Where in the Baja do you go for quality, not quantity?
Does a place exist in TJ/Ensenada like Hong Kong Bar used to be(good-looking girls)?
I only frequent TJ a couple of times a year, and I was very disappointed to see the Hong
Kong Bar's demise. It used to be a place where some real beauties could be found and you could just sit, smoke a cigar and watch a fight on TV with them. Take them upstairs and come back down and have them beside you some more. It was like having a girlfriend for rent for a few hours as long as you had the cash. For those TJ veterans, remember the girl named Valeria de Los Mochis? Now (anyone who had the privilege), she was truly a model that was good upstairs and also fairly nice to talk with. There were a few others whose names escape me, but they too were nice-looking as well.
Money is not really an object, I just like the beauty of an authentic, bonita chica.
I am much more willing to drop a couple of grand for quality, than a few hundred for quantity. I wonder if the Baja is really worth the trip back since I never considered Adelita or Chicago as my style. To me, those places were just a whorehouse with average girls with zero pride. Though I read that some guys rate these girls 8-9's, I would give them a 6 at best. It makes me wonder if these guys have ever gone to the clubs in LA or Miami (or maybe they just can't get in??). Denny's vs Morton's, I suppose in terms of getting some good meat.
I am looking for something more upscale. I know this is Mexico, but every town has a few stars.
I have been told about Madonnas or Mexico Lindo in TJ and Anthony's in Ensenada.
Besides those places, where else might there be in the Baja?

Pollo,
In my opinion Mexico Lindo was at the top of the list. For the older veterans like me that can't stand the noise or crowd of Adelita or Chicago Club, Mexcio Lindo was the place to be.

Much softer music and a nice bar to sit around is the norm here, and a band on the weekend. Unfortunately the girls started at one hundred dollars - in my case I was able to find some nice sessions with the semi amateurs (half hour to hour sessions) for about $50.

A lot of semi amateurs existed because the Christ- mas time and during the summer a lot of school teachers or secretaries would fly into Tijuana on the pretex of visiting their cousins or sisters. Actually they just came up to make money for the rest of the year whereever they lived.

Unfortunately for about the last three years Mexixo Lindo has been going down hill. Most of the girls working there now would not have even attracted most of the Mexico Lindo men three years ago.

I for one am hoping that it comes back - for that reason I always have at least one beer on each trip to Tijuana.

Pollo, I must disagree. The legendary Vanessa who used to work at Chicago Club was better looking than any escort that I have EVER seen in the U.S. She looked like a cross between Cindy Crawford and Elle MacPherson. A Body like a Playboy centerfold, but without requiring any plastic surgery or airbrushing to achieve that level of quality. Too bad that she has retired, as I am quite sure that I will never have sex with such a beautiful thing as her again.

It makes me wonder if these guys have ever gone to the clubs in LA or Miami (or maybe they just can't get in??).

There are hooker bars like Adelitas and Chicago Club in LA and Miami? Do tell!

As a pursuer of quality over quantity myself, I can assure you that the gold nuggets can be found...they just have to be mined alittle more then "in the day".

Chicago Club has Kelly right now who is as "high class" as they come. Speaks very good English with the intelligance to converse about allot of subjects, a (slender) model's body, AND loves sex. If you're willing to have a "drop a couple grand" mentality...she will certainly oblige. There are "others" at CC as well as AB...again, you just have to mine the vein.

Where is Mexico Lindo? I too have been looking for an upscale quieter place, especially on weekend nights when the usual bars are just too crowded for my tastes.

Many girls will spend time with you by the hour.It will usually run you 400-500 dollars a day
and that includes the night.That does not include Saturdays though.On saturday some of the hotties make more than that.If you don't speak spanish though an hour with any hottie for 100 bucks is more than enough unless you take viagra or something else.

