I have never loaned a chica money, but while I was down last weekend on an overnighter with my favorita she brought up the subject. She told me she wants a boob job and asked if I would loan her about $1000, and that she has the rest of the money for the operation. She believes that her business will double or triple after a boob job, claiming this has been the case for many of her friends. I have known this girl for about 2 years. She and I have become quite close over the last several months and she calls me about once a week on my cell phone. We've spent at least one night together since she returned to TJ from Nuevo Laredo. She has asked me to move to Tijuana, and find an apartment for us to live in, but that's not likely. She also wants me to take her to the doctor and be there for her during and after the operation.

My question is...have any of you guys ever loaned a chica money? And what was the result? Did you get burned or did they pay you back? Was she greatful? Did it enhance the level of confianza? Or was it a mistake and ruined the relationship. I know I am talking about a ho, and her prime motivation is to get as much money as she can out of me, but when I see her deal with people outside of work she just seems to have some class and compassion for others. Several of her friends have told me over the last few month that she is a very good person...most girls don't seem to have many kind words about other chicas.

The truth is I would love to see her have big tits. Right now they are very small, but she likes me to pay attention to them. It would be so nice to have some bigger, firmer chichis to play with. She is going to have the operation sooner or later anyway and we are only talking about $1000. That's alot of money of course and I don't want to just give it away, but if she actually does pay me back it tells me something of her character. Of course she could disappear the next day or even act like she doesn't know me or owe me and have me tossed out of Adelita's. So I understand the risk.

Whistler, I would really like your feedback on this. How is your deal going with your novia? Has she ever asked anything of you?

I would also like to hear what Westfargo has to say about it, but I think I already have a pretty good idea.

If you decide to give it to her, don't expect it to be returned.

I have a friend who has been suckered three times with similar situations.

The relationships amazingly became strained right at the time when the money was supposed to be returned. And there is no recourse at all.

Never loan money to one of these girls if you actually want it to be paid back. They might surprise you, but not likely. I have loaned fairly small amounts to two good friends who work in the zona. One never paid me back a dime, and laughed the couple of times I asked her about it. This was supposed to be a one week loan. The other paid back a little over half after I bugged her, but that was it. I have had two friends that I can think of loan money to their novias without being paid back. A girl I was dating last year asked to borrow money. I gave her the money, but told her it was a gift, not a loan, because I did not want to risk hard feelings if she never paid me back. I also let her know that I would be more than happy to accept the money if she ever did want to repay it. Yeah, right.

Nobody can tell you whether you should make the loan or not. That is a personal matter for you to decide. Just make sure you are ready to accept not being repaid if you do.

I would never loan any of the girls dime one. If you intend on giving it them that is whole different story. I have been burned on a couple of occasion with the most current one being a couple of years ago. She called me up to ask me if she could borrow $1,000 because her daughter needed an operation. She said that as soon as she returned to Work, she was in Guadalajara at the time, she would pay me back.

The bottom line is I never did get my money back. I also talked to her sister who also told me her sisters daughter was never sick.

They are such good liar's

Adelito writes "She and I have become quite close over the last several months"

And for how long has she been thinking about a boob job? This sounds like a no win situation. She's put you on the spot by asking for the loan.

Is it any different loaning money to a girl in the zona or outside of it? If we're comparing women from both sides of the fence on this subject, then I say, they're all putas. A girl saying "lend me" should always be translated to "give me". If she pays you back, marry her. At least, if she rips you off, you can tell your buds, "See those tits over there, I paid for them".

Why would I lend my hard earned money to a person who has more money than me to start with.
If you are going to pay for the boob job, fork 3k instead to get some saline ones.

She says it's about $3000 total and she has the rest. I can definitely see where you guys are coming from. I guess if I give it to her I shouldn't expect to get it back. It's a sad state of affairs when you can't even trust a money grubbing whore.

My amiga has not asked me for money, but I would not take this as typical. Last year my amiga asked me to help her manage her money. I have good visability of her finances.

Personally, I'm a little quirky about money. Loans can often ruin relationships, be it between friends or relatives. For that reason alone, I wouldn't loan her the money. If you feel that a $1,000 gift is appropriate, that is the only way to go.

From my general knowledge of the zona, I am aware that loan requests from the chicas are not unusual. I would tell almost all of the guys in TJ to avoid loans.

But, there is that slim chance that you would be helping out a friend and the consequences of that help could really be something. Only you can decide.

