Thanks guys for the info and tips! I studied redsnake for 2 months prior to my first visit...so i would be prepared. ok...im a baby monger here ...very inexperienced. Im 25, lived in Orange County my whole life...and have never been to TJ or heard of the Disneyland there until i stumbbled upon these discussions.
Anyways...alot of shit happened but here's the readers digest version. I went down there on Sat 10/07/00..left home at 7pm got to the boarder at 8:45pm. Paid $7 and parked. I brought $500..left $100 in my wallet..took out my credit cards etc...stashed the other $400 in my socks. I proceded to walk through the maze...i was alone. Made it through with no problems...got to the Taxies and made a right for the Phamacia...Bought 5 50mg v's for $55. I had never tried them before..but then again i have never planned on screwing multiple times in one night. I went with the c-meth/viagra combo...I figured that would keep me going all night. Ok..swallowed a viagra and waved down a cab...

25 years old, doing crystal meth and Viagra....

I hope you've done a will, but then again, how many worldly posession does a 25 year old have?

Well, if you are a professional sports athlete, then you'd have millions, but other wise, I guess not.

I am just amazed at how many dudes combo V along with Crank, C Meth, Xtasy and other drugs. I guess when I was young, I felt invincible. Big mistake for many dudes.

Deuce-good luck. I am not your Dad and try to talk you out of this shit, but.....
have fun.

Rock

damn i got cut off!..ok i will make it short. the cabbie wanted $6 i grinded him down to $4. got to ab..stood outside on the curb in a daze as i watched the chicas walk up and down the hotel stairway...geez...i had a mental pic from what you guys described but these women are unbelievable. wow...ok so after standing there awhile i was woken from my bliss by the sound of some kid asking me if he could shine my shoes. I told him "look i just polished them before i came here"...he ignored me and kept asking...i politly said no...then he asked me for a quarter...i tried to ingnore him but he kept asking...then i got pissed. I asked him if he was hungry..and took him inside the little taco store and bought us both tacos and soda. Then i educated him on the principle that it is rude to harrass people and basically told him to put and end to his scam routine. Cool kid but i bet he will still be doing the same shit next time i go there. Anyways...I showed my id to the guy and walked through the red drapes into ab. I made a b-line to the bar and asked for a coors light..the bartender laughed and i walked away with a corona. I walked around the perimeter...the lessons from veteran mongers came to mind right at once. I settled in a seat at the bar right next to hottie central. I felt the vanity and "attitude" in the air at that area...but the chicks were hot so i wasn't about to leave my seat.
ok...first things first...find a chica i like and qualify her over a drink (!)...so...

Thanks for the advice rock ..i respect that. Hmmmm...i know its wrong for me to mix drugs like that ...but...i'm just willing to risk it for special occassions...but it worked well and im still alive.

yo duece,

if it enhances your experience, yo i say go for it. but realize that as a consequence - you are seriously screwed if la policia finds some drogas on you. but.., you're only screwed if you get caught...too much cost and not enough benifit for me...

ten cuidado,
cs

Deuce - Meth and Viagra don't mix, even though you are 25, stuff like that can stop your heart.
Is there a doctor in the house???
Sincerely, Len Bias

ok..so..i had my eye on a certain hottie..i saw her go up for a long time before she came back down and the client seemed very satisfied...other chicas were trying to proposition me..or get a drink ...but i acted like i was broke ..and they went on their way. I beconed the hottie chica over to me..i asked her name (i forgot it though sorry). asked her if she would like a drink...she said yes...then sat next to me. After 15 min. i had her sized up she was very nice, seemed eager to work ,wasnt all tired etc. so i asked her how much for the hotel she said $70...i laughed and told her thats to much..i usually only charge $40 plus $10 for the room...she seemed puzzeled ...then we laughed...that broke the ice for negotiating. I then lowballed her:offered her $30 and $10 for the room. She got pissed..i explained that a few girls of equal caliber offered to go for $30 ..but i declined because i like her. I told her im a simple man all i want is a bbbj...that's
all. This was the last straw for her she said she doesnt do bbbj and for $30?! im nuts ..she walked away...i let her go. But we played games..