I will check Kelly out at Chicago, thanks Aardvark. I will also take a look at Mexico Lindo as well.
It is at the other end of Revolucion across from La Costa seafood restaurant. I know because this is usually fairly decent place for some food.
I treat the TJ experience like Vegas, I like to spend the money if the enjoyment is there and feel disappointed not spending it. For the right chica, I am like an instant lottery ticket.
My plan is to start at Madonnas, a strip club which I heard the girls will leave if you pay them enough. I'll probably get sick of hearing "table dance" too many times to stay a long enough time though. Then onto to Mexico Lindo since it is the closest and possibly the best option for what I want. If that fails, then onto Chicago. Then I will have to go back to the Hong Kong just to reminese about some good times. And finally if by this time I have not found that "gold nugget", then I will stop over to Adelitas just to see the supposed "hottie central". In my opinion, it is however what I call the central area of push-up bras, silicon, and bad hair.
I want to go to Ensenada too, just so I know I covered all the bases.

I will put together a trip report afterwards. I know there are others like me that want the best money can buy if only they knew where to look. For those who appreciate that Mexico can be a great place to unwind and get away from "American" way for at least a little while.

For ShyGuy,... I was referring to going to a real club, meeting real women, and actually talking to them to come home with you. I am still under 30 and still meet a more beautiful in a US club then I ever will in TJ. And other than the price of some drinks, some Exctasy pills, and paying the doorman it is usually mutual sex for free...what a concept, huh? TJ is just something different. I do not know of any bar in the US where EVERY girl is available for ANY guy with the cash!!
And for DMan...sure perhaps your Vanessa was exceptional. She sounds like that Valeria from Hong Kong who was also exceptional. But that is what I am saying that these are exceptions that are few and far between. Anyone with genuine tastes cannot disagree with that.

Pollo my friend,

"Denny's vs Morton's, I suppose in terms of getting some good meat"

You are so right. For the best steak you can't beat Morton's. Since you seem to enjoy the finer things in life, perhaps we'll meet for dinner at Morton's on La Cienega some night and crack open a bottle of my best wine. I store it in my private wine locker in the restaurant.

At the risk of sounding crass, I too put NO financial limits on my pleasures, but I also believe that price alone is not the measure of quality. Believe me, I've had many $2 hamburgers that tasted better than a $100 steak. My friend, a true gourmet samples all types of "food" from all different regions allowing his "taste buds" to sharpen.

Believe me, my friend, I have sampled quite a few "delicacies" in the Zona in my recent trips. The fact that they are 1/10th or even 1/20th of the cost of upper-end LA escorts is merely the "icing" on the desert cake!!

Even though to some the Zona may be considered "fast food take-out", I recommend you don't give up on it....I've had many a good "meal" down there!

BillyPV, I had no idea that you were into the grape. Next time you want to partake in Tijuana, we should hit a good restaurant in San Diego and each pop open a top bottle of vino. I have a my own wine cellar, loaded with Bordeaux, Rhones, Burgundies, and top tier California and Australian bottles. Lots of stuff from the top vintages of the seventies and eightees.

It is too bad that you never got to meet Vanessa of the Chicago Club - Premier Grand Cru Classe all the way. On the other hand, Ariceli can be had for the cost of a low end Napa Valley Cabernet.

I'll be out of town for the next week or so, but after XMAS, I have the week off, so I will certainly be in the Zona for some time during that stretch.

Ahhh Vanessa, a truly beautiful female that I would rate a 10.
She's the only woman that I have seen naked, in person that i can truly give my highest rating to.
Now this is from going to LA clubs, strip clubs and many other places.
She reminds me a little bit of the part Asian centerfold model in the recent Penthouse centerfolds and XXX pictorials, except with smaller tits.

Rock

Aardvark
Wouldn't the VIP treatment at executive massage appeal to someone in his situation?
Taxibob

You know TB...I was thinking the same thing...and meant to mention it in my last post. The "opening date" of Ejecutivo's VIP section is not clear to me but a) with the quality of chicas there, b) the quality of the establishment, & c) the quality of the "sessions...it would be right up Pollo's alley.

Anyone tried the apartment setup in Zona Rio? I keep getting quoted by taxi drivers $150 for two hours with lower volume and young chicas.

I've been waiting for "your" report!!!! I'll be down in a week and thought I'd have some feedback by now.

