Hey all -

Here are a few suggestions to help maintain a low profile while mongering. Low profile - difficult to trace where you've been while mongering. The lower your profile, the less likely an "observer" can confirm what you are up to when on your mongering vacation.

Although it may be difficult to disguise when you leave the country or return, or hide which country you've been to, these tips generally will make it difficult for a detective, a divorce lawyer, or big brother to track or retrace your every move:

1). Credit, Debit, ATM, and telephone credit cards: Say no to them, or try to "restrict" your use of credit, debit, ATM, or telephone credit cards once you leave the states. CCard transactions can be summoned by your wife's divorce lawyer or govt officials doing a background investigation. They can get the date and place of purchase. In some instances they can determine what you purchased, or speculate that you were with another person if the dinner bill is proportionate for two people. Same goes for telephone credit cards issued to you by your own telephone company...best to get pre-paid phone cards and never recharge them via Ccard. Get a money belt and carry all your cash and important ID's...keep only enough cash in your wallet as you intend to spend...do the cash transfer in your hotel room or other safe location. Keep large amounts of cash with your other valuables in the hotel lock box until needed. Or, if someone knows that you will be on a trip...no traceable transactions could also indicate that you are on the sly. Before you use a traceable card, ask yourelf if you can afford to have that date, time, amount and/or location known by others?

2). Limit or stop cell phone usage while mongering: When your cell phone is on you can be tracked, even when you are not placing or receiving a call. Some models, even when turned-off, still emmit a signal that can be tracked. Best to take the battery out when you decide to slip across the border for a quickie. Telephone logs can also be summoned by divorce lawyers and govt officials who do background investigations. An alternative idea is to purchase a pre-paid cell phone or rechargeable cell phone in the country where you plan to monger...only if there is no account information established.

3). Change hotels frequently (same goes for massage parlors, restaurants and night clubs): If you run your mongering operation from only one hotel, many people eventually will figure-out what you are doing. Typically, I never stay more than 2-days at any particular hotel. In that time they may see me with one chica...maybe two, but then I am gone to another hotel a few miles away. If employees saw me only for two days...they are less likely to remember details like had I stayed for a week or two straight. I also rarily eat at the same place twice during my two week vacation. And, I will spread-out my trips to the same massage parlor, or chose only one girl and stick with her for a couple sessions...then find another somewhere else.

4). Immigration Paperwork: Foreign countries always ask where you will be staying. List one of the major franchise hotels, but don't stay there...pick another. Even if they were to question you upon your departure why you listed one hotel, then stayed at another...you can make an excuse like "a taxi driver made a better recommendation enroute". Also, forget to check in with the US Embassey..."hey, I was on vacation...I simply forgot to check in with them!"

5). Create a new alias in country: Never give chicas your real name, telephone number or mailing address. For that matter, do not tell them what you do, what city you live in, or even the correct state. Also, do not discuss what airline you are flying, or the dates of arrival or departure. Most mongerers get themselves into trouble because they think the chica(s) they are with have become a friend. In most cases they do become friends...but it only takes one to gather enough information on you to figure-out a way to entrap you...also, when you are done having sex...make sure that the used condom (your DNA) goes down the toilet. Though rare, it is not unheard of to have a woman claim to be attacked by a gringo...and if she has your DNA...well, you don't have to be a basketball star to get screwed! (Remember...3rd world countries, most gringos are perceived to be a rich target).

6). Create ficticious e-mail accounts: Use these e-mail accounts (Hotmail, Yahoo, etc.) to create ficticious "buddies" who are going deep sea fishing with you in Central and South America. Courtesy copy your wife or your boss...be sure to save the e-mail trail and stick to the story. Be sure to check all accounts frequently in case someone "tests" the system...and do not check the ficticious accounts on a work computer where you could be monitored. This is a great way to cover your "solo" trip into mongering grounds with your (cyber) buddies...plus, women "think" that a group of guys will keep each other on the up and up...yeah, right! Also, ficticious accounts are a great way to stay in touch with the chicas in your favorite mongering grounds...so what if they think my name is Alec?!

7). Condoms break, shit happens. If you think you could possibly have contracted an STD...you might be better off stopping by the doc for a dose of AB before stepping on that plane for home...come home with an STD after a fishing trip with your buddies and the game is over!

8) Monger alone: Dead men tell no lies. But this works equally well if you are all alone. Most of us are tempted to introduce our best buddies to the hobby, but you are at risk even if one trusted friend knows what you do. Trip buddies, though sometimes appreciated if you are new to the mongering scene, could be equally as bad. How do you know any of us are not reporters, investigators, or big brother in disguise out to catch you? The trip buddy I am most comfortable mongering with is the sweaty guy that just came out of the chica's massage/fuck room before I go in. Although I may select a different "fresh" chica...that guy may be about the only person I'll invite along next-time.