If you give her the $1000, you can not expect it to be returned in cash, but maybe she will work it off. Problem only is that these girls have a life in which so many people inter and exit on a daily basis that you can't even rely on gratitude for long.
BTW, I would not give her money for a boob job. I hate faked tits and what good does it to you if her business triples?

It will not be a loan. She will not pay you back. If you give her the money - kiss it good bye!

I think you should also look at her quote that "her business will double or triple". Even if (now) she has intentions of paying you back...her life and your relationship will change with her business increase and the first fight you have about her increased time with other mongers will mean the kiss o' death for your friendship & loan.

I would disagree with the consensus here, and loan her the money IF:

1) You can afford to loan it to her, and you can afford to lose it if she doesn't pay you back, and

2) You feel good about loaning it to her.

I have loaned money to chicas in La Zona, and almost always have been paid back. One gal disappeared before paying back all she owed me, and another gal just plain ripped me off - which I suspected was her plan all along.

In all the cases that mattered to me, they paid me back. Sometimes owing me money caused a bit of strain on the relationship we had - but because she was concerned that I might think she wasn't going to repay me.

As I said above, the big questions are can you afford it, and how do you feel about it.

I HATE boob jobs, BTW, so I would try to talk her out of that, but that is my personal opinion. Unfortunately, it can help her business.

Adelito,

If you have to ask a buncha guys you don't even know if you should loan her any cash, then obviously you have doubts. If you have doubts then you shouldn't do it.

Why do think strangers you only know by goofy names like "Hokey Pokey" or "Zim-Dimwit" can give you advice when they don't know you or the girl?

BTW, can I borrow a couple of thou?

Red,

I don't know Adelito or the girl he's talking about either, but I can tell you for sure that if he cares about the future of his relationship, he should NOT loan the money.

A No-brainer answer kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

Naw Redongdo, you'd just fritter it away on hookers in TJ...

I'll lend you the money Red, if you get the boob job.

Actually, there is a guy who did that - but the bet was that he had to keep them for a year. And the bet was for $100,000.

He won, BTW.

I just wondered about other people's experience with this kind of thing. I wanted to know if anyone had done it before and if they got paid back or not. I could have guessed up front that everyone would think it's a bad idea.

Ootie, why do you say if I care about the relationship, don't do it?

Thanks guys, for your opinions.

Adelito,

If you've got the $1000 to blow like that. I personaly would like to see you buy food with it and give it to the street kids. As god as my witness, you'll never see a dime of that money. I hate the fucking indian kids on the street but I would rather see you give it to the kids then a DIRTY RICH WHORE!

You and have got to talk.

And yes I was stupid enough to give money to the whores. And no I've never seen a dime. As a matter of fact they usually step it up and ask for double the next time. And if you say NO they say goodbye.

Don't do it.

Westfargo...

Adelito,

From my experience, when they ask for money they're usually planning on never seeing you again. It's their grand finally. And other words, the Fat lady is about to sing!

Don't give her any money. Just let her leave.

Westfargo...

Adelito:

I would give her the money, but, the consensus of the board is correct: you will most likely never see it again...I have made major loans to Mexican chicas in the U.S. as well as smaller loans to chicas in the Zona and have had to write these loans off each time...The problem is that it sounds like you are deep enough into the relationship that it would torpedo it to say no...

Make the "loan" but internally treat it like a gift...then, any payback will be a pleasant surprise...and if no payback, well, it was a "gift"...

The bigger issue, really, will be the effect on your relationship of her accelerated business due to her enhanced breasts...I faced this question with mi novia primera in the Zona and while in a selfish way I wanted to see her with enhanced breasts, I hated the thought of the increased attention she would receive...

YoungBrig

I was waiting to hear what you thought about this. You pretty much said what I expected. I had considered the possibility that she is about to leave. It is possible. When she first returned from Nuevo Laredo she told me she was only coming here for a month. It has now been a month. She said she wants a boob job next week because her period is right after that and she could use the time to recover. She did however say that if I couldn't do it this month then next month when she gets her period would be the next opportunity for the surgery and wanted to know if I could do it then. She is out looking at apartments in TJ and is buying a car this week as well. She told me 2 weeks ago that she wants to stay in TJ and even tried to get me to rent an apartment with her and live with her. I can't see living in TJ...it is such a shithole. Besides I live in Pasadena, I work 5 minutes from home at a very good job. I could transfer to San Diego if I wanted, but I'm not even considering that at this point.

