Hello CH brothers,

I am new to this website.I have been reading the posts for a few weeks now.

I am worried that I might be one the younger members here.I am 25 right now

I was considering The DR Nights resorts in the Dominican Republic.

Have any of you been there?Is it safe? Are 25 - 30 year old males allowed or is there a min age required?Please post your experiences.

Thanks in advance......

What is the attraction to DR NIGHTS? Why not go to Sosua,,, you will save a bundle and it will be just as enjoyable! Great place to start out for a newbie and very very safe..

Nights resorts in the DR. What's the URL? I'll be in Sosua as leader of a group of 3 in mid May. If its near there I'll stop in asking for a quick tour of the place. I'll see if they let me in for that.

....Are 25 - 30 year old males allowed or is there a min age required?

I am sure the minimum age is 50+. The local police will arrest anyone for being underage otherwise and any resort will most likely turn you away. Be prepared to bring your ID. Especially, try to stay from alcoholic beverages which might damage the very young, since people that drink and participate in the P4P scene under 30 are especially prone to drop out of high school.

lol...lol...lol to the last poster. I found it right away. Sounds too good to be true and they want mad money for what they offer. I saw that most of their packages are for only 2-3 nights. Kid, stay away. Just go to downtown Sosua and walk around, the chicas will find you and you're looking at maybe 30-50 night depending on what you want. I suggest short time. Its not worth the money to pay extra to have them sleep overnight with you and most will try to leave early to "take care of their kid with the flu" or something like that. Just get your nut and let them leave and get a good nights sleep. And DON'T stay at any all inclusive. Try this place out instead: www.voramar-sosua.com Its called Hotel Voramar. Also, google: "Blackbeards resort dominican republic". You can spend maybe $60 a night for a nice room and the girls he lets in cost $40.00 a pop. Food and booze is on you but its not expensive. I'll be in this area from 16-21 May with 2 wingmen. If you can't join us then read my trip report after I get back. I'll see if we can get a tour of this DR Nights place when we arrive. I'll put in on my agenda for things to do for our trip.

I will respectfully disagree with posters who say go to sosua and that the all inclusives are rip offs or not worth it. I have been going to all inclusives for the past 6-7 years. I have been to many including Viking,Charlis Angels, Xotic Beach and Oxygen retreat. They have all been great. My favorite now is the Oxygen Retreat. It is fantastic!I am going again in Sept.

Yes these places are clearly more money than hunting in Sosua but in my opinion they provide a much more safe,relaxing,vacation like experience with much better quality women. No one is wrong or right here. It just matters what king of experience you are looking for and what your budget is.
I have never been there but I heard positive things about DR Nights.
Let me know if you have specific questions about Oxygen.

Fletch, have you ever not used an all-inclusive? Otherwise, you can't really compare. No one is saying you won't have a good time in these places, but you'll pay a lot more and quite possibly not have as much fun as just going on your own.

Cat,

I started out in the pay for play world in Sosua on my own. For me I prefer the all inclusive experience although i can see why the "thrill of the chase" may appeal to some. I also do agree that the all inclusive resorts cost a lot more however for me I think the price is worth it.I gues that is why both experiences exist

Yep. Most vets won't even consider the all inclusives because of the high price, limited options and frequently sub-par service. But, some guys really like them.

I checked out the Oxygen Retreat site because somehow I thought this might be a non-financially crippling, relaxing and sex-filled vacation, and easy on an old gimp like me - sparing me the challenge and energy consumption of running around trying to figure out a new destination. Some of you guys are quite privileged. This place is more than a $1K per day for the most inexpensive accommodations (about $1300-1400 for the first night) - granted women and food are included, but still. Take a modest 4 day vacation and you are looking at nearly $5K plus airfare.