This is about all that I can think of without outright breaking the law using fake IDs & passports. If anyone has other good ideas to maintain a low profile while mongering, please tell us!

ciao,

AlecJamer

Good info. Only one question remains:

Can we be sure this is really Alecjammer posting?

One other idea although I will blow my cover (don't tell) is that you should change your board name to something that doesn't resemble your name.

I just changed my name on CH because I received a weird email from someone on this board that appears to no longer be here. I think someone is checking on me ;-> before I go to Panama.

These are good tips except for mongering alone in my opinion. I like a wing man and a lookout and someone to go with me in the taxi to the MP or where ever. Less likelyhood of being a victim. I have buddies I have met in the spots who I regularly hook up with.
And some from home who talk too much about the trip with those they should not. I find that the second any gringa finds out about Costa Rica she goes both balistic and postal. Some, however believe the fishing and going to the cheap dentist stories.

Ace00 -

I agree with you if you are mongering in a location that is a bit dicey. Right now Nuevo Laredo (NL) and along the Mexican border is high risk for kidnappings...take a couple of buddies with you and you are probably a lot safer from being abducted. Also, I've never been to Colombia, but short of Iraq and maybe NL, this place has one of the highest statistics for gringo kidnappings.

I figure I can monger alone in places nearly as good and a lot less risky.

AlecJamer

I've never been to Columbia either but I've been to several trips to Brazil (I lived there for a bit as well) and as long as your not lit up like a Xmas tree with jewelry and act like you know where you are going, you shouldn't have a problem.

My problem with traveling alone is that I'm bored during the daytime. I can't monger all 24 hours and the girls need to go home during the day because I can't really have any in depth conversations with them.

However I am very selective with my friends I travel with. I make sure they have as much to lose as I do if they spill their guts.

Frankly I can't wait till I can just say "Fuck it". I eventually won't care if people find out or not. I'm just not their yet.

I usually hobby on my own, but last few trips Iīve been traveling with good buddies and had, and am having, some great fun. Canīt put a price tag on great cameraderie among fellow mongers. But based on my experience, Iīd caution traveling with friends from your Ļreal lifeĻ, Iīve had some bad experiences even though we had info about each other that I thought would deter them from dislcosing things about me. Never had problems traveling with fellow hobbyists that I know only from the board or through other mongers.

Let me just add that for Colombia, where I am now, it isnīt as bad as you might think. Especially CTG, which is a touristy, beach area where youīll hardly see or experience anything that may concern you. IMO, itīs safer in terms of street level crime in CTG than places like RIO, San Jose, or Manila. There is more of a military and police presence in Cali however, and Iīd certainly wouldnīt travel outside of any of the big cities of Colombia as itīs dangerous.

My travel partners are all mongerers and are only those that I see when they come into town or if we are on a trip.

There is one exception. He was going to P4P when he went with us to Rio but then he chickened out. He has since married his girlfriend. He is the only one I worry about because he now decided to become a Catholic. He knows what I am doing when I say I'm going to Panama or Russia or wherever else.

So far he's been cool about it. I actually plan to finish my divorce eventually and I won't worry about who knows. Right now its a little scary.

frankly, almost everything I do is in CASH,
that is the way i pay.
nobody can trace me..

just my 2 cents

anyway good advice.
nothing that i can add.

just smiling when reading this .

happy monger

I remember this post and wonder what mr alecjamer is up to to keep a low profile, I looked at his pad and he seems to still be on the board, Other than that, hotels in Thailand have to ask you for your passport number and name, but there are cheap hotels that dont, Thats my two british pennys.

Redbus -

I'm still here...but it has been a while since I've been able to get out on a trip. And then when I do, I typically hang with my novia slipping-out to only pop a long-time favorita or two. But, nothing worth writing home about.

It is just smart to maintain a low profile while mongering. Though it is rare, you never know when somebody who knows you and/or your family back home could run into you. Obviously, if you have no family and you have nothing to lose back home (should others discover you like to monger)...then maintaining a low profile probably doesn't matter.

Also, you never know when you might fuck a chica who is pretty dam good on the Internet and she might be able to trace you all the way back to your own doorstep at home or work...ever since I had one do this to me...I am very careful about the info I give any chica I pay for sex. They can quickly put you into a position whereas they can blackmail you or somehow disrupt your life.

Also, I only monger with guys I meet while I am out mongering. This way I know they are just like me. And they really do not know who I am, nor should they care. And while mongering if they ask too many personal questions I can feed them bullshit or simply disappear.