I hope she isn't about to leave, but then you never know. Hey maybe you and I could try to discover her intentions. I know you speak great spanish, maybe I could point her out to you and you could strike up a conversation with her telling her you're moving to Nuevo Laredo and wonder if you will see her there. Of course that's kind of a dirty trick and if she found out she'd be pissed at me...especially if she really does have good intentions with me. That's probably a bad idea...forget I said it.

Youngbrig, thanks for that. You have been burned this way, huh? Are you still friends with any of these women?
I can see the possibility of remaining her friend if she at least paid back about half in a timely manner...maybe I would even let her work the majority of it off. But if I was out and out ripped for the full amount I wouldn't be able to stand the sight of her anymore. Of course I would have absolutely no recourse whatsoever. Perhaps if she had some sort of collateral...I don't know, I just wish she hadn't asked. Things were going so nice, now it looks like it's going to change for the worse. It seems like such a small chance that this can work out well. I either lend her the money and get burned, I don't lend her the money and she'll think I don't trust her, or I lend her the money and she pays me back(which nobody believes will happen).

Maybe I should just start banging her "sister" again.

Adelito,

A loan puts a strain on a relationship. A true friend will never ask you for a loan, or give you one. And if a friendship changes because money is not loaned, then there was never a real friendship to begin with.

A That's been my experience kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

I just read this section for the first time.

Now that's entertainment.

Lending money to a TJ whore! Hello, Hello brain transplants anyone, and there're free!

"To lend is to lose", William Shakespear

Mr. Innocent

I'll repeat what I posted above:

I have loaned money to chicas in La Zona, and almost always have been paid back.

Adelito,
Again, treat a Mexican gal like a Mexican guy would treat her. Just say no! She's a WHORE! She's not a cute little waitress girls that lives at home trying to help her parents. She dedicated her live for the time being to scamming unsuspecting charecters. Also, she fucks guys that are old, young, ugly, stupid, smart etc... every day and night. The only reason she's with you and not with an 18 years old with a big cock is that she's found a "Sucker" that she can milk. No, she doesn't wake up and say I'm going to lighten Adelitos wallet. But being short of cash all she life gives her a little extra appreacation for money then most women would have.
Money makes people do straig thing. Again, just say no! I have a hard time beleiving your even intertaining the thought...

Here's how much she loves you. If I came up to her in the AB and said, I have $1000 and beautiful house in Ensenada. Come with me and you'll get the money. She would come with me and wouldn't say anything to you and you wouldn't see her tell I ran out of money or I got her pregnant. Sounds funny? Many guys in the AB do that. They buy the Whores for an extended period of time. Vacation for the whores.

How can you guys pay $100's of dollars for those whores and have the courage to walk buy the pothetic indian kids on the street without giving them $100 a peice too.

I've actually fucked a few of the little indian children mothers. You should see some of their bodies. Their almost not human. They have blubber in places a normal homosapian doesn't have. I love little indian women. Especally full blood. 75,000 years of evelution seperats us both. Were so different it's almost like fucking an animal. "Bestuality" is groase but it's the closest thing to it...

Westfargo...

Funny you brought this up now, I just did this with a chica after being with her for the last 9 months. It is supposed to be a loan, I thought about it a few days , went ahead and gave it to her.

Last week she was supposed to meet me and a friend and his novia for dinner. Surprise ! She stood us up and hasn't called since. She has no problem calling me when she needs something, but when it is not convenient, all of a sudden, she has trouble with her phone or mine. I wrote the money off as soon as I gave it to her, but I also considered it a test of sorts and thought that it could be a blow off type of thing, because I know how screwed up in the head she can be. I think she is ready to walk.

I once planned a trip with her, she cancelled last minute. That was after I had given her money to go home. She hadn't asked that time, I did it on my own, hoping she would appreciate it and do as I asked her regarding being prepared to leave from her hometown and meet me out of country. Needless to say, this didn't materialize. Last month I planned another trip, with my bud and his chica, paid for the tickets and my chica committed to going, then she decides to do something regarding a business and finally gets up the nerve to ask me for some money after hinting for a week so she can proceed with her plan. I balked at it,it was to much. She backed off and asked for less, I gave it to her and here we are.

My take is she knows subconsciously I would be pissed about being being stood up for dinner and will use our upcoming fight as an excuse not to go on the trip. However I'm not taking her, I already invited someone else, I did it the same night she pulled this shit. I dropped my bud and his chica at a hotel, went to the zona, and within two hours had set up 3 outside lunch dates with 3 different chica's for this week. The first was yesterday. I mentioned travelling to all three, one committed on the spot. I already am changing the names on the tickets.

