Fellow Mongerers -

I'd like to get a discussion going regarding knowingly or unknowingly/possibly fathering kids while mongering. Hey, let's face it...we're all fucking...over-time, plenty of love pudding will make it to the target.

I made a comment in one of my chat sessions that over the years I've accumulated a small harem of favoritas in Panama.

One favorita is about 28 or 29 years-old...I've known her for about 7 or 8 years. When I lived-in country I would fuck her maybe once or twice a month. Now that I moved away, I fuck her only once or twice a year. But, I keep coming back because I like her and I know she likes me. I can't say I'm in love with her because I could care less who is fucking her...but I know we are mutual friends.

On my last trip she suggested that she will probably never get married. For years she known that after my divorce I vowed that I would never marry again.

However, she indicated that her biological clock is ticking...she already had a baby when I first met her...but now he is getting big. She says she wants to have another baby and asked my if I would mind knocking her up....no strings attached...which I know is bullshit...so please, I need no counseling.

First, I am glad she asked rather than deceive me into a BB session while she is ovulating. Second, even though she says "no strings"...DNA testing and governments can be murder on a guy who knocks up any woman anywhere...if she has your name and knows where you live.

This got me to thinking though. Condoms break or fail. I'm sure there are a bunch of you out there that periodically go barebacking.

I don't know if this data exists...it may exist somwhere, or perhaps there is no way to collect this type of data. But, every year X number of whores in the world get knocked up by choice or accident on the job.

How many times have you been fucking a whore, wearing a condom, then just as you start to cum, the plastic wrapper on your dick splits, unravels, or, literally gets sucked-off your dick cause you are banging her so hard or she you, etc.? It's happened to me more than once and the way a few of the chicas reacted I could tell they were not on any other type of contraception.

If this has happened to you and you never checked-up on the chica...you could have a kid out there.

Some of you indicated in your postings that in certain countries, you never wear a condom. If you are not sterile, and your chica isn't on any contraception...over a given number of fucks a few will slip-in to the baby making soft spot. Naturally the more women you fuck the better odds you've got kids...somewhere.

I'd like to hear from you all who think it is possible, likely, or you know for a fact that you've fathered kids while mongering...please tell us what your experiences were...what troubles you've run into...what close calls you've had, etc.

Again, this chica asked me to knock her up...has anyone had the same offer made to them? Is it common when you have favoritas? Has a chica tried to get pregnant to entrap you?

Tell us your story? I'm curious...

Thanks.

AlecJamer

This is a very interesting thread that I myself would like some input from our ' monger fraternity'. In my own expernces, I have had a few girls suggest we have a baby together and after the initial encounters of protected sex, get to the point where there's no resistance at having BB sex and I'll be the first to admit, I have given in a few times.

Where I have drawn the line is my own cases are actually releasing inside of these women. There have been times where we have gotten to that point of havin BB sex and they get mad when I do pull out instead of releasing inside of them.

As much as I want to, I have yet to bring myself to doing this. Now I know that there's still an outside chance with pre-ejaculation and all that, but "knock on wood", so far so good. I have also been with a few 'knockouts' that I would have loved to 'knock up', but again my big head seems to get me 'out' in time.

When I do give in to BB Sex, it's typically with non-pros that I spend considerable time with (if you consider a week or two considerable time), but I have slipped inside a terma girl or two with no raincoat.

Knowing the dangers, this is not something I am entirely proud of, but again, in the confines of our 'fraternity', will admit to having done.

Over time I have shifted from quantity to quality approach, and have no problems with spending a monger trip with one girl of the vibes are nice like that.

As to whether or not I think I have fathered children, I doubt it, because as I said, I have always pulled out in those situations. Will I ever do it? I think so, but ultimately with a regular girl who's not in the P4P game (I hope).

Only question now is location and I have to say I am leaning towards a Colombia Chica, but who knows, I may eventually 'plant a seed' in a few places.

Thanks for listening.....

Supa

Supa - All -

Years ago (early 90s) when I was a young mongerer in the PI I regularily fucked without a condom (2-years a couple times every week minimum). Now that I consider the numbers, odds are that I might have hit the fertile spot more than a couple of times. Whether the girls decided to have the baby or abort...I'll probably never know. Since most girls were only a one-time deal, they only knew my first name and that I was from the USA. I assume it is very difficult to track a guy down with this limited info...and of course, whores in a 3rd world typically don't have the resources to find the father. And, given that hey are whores...they themselves may not be sure who planted the seed if they had a BB session with more than one guy that week.

I'm by no means a fertility expert, but I've learned that most women become fertile somewhere (varies by woman) as little at 10 and up to as many as 17 days (I think 12 - 16 days is standard)after their first day menstrating. Since sperm can "live" in the vagina for something like 72 hours...if you dump a load in a chica 2 or 3 days before she ovulates (when her egg becomes available), there is a chance she could become pregnant.

I took a statistic course in college many years ago...since then I've elected not to stay sharp in this area. So, maybe some of our statistical experts in the club...those who say you can catch HIV by fucking one time unprotected, or it could take 1,000 times unprotected, could also figure-out what the statistical chances are of randomly getting a chica pregnant.

Assuming the chica does not take an oral or injected contraceptive. She is a normal healthy woman with a regular menstrual cycle where she is "fertile" for up to 5 days out of every month. And of course the sperm donor is normal healthy. If sperm is present when ovulation happens, assume 100% pregnancy for our practical purposes...unless somebody knows what this percentage really is?