Finally, I do not monger with anyone I meet on-line because there is no way I can determine whether they are legitimately okay...no matter how many threads they write about fucking chicas. I've actually had a few within this club send me private e-mails asking for the names and telephone numbers of chicas I've fucked in Panama. Whose to say that these people have not infiltrated our club in an attempt to verify what we write about? Until verified with substantial proof, everything we write about could be just a story...made-up...a fantasy.

Imagine if I were a Chief of Police or a City Mayor...a politician...a government employee...somebody relatively famous but not quickly identifiable when mongering abroad such as a professional athlete...a man of religion...a CEO of a major company...the list goes on and on. These people cannot afford to have someone identify them as a hobbyist. Release of this kind of information could ruin their career and in cases involving our military troops...proof that they pay for sex (no matter where they are in the world) could get them 1-year in Federal prison for every chica they fuck...imagine that? And I know we have a lot of military in this club...by the way guys...thank you for your service...and I mean that.

Therefore, knowing how to maintain a low profile is very relevant when mongering and if you want to ensure your privacy...learn to blend in undetected and leave the smallest signature behind.

AJ

point taken alecjamer, every one knows what i do, friends, relations, even other bus drivers,and yes i dont have a family, reading the above i see why some mongers would want to keep there hobby a secret,thanks for taking the time to answer my submit

You never know what you will run into when mongering: I remember being at Martini's in the Phen with a khmer hottie, fully engaged and then out of the corner of my eye seeing one of my good buds from college (now married) making his pick for the night. Although not worried about myself, I figured I would spare him having the embarrassment/awkwardeness of having to explain himself and sweating out that I would undertand (which I think I would)... so I discreetly moved to the far corner of the floor and tracked his progress from the distance...he scored.

Yeah, and in the hotel - when getting currency exchanged - all you need to do is glance at their list of guests in huge print. I could read my full name, and hotel # along with everyone else. Also, I would bet a "tip" would get a copy of a passport after the monger left the hotel.

---Risk is there. Usually gringos with long hair and old Metallica shirts are preceved as poor, so I am in luck.

beyond fake e mail accounts, use the new foxfire browser that encrypts your computers unique ID. You can download it for free.
pay for plane tix in cash and don't use frequent flier # for those trips- pretty obvious but can be overlooked. For phone, buy unlocked gsm (dual band is fine) phone- they're cheap and you can purchase by money order used. Then buy or rent sim chip in country for cash. If you're really being hunted just chuck the sim in country when done and your invisible, I think as far as telephonically being tracked.

With all the TSA bullshit about showing ID to get onto a plane, the US Govt has records of every flight you take that originates or terminates in the US, regardless of how you pay for it. If flying to somewhere in Mexico, consider flying out of Tijuana or Juarez, and buying that ticket cash in a travel agency. For that matter, there are now direct flights from Tijuana to Tokyo, and I was recently exploring a possible trip to the Dominican Republic and it is actually CHEAPER to fly there from Tijuana than from San Diego or Los Angeles. And much more untraceable..

In South America, at least Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay, EVERY hotel wants to look at your passport, even in little Uruguayan towns you have never heard of. So, there is the possibility of someone tracking that down. On the other hand, a fake passport might be in order. Not one that would fool border authorities, but one that would fool illiterate hotel clerks. Or, like Metal says have long hair and Iron Maiden (not metallica) T Shirts and you will probably be ignored anyway.

I do not monger much any more (Am I finally growing up? WTF??), but strongly believe in privacy, so I try to stay off everyone's radar when possible. However, I also tend to take longer trips, 5 weeks or so, and simply do not like to carry that much cash. On my last trip through Uruguay and Rio Grande do Sul, I arrived with a thousand dollars in my pocket. When that ran out after about a month (cheap!) I used my MEXICAN bank account ATM (Banca Serfin gives accounts to foriegners, and if it is peso denominated, it comes with an ATM card) to pull a further $500 out in Montevideo. So, if someone wanted to track me, all they would have found would be a plane ticket to Buenos Aires, a ferry ticket to Colonia, and an ATM transaction that did not involve a US bank in Montevideo. I was in Montevideo, Colonia and BsAs for a total of about 2 days on that trip. Of course my passport info was recorded in little towns throught Uruguay and RS, but, since there was no evidence that I went out of Montevideo, I doubt anyone would look. And I stayed at a friends in Montevideo, so there is no evidence I was there either.

Military cannot use prostitutes?? Is that true??? No more prostitution dens like Angeles city near US Bases in 3rd World Countries???



"Release of this kind of information could ruin their career and in cases involving our military troops...proof that they pay for sex (no matter where they are in the world) could get them 1-year in Federal prison for every chica they fuck...imagine that? And I know we have a lot of military in this club...by the way guys...thank you for your service...and I mean that."



Other then that: Good info for these who have wives and other spys watching their every step!!

It is technically true. If this law were ever enforced, we would have about 5 soldiers left fighting in Iraq, and every one else would be in the stockade.