If I had to do this again, here is what I would do, she needs a grand, she does you for free for at least 500 dollars worth, if not the whole thing, BEFORE YOU give her the money. THEN you give her the grand. This way you limit your risk to 500 instead of a grand.

Finally, I agree with everyone else here, it is a very bad idea anyway you look at it. She shouldn't be asking, it puts a strain on the relationship,it's risky, be prepared to never get it back.

The thing that killed me and caused me to end the relationship, and I mean right now, that night, was the timing, she had asked for very little the whole time we went out, but then she never had to, I was always willing to spoil her, I liked it, this chica has a lot of money, I mean a lot,[ all tied up in real estate and bank cd's, so she says} but not more than me.I used money as power to get what I wanted, she used her sex as power to get what she wanted. This BS about standing me up at dinner so soon AFTER I gave her the money, showed me what I really knew all along but would not admit to myself cause it ruined my fantasy...... she even told me once In the beginning of our going out, "I'm only interested in my family." I wasn't listening.

I have no regrets, not even the money, I had a great time, it's just time to move on. Be prepared to do the same.

HEY RED !! " You know what you're problem is ? "

RED " right now I don't need anyone telling me my problems".

"I thought the same thing when I got here, hang up my guns, settle down, get some land, start over.....I just didn't want you to think you're the only sucker in town". LOL.

WF-

I've never addressed you before because I'm convinced your'e insane but for this one time, and I'M AGHAST, it has happened. I finally agree with you. LOL.

I am not loaning her the money. I wanted to know if other guys had done it and if they paid back. I am sorta figuring like Westfargo said...she is probably planning on leaving and wants to take me one last time.

However, SenorPanocha, I like your idea about a few free allnighters then giving it to her. That may be the way to go. I usually give her $200 for a night so if she agrees to some free times before the cash...I could see doing it.

btw...I am kinda surprised this generated so many responses. Thanks guys, this brainstorming really helps create some good ideas.

Hey SP!

It's kinda like the guy who took off all his clothes and jumped into a cactus. People asked him why he did it and he replied "It seemed like a good idea at the time"

Curious,

Who looks good in the fifth at Del Mar.

Mr. Innocent

Westfargo,

I like the way you think, a true wild man.

Mr Innocent

WestFargo,
I never laughed so hard at something I was actually thinking in the back of my mind...but I couldn't think of a way to ask one of those begging Indians for sex! If I see you at the AB on Fri or Sat...ya gotta beer coming!

Prieto

Adelito, your and SP's comments brought to mind a deal I worked out a few years back with an American provider who also happened to be a friend of mine. She was a part timer who only turned tricks when she needed extra money, and only with a few guys. I made her a loan with no due date, with interest to be paid by free service until it was paid back in full. It was two months before she paid me back, and I saw her twice a week during that time, which worked out to about 150% interest for a two month loan. She hinted a few times that she did not think it was fair, and I reminded her that it had been partially her idea. I am quite sure this girl would never have fully paid me back if we had not had this arrangement. It did strain our friendship, but only because she thought she would be able to con me out of making her live up to the agreement. I don't know if this would be an option for you, however, since you do not appear to trust your girl to live up to this kind of deal, or even to stay in town. When I have made loans to friends before, I always did so with the thought that if they did not pay me back, this was a pretty cheap way to find out that they were not a real friend. $1000, however, is not cheap.

If she can buy a car she can pay for her own boob job. Tell her to get the boob job and you will buy the car. Then when she drops you repossess. It is hard to get the boobs out so a car has more collateral.

694me, that's funny.

Hippie, you are making a point that has been on my mind. I don't want to pay $1000 to find out she isn't my friend, but the way things are going, she would end up with alot more than that of my money. The worst case would be to give her the money and have her disappear immediately. I actually had more trust for her before I asked this question here. I do trust her to a certain extent because we've known each other for 2 years and she has never burned me before. Of course she's never asked me for something like this before either. She seems to have real affection for me, we've done things I never imagined I would do with one of these girls. Never with any of the others have I been treated so well, gfe doesn't adequately describe it. I haven't been kissed the way she does it since I was a teenager. I guess it's possible eveything has been geared toward this one big score, but that really seems paranoid to me. She has proven to me in times past that she trusts me, she also has tried to get me to move in with her in TJ...we actually looked at houses together in Las Playas and a bit south 2 weeks ago.