so for 10-20 min or so we played eye games..etc across the room...she giggled and came back. (I knew it was a done deal because guys were trying to prospect her and she was ignoring them during this time) ok...so i got her to agree on $40 total including the room. But when we were about to go up...I asked her about the bbbj...she got pissed..it took a few minutes but i talked her into it. We went up i got what i wanted..she had a great body so i stopped the bbbj and put a condom on on did her. before i was done some guy started knoking on the door..she yelled at him to beat it. and we finished ...when i left the room the guy wanted a tip (for disturbing me?!)

well i will keep in mind what you guys tell me about drugs ...but bear in mind i got the idea from the message board! Im just trying to follow in the foot steps of my mentor mongers.

I thought they only sold corona here in the states
Seriously tho deuce when buying viagra they usually charge the same for 100 mg viagra as they do the fifty and you can cut or bite those in half for a savings.
Taxibob

i know all of you guys buy 100mg. and split it in half...save the rest for later. A read that off the board...but no one ever talked about how to safely store the half for later use in a manner that will protect it from deteriation. All i read was the warning of it rapidly going bad when cut in half...so until i hear of more info on safe storage...i'll stick with the 50mg.

Deuce: I think it is great that you found mans paradies at age 25. I wish I had not wasted so many years and $$$ hanging around SC.
1) But on another note: You may not be aware of it, but the cops in TJ are REALLY bad. If you get caught with dope you may be lucky to bribe them, but your $500 will not be enough. If you end up in jail: this IS hell.
2) Viagra can give even healthy people heartattacks (rare). Crystall can give you heartattacks and strokes (even if you are otherwise healthy). Taking both together is probably the stupidest thing I've heard in a while. It you follow everything people post on the internet than you wont be able to enjoy your newly found paradies in TJ for long. (BTW: If something happens to you while in TJ: the hospitals there are as bad as you may think they are.)

Coors Light, what a fucking hilarious request.
next time I am in AB, I think I'll ask for it too. maybe some Grey Poupon for my food. HA!

Sorry dude, but that is funny shit.

hey, looked what happened to Len Bias and Reggie Lewis, do you remember those 2 names? probably not, both were on the up swing to be great Celtic basketball players, both died because of cocaine. Prime healthy athletes and they died of drugs. I took some V once and it really fucked me up the next day, had veritgo so bad and I had to do a presentation that morning. I was panicking. Good thing it finally wore off.
Like I said, do what you want, but I think you are playing with fire, don't know when you will be burned. So, you survived once, doesn't mean that you will live the next time, but hey, it's a free country and as the other dudes have said, the policia are looking for gringos that they can put away in jail for a long time. Since you are a young dude, all the more suspicion that the policia will take a harder look at you and not the old dudes.
I hope I never even stand anywhere near you anytime a policia comes by. Guilty just by proximity.
Your post reminds me not to stand near any young dudes in TJ.

Rock

wow...i never had so many people care about my well being :o). So you guys don't want to hang with me for fear of guilt by association..lol. In regards to the drugas..im not walking around with an ounce of stuff..i only brought what i needed at the time. one line upon parking my car...one line upon entering car for the trip home. nothing but viagra was on me in mexico. If you guys see me there: im the clean cut, yuppie guy..so..i don't attract neg. attention..you would never think i use. And the cops?!..these guys seem cool. I walk from ab to cc only...but when i see them i talk to them...i always eat at the taco store next to cc and i run into them there..they dont give me problems at all.

yo deuce,

a lot of the posters here have had mucho experience in the zona. i, as well as many others have been going to tj for years. for the most part we all just want everything to go smoothly for everyone, but as long as you can deal with the consequences, do whutchalike. if you do a rail before tj and leave the shit in your car at the border, you're ok - but watch out for cops sometimes patrolling the parking lot closest to the "turnstiles". i think they patrol for car-theives but if they see you "powdering" your nose, you could be in trouble.
with everyone on tweak, coke and viagra, doesn't anyone smoke anymore? before tj, me and the crew usually burn a couple before partying in tj.

yo rock, the not all us young dudes are dangerous to be around.

cs

HA!
Just making a point, true that not all young dudes are bad news. In fact, I was trying to help a group of young lost souls into negotiating for some fun upstairs.
Funny, I saw one dude that got into the heat of the moment, went down on a chica and then realized what he had done and was freaked about catching a disease and kept spitting his saliva instead of swallowing it. Goes to show how naive he was. If he had gotten a disease, by then, it would be too late. Heh heh.