Aardvark
How about you go with me as I have found an "honest" cab driver?

If you guys find some quality "apartment girls", I would be very interested and grateful if you would clue me in. I will be in T.J. April 11-18 and would like to try something different in addition to the A.B.-C.C. scene.

Athos
There are a few~but they are very few at least here in the states.I do however consider myself to be one.
I have never went to check it out but a few times have had people tout the girls available at "The bakery" somewhere near or in the zona.Not wanting to find myself the entertainment of the evening of some Ratero convention i declined to follow people there.Anyone else hear anything about this place?
Taxibob

I was scammed by an older Mexicana concerning chicas who were supposed to be high quality, and who hung out by a bakery.

They were just regular SGs, and the lady was their wannabe pimp. She demanded $1 to lead me to them.

Explorer8939,
She's the biggest piece of shit in the world. Her real name is Jenny, she's Mexican drug additct, that was deported a few years ago. She speaks better english then me. She says she's from Minnesoda. She got a Mexican Forsetti ID card. Only Mexican nationals get them. She tells everybody she takes care of kids in the Monollo hote next to the Pollo bar. In the top room #300. I've seen her for years. Ya know what. She's only 33 years old, but look at her face and skin and you would think she's 70 years. She scams all the Americans, she actually got $5 out of me last year. She is so good, she is nearly perfect, she could win a grammy. She beleives her line of shit too.

Don't feel bad most Americans fall for her shit. You only lost a dollar?

Westfargo...

"She speaks better english then me"

and?!?!

"she actually got $5 out of me last year"

Ok, I'm sorry WF, but this is about the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard! I'm the prototypical tourist with the fat wallet when I go down there. I've caught shit for over paying and tipping chicas on this board and the old Redsnake board.

BUT!!!! I didn't buy her shit for a second when I bumped into her last summer.

I'm sure I've been taken for a lot more than five bucks since then. But hey, this is documented! Next time I'm down, I'll buy you a beer!

And now for the bonus question, Shadow: has WestFargo taken you?

L8R...

I don't know WestFargo but every newbie should listen to what he writes.After going now for 4 years I can truly say what he writes is mostly true.Especially his insights into the chicas who work the streets and bars.
I am involved now with a chica who I would love to get out of her work but she is crazy(really)as most of these chicas are.If you ever get really involved with one you will understand.

Specific,
Almost all the guys that have had relations for any leanth of time know what were talking about.

The famous Rosio in Mazatlan, a very educated Mexican girl, I went to her graduation for the Otomious university in Mazatlan last July. She's no better than the rest. She does shit so half ass that I spend time at night in bed just laughing to myself about how stupid her and her friends are.
She hates Mexico and Mexicans really bad. She hates everybody, especially Americans. She is in love and fucks me because, as she says. You only come by once a month and I know nothing about you. That a quote! The average age of Mexico in 1995 was 16 years old. And she says Mexico is a typical example of what happens if you jam 100 million 16 years old's with 1st grade education all together. Every time I'm with her, she refers to her president as their "Imperial Idiot" It's sounds funny in spanish. I don't know why many mongers try to defend them, other then them having a hole and being rather cute. Their quite useless. I respect all living creatures. but other than having baby's they really don't have much of a purpose. Their only controbution to society is that in 1965 Mexico had the highest birth rate in the world. 7.5 children per women. in 1998 it went down to 2.7. I told Rosio that, and she just clapped 3 times and the third time she just looked at me and said lets go fuck. What a women, she knows what she's good at and she uses that gift to pleasure others. I have LOTS of respect for her.

Westfargo...

Specific, Crazy is as crazy does. But, you're probably right about your chica. After all, she is with ...you.

WasabiMas
My chica is just trying to be smart by being with me.She knows that she not as cute as she was 2 and half years ago when she started working in the zona and I am her safety net.This is probably why she worked and planned to see my world here in San Diego.
As far as me being crazy,I would have to say maybe alittle.Life when you reach 45,are divorced with 2 kids and a ex-wife can make you that way.I also know because I was in the right business at the right time and now could be considered well off that doesn't give me the right to judge other people until I get to know them.
I have gotten to know a few chicas pretty well in the last 4 years and they were really crazy.Maybe it was just the ones I picked but I doubt it.Spend more than just a day with one of these girls get to really know one and you might really understand that she is in a place she has to be.She has to be in this work to like herself and deal with her compulsions.Most of these girls really could do no other work and it is not just because they make alot of money doing this.Again I say most not all.