Damn, I'm goint to sound like Porker here

EVA Deluxe Class LAX/MNL inc taxes $1,275
Lewis Grand Executive Jacuzzi room 4 nights $440
Hotel transfers $100
Meals (Cottage Kitchen & C's Italian level) $400
3 girls a day/ 4 days $600 (that includes TLN) At that tip level, your main problem will be getting rid of them.
Drinks at bars $400
Misc $500

Total $3,800

NOTHING fuckin modest there. You are living XX LARGE.

Most would get by on half that. If you can fly to the DR, you can make it to the PI. EVA Deluxe is much better than Economy and a good value. LGH exec Jacuzzi is a PIMP room. Cottage Kitchen is damn good eats and C's is real "fine dining". This is falling off a log EASY.

I've been to the DR. This is WAY easier. And you get a WAY larger selection of partners.

Only KM rides easier that this. The only thing he spends more on would be a First Class airfare ($5,0000 - $6,000) and the LGH Presidential suite ($1100 4 nights). The EVA Deluxe is a discounted fare but full fare would be about $1,800

I think that would be a FINE intro into expanding your view beyond TJ.

My issue with these places near Sousa is that Sousa is overflowing with inexpensive hookers. Less than US$50 for all-nighters, that kind of thing. While I never advocate dumpster diving, which Sosua kind of is, I can in no way justify spending that amount of coin in the DR - or anywhere for that matter. Go to any major mongering venue on the planet and you'll get a hell of a lot more per day on that budget than any clip-job all-inclusive will ever be able to provide.

I agree with the above but to each his own I guess. I calcualate about $1,500 will take care of you for a WEEK at BlackBeards and the Sosua area in general, flight included from the east coast. That's all you need for lodging, booze, broads, eats, ect. And how do I know. Because I'll be doing it mid May.
I might sell this trip on eBay...just kidding...lol.

smitopher: "Damn, I'm goint to sound like Porker here EVA Deluxe Class LAX/MNL inc taxes $1,275 Lewis Grand Executive Jacuzzi room 4 nights $440 Hotel transfers $100 Meals (Cottage Kitchen & C's Italian level) $400 3 girls a day/ 4 days $600 (that includes TLN) At that tip level, your main problem will be getting rid of them. Drinks at bars $400 Misc $500 Total $3,800 NOTHING fuckin modest there. You are living XX LARGE."

smitopher, sounds like a great trip and with my low libido discount, even more cost effective than you're describing. Thanks for the breakdown. However, being that my opportunity to travel is EXTREMELY limited not just from a small budget but just plain lack of available time due to the demands of my work, I will be looking harder at destinations which offer a richer overall travel experience than going to the PI and especially AC. So mongering opportunities are a major plus, but not the driving force in my planning. All I ask for is a trip that will include natural and man made beauty, culture, history, adventure and pussy. I'm easy!

So for that matter, it is stupid for me to think about the DR - but I was just thinking maybe it's real inexpensive and easy to visit in a short period of time.

I do expect to make a trip somewhere for a couple of weeks this coming autumn, so I'm paying attention to all the possibilities. My greatest fantasy would be that Euro travel would be more affordable and I could float down the Rhine for a couple of weeks with some self-indulgent side trips to Frankfort and other hobby destinations in the region.

(Message edited by erip on May 09, 2009)

EVA deluxe is the way to travel to Asia, if you can't swing that business class fare.

Fletch; How does the Oxygen retreat work? Can you really bang 3 girls in a 24 hour period and keep one overnight for the standard rate or do they try to up sell you?

RG.

Hello CH brothers,

As u have understood, I am a first timer, and safety is a major issue.
DR nights are offering 4 nights - 5 days for 3400.
Its pretty expensive, but better that OXygen or Charlie's which is 3 nights - 4 days for 4000....

Do u have any other recommendations in Sousa, which is safe and atleast 3 star?(Other than Blackbeards)

Thanks again for the response.

How does this sound - stay at Hotel Europa or one of the other places in Sosua for under US$50 a night, then budget no more than another US$200 per day for 2-3 girls, food, etc. Then you're down to under US$300 per day all-in.