Rock

Robertx sez...

"I think it is great that you found mans paradies at age 25. I wish I had not wasted so many years and $$$ hanging around SC"

I have to disagree with that. 25 is about 20 years and 30lbs ago for me but at that time I was going through that phase where you believe there is no woman on earth you can't score...without paying! In fact payin' for playin' was the farthest thing from my mind.

yo,

this is totally off topic, but hanging with the younger bros is a trip. we were on revolution about to walk to the zona when these two dudes asked us where was a good place to party. they never been to tj and were only in san diego for the weekend. both of them were 19. they asked about peanuts and beer and i said if you REALLY want to party, to follow us into the zona. since they were a daring duo, they came along. we took these dudes to miami for "our" ritual brandy shots ceremony to start the games. we then went to CC where these dudes flipped out. they had been talkin shit about getting chicks at parties and at clubs, but they freaked out when they saw CC.

"you mean i could screw her?"
"hell yeah little homey!!"

one dude wanted me to get him a chica but i told him to go up to them himself. he finally went up to a chica, i tagged along in the background (for moral support hahahaha). after they agree to terms, his chica looks at me and goes "you like my friend?" (putting her arm around one of the vampire sisters). off we go...
the party doesn't stop there but...
..needless to say it was fun hangin with the younger bros.

cs

Redongdo, i guess im the same way you were at 25. I go clubbing and have no problem getting free pussy. I'm decent looking and girls seem to like me...so i should wait until im 20 yrs older and 30 pounds heavier to enjoy La Zona?! The fact is that these chicas are 1st class hotties even by a 25 yr olds standards. I could get a girl of that caliber for free...but it would take time, effort, dating, spending $, and then treating her nice so she will remain my g/f....then after a week or two she might decide to give up the pussy.
Also...there is no way i can walk into a nightclub, pick up a hottie, do her...then walk back in the club and do another one...and another one ..etc. Bottom line: It's fun..i enjoy it..and if was rich...i wouldn't date any regular girls...i would just go to TJ everyday.

Deuce: Believe me, you are onto something. I disagree with Redondo, the scene in TJ serves something deferrent than free pussy in CA. BTW I mentioned that in my last trip report on Redsnake and will repeat it here: If you want free pussy Ave Rev is perfect. Any friday or saturday after 1 am there are as many college girls wasted out of their mind willing to experience whatever you can think of.
I'm not 25, but still able to score there. The girls I picked up and took to Nelson were mostly from LA, in TJ with friends, had a couple of shots ans weren't completely wasted, just at the point were the inhibitions and mommy's advice were suppressed by the booze.
But it is still a hustle, and something really turns me on about doing a prostitute: It is such a clean arrangement.

Robertx,

"...Ave Rev is perfect. Any friday or saturday after 1 am..."

Which clubs, por favor?

Regards,
Rickfeliz

Dude, I am glad you had a good time. People laugh about the Coors Light thing, but ask any pocho what his favorite beer is, and what do you think they'll say? To think that you can't get it in Mexico is actually kinda weird. BTW, there is a Budweiser emblem on the sign in front of the Manhattan Club. Good luck getting a Bud there, though.

I loved your story about lecturing some kid to leave you alone (in English, I presume) and then BRIBING him w/ food! You sure taught him a lesson! CLASSIC!!!

Re: mixing crystal and viagra, don't sweat it. The cocktail is actually much more effective if you also consume heavy amounts of alchohol. Just drinking beer isn't good enough, though. Gotta mix in the odd shot of RUM just to be safe!

I've been successful at FX mostly.