Fellas,
What does this have to do with "high-quality chicas"?

I created another thread for you guys..."Chicas: sob stories, general B.S., etc." (fuck it up all you want).

Nice rationalization, Specific. You sound like you really believe it. Pollo, you are the right stuff.

And, what does any of this have to do with 'high quality chicas?' I ask myself that.

The road to Hell is paved with 'good intentions.' I know, I live there.

This is my first post. Just would like to say I'm glad Westfargo is back to inform and entertain us with his experiences and insights into Mexican life. They are unique.

151rum,
I'm glad you deceided to post. However, most guys don't take me seriously. There's one guy that keep asking me. He's a regular poster too. And he can't get it right. I've gotten him lots of $20, AB pussy. I'm writing specialy for you. I'm tired to trying to prove most gals in the AB are $20 and non on the street are over $10. Guys will come up all the time and say, I want that whore for $20 in the AB and I'll do it. And they won't even thank me. They'll take the whore, fuck her and pay $20 and I'll see them two months later and they'll say "Can you do that again?" I don't have much money. I tell them you do it. JUST ASK!!!!!!! Remember, never, never, never, ask the gal how much! You tell her how much! It's so simple. Just say, "Tonight there not many guys, hows business? If she says slow. You say, ask her the usuall questions where she lives etc... NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, buy her a drink. and if you do NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, pay with a big bill. Search for change and don't give a tip.
Just tell her you have $19.87 or 195 pesos. Show her the money. Preperably all change. Never pull out a $20 bill. Remember, it's better to pay in Pesos. Just as their money is like monoply money to us. Our money is like monoply to them. $20 may be exactly $200 pesos. However, they will ALWAYS take the 200 pesos over the $20. In other words they are used to getting paid 50 pesos a day in Culican or any factory. 200 pesos is 4 days worth of work. and $20 1/3 of what the other stupid American just pay. Do ya get it? Also, NEVER, NEVER, NEVERRRREEEERRRRR.... pay up front. If she demands it. Really I can't be more adament about it. Walk out the room, and get your $10 back. I've done it many times and ended up fucking the gal the next time.

Never tip, what are you tipping for? She's just doing her job. Put it this way. If she does a bad job will she give you a discount? No! Don't tip! They'll get bigger, bigger, and bigger, and pretty soon you'll be paying $60...

There's a lot more to it then that. But this well get you 40% of all the whores in the AB on Mon, Tues, Wed, and Thurdays nights. and 25% the rest. That excellent. Considering, there's a number of gals that won't go for even $50...

Westfargo...

What WestFargo says about paying 200 pesos for chicas in AB is ABSOLUTELY true ...........

............................. for him.


YMMV.

What WestFargo is saying is true, because I've paid it just to see if I could get away with it. However, he's also right when he says that 40% (more IMO) won't go for less than $50 or $60. These are the upper tier chicas 99% of the time or even middle tier types. Hanging out with Westy can be pretty hilarious--he should be on one of those used car commercials!

Unfortunately, the last two AB girls I have approched would not budge from $70 and $60, respectively, and these were at very slow times on a Sunday and Monday night. These were extremely attractive, but not extremely well known women, whom I had seemed to have a good rapport with during 20 minutes or so of conversation. Never before have I encountered this, and now twice in a row! I just sighed and went elsewhere - the last time over to Tropical were a less attractive but younger chica responded with $40 when I asked how much for an all-nighter, and later lowered it to $30 when I complained about her ordering a third drink while we waited for her shift to end.

