trawling mamis will find you and take you there! All you do is arrive at the area outside the Yalan Hotel after 2.30pm or later.

A second visit earlier this year with other friends from Singapore allowed me to check out two of the infamous upmarket Karaoke joints (Amazon Karaoke @ Versailles Hotel and New Century Hotel Karaoke Cub) while venturing again into the BBS places which are great value for money. At 200 yuans for ST (in your hotel room) and an additional 300 yuans to convert to LT after test driving it's unbeatable value for money.

Day time was spent in foot massage places and saunas of which some were specifically for sexual services and, they proved to be great too. The typical foot massage places in Chang Ping are huge complexes offering patrons many private rooms where luxurious massage lounge chairs with full facilities are provided in privacy for groups of different sizes. Rooms would accommodate 3 chairs or more and there will be a well-hung Television set for your entertainment while you get pampered with complimentary fruits and basic drinks beyond which, you pay for what else you order and pampering foot and body massage service @ 40 每 45 yuans per hour.. As compared with Zhuhai, there are more well trained cute young masseuses in Chang Ping and, some will proposition you to develop a relationship. With some effort, you will bed a few.

Based on the two visits, it became apparent that CP is a PRIORITY repeat mongering destination for me.

This recent third enabled me to sample more of the BBS and Amazon. Days were spent in more foot massage places plus a sex sauna (Virgin Sauna). My wingman had his perfect girl and I had mine. Unfortunately, no photographs were allowed and my girl refused steadfastly to let me. She volunteered a promise to let me take her out (and photograph her elsewhere) during my next visit on her day off.

On one evening, I took Mx to Amazon Karaoke and even if you are adverse to Karaokes, you should try it once at the Amazon. Charges for the Karaoke facilities are reasonable based on the room size

My wingman this visit was Mongerx, an American like many on this board. His limited less than satisfactory experiences with Chinese WLs in Singapore and Indonesia ensured that he approached the trip with apprehension and limited expectations.

I preferred to let Mongerx report his personal experiences the way he saw them. After all my impressions are pretty skewed by the fact that I am Chinese and an Asian who lives in Singapore. The poor quality SW quality we had in Zhuhai did not help to enhance his expectations for Chang Ping.

For those of you who worry about language, my advice is to bring a good phrase book and dictionary to communicate in English mixed in with some Mandarin words 每 sort of winging along. You will find that the experience is most enriching and the people you meet love to learn some English from you too!

We plotted a two nighter stop in Zhuhai (flying in via Macau) from where we took the bus from Zhuhai's Xiang Zhou bus station, a 20 minute bus ride from Gongbei district.

The journey of about 2 hours and 30 minutes makes one stop in the town of Dongguan within Dongguan city, before arriving in Chang Ping town.

I expect that Mx's report will be more than thorough and detailed for logistics so, my focus here will be pictures with some blurbs about each picture and where appropriate, comments.

As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.

1) The Reception of the 3-star Fu Hao Hotel (aka as the Plutocrat Hotel in English) in Chang Ping where I stayed on my first visit.



2) My room in the Fu Hao Hotel (aka Plutocrat Hotel in English)





3) The hotel's toilet minibar offerings. In mongering towns like Zhuhai and Chang Ping, the hotel provides sex-toiletries on a pay per use basis. Condoms, PH balance cleansers for her and him etc.




4) My first BBS takeout Girl Lili playing with my oversized wear-over sunglasses.

Photo: Lili 08

5) Some Nudes of Lili in my hotel room. It was OK with her so long as I did not have her face in the nudes!

Photos: Lili 09 10

6) Lili after the deed, dressed up and ready to leave.

7) My Second BBS girl Siow Chian from Kent's BBS place.

Photo: Siow Chian 12

8) A couple of nudes of her 每 similarly, she would not do nudes with her face exposed.

Photos: Siow Chian 13 14

9) Some key hotel landmarks that you might want to recognize when you visit Chang Ping.

The Yalan Hotel is KEY for the locality of most of the thriving BBS action. All you need do is take a taxi and get out at the hotel and you will be descended upon.
Best timing is after 2.30pm - 6pm before the troops of buyers wander through especially on weekends. Friday evenings and Saturdays will see numerous mini groups from HK wandering around. Best to avoid these days.