Porker: Viagra and Crystal are really dangerous and everybody who does it plays russian roulette. You as well forget about using condoms as the next step

Where is FX, por favor?

lets see here...hmmm...energy to fuck 6-7 chicas a night as opposed to 3-4. I can drink alot more than usual and still be mentally focused to avoid being mugged, safetly drive home at the end of the night, etc...it was made for and prescribed (prior to people abusing it) as an alertness tool...and appetite surpressant...so i ask you....whats wrong with the m/v combo?!

FX is on the east side of Rev. and fourth or third. A three story danceclub right on the corner, you can see and hear it from far. Seems to be very popular with the college girl crowd.

Duece - If you get bored with the poison this is some sage advice that was passed to me a few years ago... 1 beer, 1 water rotate back and fourth you'll have no problems doing your 6-7 and you will never loose your bearing.

As far as Clubs I have had success in club AO and its always fun to watch the college girls get nasty up on the balcony, last time I was there a bunch of them were dancing like strippers sans panties without a care in the world (unfortunatly they got bounced) but it was a good time.

All you fellow mongers are giving the younger monger good advice:not taking speed/viagra.However he seems hell bent on doing so,don't discourage him.

Unless you look eighteen you ain't scoring
in those clubs. LOL My brother is eighteen and says older guys don't fit in at all in these places.

Tomas

Deuce - Meth and Viagra don't mix, even though you are 25, stuff like that can stop your heart.
Is there a doctor in the house???
Sincerely, Len Bias
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Not an MD, but an EMT.

Good idea: Viagra

Bad Idea: Viagra and any street drug

I should also add that unless you've really got an ED problem (and if you wake up with a hard-on, you don't), there is really no reason to be taking V.

Someone else here has stated there is a risk of having a heart attack taking it, and that is right. However, I'm not anyone's parental unit, so do whatever you want.

Just take your 30 minutes down-time and cuddle the Chica. I also find that giving neck/back rubs do wonders for chica attitudes and the kindness is quite frequently reciprocated.

yo tomas,

your brother is right. my brother is five years younger than me and parties at club A quite a bit. he says the same thing!!

personally, i've been going to tj since high-school. revo was "bombastic" until i was junior in college. (i remember seeing drunk chicks from my high school and college get nasty at safari, club a and at peoples).

after 21 many people my age partied in pb or downtown. tj was for the zona and strip-clubs.

older guys in revo dance clubs definitly stand out, unless you look young. so i dont think its gonna be easy... but i guess it never hurts to try, and if you're turned down...
..theres always the zona!!!

cs

Scooter and Crooker...Thank you for your concern..I find the viagra useful because im shy and sometimes cant get it up...and i find it impossible to fuck 6 girls in one night without it..so i find it worth the $ to insure that i perform eachtime i dish out $40 for a chica. C-meth is just something i like to do on occasion because sex feels better on it...that is all. The combo has been used by me now 6 times. Eachtime my experience has been fun and harmless...only my face looked sunburned.

TO EVERYONE!...I read a few posts mentioning "The younger monger".."you younger guys" e.t.c.
Let me say this...I am just 25 yrs old...you guys might be older. I enjoy the Zona for many reasons...One is this:
The thing i miss the most in life was the feeling of comradary,companionship,and pride that i had when i was enlisted in the Navy. When i go to TJ the feeling comes back. In AB and CC I see young mongers and old ones...White, asian, black...fuck i see guys as old as my grandpa! When i see these older guys grap a hot young chica, (a girl that even i could not get in real life)...take her upstairs, fuck her, and come back down with a big smile...It makes me proud to be a male..this sounds chessy but that's how i feel. For once in my life...i look forward too getting older. :o)

hell, we are all jealous
I would love to be 25 again.
Just to have the knowledge, confidence and experiences, I would be unstoppable!

Sheeeet, one dude already posted one of my secrets and I have a few more for some mind blowing session.
Don't e-mail me, I'm not sharing those. Heh heh.

Rock

yo,

age is relative... me and my zona crew are all 22-30. but one time we guided some 19 yr old dudes into the zona and they had a blast. shit when were nineteen we were into strip-clubs and an occasional visit to the zona. now that we all have stable jobs and have finished school we have more financial freedom to roam the zona...

but don't get me wrong some of us have girlfriends and wives... tj is just for fun...

cs