Another thing for military, REGARDLESS OF LOCAL AGE OF CONSENT, they cannot fuck anything under 18. So, if you are posted in, say, Utah, where the age of consent is 16, the local police will not do anything if you nail that high school junior, but the military will.

What I do is walk to Brazil so the airlines are not tracking me. Also I sleep on a cardboard box on Avenida Copacabana S. so that the hotel does not track my passport. This way I know I am safe

You would last about 5 minutes sleeping in a box on Copacabana. The pivetes would get you.

On one of my trips to asia, a casual buddy who's on this board had his family get freaked out when they learned there had been a tsunami (not long after the big one). Apparently his family was able to find out from the gov't without much trouble what countries he had visited and when he had gone there. If you're using a US passport to pass between countries - you are NOT incognito. I don't know how or why the info was getting passed back to the US gov't, but clearly it was.

I've always been curious what is on that computer screen at Customs and immigration? I wonder, does it list dates and locations where I re-entered the US? Does it contain my home address, where I am employed and my marital status?

When traveling abroad by air, I've never had any problems re-entering the US...ever. The agents have always been very friendly and often I felt at ease.

But twice I've been stopped crossing back into the US from Mexico. The first-time was in Nogales...I had been drinking a little and my hair was messed-up cause I had been fucking. As I passed through the border the agent asked to see my ID...he then asked me, what is a Texan doing here in Arizona...and all alone? Did you travel to here from Texas through Mexico? "No...I flew to Tucson on business". He spun around and typed my name and address into his computer.

More than a year-later I got sent to secondary crossing back into Texas at Del Rio...that was rather unsettling as they asked me a bunch of questions in rapid-fire succession barely giving me time to think (part of the strategy no doubt)...then they had me empty my pockets onto the table...I had a small bottle of lube and the chica border patrol gasped...she realized that I was not a narco or money launderer afterall...but instead (I assume) a pervert. Though I was detained perhaps 15-20 minutes...I obviously wasn't doing anything illegal and they let me go...but that border patrol chica had eyes like daggers for me. Even when she let me go she snarled..."you can go now".

My personal lesson is...if I ever re-enter the US...always do it via air. At least I'm treated nicer.

You should have told her that you were not sure if it was the right kind of lube, could she please help you to try it???

I wore a shirt with one of the Mohamed as a suicide bomber cartoons that so pissed off members of the religion of peace on it through the border at san ysidro a while ago. The agent got very upset, saying it was offensive. I asked him (politely) if there was a problem with the "expression" I had freely chosen to put on my t shirt, and if there was to please call a superior to sort it out. He sent me through...

>The agent got very upset, saying it was offensive

You should have asked if he was offended when over 2000 of his fellow Americans were murdered.

PS - you may want to leave that t-shirt at home should you go mongering in Indonesia someday.

Alecjammer writes:
I've always been curious what is on that computer screen at Customs and immigration? I wonder, does it list dates and locations where I re-entered the US? Does it contain my home address, where I am employed and my marital status?

I'm not sure either, but this brought back a memory.

I flew into LAX from Mexico City cleared immigration and was waiting on a fellow workmate to clear. In doing so I was directly behind one of the INS dudes and could see his computer screen. Now you have to realize that I'm about 10 feet away and there was a smoke-colored see-through screen between me and the computer AND I wasn't really paying that much attention to it. In a nutshell, I really couldn't see shit. But after a couple of minutes INS dude turns around and tells me either I need to move or he's going to have me arrested! To say that I was a bit surprised is an understatement. I almost came back with one of my patented smart-ass replies but then remember that the INS probably used Gestapo-style tactics in the back room and I meekly moved back another five feet which seemed to be okay with Heinrich.

So I'm not sure what's on the screens either, but whatever it is they are damned protective of it.

EA

My vote is for Solitaire.

one way to remain or keep a low profile while mongering,, well I think it really doesnt exist.
C'mon guys who are we kidding ? I believe our sisters the F.B.I. or the C.I.A are doing a damn good job in keeping a profile on all of us.
when we leave and enter our country our passports go through a machine (computer ) that keeps track of every trip we make and where we make it. then most of us ( not me) use credit cards like crazy. we know these are very traceable. the only way to keep our trade very secretive is to use fake everything, (passport, credit cards, id cards, maybe our faces ,) but then again one would have to be very good to do this, and have the Fake documents look so real, well to pass all the security points with no problem and not be caught.
in the end what choices do we have ??? None !!!
because the technology is there to track every move we make.

Some great ideas.
Always be careful of the phone.Had this smart one who went through and got my real number.
After that had bogus business cards made up.May have cost a bit but the thought telling me she pregoes no.I think that it is better that she ask's for money form a funeral parlor then me.