10) Some typical shots of the Yalan BBS area. From the main street.





11) After 6pm, there is a side street a short stretch (towards the main town) from the Yalan Hotel Corner where the BBS shops are right on the street. (deserted day shot of the street).



To find it, show the lighted signboard to your taxi driver or hotel concierge to ask him to write down in Chinese the name of this small hotel. This will get you there.



On this street, the Mamis will line up her girls at the side of your taxi for you to see, touch and choose. I went with Huzige (from the S-boy forum) and his friendly regular Taxi driver Ah Jun.



12) Some landmark hotels that you may choose to stay in or use as references for getting to the main street area of Chang Ping.

The Huei Mei Hotel located right on the major Zhongyuan street of Chang Ping.



Huei Mei Hotel's Restaurant by night.



The Virgin Hotel. Next door you will find the Sexy Sauna at it's Annexe building. The Hotel's lighted signboard is included here too. Next to that is the Huei Mei Hotel's Massage joint which is detatched from the main hotel building across the mini-park (cannot see in this picture).





A night shot of the 4-star Miraton Hotel that I stayed in for my second and third visit with Mx. Its a great location and great value for money.



Next door to the Miraton Hotel is the Hui Hua Hotel ( Jia Huei Group) which is apparently owned by one of the brothers of the owner of the Miraton Hotel. It is of a similar standard and some mongers prefer this to the Miraton Hotel. I may try this property on the next visit if the price is right.



Opposite the road from the Miraton and Hui Hua Hotel is the Hua Tai Hotel (aka known as the Walter Hotel in English).



Note that locals do not know the English names of the hotels will be lost if you use them to ask your way around. Best to have the names (cards) with you (or printed out) and show them to find your way around.

At the Walter Hotel, is where Mongerx and I had a great foot massage session and the vibes with the ladies were pretty intense all the way. In fact, as I recall, they were more or less propositioning us to have dinner with them & to take them out! I ignored this as my masseuse was older and not my type.

13) The Foot massage session at the Walter Hotel. Both Mx and I had very nice groin area massage to conclude the session and they propositioned us for dinner and perhaps more! I did not pursue this as my girl was older and not my type! Besides, I had a dinner date with the masseuse from the Huei Mei Foot Massage place.

Photo: Walter Hotel Massage 15

Somewhere behind this hotel and the adjoining shopping complex, there is an area nicknamed the catacombs by some mongers from the ISG forum.

There in dingy surrounds, you will find ST tricks for 30 yuans (about US$ 3.75 - no zeros missing here) which are sessions of 20 minutes max. I have posted some information and a picture in Mongerx's report under Logistics. Mx and I made a lame attempt to find the catacombs with no success but we weren t really trying that hard as we agreed it was not our cup-of-tea.

Quoted from From ISG's post,
We visited the catacombs twice, and being a catacomb lover, I was in heaven. It was an amazing experience. The area is not all that big, maybe 40 girls in this area. We got a lot of stares and giggles and eventually had an entourage of Chinese guys following us around just to see what we would do. No, not a Sha Tsui type threatening group, they were just intensely curious as to what their white monger counterparts do.

You get 20 minutes max, no BJ, in a prison cell room. The sheets were clean, but the rest looked like 500 BC. I thought they had Papas, but one girl told me they do not, its all independent action and those places are where they live. I don t know how that's possible, but that's what she said. The rate is 30 kwai (local slang for Yuans). DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT give the girls more than 30 kwai. If she wants more, move onto the next one. There are some really adorable girls here if you are into the Farm Girl thing (that's my thing, so I loved it). They are not local girls, both my girls were from Hunan. They are out in force most hours of the day and night, but you will have better luck if you go after dark, they get much friendlier when they can t be seen

14) My Hotel New Century Hotel Foot Massage girl friend from my first visit to CP.

After a two hour session, I went again for another session the next evening.
Dated her by buying out her working time at 45 yuans per hour for 5 hours.
We went out to the World of Music Club near Xindi Disco.

There, she asked me to play lie-dice with her and I feigned ignorance. She proceeded to teach me with loser to drink as the stakes.

