This is hard to do. Both Buenos Aires and Rio have amazing women. The differences between the women in these two cities is very subtle. It used to be that prices in BA, and Rio were quite different, and the reasons women did the work in each place were different, but now they are getting to be more the same.

I am going to categorize the differences first in 2001, and then 2002. Having been in both places in both years that are noticable differences.

You also have to remember that these are my impressions and you may or may not agree with them.

2001 Comparison of Chica in Rio vs BA

Rio
1. There are hardly any good jobs in Rio. There are a few more jobs in Sao Paulo, but it is hard to get a good paying job in Rio. Hence, particularly, in Rio for women with kids, being a chica is the only way to put food on the table.
2. The sex trade in Rio is more organized then in BA. Again, this is an opinion. I have not been in a single Terma in BA, but have been in several in Rio.
3. Women in Rio are good at sex, but the comparison might be to the difference between having a master´s degree, and a phd. The women in Rio only have a master´s degree in sex. This is a very subtle difference.
4. Sex in Rio is 1/3 to 1/2 the price in BA.
5. I think that chica´s in Rio might be a little easier to get to know the BA, and may be a little more honest. Again, this is just a personal opinion.
6. Personal safety with a chica is less in Brazil then Argentina. While I have not encountered any problems myself on several visits to Rio, I have heard of too many problems with chicas, and the hotels check things too close for this not to be a serious problem.

BA
1. There are the most beautiful women in the world. My personal opinion.
2. Chicas here tend to work for themselves. While you find them in clubs, resturants, and on the web, the legal system makes things different here. First, it is against the law to be a pimp here. So if you run a terma, you are a pimp. It is also against the law to openly solicite on the street. You can go to a club, and agree on a price with the chica, but the club owner is not allowed to receive any of the money.
3. BA chicas are better educated (in general) then Rio chicas. There is also a greater sense of sophisgication with BA chicas.
4. Women in BA really like the good life. I think more women here become chicas because of the money. This does not mean that chicas here to not need to feed little ones. I just think that more BA chicas do it for the money.
5. Women in BA have a phd in sex comparied to women chicas having a master´s degree. Again, this is strickly a personal opinion. I can say that I have had more good sex in BA then in Rio. It may also have something to do with the fact that I speak Spanish pretty when, and am not so good with Portuguese.
6. Women in BA are more refined about getting your money then they are in Rio. Visit BA, and your wallet will have less money when you leave.
7. It is safer with a chica in BA then in Rio. Normally, even now, you can wald around BA without having trouble. I also have not heard a single story of a guy being accosted while with a chica in BA.

2002 Chia Comparison -Rio vs BA

All of the above are the same, but with a decline of the peso in BA, the number of chicas is increasing exponentially. More need for mom´s to feed kids now.

Guys. I did this because someone asked my comparisons. For those that wanted a comparison of BA vs Rio chicas, these are my impressions.

Remember, the world goes around for each one of us differently.

Chau, chau.

Canon Perdido

thanks

My 2 cents is that women in Rio are not "beautiful" by the dozens as in BA. For every beautiful girl in Rio there are 20 beutiful girls in BA. There is just an amazing abundance of beautiful women in Argentina. When I was in Rio I had to really look for my diamond, it took minutes in BA to find a very attractive playboy chica. Also women in Rio for the most part do not have tits-period! They have nice asses but no tits, I personally like BA women for their beautiful tits and a beuatiful ass and very pretty face to go with it.

This is just my opinion from 3 past trips to both destinations. If I were to have a 3 week vacation, 2 weeks would be spent in BA.

Thanks for your insights CanonPerdido. I've been interested in visiting BA for a while but have been uncertain whether it was worth the time; once you've been to heaven (heaven is Rio in my mind), things just can't get any better - right? With the devaluation of the peso, there has been alot of talk about BA but I wasn't sure how valid most of it was since alot of the talk seems to coming from guys that have not been to both BA and Rio. Reading your impressions convinces me that it is time to start studying airfares to Argentina. Thanks again.

Funny thing about BA vs Rio comparison. Last night in BA I was with a Brazilian. Nice natural breasts, and nice but. I am a but and leg man. For me, too many women in BA have silicon up the cazu. Brazilians in general are happier in my opinion. Argentines are winers, and cannot take responsibility for their own problems, and that is way this same thing happens almost every 10 years in BA.

