Hey guys!! I've been to Anthonny's in Esenada quite a few times and was wondering how the scene at AB/CC is earlier in the evening 6pm-10PM. Is the selection pretty good this early??

A.B. scene is usually good during those hours. Things do not start picking up at C.C. until after 10:00 p.m.

Depends on what you like...I was there yesterday from 4 - 6 and the selection was at best marginal. Of course if you like the gorditas.

At AB, the sliding scale starts at noon. You get longer, better sessions earlier, but the selection gets better as the day goes on.

HOWEVER- If you've never been to AB, get there early and hook up with Tanya or Candi. Your grandchildren will thank me for this advice.

Thanks for the the info guys...I'm going next Friday(17th) Taking a few co-workers with me...a couple that regret never getting together with any of the girls over there so they have to make it happen this time....and one that we suspect is a 26yr old virgin(any suggestions as to a good girl over there for him??)

Find Tania for your virgin friend and he'll be thanking you the rest of his life.

Uh....on second thought, then the rest of his sexual life will be downhill thereafter.

Now I don't know what to recommend.

A Perplexed kind of guy,

Out-of-Towner

For heaven's sake, don't set him up with Tanya for his first sexual experience. She will set his standards so high that he will be sexually frustrated for the rest of his life. Have mercy on the poor guy.

Actually, I agree. Set him up with an experienced and maybe slightly older woman. And make him tell her the truth -- or, tell her yourself. She doesn't need to be particularly ugly or matronly, but she does need to be the sort of provider who won't freak him out with her own "style," and can provide something vanilla enough that he won't be scarred. Heck, losing your virginity in Tijuana at 26 is already traumatic enough ...

First take him around the corner to see Rosa Maria. That'll take the back pressure off so he can enjoy his first great nookie.

Then I'd hook him up like Book Guy says. Monserrat, Alva and Angela come to mind.

Nah, set him up with Jackie the ex-streetgirl. She's beautiful, and if he does almost anyone else first, he'll be like the rest of us and never be able to enjoy a session with her. Too bad Sylvia is not around. I would consider her the perfect girl to lose your virginity to.

As perfect as Sylvia might be to look at, I don't think you'd want an "ice queen" to deflower a young man. IMHO, I think you'd want someone that's sweet, caring, and sensitive.

Let him try Gloria, Monica2 or Viviana.
These girls are perfect for cudling and sensitive issues.

Valentino

For the 26 year old virgin, fri night in zn is not the right time but if that's the only time frame, hombre needs to go with professional chica who can display patience and some understanding.
I would have been happy to lose my virginity with any of these chicas that come to mind.
CC potentials: Osiris, Edith, Merari, Eileen, Mira, ex legend Dulce, Dulce 2, Marguerite, Jacklyn, Sofia, Grecia.
AB potentials: Sandra, Laura, Amy, Claudia, Clara, Francia, Rebecca, Erica, Rosie, Smith, Anna, Lorena, Candi, Monserrat, Tanya, morena Sylvia.

I have set up my "first time to TJ" buddies with Sofia and Grecia (both at CC). Buddies were monger virgins though, not pure virgins. Just ask one of the waiters to point out who these gals are if you don't know and you won't be disappointed.

Thanks for the great comments guy I really appreciate it. Now the one thing that I do know is that he's a little picky so I think someone young and pretty would be best(suggestions please!). The past couple of nights he's been looking for excuses to back out of our trip.

Midori
What do you mean young and pretty? 60% of chicas are between 18 to 24. Not all of them can be drop dead gordeous. I think your guy is not ready to face the music.

Guys, isn't it better to set up a monger virgin/pure virgin with a trophy girl. First, it met the high standard on the look/body department. With the dazzling first-time experience, he is bounded to cum fast anyways, and so trophy sessions may not seem rush to your friend. Once he overcomes the fear factor, more experienced providers can then give him that sensual/cuddling that he will now feel grateful for.

My first TJ experience was with Julietta of CC. I think sessions can only go better from here...

Dickho
Wait you wrote you had a good time with Julietta on her Discus thread. Or are you changing your mind after trying other chicas???

Dickcho, that was exactly my thinking when I suggested Sylvia (Jackie was just a joke). Also, I would not call Sylvia an ice queen, just a very high volume girl.

As a serious suggestion for someone who meets the criteria of nice, young, pretty, and good sex, I would suggest Edith at CC. Osiris might also be a good choice. He could start with Perla, but that would be sort of like winning the Oscar with your first performance. You would always be trying to equal it again, and usually failing.