Several bottles of beer later, she was toppled and we hopped into a minivan taxi and headed for her lodgings at the New Century Hotel locality. When we arrived, she was pretty drunk and I told the mini-van driver to drive to my hotel.

I carried her upstairs to my room, changed her into these robes and gave her the hot-towel recovery treatment. When she woke up, she was surprised that I had not ravaged her. Later, she thanked me by giving herself to me and thereafter, became my girlfriend for the period until my next visit when she came to spend an evening with me after work. As she is too serious about the relationship, I have moved on.

Photo: Kwai Kwai 16

Here she is sending me off on my departure that first visit. Not really my kind of looks but I was looking for a quick conquest and she was there! Sort of luck of the draw.

Photo: Xia Yue 17

15) Motorcycle taxis at the Chang Ping Bus Station waiting for passengers.



16) I used Hong Kong as my entry point to China on my second trip to Chang Ping. The KCR double decker trains via Hung Hum station in Hong Kong are a neat and easy way to get there.
You exit Hong Kong at the HH Station and formally enter China at the Chang Ping (Dongguan Station) on arrival.

Passengers boarding the train and showing the attendant the tickets.




17) Wang Yuan, my Amazon Karaoke Girl in my room on my second visit to Chang Ping. Many of the girls have too much make up for my liking and I picked her for her simplicity. She proved to be a very good partner for the night in the Karaoke and in the room.

Photos: Wang Yuen 18 19 20

I liked the session so much I called her in on my last morning of my same trip just before I checked out of my hotel and took the train back to Hong Kong.

18) My Amazon Karaoke girl from this last trip with Mx. Unfortunately, the session with her was not as great as I like, just ordinary. As you will deduce by now, I like them smaller and cute rather than beautiful with less make up.

Photo: Amazon Cutie 21

Liked her petite body, me a sucker for pettie bodies and cute faces.

Photo: Amazon Cutie 22

19) This was the BBS girl I took out of Lily's Place, one of the bigger BBS in the Yalan Area.
While she had been in Chang Ping for 3 years, she was only in this job for 2 months as she had worked in a factory and later in a restaurant. Her choice of clothes date back to my mother's time and that's going back to the 50s! Truly a village peasant.

Photos: Kampong Girl 23 24 25

20) Both Mx and I agreed that at Kent's place, she was the pick of 4 available girls and since he passed on her (I gave him first refusal), I took the opportunity to call her in for what turned out to be a great afternoon ST session.

Photo: Kent's Nice Girl 26

We soaked in the hot tub for a long time and got to know each other before I got into the sex! She's the first WL that I have gone DATY for a long while and that says something about how I desired her after all that soaking in the tub. All in she spent a good 3 and half hours with me 每real value for 200 yuans and a fat tip.

Almost took her out a second day for a LT but decided on another Mami's recommendation that proved to be a winner too.

20) She's nicer than she looks in the picture and so wet we had tissues on hand just to mop up the gushing tap of hers!

Photo: Jenny's BBS Girl 27

A great overnight session that went on till the morning and more than an hour playing in the hot tub between sex! I would go back to CP just to have her again. She came from Mami Jenny's BBS also in Yalan area.

21) This very young newbie BBS girl was ST by master China monger Huzige after he had another girl earlier. He had her come join us for dinner before he took her back for a ST session post dinner. Sadly, the Mamis teach the girls to do all sorts of things with their hair and make up and for me, it screws up too many pretty country women who are more appealing to me au-naturale.

Photo: Huzige's Newbie BBS Girl 28

22) Xindi Disco, the first large disco in Chang Ping. There is a newer and larger Disco now opened but I cannot find the name lost in my computer.



23) This is the main street leading to the Xindi Discos and has several pubs- clubs of which I found two to be pretty interesting with a mixture of customers and WLs.




24) Most of the working ladies spend their money and leisure time in this shopping complex near the main street where the Huei Mei Hotel is located- a street parallel to the hotel's main road Zhong Yuan Street.



25) If you have never been to Chang Ping and to Amazon Karaoke, then you have to try it at least once. In this picture, you will see Flower Street which is where you will find at least 200 ladies lined up by their mamis to be picked by you from 6.45 pm onwards daily. Never ever have I seen such a huge collection of women in one place tugging at me to take them out! Its truly TOTAL IMPACT!