Youngtom. I believe that I have seen some postings between you and Moondog also. I think that you would find his opinions not to different then mine.

I just came back from B.A. and Rio so I was able to do a "back to back" comparison. IMHO the experience in B.A. was the greatest. In terms of the beauty of the women and the experience - it was truly GFE. In Rio the women end to be younger, more mechanical. The choice of partners in Rio is incredible. It is like a kid going into Toys R Us for the first time - where do I start - so many choices. But personally I preferred the experience of going into a bar like Cutty Sark, striking up a conversation and ... At Help or any of Mabs etc. it is not the same.

Not to say that I would not fly back to Rio on a moment's notice.

Perhaps my experience is affected by the fact that I speak Spanish fluently, and my Portuguese is limited.

I have also found that BA is a great place to meet non-pros. I have found that the local women are not afraid to make advances and do so - invitations to dinner (she insisted upon paying ...) invitations to another's appartment (what would you like me to put on the BBQ...)

WOW

Here's my ten cents (My two cents is free ~grin). I also went to both Rio an BA. I speak fluent spanish and portuguese...so language was not a problem for me. I will agree with water rat that BA would be my first choice simply because of the beautiful women and the fact that the are more of a GFE than in Rio. BA girls are more poen to threeesome and orgies than Rio women. Rio women prefer one-on-one...I personally like to havce with 5 or more girls at the same time...1-1 does not do it form me anymore. I would still visit Rio, but when you factor the extar steps of a obtaining a Visa and paying and waiting three days...I'd rtaher stick with the Cariocas I meet in Miami every week-end..and fly to BA instead..Now for a quick week-end mongering trip I recommend CTG or Costa Rica..only 3 hrs away from Miami..

Hello all from a new addition to the hermanos of clubhombre!

Thanks to all the veterans and their posts especially on BA and Rio.

I have recently decided to take the plunge for a first ever hobby vacation and committed to heading to Rio; however, the recent press here on BA has me rethinking and now now confused!

Based on the reports and pics it appears that the BA girls tend to have the upper hand in the looks department (face and body, specifically those breasts). With this said, I think I will be making a decison based on the sexual skills of the ladies.

Can you all comment on these skills, specifically as they relate to offering dfk, and bbbj to completion, asian, and greek - are the rio girls or the BA more apt to do this? Apologize for the bluntness of the question, but want to get on that plane ASAP ;).

Correct me if I am wrong, but in Rio, the better bet seems to be to head to a terma and then get the gals number to see her afterhours - are these girls better looking over HELP?

Given the currency devaluation, BA is much more feasible. You all should also look at www.bestfares.com as there are some attractive flights from miami to BA for around $400.

Thanks for any help and insight.

Why not do both? I recenty purchased a ticket to BA that was cheaper with a stop in Rio on the way back then the price of just going to BA.

Ladies in BA are better, and give more with their sex, then the ladies in Rio. At least this in my experience, and current belief.

Canonperido - who did you book that thru (a travel agency, airline, ...)? Thanks.

I ususally by my ticket directly from the airline. The flight to Rio was about 1000. The flight to ba was about the same. The flight on United from LAX through Miami direct to BA, BA to Rio on Varig, and then return from Rio to LAX on United was 950 I think.

thanks for the reply.

I won't have time to hit both cities on this trip - as i figured i should stay in BA or Rio for at least a week in order to settle in and see what is going on and get a handle on the talent ;)

BTW - www.expedia.com, www.bestfares.com, and www.travelocity.com are great bets for finding good air fares.

Has anybody tried courier flights - did this several years ago and went to Thailand for $200US out of La Guardia.

I will add my very limited experience to this subject...

Rio- young...and very in shape...GFE is to be had of course...but not gauranteed by any means...

BA- older but definite GFE and very sweet but I have only experienced 2 of these ladies and they were stateside and still had not lost the GFE...one was a regular non pro(what she told me anyway)...both mid 30's...

really not too much experience of course from myself since I have only been with 30 Rio girls and the 2 BA (stateside) girls...