I appreciate your comments and respect your opinion Hippie, thanks

Mr. Innocent: I wouldn't know. I never gamble.

Adelito: Go with your heart. You have to give trust to gain trust.

Curious,

You gamble every time you set foot in the zone

How so?

Just
Curious

You have to give trust to gain trust?

Incorrect. True trust must be mutual; giving a loan is only a one-way transaction.

A Trustworthy kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

Curious,

I thought the answer was academic but since you asked I'll spell it out. We all gamble with our lives and our health everytime we drop our shorts
or walk down a Zona street.

There have been numerous posts over the years about broad daylight muggings and beatings or being worked buy the TJ pigs for dollars.

Don't you walk in the street and keep one eye out over your shoulder especially at night. If you don't you should. Watch the locals most of them are street wise and they do.

Paying attention has saved my ass on more than one occassion.

The other gamble even more obvious STDs. Unless you"re are wearing a wet suit you are rolling the dice on some kind of a STD each and every time.

It's an adreniline rush. That what keeps me and I guess most of the other guys going down. Knowing you are an addict and have a problem is half the battle.

Rationalization is an amazing psycological mechanism, however if it is over employed the
the resulting state of mind becomes delusional. It becomes more and more difficult to tell the difference between reality and illusion, safety
and danger.

If you don't see the gamble while spending time in the Zone I would stop going there or start looking around you a a lot closer.

Mr. Innocent

OoTie:

I think we are saying the same thing. Trust is not a one way street. If HE doesn't trust HER, is she gonna trust him? He has to trust her for her to trust him. Has nothing to do with the loan, per se.


Mr. Innocent:

That means everything is a risk. Sitting here right now typing on this keyboard is a risk. A plane might fall out of the sky and crush me. An errant electrical charge could come out and electrocute me. I could choke on the nuts I am eating.

But these are all things we accept - usually on a daily basis, and without considering them as gambling or taking a risk beyond what we are willing to accept. We all make choices along those lines, and we all perceive risk differently. What I may see as acceptable (or not even really THINK about it in terms of risk) you might consider too risky to proceed.

So I guess I don't see going to TJ as a "gamble". I pretty much know what I am getting into, and I pretty much know what to expect as far as results are. Now the drive DOWN there might be another matter altogether...

I wouldn't loan her the money.

If she's making $200 - $400 a day why does she need your $1000 ???

If she is willing to postpone her surgery for a month, how much additional money will she have made by then ??

I think she is testing you to she how far under her spell you are !!!

I say when they start asking for loans...it's time to move on to the next one !!!

If her business is great she shouldn't need your money. If her business is slow...she should lower her price, increase volume...and she still wouldn't need your money.

She is testing you to see if you can be used.

Just my opinion...don't take it personal.

....."I've actually fucked a few of the little indian children mothers. You should see some of their bodies. Their almost not human. They have blubber in places a normal homosapian doesn't have. I love little indian women. Especally full blood. 75,000 years of evelution seperats us both. Were so different it's almost like fucking an animal. "Bestuality" is groase but it's the closest thing to it... "

CLASSIC, completely classic, unforgetable Westfargo!

I swear to god you should write a book, spelling errors and all. I would buy it. I would read it. I would recomend it to a friend.

I've seen Red write some funny shit but I'm dying here, my sides are killing me. OH MY GOD WHERE DOES HE COME UP WITH THIS STUFF!

Curious,

Key words, "pretty much know". If it ain't for sure it's a gamble. I won't say anything else
except, rationalization is an interesting thing.

Bigbadblkwolf,

The problem with leaving her and moving on to the next chica is this...this girl and I already have a relationship established. Yes I could find plenty of girls that will give me good service...my last favorita just returned after a 7 month hiatus, and I'd love the chance to get back in bed with her...but, sex with my amiga especial really is alot better, ALOT more intimate. Ever since we became lovers instead of just friends, I have experienced something that I haven't with other girls down there. No girl down there that I know of is going to kiss my so uninhibittedly, or do the other things that I don't think I should talk about publicly. So it is easy to say just dump her and move on to the next, but the next will not be as good...I know this to be true. Also it is not as if this is my first experience with a ho and I've fallen completely under her spell, I've been going to AB for 2 years and been with about 50 different girls there, and yes many of them have asked me for more money and I've never even considered it.