Karaoke Room charges are reasonable and based on the room size (and number of people it can take) with a minimum consumption value to the room. The attending Lady will look after drinks and the Karaoke system and take care of your running tab (based on your minimum consumption) and keep you informed. It won t break your bank if you have a group of 4 persons or more.

As for the girls, its quite simple 每 they operate a 2-5-8 system.

200 for the girl you select to seat with you all evening. If you want to take her back for a test drive short time, you top up a further 300 to make it 500 in total. And if you keep her overnight, you top up another 300 to make it 800 in total.

There is not guarantee either way if she will go back with you or stay overnight and it applies both ways. So, best to interview the girl and the mami when you first select her at the flower street line up.

The same rationale would apply to all other Karaokes you visit in Chang Ping or elsewhere in China.

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26) The New Century Hotel which is located not far from the Walter and Miraton Hotel is a quality 4-star property with full facilities including its own Karaoke club which is also very popular.

Some monger prefer the selection of girls here to the Amazon except that the Mamis operate the regular way. You are seated in your Karaoke room and they bring their line up of 8 to 15 girls for you to pick. You can take your time and go through several line ups before you decide. Never be afraid to reject the entire line up if nothing suites your taste. When the line up comes into the room, they will spread out in a line and bow to you all-together.

Most of the hotels in Chang Ping have some kind of Karaoke operation and you are spoilt for choice. And, massage joints which could be foot massage, purely massage, or sex and massage or a combination,

You have to be specific when you enter that you want the sex sauna (if that is what you want) because you could end up with the wrong service.

e.g. at the Fu Long Hotel, you go to the 3 or 4th floor and it's the regular sauna. If you want the sex service, it's on the 5th floor etc.

At the Virgin Hotel, the sauna in the main hotel building is normal while the sauna in the annexe is the sexy one. This is reputably the best sex sauna right now in Chang Ping. You pay 248 for the sexy room (and it is well kitted out) and tip (siao fei) the girl 300 for her services which is a total of 18 courses. This includes BBBJ, a host of entire body treatment and ends up with the happy entre!

If you have never had the Chinese 18 course sex sauna, then you should visit at least once when you are in Chang Ping. (Read DM's FR on Dongguan and he tells it like it is there!)

Here is an excerpt from and ISG post that I quote,

I looked at her with a smile and said something like Wo yau pialiande xiaujie bu yau massage. She returned my smile and quickly took me to the upper floor where I was shown into a nice Hotel Room where I was instructed to wait. Shortly after the manager appeared with a slection of three lovely ladies, none of whom were quite my type. So he sent them back and brought in another batch. This time I was smitten by a fairly tall Szechuan beauty who was very surprised to find a white devil requiring her services.

Alone in the room she instructed me to take off my clothes and enter the shower with her. She proceeded to give me a fifteen point soaping that did not omit a single square inch of my body.

Next I was instructed to sit on this funny looking low standing chair placed just outside the shower area. I say funny because just in the middle of the chair was a conspicious hole which I found quite strange. At this point the lovely Szechuan beauty lies down on the floor completely and slides her head under my funny chair. Needless to say I am somewhat intrigued. Before I can fully resolve what to do next I feel her tongue penetrating and licking my anal area and squeezing my balls at the same time. Wow what a rush. Gentlemen if you haven t experienced this well then you really should pencil it in for the next weekend.

Anyway after a good ten minutes of this unique treatment we are in the bedroom where she prepare her tray of small drinks. I am quite happy at the sight of a bit of refreshment but quickly realize that they are not there for my drinking pleasure. First I am told to sit at the end of the bed where a bit of expert BBBJ gets me rock hard. Then she proceeds to put in the first little cup in her mouth and start up the BBBJ once again. Now what liquid do you guys think she has in her mouth?? Bubble Tea! With very nice chewy Tapioca balls. Trust me that after a Bubble tea BJ you will never look at bubble tea the same way again. Continuing her parade of drinks we repeat the same routine with some kind of milk, hot and ice cold water (fire and ice) and some kind of carbonated drink.