I chose Rio because I wanted younger women and of course its so easy there with all that is offered in it's venues...

I think it really comes down to what look you prefer,,,

You guys like younger ladies. I like them a little older. Usually, I like them about 30+, or even 40. In my experience, if they still have a nice body and are a little older, they are just better at sex.

In Rio, I have not seen many older then 30, and most of the ladies seem to be about 25. In BA, most of them were about 25 - 30, but the absolute best was 33 now. There is a picture of this lady posted also, Ale. Saw her a month ago, and will see her again in 2 month.

My opinion.

I dont disagree with you on that one..I have just gone thru a phase of wanting younger women this year...mid-life at 37!!

Flyguy,
Thanks for your April 9th post. It was just what I wanted to know, i.e. which women are more beautiful, those in Brazil or Argentina. Sounds like Argentina won this battle. Don't cry for me Argentina!!! (because I may be visiting you soon!!)

Crafter, I always use www.despegar.com which has info in Spanish and English, but I always pay about $425 from JFK plus the 40-60 dollar tariffs, not too bad at all. Flights are even less from Miami. What I do is look at this site every day for a week or so since they have different promotions all the time. Within a week or so you usually see a great deal from the major cities. Buen viaje amigo. DownBA

downba: thanks much for the site - will check it out!

BillyJack,

You will find yourselves like the rest of us BA vets..in love with the beautiful, and passionate women, and I do mean passionate, man these girls will not take no for an answer...they truly make you feel like a king begging for more....be careful: falling in love in Argentina is about as easy as being mugged in Rio.

Easier

It can also be hard on your pocketbook. I know.

Batman/Gentlemen,
Thanks for your helpful information. I met some pretty women in my short time in Rio(about one week in November 2001). They were very warm, feminine, and attractive, just the way I like them. I'm continually amazed at how much more feminine the Latina is than the American woman.
I'm seriously considering relocating to Brasil, hopefully by the end of this year or early next. Argentina sounds interesting but I understand that the weather gets somewhat cold during their winters. Being a longtime NE Pennsylvania resident, and suffering through it's never-ending, cold winters for many years (I'm 44), I've definitely had it with cold weather. Consequently the Argentine winters are a big negative for me. Anyone know how cold it gets there in the winter? Do they get snow?
I wonder if the Argentine women are that much prettier/nicer than Brasilian women to change my mind as to where I'll relocate. Maybe I'll check both countries out during my next trip south. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Argentina & Brasil are big countries. Check out www.weatherbase.com for all sorts of weather info on different cities.

BA
http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/weather.php3?s=067578&refer=

Rio
http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/weather.php3?s=064738&refer=

I have never heard of it freezing in BA. It is funny if you are from CA or Florida, people frequently only have a t-shirt when it is around 65 F. In BA at that same temp, people look like eskimos. I find it really funny when walking down the street.

I think the weather in the winter is more like San Francisco. If you are from CA, winters in the city are cold, but if you are from NY, SFO winters are not cold.

Another thing, at 40 F, and high humidity, it can seem really cold. BA can be about 4 or 6 C, and with high humidity seem really cold. But there is not the Penn snow and ice.

Hope this helps.

I love Argentina...can't wait to get back in 3 weeks!!

Youngtom/Cannonperdido,
Thanks for the input on the weather. Man this website is a wealth of information thanks to guys like you. I appreciate it. Buenos Aires sounds a bit too cold in the winters for me but even if I do relocate to Brazil I guess I can always take a trip to Argentina during their summers.
Getting back to the theme of this thread, Chicas in Rio vs BA, I checked out the website someone recommended, cupidovip.elsitio.com and took a gander at the fotos of the women from Argentina. Yes, the majority of them are attractive, some very attractive. I saw some women in Brazil that were perhaps as pretty, but it does appear that Argentina does have a higher percentage of good looking women. I don't know about you guys, but in my opinion, the women in Rio who were not hookers were only average looking.

while in Rio my friend and I conducted an unscientific but interesting test. over the course of five minutes in several different locations(Beach,ave.atlantica, ipanema shopping area)we counted the number of girls we wanted to ask out. in all cases the number was about 2-3 over the five minutes for each of us. we counted silently to ourselves. he told me he had done a similar test in Miami and caracas. in miami he counted 13 in five minutes and in caracas he counted 25. he needs to go to BA and get that number also.he can't get that caracas number out of his mind though.next time someone is in BA maybe they can try this exercise. i tried it today in Houston and got 12.

only 2-3 in a shopping mall in Rio????

why dont the pics out of Caracas back this!