As far as how much she makes, she tells me she averages about 2 clientes a night, sometimes more, sometimes none. So I really don't believe that she makes $200-$400 a night.

You do make very good points and I am not disagreeing with you, especially when you said she is testing me to see if I am under her spell and can be used. But I think many women would do this if she thinks a man has a lot of money. What do they say? The squeaky wheel gets the grease. And these women are just not shy about speaking up when they want something, just try going to a restaurant with one of them and when they want a waiters attention watch them wave their arms and make noises until they're noticed.

btw...I know this means exactly nothing, but she tells me she loves me.

The problem with loaning people money: Even if you get the best case sceniro of the person paying you back in full there will be another potential problem.

Since they paid you back already, future requests for larger loans are not far behind. Loaning money to me is like russian roulette eventually you are going to get blasted.

The problem is if you don't lend money(if you have the money to lend) to a "friend" the assumption is that you don't have confidence in them. If you lend them the money then you are faced with a potential assortment of problems.

One point I would like to add.

If a "con artist" was smart they would start by loaning a smaller percentage of what they want to con out of the sucker and pay them back.

This will develop confidence in the person who is about to be taken to the cleaners. Then all the con artist has to do is wait awhile and ask for a larger "loan".

I have fallen victim to this exact technique, although not in TJ. I was never sure if it was planned when she paid back the first couple of loans, but I am pretty sure it was the intention all along on the third, larger loan. Geeze, what is this world coming to when you can't trust a drug-using topless dancer?

Like the song says(can't remember what it is called) "every now and then everyone plays the sucker".

It's just part of life and the sooner you accept it the better off you will be imho.

Adelito,

Have you heard from her? When are you going to AB next?

One note on Adelito's proposed Loan. A have been with the chica in question. She gave me a DEAL of $40 to go upstairs... but she decided upstairs that I couldn't play with her tits without an extra $10. This Chica KNOWS how to WORK a man. She had me in and out of there very quickly (as she is quite skilled at the snake). I kinda wish that I had NOT bargained with her. The next time, i'll pay the full $50 and give her a big titty twister. Then I'll tell her to stop asking Adelito for money.

What a whore eh!

Hey you jerk don't talk about my ho like she's some cheap money grubber...you get what you pay for ya damn tightwad.

btw welcome to the board buddy

Ok Adelito... I am the one that first brought you to AB. You owe it all to me!!!!

btw, has anybody rented or leased condos down in TJ?

Adelito,
Couple of points, one has already been hit on. If she has the money for a car, why not spend it on the boob job?
You talk of it being a relationship. Has she ever talked about giving up the work for you? I feel, if she "borrows" the money from you and says she cares about you, but still works it's almost a slap in your face.
Hey life is full of tough questions/problems we have to deal with. Ultimately, you're the only one who can answer this.
What you have to ask yourself, do you have the money to "loan" her and can you deal with the fact you might not be paid back? Finally, can you handle the fact how she will work to be able to pay you back, if she does?
Just one person's thoughts.

Senyorpanocha,
I beleive you story! It's so predictable. Almost every guy in the zona that has loaned money to the whores has had that experience.
Also, Mexicans live for the moment, although they do make TONS of loot. They actually save or invest very little. They're familiy and freinds take almost all of it. You should see how some of the high roller live. Coachroach infested apartments. They make $500 + a night but they don't have a pot to piss in. I ask, where's all your money. They say, they own lots of realistate etc... But if you inquire more you'll find out they just blow it and their family steals it!

Adelito,
The best thing to do. Is don't see her or talk to her. Go find another one. She knows your ready to break. And if you see her she'll some how get the money out of you. Your in no condition to negociate with her. Just go away. Or give me the money. You and I will go get a few young virgins and fuck them. Lets go to Plaza Caracell next Sunday. There's lots of free PERFECT 18 years old pussy that hasn't been touched. They also would love to bring home an American to their parents. You would make them so proud!!!!

Innocent, Prieto,
Actually it's pretty fun fucking those indian gals on Revolution. I fucked a grandmother that was 34 years old! Just be kind and ask them. Above all, don't buy anything from them. REMEMBER! You wan't GOOD sex, and when money enters the picture they only give you their pussy and not their soul. Your the leaders of the free world, you should only get the best. And always have the indians take a shower before. They don't shave their armpits so they sink real bad when they take off their clothes. Also, they look real diskusting. BUT! They are real women and they rather exotic too. So injoy!