Next I am told to position on the middle of the bed in doggie position (first time I was the doggie!) with her on her knees right behind me. Once again her tongue goes where no tongue has gone before while a wonderfull ball and shaft massage are administered at the same time. I can t deny that to some degree I actually feel violated and exhilirated at the same time!! You sure don t get that at a suburban US AMP.

After that she goes on to administer a truly thorough tongue bath on my entire body including toes and fingers. By the time we actually get to actual intercourse I have been hard for a good fifty minutes. And what a finish. She certainly holds several degrees in what she is doing and after we are done I had a smile on my face that refused to go away for the rest of the day/night.

By the way the cost for the whole affair was 240 Yuan for the management and 300 for the girl. What a bargain.

Other things to do in Chang Ping area

Regular Massage and Reflexology
Most mongerers spend the earlier hours of the day in Massage and Reflexology places. Some of the new country girls and former shop 每 factory workers end up working in massage places to upgrade their income. A few gems may be found in these establishments. I like the one at the New Century and Hue Mei Hotel 每 generally young and pretty. You can court them and take them out after duty and get that GFE bonk that we all desire. My ex Chang Ping GF is from the New Century and my new target GF is from the Huei Mei Foot Massage. There are plenty to choose from.

Charges are something like 40 每 50 yuans per hour in luxurious private rooms just for yourself or for your group. They will allocate the rooms according to the number of people you arrive with.

Khong Zhong Fei Ren
While the Fu Long Hotel in Chang Ping was one of the earliest with this special sex sauna session (girl fucks in flying position, suspended from mid-air on a cloth rope)

They do not have this service there anymore, last I checked.

If you want to try this, you need to go to nearby Heng Li Town 每 take a taxi.

FR of a Singapore Mongerer in Heng Li Town.

At the
Hua2 Xiang2 Hotel
The Sauna is at the basement floor and they will place you in the room. Mamasan will come in and send her girls 3 each time in a row. You have to specify that you want the Khong Zhong Fei Ren or, you will get the normal 18 course treatment only. In addition to the room charge of 268, you will have to tip the girl 600 rmb as opposed to the normal 300 rmb.

As in all saunas, be frank and straight with the girl as to what you want. Even if she is a pretty young girl, she will serve you without even blushing.

Another town where you can get the flying sex treatment is in Chang An about half an hour's drive away. This is heresay and needs verification. I have not had time and space to check it out although I want to check out this interesting way to get fucked!

Food
For Mongers who wonder what to eat in CP, here are some of the restaurants that Singaporean mongers have tried and recommend. Mind you, these recommendations are for Singapore , Chinese palate.

i) Hui Long Shi Ju
a) Roasted Chicken 每 Superb and highly recommended. Only 28RMB for one chicken

b) Zhen Zhu Hao - 4.5 Stars
The pearl oysters come on a hot plate. Very delicious. 2 to 4 persons can share one plate.
At this restaurant, a good meal for 2 to 4 pax can come up to about 160-200RMB, depending on what you eat. It is quite economical and it is within CP itself. Most minivan taxi drivers will know where it is. Mx and I took at minivan taxi there from the Miraton but, walked back using the Walter Hotel as a landmark.

ii) Fei Po Shao E
Their roasted duck/goose is good and juicy. This eating place's setting is not a restaurant. It is more like a local eating shop. Half the duck costs 45RMB. Near to HuiMei Hotel﹝

iii) Xiang Feng Chu Shai
There are a few restaurants doing in CP. They are all located at the same area. Hunan cuisine. The frog leg hot plate is nice. If you dare, the Dog Meat Hot pot, a novelty for some Singapore mongers. There are other specialities in this high end eatery. Approximately 170 RMB for 4 persons. The restaurant is located near to Virgin Hotel.

iv) Xiao Fei Yang Huo Guo
A taiwanese restaurant specialising in hot pot. You order what you want to put into the pot (3 types of soup: medical, hot&spicy, and mixed). You can find all parts of the goat:goat brains, goat intestines, goat whatever.
What is recommended is in fact their Indian styled pancake which was introduced by Singaporeans to this town. Each serving is only 2RMB!!!