This is a density problem. If you have more people in one place, by the averages you should get more people.

You should be more scientific.

What was the density of people per sq meter?

Another way, what was the number of pussy's / sq meter, and of these pussy's, what was the number per hundred that were good looking.

Then you should normalize the number to come up with the correct beauty quotient for each cities.

I am afraid with these inaccurate statistice, you guys have a lot more work to do.

Sorry.

I saw lots of beauties at the mall in Rio. Anyone saying there is no talent there has to get his mental health cheched. Much more beauties than at termas or boates.
Flight from LAX to Miami had some beauties too, latinas going back home south and pretty gringas.
Miami airport had many beauties too, making me think all is not lost in good USA.

Athos,
If you think the airport has a lot of beauties you should see South beach!! I lived there for 5 years for college and have decided that I wish I would have never moved away IMHO Miami provides a single guy lots of opportunity to sample different women from all over the world. Oh and the beach is topless and thongs Now I got the blues......well only 4 months till Rio !!!!!!!

Athos, I agree with you. I walked around Rio Sul mall with a sick feeling, knowing I wouldn't be seeing these girls again; just made me hurry to the thermas that much quicker.
Now I'm back in the states with that sick feeling. But not all is lost, now I have something to save up for.

The following is an excerpt from my July 2002 report "Dartagnan Falls In Love w/ Brazil" (in it, I also do my personal comparsions w/ Asia, Costa Rica, And Tijuana if you're interested)

I've seen some interesting comparisons between Rio and Buenos Aires with arguments on both sides of which is better, here's where I offer my impressions. Note that after this report, I will attempt to offer a similar style report on Argentina.

The most noticable difference, in my opinion, is the average age of the working girl. In Rio they tend to be younger, perhaps early twenties, while I'd peg the average in Argentina at late twenties or so.

I'd give the edge in body types to Brazilians by a wide margin, but it will probably be a lot closer for you if tits are important. The Argentina chicas are much more likely to have bigger tits, but a good number of them will be fake. Almost none will have the highly erotic tan lines common in Brazil.

My sexual experiences were excellent in Argentina, but they were better in Brazil. I've read many opinions that have been the opposite. It's made me wonder if we're using the same definition of GFE. If we're talking about sexual willingness and desire, I would say Brazil is better. If we're talking about hanging out and doing stuff beyond the sex, then I would say Argentina. Since I'm one of the ultimate horizontal guys, I clearly preferred Brazil. This is of course just my personal experience and opinion, and probably biased due to my preference with how Brazilians looked.

My personal observation is that older guys and more vertical ones prefer Argentina. Young horizontal hunters like myself are partial to Brazil. From what I've heard, all the Tijuana guys that Athos knows much preferred Rio over Buenos Aires. I can be included in that group.

As for the locations, the night club facilities are fewer in Brazil. You mainly just have Help Disco and the Lido Area which consists of several clubs. All of them charge a cover, so you can't just walk in and hangout like at Newport. However, Help Disco offers a huge selection, probably matching that of a good number of clubs in BA put together.

What BA doesn't have are termas, which really set Brazil on a level above everywhere else.

Any recent thoughts on this topic? (especially if you've been to both recently) I think I'm getting close to booking a trip, but am going nuts trying to decide between BA and Rio.

MrBill
If your trip is 2 weeks long, may I suggest you go to both BA and Rio so you can kill 2 birds with one stone. Never been to BA but one week is plenty to try the major termas and night boates in Rio.
Looks like BA chicas tend to be more european looking while Rio runs the gamut from black to european.
Some guys prefer BA, others prefer Rio. Unless you know one of the hombres on this board or can identify with one of them when reading his trip reports, you may set yourself for disappointment.

Mr. Bill,

When are you thinking of going? The reason I ask is that the time frame will definitely determine the best time to visit either country.