With sperm living up to 3-days (72 hours), what is the chance of getting a girl pregnant if you semi-randomly (no fucking during menstruation) fuck her one day in a month (25 "fucking" days to choose from with no fucking for the 5 days when she is bleeding)?

Since (when mongering) I may fuck the same girl once or twice a day for three days straight...again, assuming no contraception...what are the statistical chances she will become pregnant?

What is really the kicker here is that sperm can live up to 3-days (72 hours) in the vagina. If I fuck a chica 3-days in a row there is a lowered risk of her becoming pregnant than if I fuck her once or twice every third day during my 2-week mongering vacation.

Stats experts...please have at it.

Thanks.

AlecJamer

I'll take a stab at it.

If you use the assumptions given then your odds are between 1:1000 and 1:4913. If you assume the sperm is active for 72 hours(3 days) then I guess it would be 1:333 and 1:1638. Not sure if there is diminishing potency over the 72 hours which would impact the calculation.

Now this would be for any one time you would get someone pregnant. If you fuck 25 days a month, your odds increase exponentially. You fucked 600 times so your odds of being a fathter are .6:1 or 60%.

My statistics are also a bit rusty but I think this is right.

By the way, I live by the 2 V's. Viagra and Vascectomy.

(Message edited by sniper on February 04, 2005)

For two years you routinely fucked your non-wife-of-the-moment unprotected a couple of times each week.

Your non-wife is pregnant. She has probably gotten pregnant twice. In reality, since your non-wife changed identities pretty frequently, she's probably gotten pregnant three or four times.

My name is "Tony".

Dem "Tony" Gnomes

Alecjamer:

2 years a couple of times a week= 208 times without a condom?? In the PI?? with working girls??? Forget about fathering a kid and count your lucky stars that you didn't get a deadly std.


I remember 17 years ago when I was 17 and visiting some family in Mazatlan. I met a hot and sexy 21 year old Mazatleca (a regular girl, not a ho). We went out to Valentino's for a night of dancing and fun. Nothing happen that night but I made a date for the next day to hang out at the beach. After half a day of hanging out we got a room at a hotel. Now being a 17-year old non monger and with limited sexual history, I didn't have any condoms and naturally neither did she.

I didn't think of this until about 1 or 2 seconds before doing the deed. I told her that I didn't have any condoms and she says that's Ok. Now who was I to question an "older" more experienced partner, right? I figured she was on the pill or something...so for the next 4 or 5 hours we must have done it like 5 or six times...on the bed, on the floor, on the sofa, standing up, in the shower...you name it. When you are 17 your dick spends more time awake than asleep.

Anyway, I left the next day and we did exchange numbers and addresses but I lost hers and I never heard from her again. The next winter I returned to Mazatlan and looked for her at her job (I didn't know where she lived).
I was told that she no longer worked there and had married a navy guy (Mexican navy, not US Navy) and even had a kid. I thought about it for a minute or so and thought of the probability of the kid being mine...but then my 18 year old responsibility kicked in and I let it go.

Years have passed now and every now and then I think about the posibility of having a 16 year old kid out there...I guess I will never know. Best not to look for trouble...because you will find trouble.

Latinlover2005 -

Yes, I think I was lucky. in the early 90s AIDs was actually very rare in Angeles City. I got a dose of Gonoreah once, but that was it. At that time the military doctors from the local military base provided weekly screening for the working girls in Angeles...not that a few stray bullets couldn't get through, but we didn't worry about AIDs then as we do now.

In one way I was somewhat relieved when Mount Pinatubo erupted and we all got out...back then I was a kid in a candy store...always tempted. Never been back to the PI since.

Yet, I wonder all the time that I may have a kid, two, or even more...and I will never know. Funny thing...when I was young...I would say that I didn't want know or care, but as I've become older...where I can afford to support a kid or two...I'm not afraid I will lose all of my toys or not be able to buy that new car...so, every once in awhile, like now, I fondly think back about the young lovely girls in the short-time rooms or back in my little apartment and I wonder...I busted many a nut inside many a girl.

Since then I have fathered legitimate kids...could there be others I wonder? My legitimate kids could have brothers or sisters? Wow, that would totally blow their minds.

Yet, abortion was/is very common in the PI and the procedure of choice for working girls...so, it really is a toss-up whether I have kids there. Hell, come to think of it, if I had any girls they may soon be old enough to start working in the bars. What do I have to say about that? Fuck 'em hard guys, but treat them nice too, as we all who hobby should.

AlecJamer

AlecJamer

I imagine that the older you get the more you will think about it too. Specially when you get to grandpa age and have some grand kids of your own then your thoughts will certainly go back to PI.

But that is the price mongers must pay (at least the ones with a concience) for mongering and we must bear that weight for the rest of our lives.

Happy mongering
LL

I had a gogo girls tell me that she is pregnant and was asking me for 26.000 baht !! to have an abortion.
I gave her 1000 baht, when I came the next trip, and she was very happy with 1000 baht.

( maybe I do have a little one in Pattaya !!)

The thought of little happy_monges running around in Bangkok, selling red roses to farangs,Lord have mercy.

hei Red BUsss ? what the fuck you have with me ?
so what ? if the little happy mongers come and sell you roses ? they will provide their papa! wit much needed income,, you little English bastard !!

perhaps Thailand would have a better look, with a lot Little happy-mongers running around !!
it will bw caucasian-asian mixture !! wow thats it,,, gotta bang more thai girls with no condoms..sss !!