v) Sha Bo Zhou
There are a few of these small restaurants selling pot porridge in CP. Again, there are all located on the same street (at least 8 of them on the same street). If you tell the driver that you want to go eat pot porridge, he will know where to bring you too. Their sweet potatoes cooked in sugar syrup (5 stars) is very nice. Something to try!

vi) There's a restaurant named Yi Pin Lou (literally first grade restaurant) beside New Century Hotel that's quite good. It's a classy chinese restaurant with a large variety of food selection and cheap!

vii) The following two Xiang Cai (hunan) restaurants that visiting Singaporeans like to patronize:

a. Xiang Chin Ren Jia

b. Mao Jia

Both are located just opposite the Miraton hotel along the main road.. Very good Hunan food for those who like spicy food. The famous dish are their pig trotters, steam pai cai and Jiao fish head which Mx and I tried. Both are just as good in term of food, decor and price . Mao jia is slightly cheaper.

viii) Pai Li xian : cantonese food. Food is very good with a crappy d谷cor.

ix) Tim Sum : For lunch

The hotest place right now restaurants for Tim Sum are at the Top two hotels in CP. Hui Hua (Jia Huei) and the Miraton.

Nice tim sum, nice decor, good service and reasonable price.

x) Lu Yi Tian Tian Seafood 每 near the Huei Mei Hotel along the same side. Excellent live seafood at reasonable prices. The steamed fish and melon soup were memorable for me.



Getting There

(see MongerX's FR on Zhuhai and Chang Ping here at CH)

Sorry bout this, have written to Hombre to insert the photos instead as it hung up on me when I was posting!

Photos integrated

Crazier,

It looks like CP is the place. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to max out my trip.
I want to begin or end my china vacation with shanghai.
Getting off HKIA what are my options by ferry?

I was thinking on HKIA -> Macau -> CP -> Shenzuen -> Shanghai
Can this be possible?(does not have to be in exact order)

Excellent reporting, Crazier, thanks for taking the time to publish this. I can't wait to follow in your footsteps, China sounds like it has a lot going for it. Except the language, which will present interesting difficulties/opportunities/challenges.

CN.,

TO begin and end in Shanghai, you will be travelling from up there to Guangdong Province in the south and back up again so its quite a bit of mileage if you know what I mean.

On using HKIA as a gateway to Chang Ping, there are 3 options listed in MongerX's FR - go take a look as these are detailed & carefully described there. Of those options, I like the Hung Hom train best.

By ferry, from HKIA,
you can take a ferry to Humen (Taiping), Dongguan. It's expensive relatively speaking.
Cost $230 Economy; $270 First Class (last year's posted prices)
(you can reclaim your airport tax at HKIA)

From Humen to Chang Ping, Dongguan, you will need to take either a bus or taxi and it will cost about 150 to 200 rmb. If there are a few of you, this will not be prohibitive and is interesting. Besides, on exit, you get the HKIA Airport tax as a refund because you did not technically enter HK.

Shenzuen - Do you mean Shenzhen?
IF so, From HK, you get to Shenzhen before you get to Chang Ping. But, why would anyone go to Shenzhen when the Hongkies are bypassing it to get to Chang Ping. They would know better right?

Is Macau definitely on your itinerary? The Soapies there are GREAT.

However, be prepared to spend at least 3-4 times what you would spend in China for what is essentially the same thing as far as Chinese women are concerned. The thing about Macau is that it has an "international collection" of women from all over the world and that's what makes it special. Then, again, it's all about on-premise consumption there and very little take home except from the discos FLs.

After Chang Ping and Zhuhai, I personally bypass Macau.

Crazier,

Thanks for the tip. $270 USD for a 1HR ferry ride? That's robbery!
I want to check out Macau, but not for long, maybe two nights.
is it the same price to catch a ferry into Macau from HKIA as HK island terminal?
I hear Shenzhen suppose to be a good place so I may stop by on the way to CP. My plan is to catch a domestic flight into Shanghai so I hope CP or SZ has an fairly large airport to get me into Shanghai.
I will not be flying in and out of the same airport. I will be flying into HK and depart from Shanghai or v-versa. No way, I will be backtracking.
Who does American Airlines partner with in china?