Shit, is it just luck or pure coincidence that I had Julietta of CC and Jackie of AB in only 3 tries (the 3rd try was with a SG and it was miserable because my lack of Spanish speaking ability really have done it for me).

So far my experience is Jackie>Julietta>SG. With Athos' comment on my Jackie de Cancun (should be Vera Cruz from what I was told) thread it should be nothing but bright sky for my future ZN trips.

Dickcho-
At least you are not giving up. If you want a really good, non-rushed session I suggest you go during the day to A.B. and if you can't find Tania, try one of the other, pretty but not beauiful. 30 something women who are sitting back taking it easy. I had four great sessions with four such women on my last trip to T.J. Do a search and you will find my psost.

That's what I was thinking of....I dont think he needs the whole 9 yards on the first time. just someone that will blow him away and get the job done with the least amount of stress. Since he's nervous and trying to back out any way he can we're putting some pressure on him by telling him that none of us are getting anyone til he goes with a girl.
Here's another question....where's the best place to sit to get a good view of all the chicas?? Where is "Hottie Central" located in AB? And what girls should we definately avoid??
Oh yeah and thanks very much guys for all of your help!!

If you walk into AB, you immediately can take a hard left or veer to the right alongside the bar. As you go alongside the bar on the right continue towards the back you will see an area in front of the large screen TV and the row of booths next to the TV. You will generally see a bunch of chicas (usually the more "hottie" ones and also some that are more loud and raucous) standing or swaying to the music. That's HC.

This twenty-something virgin guy deal reminds me of a trip to the DR a few years ago. We had a twenty five year old guy who'd never dipped his wick. We got him pretty well likkered up and sent him off with a cute but voluptuous chica in her mid twenties. He came back a changed man from the experience. Only problem was three days later when his drick started to drip. We'd forgotten to give him a condom and she got him clapped up. He swore if that's what you got from poon tang every time he was going back to rosie palm and her five daughters.

Shoot that's awful, clap from your first screw. Pretty bad percentages. At least it's curable and he was sensible enough to recognize it early. I know a fundamentalist chick from Houston, went to my college, who had ONE sexual experience before becoming "changed" by The Lord Our Savior And Master Who Rules Blah Blah. She got herpes. Nyah nyah ...

Athos,
Is the Marguerite that you mentioned at CC a morena with short black hair? There is a very friendly girl at CC (I thought her name was Margarita but it may be the same one) that I have wanted to try. I've talked to her several times, but I always seem to run into her right after I've completed a session. See seems really friendly, I get the impression she would give good service. Has always been nice & talked to me at length even though I've never been up to the room with her. If this sounds like the same girl, can you give a review of her services.
Thanks

Athos has not partaken (not yet) but I have. This is the same girl which I also know as Margarita. She is friendly, but shy. She's not an animal in the room, but is accomodating and provides good service.

Sorry, my recall of detail is not up to par with Athos', but I can tell you she provides covered BJ and may give you GFE if she takes to you. Since she knows you, I imagine you will have a wonderful time with her.

She also has a sister named Cynthia, a short blond who looks nothing like her. Cynthia is not currently working. Cynthia is more physically attractive, but Margarita provides better service. Also, if I recall correctly Cynthia does not provide BJ, or at least didn't with me. Still, if Cynthia makes it back to TJ, you may want to do her as well to complete the set.

That's the same chica, Marguerita is her name, she is 19 now. Never tried her. Last year I turned down a 3some with her and her sister Cinthia for $60. I was still a rookie and had a fav at the time. Marguerita is very sweet and quiet, should be a gimme for anyone civilized.

Damn Dickcho, with that kind of luck, all the gamblers on this board should accompany you to Caliente. Let you pick the contests, and then always bet against your choice.

Actually, if it was not for some friends and this board, I would have also gone with Jackie, as well as Julietta's almost as evil friend, Amy.

Ok here's a weird newbie question(didnt see it mentioned anywhere else) since I'm not staying the night in TJ do you guys shower in the AB hotel after???? any comments/suggestions??

Midori
Read Brockton O'Toole FAQ for very detailed instructions. There is also a thread for beginners somewhere in this site. I wrote a step by step post for dummies.
AB and CC have showers so yes clean your dick and your butthole.

I thought that there used to be a link to BOT's Facts on this site, but I looked for it the other day without success. Any idea why it is not available. Before I made my first zona trip to T.J. I found it to be more valuable than any other single thing I had ever read of any location.

You can get to the BOT Faq from the link at the top of the Mexico discussion board or by navigating Tijuana -> Brockton on Brockton -> Brockton O'Toole FAQ.

