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	Archive 01	50		2004/05/28, 04:57 am

I haven't done Gabby in a long time, but I must say she is a true professional. Provides good service and doesn't play games.

As Tung said "work a man's ego". As if getting paid isn't enough, they also have to play with hombres emotions. They are pretty cruel but you just have to be smart and just not believe anything they tell you. Its a pessimistic point of view and I wish i wasn't like that.

Just always have the BS/Lie detector on and call their bluff when ever you can.

Tung, I like your attitude. Keep juggling lots of balls in the air in TJ and always keep your toes tapping and you'll never be too disappointed.

Just curious, is one of your friends Marbel's ex-BF from 3-4 years back?

You know what guys, I'm gonna get even. I can't go on with life paying girls to screw me around. Besides, we're paying more than we should considering the wage rate in mex. Time to get even in the form of insult.

If I recognize a working girl and her boyfriend hanging out. I'm gonna insult him (don't worry, I have a pretty big mouth) and make sure everyone nearby sees it (gossip here spread like wildfire). That'll show the wimp in this dude's chimp (all of these guys can't stand up for themselves) and will show the girl that she's with a loser. I know latin girls, they like guys who can stand up for themselves.

I've got my ways and will definitely use it. Consider it payback on behalf of club hombre members.

No, none of my friends are marbel's ex but one is Michelle's (the other blonde marbel hangs out with) ex-bf. The romance only lasted for like half a year. Michelle's boy is one of my targets. Complete wimp. BTW, Michelle is the best girl I had in bad, she definitely knows how to work it. Most of the other girls are pretty much dead logs.

Tung...what?

RE: Vanessa, and most bar girls
You'll find that getting stood up is a regular thing.

RE: "corner of your eyes...look at you deeply...catch them doing it, she'll smile...major signal of true interest"
I disagree very, very strongly. You can't predict a girl's desires and motivations...especially a bar girl's, with such a simplistic formula. Think of it this way, could you fake the actions you described if it would mean a lot of money to you? The girls are professionals and know how to work a guy's emotions and pocketbook. I really think you need to realize this because you sound like a really easy mark, and one of the reasons we're here on this site is to help each other avoid being taken advantage of.

RE: "I'm gonna get even...insult him...payback"
If you try, you are going to lose. For one thing, you're still under the mistaken assumption that they might actually be concerned about what you think. At best, all you're going to do is provide gossip fodder for the girls regarding how you're acting. At worst, you may go farther than you intend and end up having:
A) an angry American boyfriend,
B) an angry local boyfriend,
C) Friends in addition to A or B,
D) Bar management,
E) Police officers, or
F) a combination of the above
in your face and not too happy with your actions. Remember you are in a foreign country and rules don't apply as they do in the US.

IMHO, one of the most dangerous qualities you can have in TJ is overconfidence. Think before you act because TJ surprises can be very unpleasant.

RE: "waiting around like a chump that got dumped"
RE: "That'll show the wimp in this dude's chimp"
Tung, that's worse than Vanilla Ice. Please don't try to rhyme.

TJ is to have fun. Let the shit roll off and just go to enjoy yourself. You'll be happier and safer.

I saw Lilia in AB last nite. It was kinda weird. I felt bad not taking her up as I picked Silvia again. It is getting time to move on from Silvia though.

I was with another girl when Lilia and I spotted each other. I'm still working on my spanish but I heard her ask the girl(I was talking to) a few questions about me. The one I understood was the novio one. She ask the girl if i was her novio.

It was zero vibe about jealousy, but that she was using the puta network to figure out my AB profile since she only new me as a CC guy. Funny and flattering but it was more about "am I still going to get this guys business in AB."

She will, but she's got some tough competition.

I know the next time I see her she's gonna have a few questions or comments for me though.

I don't think I've been going to TJ long but it is wild seeing a chica fall from being ultra top tier. Maybe you guys have seen "mother time" make her move on alot of chicas over the years.

But Lily has definitely joined Perla CC and Alma CC in losing top tier status.

I saw her in AB yesterday. I tried not to make eye contact but these girls have memory and radar. She kept trying to get in my eyeline and eventually did. We said our hellos but I didn't make much effort to talk and ask questions as I knew I wouldn't be taking her up.

She isn't fat but she's has no body tone or definition any more. Her best asset is her face but it has gotten more roundish. She does have large breast too.

But she's still got something going on. I saw her go up with an hombre.

I think she is a daytime chica because I didn't see her after 7pm and she didn't move to CC after 7pm either. Not sure how long this tour of duty will last either.

I think she's picked up more weight in the past month. I would consider her overweight now. She's still pretty, but the face is entirely too round.

Oh, and she was back at CC when I saw her.

Wow, she was fairly ample when I last saw her. I'm kicking myself in the head for not taking full advantage of her in her prime.

I just never got the right vibe before. Now she is quite cool with me. Was she cool in the past and I jut missed it?

Photos: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 02 03

I thought of her the last time I was in CC. Lily, Deyanira, and Michelle(Paola AB) were the top hotties of CC back in the day.

Deyanira still looks hot and has looked the same all these years and is still working. Paola is also hot but looks very different from her CC days.

These a three very different photos of Lily. Photo 3 appears to be the most recent. She really gained a lot of weight and had alot of bad tattoos.

She came back from retirement around 2005 and worked in CC and then AB and then she went back to CC shortly and was gone again. It was a very brief return. I went up with her when she was at CC. Her body was way past her prime.

She did ask me if i went to AB alot. I told her yes since CC has been so slow. I asked her if she liked AB and she said it was ok.

Anyway she provided a good session, but it would have been great if she was in her prime in looks.

It was a for old time sake type session. I doubt she will ever return.

Photos: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 04 05 06

Photos: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 07 08 09 10

In pic 10 she looks pretty and healthier compared to when I was last with her. The recent pics cover up the tattoos that didn't fancy me. If she still looks good and provides a session like the last time I saw her I would go with her again.

Do the recent pics mean she is still active? Any recent sightings of her in CC or AB?

I saw Lily working in AB Friday night. It took a few long stares to confirm it was her. She was laughing, touchy freely with a guy. Something I never witnessed of her in prime time days. Her face is roundish and her body full. Kinda the same as Smith's current body and full face. Ironically, not too far away was dancer Kendra. Basically the new ice queen.

That's very interesting news. I'll be on the lookout for her. Let me know if you hear anything about her work schedule.

She was gone by midnight so she must start during the day.

She looks like the recent photos of her but her hair is very blonde.

I ran into Lily near the end of August. I found out the name she's using now is Nicole and she's from Culiacan. I was a little tempted to take her upstairs, but I doubt it will happen. She still looks alright when she smiles, but definitely looks older.

Not just older, but way heavier. Her personality is much more out going now to make up for her loss of looks.

Photos: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 11 12 13 14

She looks like an old Drew Barrymore in pics 11 and 12. How recent are the pics 13 and 14? I would consider going up with that version of Nicole.

Nicole/Lilia was back as of last week after being gone since September. She's looking heavy, a downgrade from last sighting and she was on the bigger side back then.

Photos: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 15 16

Photos: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 17 18 19

Photos: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 20 21 22

Photo: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 23

Nicole/Lily was working last month. I hadn't seen her since October 2014. Her sister Michelle was also working.

Photo: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 24

Photos: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 25 26

Nicole/Lily made the transition to Hong Kong in March, but I haven't seen her again since April.

Photos: Nicole (E) - Culiacan 27 28