CN

I am sure that's 270 Hong Kong Dollars. I believe it's about $1 = HK$7.8.

The Singapore expats I met working in Shenzhen all said Changping was much better. They went up to CP and pretty much didn't play in Shenzhen.

If you do Macau, do it before you go to China. I did Macau afterwards and it was really hard to pull the trigger paying 2-3X the price for what I was getting in China. Plus the service was much more mercenary. Also, the $30 a night I was paying for a hotel in China got me alot more than it got me in Macau.

CN.,


Thanks for the quick response Mx.

This is the ferry link to Humen and the price list.

http://www.cksp.com.hk/eng/price_list/main.html

Funny, I seem to have the prices all wrong in my post from my old notes.

The prices listed here are less at (all HK $) 217 for VIP 187 for First Class and 167 for G Class whatever that is (possibly cattle - hiaks!)

Heres the HKIA airport link with a wealth of information and relevant links within.

http://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/aguide/skypier.html#glance


On Shenzhen, my friends from Singapore went recently for a change of scene.

They have concluded that Shenzhen is by for more expensive, less rewarding and overpriced when compared to Chang Ping. Put simply, you would not have these mongers from HK wandering further into the heartland of Guangdong if everything was affordable in Shenzhen right next door.

Whatever, just please don't go looking for Pattaya or AC in China, its a different ballpark set up differently but, I love it!

Pattaya does have pleanty but no talent. I can go to 10+ go-go's and still be dissapointed. BKK is much better.
I just hope I will be more pleased in China. Thanks on SZ, I'm just trying to look for an exit after Macau.

CN

Hunter,

Language is always an exciting challenge when you go out of English "domains".

When it's romanized it's easier to learn but when you have wriggly things in front of you, reading becomes a major headache and you have to rely on a fading acute memory and I fail badly on all accounts there.

Its all part and parcel of our "wretched sport" of mongering.

CN, it takes 30 minutes from Shenzhen to Chang Ping so why bother to stop when you done with Macau. Just across the border to Zhuhai (to enjoy the SWs action) and later, take that bus to Chang Ping 2 and half hours away if you bypass HK.

If you go back to HK, then, take the Hung Hom train out of there direct to CP (Dongguan Station). One of the best routes to get there!

I've been looking at your posts and most of them are South American so I can see what kind of eyes you have for bodies and faces. You like them meatier (shapely) and "latin".

The choices in CP are varied (huge choices) and you may or may not come away satisfied. No harm in finding out first hand of course.

As with everywhere, a lot depends on what you put in to reap the rewards too.

Crazier,

Thanks,
Just trying to get the most resources and make my trip smooth as possible.
Thailand was great, but high in numbers but tough on quality.

I usually go through a season change. Brazil one quarter and thailand the next. I'm coin tossing China or eastern Europe.

How are the attitudes in China, compared to BKK?

CN

CN.,

My personal experience is that Chinese women are motivated by money! Perhaps, this comment covers most women this planet too!

But, the Chinese women fake it very well, at least some do.

In comparison with Thais, I would say that there are good ones and bad ones both sides.

However, supply is larger overall in China and right now, there's more hunger in China for money!

You just got to form your own opinion from your personal experiences.

Everywhere I go, my observation is that what you get depends to some extend on what you put in (repeat comment).

Arrogance will breed arrogance anywhere. (needless to say, this does not mean that you have to be a push-over and get ripped off)

There is a nice way to be firm, definitive and yet fair and pleasant.

A really terrific report, this. I think I may try it out later in the year. I'm a huge fan of Macau but this looks like a refreshing change and perhaps a little cheaper. Like others here, I like the idea of mixing both destinations. Thanks for the information. Herman

Hmn,

If you mixing Macau with Chang Ping, do Macau first then Chang Ping.

Glitzy Macau can be dampening if you're budget conscious and find yourself in a crampy small old room in Macau's old downtown(like Mx did) after enjoying s truely classy 4-star in Chang Ping central for less money.

And, that's only the hotel.

When you take in the venues and pricing, vis a vis what you get, brisk ST in Macau and leisurely have a meal & drink first ST in Chang Ping, the difference is even more significant.

cenotes..AA partner in asia is cathay pacific.used them to thailand..i loved them!