Tmoney,
I was thinking of taking picture of me fucking one of them. They're so weird looking without their clothes. I'm serious! They don't walk, talk, fuck, like us at all. They even make strainge noices when they fuck. It's is so weird. They sort of sound like hungry kittens. Meeow! Meeooow!! Fucking Weird! You've got to try one. Don't forget the shower!

Westfargo...
Innocent, Prito,

Westfargo,

Question:

Did you drop out of school in the fifth grade or is your horrific spelling all a clever act?

Anywey hav fun fackeng yur engine womans. Maybe you can botle up ther stink and sell it as perfume.

Hey Westfargo,

I read on another board that there is a club called Teatro down in Las Playas where the hottest chica's in Mexico hang out. Maybe we ought to check that out. It's a legit place, not a hooker bar and Milkman saws the girls are real classy and gorgeous. That ought to take my mind off the chica that wants the loan. That's funny what you said that I'm in no condition to talk to her or she'll make me give her the cash. You crack me up man.

I don't think I can go this weekend though, I am working about 40 hours OT this week and I'm gonna need to stay home for my 1 day off to recover.

Hey did you ever get your car back?

Adelito will crack and give it to her. He needs an intervention. I've seen this glazed look in his eyes before. It's like when he has WAY WAY WAY too much to drink and can't remember what he did the next day. She's gonna suck that cash out of him. In a way, I feel like I am about to loan it to her since Adelito owes me. I'm certain that if he loans it to HER that I will not get paid back. I'm kind'of a third party beneficiary here that will feel the pain and suffer the consequences of whatever Senor Adelito does...

I'm very scared. very very very scared. Anybody care to help me do an intervention on Adelito at AB??? We can line up Chica after Chica for him and make DAMN sure he has a great time... When it is all over and he has been 'sucked' dry, he'll still have about $700 to go home to. i'll even buy a round or too of Cervezas for the Intervention team!!!!

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on another note, I DO know how he feels, i've been in the corner a time or two myself and struggled to make the right call... In any case,,, LONG LIVE ADELITO!!!

Oh yes, please bring Westfargo to Teatro. Wednesday night, ladies night! Please oh please oh please!

Tmoney, is Wed. really Ladies Night at Teatro? And if you know the place , is it as good as Milkman says?

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Teatro, Adelito, Tmoney,
Wednesday night, Lets do it! No backing out too. If there's freebee's we'll get them. My mouth is already watering, thinking about eating a nice little virgins pussy. There's nothing like it. I don't care if it laidie's night or not, we'll score. I was planning on going Tuesday night, but I can change for the TEATRO.

Are you sure it's a dance club? I've been to a couple of Teatro's in Mexico. They're live play's preformed in those places. Or maybe at night they do dancing. WOW! There's probuble some nice rich classy Mexican virgins in there.

Good choice! Who's driving? And where is
it?

I hate to tell people what to do. But most of you guys drink way to much and although your not acaholics, you guys do things you normaly wouldn't do if you weren't drunk or feeling good. ie(Pay $50 for a piece of ass) Or give $1000 to a two big TJ whore. Get the picture!

Westfargo...

Will someone please take WF to Iguana's and leave him there!

the Teatro. I wish i could make it guys... but alas,,, i live in the midwest and only get to so.cal about 1x every other month... I'll be there for 3wks in July. Maybe we can all go to Teatro then too!!!!

I hope so!

WF,
I would like to go Wed., but cannot commit. I am scheduled for alot of OT next week. As soon as I know I will let you know. I did talk to someone about working Fri night for me, so that might be better. I am happy to drive, but I live in Pasadena and Riverside is way out of the way for me. Hopefully we'll be able to figure some place to meet.

I wish I was at Adelita's right now.

I just spoke with the novia. My buddy is down at AB tonight and he saw her and had her call me on his cell phone. She didn't say anything about the loan and neither did I. She did say she found an apartment and has moved, so it looks like she isn't leaving town anytime soon. She asked if I could come see her tomorrow night and spend the night, but she needs to work til 3:00am. I wanted to go so bad tonight but had to work, but I guess I will head down tomorrow. I don't think I want to stay the whole night though since I've been working so much. I will probably go about 9:00 from Pasadena.

Westfargo, what about it? Are you going Sat. night? Maybe we could check out Teatro then. Let me know. I could probably do that and then go on in to AB a little later and hang out for awhile with my chica before driving back

Adelito,
I can go next Saturday night. But you can't invite that AB whore with you. Sorry! Don't call it or speak to it. I'm your friend, I don't want your money, well..,,.. I do want your money, but I won't ask you for it.
Keep away from that whore in partictular. This is sort of getting diskugusting!
Lets go next friday or Saturday night to the Teatro and get some REAL pussy.