Hippie

"the last two AB girls I have approched would not budge from $70 and $60"

Maybe if you spoke Portugese! ;-}

Westfargo, thankyou for taking the time to respond with more excellent advice. I believe you. Also I know from experience that SG'S will go for $6+$3 for the room and CC girl for $30. This was 3 years ago though. Whenever you or Eureka posted on RS it had my full attention as they were always noteworthy. Thanks again for giving us the benefits of your experience.

151rum, shadow, and others
It's funny, a few years ago, you knew the gals on the left side of AB when entering, were $20 to $40 guaranteed. And hottie central were $40 to $80 guaranteed.
However, true to their nature of being totally uncordinated and missenformed. Hottie central gals are now $20 to $100 and the others or are $20 to $60. But other than watching the gals, I'm getting a little tired of them. Lots of new blood. But with the new "Mexican Culture attitude" It says, "Greed above all" I serious the gals attitude have change 100% in the past 10 years. There a completely diffrent type of gal. Very independent. They used to come primaraly to find American men or support their children. But now lots don't have children and haven't seen their families in years...

Roger and I sit under the heater. Feel free to say "HI"...

Westfargo- You are a player. The way you analyze a situation reminds me of a master fisherman surveying a stream. Keep up the good work.

Yo Westfargo - I will buy you a couple of rounds for all your trouble- I'll even leave you alone so you can keep your special $10 rate- Back in 1999 Texas Mike told me what you look like and seemed quite intimadated of you - so the next time I see you I'll just hook you up with two rounds with no strings attached - just keep these posts comming.

I really enjoy your insight - ever since RedSnake days - Flashlight Love haha - I have told that story to many dudes back here in Central Ca - and they laugh their asses off.

Good Karma to you!

P.S.

Gl`ad `to` `s`ee you have a` be`tter keyboard - r`emember` these` d`ays wh``en your`keystr`okes` were ``` all b`izzare`.

Later !

I don't read or post that much any more, everything just seems to come full circle. There is not much for me on these boards any more but I do check in once in a while.

I'm glad to see Westfargo is back posting. He is always good for a comical read. His spelling is mostly what gets me going. It's just hilarious, most if it isn't even phonetically correct. In fact this post is about him, I have met the guy. He's fun to hang out with and he's very well spoken. To think that a person could have a word in his mind and then try to spell it and have it come out like it does when he writes, it's beyond imagination. As above in his Tuesday March 27th post "Preperably!" Dude, I mean c'mon, at least throw an F in there or some thing. WOW! Anyway......... I hope he never stops.

For those of you that don't know him or have your doubts. What he writes is absolutely true 100%. I've seen him do it, I've seen him get $20 AB girls, I've seen him in action. It's nothing special and you can do it too. The problem I have with it is that you're going to be labled cheap, and you'll have to constantly battle to save a few bucks. You will never be able to go back to your $40-$70 girls. Word will get around. You'll always be "searching for change" to pay for things. But it can be done. If your goal is to go down to TJ to save money and fuck these girls for as cheap as possible, well if he can do it, so can you. But you'll always have to act like a penny pinching cheap skate.

For some people that have the money, spend it. Shit, what's wrong? Do you really think $40-$70 is too much to pay for a piece of pussy? For me I'd rather relax, hang out, drink a few refreshmens, meet a few girls and see what happens. I'm not saying that you should go down and recklessly throw money around, that would be stupid. But always trying to bargin for a deal to save a few bucks on some girl you probably wouldn't even date if she was back in the states just seems like too much effort for me. To each his own I guess.

T$
How was your trip to Vegas?
Taxibob

Not too good. I didn't get your e-mail until I got back. Let just say I lost a shit load of money.

WF writes "Hottie central gals are now $20 to $100" and Tmoney adds "What he writes is absolutely true 100%. I've seen him do it, I've seen him get $20 AB girls,"

Tmoney-WF is not just claiming he get's laid for $20 at Adelita but that he gets hotties for $20. Have you also seen him do this?

I've never even seen WF talk with a hottie let alone go upstairs with one.

BTW I despise everything WF represents but if he's doing hotties for $20 I'll at least acknowledge he's not all BS.

A WF "hottie" is not the same thing as a trophy fuck.

A "hottie" is in the mind of the beholder!