These all-inclusives, plus Blackbeards and it's like, are incredibly expensive in general, and massively so for Sosua. Once again, SOSUA IS ONE OF THE CHEAPEST, IF NOT THE CHEAPEST, MONGERING VENUES IN THIS HEMISPHERE.

These places must be doing a hell of lot of advertising in the porn community or something. Those are completely out of the ballpark prices for Sosua. Like, 500% high.

Neolooker

Did you see my post above?

These all inclusives are really pricey. And they seem basically nice. But as some have pointed out, the breakdown is just not there. Here's a breakdown of an average trip to Cuba...

$355 Air
$20 taxi to airport
$15 Cuban visa
$26 Costa Rican departure tax
$20 taxi into Havana
$160 4 nights casa stay
$100 Food
$50 Beverage
$40 Disco entrance fees
$60 taxis around Havana
$600 Chicas (3-4 per day)
$300 Cigars/Rum/Coffee
$20 Taxi to Airport in HAV
$30 Cuban Departure tax
$20 Taxi home from airport
$20 Dinner for Jonesie/Guide
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$1,836.


This is a typical 4 night stay in Havana at a nice penthouse apartment, eating lobster every night, and banging high end Cubanas.

This thread just gave me a great biz idea

Jonsie... Its only $40 a night for an apt? Now i am anticipating your idea.

Cat; BlackBeards is pretty affordable. I'm splitting the "Penthouse Suite" with one of my wingmen and its costing us $69.00 each. The bitches are $40-80 depending on whether its ST or LT. The other wingman will be paying about $65.00 for his room. @ meals a day, booze, bitches, taxis for 5-7 days you can do this for under $1,500. We are only doing 2 nights at BB's just in case it sucks, part of our plan. Then on to Hotel Voramar www.voramar-sosua.com where we are renting apartments for $45.00 a night. If you check their site you'll see that they appear to be very Bitch friendly, VERY!
Finally, I tried out Mywildvacation.com 2 years ago in Venezuela and the owner tried to rip me off. He told me 3 days before I left that everything was "all set", then had his driver dump me off at a friendly family botique(sp) hotel and told me that the Chavez Govt was shutting all the places down like his and I couldn't stay there. Then he had the nerve to send some english speaking Dutch douchebag guy 2 days later to collect the remainder of his fee, about $2,100. I told him to fuck off and I stole 2 of his whores, whom he stranded there since he had to shut down.
I bring this up because he is now located in the Sosua/PP area and you might want to avoid his place. He wants about $2,500 for 4-5 days I believe. Check out his site if you don't believe me. Moral to the story, be careful what you pay for, you might not get it, and for Pete's sake don't pay more than a deposit fee, and use PayPal not your cards. I paid $400 deposit by check. Got 2 nights in a cheap hotel, 2 breakfasts, fucked 2 bitches, (one 3some), and split. I had to pay for my own dinners on the local economy and these were supposed to be included. Good thing I speak very good Spanish and know the culture. Take care young man and be well.

Thank u everybody for u response and opinions.

I have been working continuously for too long and I need a good vacation in addition to the women.A good resort, nice clean beaches and stuff.That's why I was tending towards the more upscale resorts, though they are foolishly expensive.

Anyway I will check out voramar.The issue is I am a kinda of a shy guy and can't speak spanish....

are you sure that you are old enough?????

Just kidding....sorry!

Seriously, in this hobby there is no need to be shy. Working girls really do not give a flying #$#$ what age you are or if you try to impress them. Just be yourself, enjoy, and remember - you are paying for a service. Money is the great equalizer....beauty and age, all go out the money with $$$.

Just do me a favor, if this one of your first times, please do not fall in love!!!!

(Message edited by lovingmarvin on May 11, 2009)

Maybe I am missing the point but I'll try to give this a shot. Before I do lets remember that we are all Brothers In Arms in this very unique thing we do and there is no absolute right or wrong way to enjoy the beautiful women of this world. That being said...