I'll get pussy for all of us! I like the young virgins. Those are the sweetest, you can go meet their parents, etc... Their just discovering their bodies. That's when their the funnest. They can't fuck worth a shit, but there's not like fucking a 18 years old doggie style for the first time. You should see the look on their faces when I'm fucking them doggie style and I pull my cock out of them and suck their shiney wet pussy and jam my cock back in their pussy and lean over and try to french kiss them. Afterwards they this dear in the head light look. And then when I meet them again they say, do that thing with your toung again like last time...

Remember, we're after Mexico's finest. You can't buy these gals drinks. There the most cuttiest gals you'll ever lay your eye's on. Plus their very timid. But it's so fun to eat a virgins pussy. The gals we'll get you won't spend any money on. Not a dime. You'll dance with them get their number. Call them a couple of nights later. When you meet them for the 2nd time, have a $5 ring read for them. And you'll be fucking the shit kings start wars over! Within 2 weeks! Guaranteed!

PS. I hate Saturday nights! But if that's the best night lets do it. And don't make plans if you can't do it. Your not Mexican, a lot of American that spend a lot of time in Mexico start to pick up bad habbits. Like being late to everything. etc...

Westfargo...

I am almost never late and next weekend sounds great, but I just rounded up 4 of my buddies and we're gonna check it out tonight. I'll let you know how it is. Sorry you can't go tonight. We are leaving San Dimas at 7:00pm...first stop AB for a quick inspection of the troops, then off to Las Playas for some REAL girls. If you change your mind about tonight, let me know...email

Don't forget your flashlight.

We had a 5 man invasion force that went "in country" Sat. night. First stop was AB. Each of my buddies found themselves a senorita and I spotted mi amiga especial. She wasn't too happy when she found out I came with all my friends. I had told her the night before I would get there about 3:00am, but arrived around 9:00pm. I asked if she wanted to go to Teatro with us, but she said she needed to work for a bit more and come back for her later.So we went and checked out Teatro. It is a nice place inside. From the outside it didn't look like it was real busy, but once we were in, it was packed. I liked it alot, BUT it was expensive. We had 2 buckets of beers(6 beers per) and 2 apetizer platters and a couple NA drinks. The bill came to $110. If I ever go back I won't order food.

Later we went back to AB and my novia was waiting out front for me. I dropped my buddies off and she got in my car and we went to her old house to pick up a few boxes and then we went to her new place down close to Las Playas. Apparently(as Westfargo suggested) she is not about to leave town. Her new place is quite a bit nicer than the old. The reason she was mad at me earlier for bringing my friends is that she wanted me to spend the night with her at her new apartment and since I drove everybody else, I could only stay for a few hours. But what a few hours it was. This was the first time we made love in her bed instead of a hotel and it was great. It was so hard when I finally had to leave to get my buddies at AB and drive all the way back to LA. I didn't get home til about 7:00 in the morning. Then last night I got a surprise when she called me to tell me she missed me and she wanted me to come back and stay the whole weekend with her this coming fin de semana. I am weak...I couldn't say no. I suppose some people will say she is only doing this to get me to loan her money that she has no intention of paying back, but I'm starting to think that by being so suspicious of her intentions is hurting...not helping our friendship. I keep finding out that she is doing the things she says she will do and that she isn't completely full of shit like most of the other girls there that I have been friendly with.

btw she has a whole litter of Boxer puppies for sale if anyone is interested. They are only a couple weeks old and are purebred. I don't know what she wants for them.

Have a good time when she offers it and then dump her when she wants the money.

Adelito:

This one certainly sounds like the real deal...not often that a mexicana on either side of the border will wait around for her gringo novio...

Perhaps its time to start getting serious...time to start proving yourself as a novio...

YoungBrig

Adelito,
If you can fuck her with NO strings attached. No money, etc. And she still waits for you. It's still a raw deal. You should be fucking a girl that's (18) old and a virgin. But since you like the old used up gready one's. Well! As long as she's for free, RIGHT! But of course we all know nothing is free down there. Risk your life, car, sanity just to cross the border. etc...
It your dick!

But your getting there. And as long as I see potential, or OK in my book.

Westfargo...

Novio?! fuckin' duh!