WF

"However, true to their nature of being totally uncordinated and missenformed."

Huh? Misinformed? I think not. I think their uncoordinated effort pays off by keeping the stupid tourists (me) and the cheapa skates (you) off balance.

However... if unCORDinated means unnattached and MissEnformed refers to silicone and liposuction, you'll get no argument here!

Tmoney,
Glad to see ya back.

The reason I do what I do -
Yes I have money, and it's wouldn't bust my wallet to pay the going rate. However, for many of my younger years I was paying top dollar. I thought I was getting "Girlfiend" material type of gals. Until I saw all my brothers in action, their so slick, telling the gals they live in masions with everything, but no girlfriends, that's why there in the AB. They make me look like nothing. About 15 years ago my oldest brother sat me down and said. Jeff, you don't fuck those gals. They fuck you! No they don't laugh at you after their through with ya. But, if you can take control of the situation and dictate how and what your going to do with the gals. They will RESPECT you. Money won't be their object of desire. They'll want YOU!

They told me about the golden Mexican rules, any Mexican or American gal will fuck and fall in love with any guy, reguardless of age, weight, hieght, etc. My brothers. One is the Sr. Vise president of MIS division Earnstin young co. The other is VP of in charge of petrolium distribution for Shell co. The other has a Computer Consulting co. with over 100 employees and the last one owns the largest Nissan dealership in Humbolt Co. Califoria. I look at myself as very successfull, but these guys are true giants at all over 6'3, when they walk in the AB they have suites and ties on. They look like the moffia. Waiters just stand next to them, the gals just want to be seen with them. They all speak great spanish. The gals are so overwellmed my them they do or go anywhere with them. The gals actually leave the AB with them and go to the Chevellas, they follow them like little puppy dogs. I've been with my bothers in their onterage, their incredable! As we're walking on the street. My oldest brother will just say, there's a little cuttie it's a bit late. I'm going to retire for the night with her. At 18 years, 5'5 110lbs, the cuttest little gal. And he'll get in a taxi fuck her all night long in the Best Western. He won't pay a dime. He'll give her my phone#, and this gal will call almost every night for a couple of weeks looking for my brother. That's POWER! I strive to be like them.

My brothers golden rules of Mexican gals are:

#1. They respect a guy that tells them what their looking for. All gals, want men that can control the situation. (But don't be an asshole)
WF translation = Never ask a gal how much! You tell her how much.

#2. Be very confedent, women are like animals, they know when your loosing control.
WF translation = Don't buy them lots of drinks or flash your money around. Thats a sign of insecurity. Remember, my brothers are humble, but very dominerring at the same time. They say anybody can buy any women, but few have earned a women.

#3. They always go there with their suite and ties on. They greet and talk to everybody, everybody knows and loves them.
WF translation = Women love men in uniforms, always smell good and dress nice. Although, were there from men are grose and dirty to say the least. However, all women only want clean men to fuck their little holes.

Again, if you've bought one women, you've bought them all. They always say, Mom sold herself to dad, we can buy our own sister. But we can't romance our sister. before my dad died, my dad
and bothers would go to the zona. Everybody thought we owned the place. Those were the good days!

You haven't fucked any of those gals until you've won one's heart over. And it's so simple. Roger is 65 years old and he's a lot better then me. He has known my bothers for years, he says he just laughs and laughs when he thinks of them...

Westfargo...

Westfargo-Thanks for providing background information and a historical perspective for your negotiating skills. The word portraits you paint are unlike anything I've ever seen and create a lasting impression. They are original in content and construction. Nothing should be done to "correct" them.

WF, I didn't realize how much I missed your contributions until you returned... I've started a WF folder just to save all these gems of wisdom.

When are you going to write the book? hehe
ag

Wasabimas, and others.
We all go to the zona, we all fuck the gals. However, we all don't have fun! 99% of the guys I meet say they have good nights and bad nights. My mission is to increase the frequency of good nights. It's bad enough most pay way too much, but then to get a BAD job and then give a tip for it! Thats why I wrote the "first customer bill of rights" If every body followed it, we would all be in fuck heaven.