Another good place is Tijuana -> A 'Newbie' Starting Point -> Suggestions from Veterans, this is what Athos is referring to

MIDORI & DICKCHO...YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING TOO MUCH PRESSURE ON YOURSELF and your new friend. Just relax, sit back, have a drink, and start fucking. If your friend still wants to back out of the trip, just cut out a pic of Salma Hayek, give it to him and tell him that he'll fuck her and she'll worship him for the rest of the night. This will get him coming down. Once he's in a club in TJ, order a bottle of Don Julio Tequilla or Remy Martin Cognac to loosen up, listen to music, and check out the "merchandise". Athos and Hippie have already recom. you newbies some excellent candidates, here are some from me:

@ CC: Osiris-the dancer (la bailarina) since there's more than one Osiris, Danniela-GDL, Merari, Grecia, Michelle-Sao Paulo, Brazil, Damaris-la bailarina, and Seleny-la bailarina.

@ AB: Alejandra/Smith-she should b. back this Fri., Marbel-Los Mochis, Mahogany-la bailarina, Ana-Sao Paulo, Brazil, braces Frida, Jacqueline-GDL, Jessica-la bailarina, Gloria-la bailarina, and Monica-Cali, Colombia. The last three are a little more "mature" ladies, but are "goooood ladies" in the sack for newbies.

Here are some waiters and bartenders who will help you to locate the chicks:
@ CC: big Juan/"Gordo", "Soncho", Ismel, Jesus, Bobby, Don Ramon, Richard.
@ AB: Willie-dark/short/spiky hair dude, big Juan/"Gordo", Miguel, Armando, Omar, Ramon, Hyman, and Victor.
I don't recom you to take these guys to the room...j/k...but try to have any one of these guys to serve you. They're cool, and they do speak a lil' English so they will make you feel at home.

As for shower, I do shower after a session but I always pay for at least 3 more towels to put on the bed and the floor.

I'll b there this Friday w/ 13 of my friends, but will b more than happy to show you the rope. Remember, the key to satisfaction is to relax, to enjoy yourself, and to treat people who treat you well w/ respect. There's a huge different between "what the fuck" and "a goooood fuck". So enjoy and Gluck to you guys.

Rock on,
Sakebomb

Sakebomb
Thanks for the great info. How will I know who you are on Friday....I owe you a beer!!!
As I stated in my question I looked all over the boards and never saw anything mentioned about the showering at AB/CC it's not mentioned by Athos in his "step by step for dummies" or in the BOT Faq....all of which I read before asking. And since this is the first time I've ever done a turnaround trip without having my own room I was just curious as to whether or not "you guys" use the showers there.

Midori, look for a big group of 14 guys, at least 1 will be Asian, some might be big military guys.

What exactly is your question Midori? Are you asking if there is a shower or if the typical guy showers? There definitely is a shower. As for others, it doesn't really matter. Some guys shower, some don't. As Sakebomb mentioned, you may want to purchase at least 1 extra towel and you're going to have to fit sex, foreplay, and shower into 30 minutes unless you pay for more time.

Sakebomb, Michelle - Sao Paolo, Brazil? You know something I don't?

As for your CC recommendations, Daniella is currently away, but the rest sound good. Well, I don't know about Seleny, she's hit and miss from what I understand.

Re your AB recommendations, I've seen Marbel turn a lot of guys down. I don't get good vibes from her so I've never sampled. Smith, Ana, Frida, Gloria, and Jessica are great newbie recommendations because they are consistent. Who's Monica?

In my steps for dummies, I highlight how to get second towel for free at AB and CC. I assumed it was to dry yourself off after shower.
Sakebomb gets 3 towels to lay them over bed during sexo for cleanliness. I imagine that's $1 per towel.
If you forget your condoms, you can buy $1 american condom at AB front desk instead of using their cheap ones made in India.
The only Daniella I knew at CC was the dark curly hair standing in the front, now back at school in gdl but from mazatlan.
Monica is not d'Artagnan's type, blonde chica standing by Jessica's de Guanojuato spot, day time, 19, bit overweight, amiga de Julie.