I know a few in Bs As that I can take them to a partner's Ball and no one will blink an eye; Cannot say that with the terma girls though

you mean to tell me no one in Barbarellas could go to the ball with you?? There are a few elegant women in there even though they may not be old enough to go to the ball!!!

Athos, I'd love to do both, but I can't afford it, can't take that much time off work, and frankly don't think I could handle two straight weeks of sexo..

Moondawg, I would probably go before the end of the year. I read that Xmas season is a ghost town viz. BA, and that BA is kind of lacking in talent right now.

I should note that I'm a fan of more LT/TLN action. Termas sound like a blast, but I like to spend quality time with the chicas in the hotel.

Thanks for the input, guys! Hope to see some of you down there one of these days.

Mr.Bill....you have been toying with this idea for some time now...time to stop scratching your balls, pick up the phone and call carbone-travel.com and buy a low priced tix...it's gonna cost you a hundred dollars more now than it would have last week...but the fares are still incredibly low...you can get a 29per night hotel room that is decent, clean and chica friendly...food won't cost much....and the chicas are plentiful enough... if it's GFE/todalanoche experiences you want....BsAs is your destination, hands down....I will be there from 21-28 October if you want someone to show you around....These days someone is there almost all of the time....

I agree with Layne. There are some fine Terma garotas who I'd take out in a minute.

HC1

Mr. Bill,

Just go before December 15th. If you go after that, and stay for any length of time, the town will be shut tighter than a drum after December 24th.

Layne, Hombrecito1 - I did make a distinction did I not It is about the partner's Ball - A kind of an outing that is more than looks. There are many a sweet things in Barberella, who may not be able to carry it off. - We (my Co.) have been in .BR for quite soometime, and I have after come to this conclusion after having been to BR/AR often for the past 6-7 years, Again YMMV, this just my personal observation

Citydude,

See the shots of Paola-Day 3 and Julia-Day 8 in my report. Put a nice outfit on either of them and they would fit in at any formal function in my opinion.

I also think I could easily find a number of Terma garotas with a classy elegant look to pull off a formal event. I agree a lot of Terma girls could not, but I disagree that all could not.

HC1

Beautiful girls, thanks for the memories.

Hombrecito1, never said 'all" What I said was "... many a sweet things in Barberella, who may not be able to carry it off "

Citydude-I was not referring to the Barbarella statement, I was referring to this one:

"I know a few in Bs As that I can take them to a partner's Ball and no one will blink an eye; Cannot say that with the terma girls though"

This implies that Terma girls couldn't cut it at your ball. You don't state "all", but your statement implies it.

I've been to formals here and I think there are a lot of Terma garotas with a model-like face and more elegant demeanor who could pull it off. In fact, they would probably be one of the more beautiful ones present. To lump all Terma girls as somehow inferior is a disservice to them and is not representative of their overall quality which is high.

HC1

I see where he is coming from HC1...BA has a reputation of having a "classier" program girl...Rio has the reputation of having the younger girls who are all about fun not so much a ball...

this was recently put to the test with our favorite terma girl and she hated it...bored stiff...you know she pulled it off in an evening gown big time....

also notice the guys here who prefer BA girls over Rio girls tend to be more "mature"...possibly adding to the representation of a classier more mature provider on his arm at the ball...

sorry to put "mature" in there guys but I thought old farts would have been a bit rude...

Layne: I'm not in the 50s, nor am I 30 year old spring-chicken. In good times, my Co. has held Charity Balls at 2500 Quid a plate at Grosvenor House whre one needs to come in a formalwear. Our US partners have had similar annual events held @ Waldorf in NYC. Our Partners Ball, here, is an equivalent of what is the annual office Christmas party in the US, but slightly more formal and non-denominational in nature. These ofcourse are non-stag (read single) occasions. Who I (as a single person) bring as a date is tricky.
Looks, intelligence, carrying on a general conversation and other nuances... do count

In the six-seven years or so, that I have been a regular to BR & AR, I've found not many garotas, in most termas, who have finished College; many did not know where London was ? "No, It is not in France..." - In BA, quite a few have Graduate degrees.

Yeah ! Thanks for rubbing in the "mature" term