For example, I read in a newpaper article last December that close to 70% of all workers work under the table in Mexico. The secretary of labor said, "the people want more roads, schools, better inferstructure, we can't raise the money unless the workers pay taxes. They keep themselfs in poverty. Where's the money going to come from unless the people start to contribute. It's common sense."

When I hear everybody complain, and that everybody at one time or another has a bad time, I think of the Secretary of labor. If you guys would just follow some really simple rules, you'd have a lot more fun. I like to drink like the rest of us. However, I think that's a big problem. Too many beers and I start to slip. However, now a days my routine is so drilled into my psyche, that it's almost automatic. And if I go to the room, I always have a great time. Period! And for the rear occasions the gal doesn't preform. She don't get paid and I walk and get my money back for the room or a get credit for another one. Your the customer, although most only have 3rd grade education, they still have a mild sence of whats wrong and right. And if one american stands up to the bad ones. They do one of two things, they go home and never come back or they get a new super respect for Americans. Without you guys knowing it there's a number of gals right now in the AB bar, that I stiffed. Because they didn't diliver what they said they would. One of them is Veronica, I super beauty, from Acapulco. She one of the only I actually fucked and didn't pay plus I got my money back for the room. If anybody wants to talk to her and her friend. I did it to both her and her friend, just ask me sunday night I'll point both of them out. As a result, she's one of the best. And she's proud of me setting her straight. The reason why I know that is happy for what I did. Is that she always says "HI" and bows her head down, sort of like a Japaneese...

Also, Wasabimas, I don't know what your talking about "West, I will volunteer my dick for you to suck"
However, there's an other munger I met that is still posting, who I know is reading this now. That didn't like me last year. He would make some remarks like that too. And it just so happened in the AB bar 6 months ago, he asked me if he can goto Acapulco with me or meet me there. I said "Yes" lets do it. I'll show you all the sights. And then after 30 minutes, he asked half way joking around but very serious too. "If he could spend a little time in my bed too" This guy is very macho too. I have nothing against fags, and I told him at wouldn't be nessary. He may be a fag but he's still a whore fucker. After I told Roger and he told me, just for any guy to joke around about sucking cock, is suspection enough. So just incase you got any weird ideas. I respect you as an American and a whore fucker, but I'm 100% into fucking women and yes they have had to been born a women too...

Westfargo...

Wow, how could anyone respect a group of 'American Whoremongers' like the ones that I have encountered in Tijuana. Does 'fatback ugly American colonialists' mean anything here? Oh, labeling.

And, I really do not "fuck whores" in Mexico, very often. It's really rather degrading to all parties involved. Oh, at least, it is for me.

Sure, it was a goof, for a while. But, it gets old. Here: some prostitute called me a 'needle-dick,' when I wouldn't play into her 'life.' I had to ask some people what 'needle-dick' meant. I though about what they told me and decided that I am not a 'needle-dick' -like I have found most of the people that post here. I guess, she was trying to warn me off the zone, knowing how easy it is to become 'soiled' in that type of environment -knowing I deserve better.

Hey, when I laugh at myself, here, it's because I'm happy I can see through all the shit people try to heap onto each other -and laughing at you. Now, what's in the trunk of your Nissan.

'Needle-dick,' I like that word.

Westfargo, if you have learned from your brothers about how to play this game so well, then why are you still paying these girls at all? Why aren't you fucking them for free, like I do? I can't remember the last time I paid for sex?

Oh wait, that's right I picked up Wasbimas's mom (or was that Marie) in the alley took her up stairs threw her in the closet, used and abused her in all kinds of dirty and nasty ways. I spit on her when I was done and threw a couple of wadded up dollar bills I used to clean my self up with down at her feet and watched her scramble to pick them up. What a piece of shit she was.

Do we really need a flame room topic on this site?

Explorer8939,
I've heard many guys like them for years, they all eventually meet and they stop saying shit. Like I said, I try to keep a low profile, but word gets around. So I invited them to the AB at 10:00PM Sunday night for a little cheap pussy and laughs...

Westfargo...