d'Artagnan...THERE ARE AT LEAST 5 Michelle @ CC. This Michelle is a part timer. 5'6" w/ med heels, <110lbs, B-cup, past shoulder brunette w/ blond streaks, beautiful face. She speaks English, not high volume, usually stand alone by the booths in front of alcove or at entrance corner of main bar. She was born in Sao Paulo, Braz but raised in Mex. A wonderful & nice girl, enjoyable convo, drinks cervezas. She is as good as it gets...she's not into "let me fuck around w/ your head downstairs then I'll fuck your wallet upstairs...", and she'll leave work early when she thinks she makes enough dough. Again, the only neg. is the bod is slim but not fit/tone. Absolutely agree w/ you regard Seleny, she's a lil' moody but she always delivered for me. That's y she's last in order of ref. But I have confi. in Midori and Dickcho to use their charms to cure her mood. Marbel/Marbomb does pick her client, check out Athos and my reviews on her. The way to cure a bad vibe is to have a waiter to bring her over. She can't refuse, if she does...vas a chingarla hasta sus sesos estan en la fuera (you're gonna fuck her brains out...thanks to Conejo-mi maestro en espanol). Remember, you can't feel the vibes 'til you actually talk and feel her.

ATHOS...Man...how could you disrespect the future "mother of my child" like that...j/k...Monica is another part timer, in for 2 mos/out for 3 mos. 5'6 w/ low heels, <125 lbs, nice/round/nat B-cup, big bones bod but not fat. She's the blonde version of Jessica de "Iguana"juato w/ same caliber of performance. Yes, she did put in an extra <10 lbs lately, but still looks good...yum yum chichis...hey Athos, what happens to Jes? haven't seen her lately.

Hey Midori...don't get too personal on this. I hope Midori is your name, not the mix drink Midori Sour that you choose as your handle. In case you dont know, that's a chick's drink so if you do drink that...4get bout my Negra Modelo....j/k...

Sakebomb,
Thanks for the advice. I am heading south again tomorrow (8/16). Would love to meet you, but I have to drive back up to L.A. on Friday nights.

I will keep my eyes open and look for the recommendations given above.

Sakebomb
Jessica de Guanojuato was on vacation but should be back real soon, maybe this week.

Sakebomb,

OK, I think I know which Michelle you're referring to now. She's not currently working, right?

I sat w/ Marbel the night Athos introduced us. She was friendly enough, but didn't pass my screening. My screening process is pretty well developed, I have about a 80%-90% success rate with good sessions. She might be a little cold to me cause she's seen me a lot but I hardly talked to her and paid a lot more attention to Valeria, who I had been told was her friend, but according to Athos is her sister. Also, from what you had written elsewhere, I think she might have been looking forward to hooking up with you again later in the evening.

Marbel has the better body, but Valeria excels in the face. I consider Valeria to be one of the top 5 to in facial beauty to ever grace the zona.

Seleny is high on my list, Athos' list too.

Showers: Some girls say the floors are dirty and they do not shower. I take an extra towel (I refuse to pay for it) and use it on the bed and on the floor. If the girl does not shower I use her towel.
Always wash asap after commercial sex.

Sakebomb,
It's just my name on a few boards...I dont drink Midori Sours....funny thing a few weeks ago I was at Dave and Busters with some friends and one of em ordered a Midori Sour and was harassed by the bartender(Julie) all night since she too said it was a girls drink and that he must be gay etc.....

Ok guys....just wanted to fill you in on how it went....I ended up going upstairs with Viviana(pretty good experience.) I posted a report on her. One of my friends took Jackie(glasses.) And my Virgin friend is still a virgin....we almost got him to go up but he wanted me to take the blond with braces so he could take her friend which was also blond and about the same size but with a nicer ass. I didnt want to go with her(looks just like an ex of mine)
I definitely think he'll be bugging us to go back really soon so he can make up for his first time jitters. I think the virginity plus the TJ virginity was too much for him this time.
I was looking for Ana but didnt see anyone that tall there last night.
Oh yeah and Viviana really appreciated the extra towels( I got 4 for a buck) that I placed on the bed.
Thanks for all the tips and great comments guys!!

Ana was there Friday night. I saw her walk in around 11:30.

I've been to Adelitas only once and when in the Hotel I was kind of annoyed because they only gave me one towel and the girl used it.
Do they charge extra for a second towel ?
They also charged me $11 for the room, Is that the right price ?

The room charge is $11 for 30 mins.; $22 for one hour; and $35 for all night (usually not an option on Fri.-Sat.). No charge for 2nd towel...simply tell your chica or the desk guy, "dos toallas, por favor". (Tip optional). If you want a clean sheet, find one of the room cleaning guys and ask for "una sabana limpia, por favor" and tip a $1.

Felipe
At the counter after paying the regular $11 for the room, just say "dos toallas por favor" and they should give you a second towel for free.
Sometimes chicas ask me to pay $1 for second towel and I obliged.
At CC, different procedure as towels are stacked in middle of the hall, so just walk and ask cleaning boys for a towel "toalla por favor" or just help yourself.