--I like being catered to by the staff at these all inclusives. They treat you like a king and the accommodations are very. very nice
-- I like having drinks at a Tiki Bar and seeing that there are 30 women available to me and even after I make my choice I still get to hang out with the rest of them topless in the pool or drinking with them
-- I like the all you can eat/drink option and knowing I can have a great steak and/or lobster at any time of the day
-- I enjoy not having to carry cash and worry about the local thieves who want to rip me off.

Many of you make great points that you can go away to these great destinations around the world and have 3/4 women a day and everything else for half the price. I get that and I still think its worth it to go to a place like Oxygen.I also think its great that there are options for members of our club at every economic level. However no one will ever convince me that the way I enjoy my vacations is overpriced and I will never try to convince anyone who spends less than I do that they should spend more.

Peace Out
Fletch

Fletch

Just be advised that the value you think you are getting is very often promised and not delivered in the all inclusive venues. Very often, NO value is delivered. These operations seem to be invariably be run by less than scrupulous people bent on the maximum extraction of money from their clients(victims) with the minimum(non-existent) delivery of value. Their operations are of a dubious legal nature. There is no up side to them for delivering and no down side for not delivering.

EVEN if they say they are different.

That is why you are so strongly DISCOURAGED from using them.

It's your money but if you decide to encourage (by patronizing their operations) these parasites to attempt prey on the ill-informed, expect no help from, and disapproval from the community.

You might be willing to over-pay, you might be happy to over-pay, you might come away from your stay very satisfied you over-payed, the reality of the situation, based on the country your in, what you recieve for your money and the going prices in that country is...... you way over-payed.

To try an deny this is foolish !!!!

If your more than happy to over-pay then I say more power to you, just don't try and convince us you're not over-paying, because you are.

Fletch,

I understand your view and if your in a position to do so, I hope that you can enjoy many of the things you describe. Those are great things. My opinion is that if you have the money, and are willing to part with it to save the trial and error and guesswork, then more power to you.

But the collective experience here would suggest that you are likely to be disapointed with what is actually delivered. Regardless of the amount paid.

If you have a million bucks to blow on a week's vacation and come away having had the time of your life, I'd say it's money well spent. I just hope that the place lives up to the brochure...

Jonesie

Jonesie,

Well said. I will not even attempt to argue with you. I have read your reports. You are in a league way over my head.Beautiful reports However...

I have been to all inclusives (Viking, Charlis Angels,Exotic Beachhouse,Oxygen) once a year each year since 2003. I have had a great time at all of these resorts and the service was delivered as advertised each time.
I stongly disagree with the term "parasites" used by Smit. The reps and owners that I have dealt with from these resorts have been nothing but professional and service oriented.

I am not trying to convince anybody of my position just giving the benefit of my experience to those who were wondering what these places were like.

Fletch

Fletch,

Many of the brethren view things from their own economic perspective. It's the same thought process that thinks paying someone to clean your house or drive you around is silly or wasteful. While others enjoy the exploratory process and wouldn't think of paying someone to take the hunt out of the expedition.

You're absolutely right, there's something for everyone in the world of flesh.

By the way, Jonesie's Havana guide services will only set you back a mojito...

(Message edited by jonesie on May 13, 2009)

Jonesie,

For your guide services I think a years worth of Mojitos would be more appropriate. Now I just have to figure out how to get there.
Thanks
Fletch

Good discussion above from both points of view. I JUST got back from BlackBeards and had a GREAT time. I believe this place is the compromise between to 2 viewpoints. Whatever you do stay the fuck away from mywildvacation www.mywildvacation.com They have since moved to the Dominican Republic in the same area as BB's. You can do 5 days at BB's for $1,500 including a decent flight cost from the east coast. Keep a $1,000 for spending, pay cash USD for your room upon arrival and pay as you go in pesos RD for meals, booze, and Bitches and your costs will be under control.