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	Archive	74		2001/06/11, 07:57 am

1. This is the funniest thread I've ever read. It makes me REALLY glad I'm single. The thought of dying alone and no one finding you until you start stinking up the neighborhood may be worth it and palatable after reading this thread. I'm going to download it and read it every once in a while, especially if I'm thinking that marriage sounds like a good idea. All that money you guys are spending covering your asses, I'm spending on more broads! ;-)

Chargers, the human spirit can never be satisfied. So despite the paragraph I just wrote, a nice Mexican girlfriend sounds like a great idea. I've been stomping around TJ for quite a while now looking for just about that, but no luck. Where do you think are the best places to look?

My favorita actually told me who she wanted me to go with if she's not there on a night I go to TJ. Her reasoning being the girl she indicated doesn't talk about what/who she does. The few times I was with someone else they made a point of letting her know about it, including details of the session.

Hornymike

The two types of girls I've had most luck with while just doing normal stuff in TJ are wiatresses, and girls at retail stores. But by far, the most sucess I've had is at dance clubs near downtown. Look for the girls that are in groups, they are there to meet guys. After a few dances quite often I'm invited to join her at her table. If I get that far I'll usually end up with a phonne number and a date for next weekend. All this can be affected by the amount of Spanish you know. But if I remember correctly you have at least a good basic knowledge. You should be able to do good with that, if you know more, even better. I've never tried this (for reasons that I can't go into on the board), but I meet a couple a few years back, she was Mexican, he was American. I asked him how they met, and he told me he put a add in a TJ newspaper saying he was a American looking for a Mexican girlfriend for marriage. He told me the responce was great, and he had his pick the many girls that responded. If I had to do it all over again, that's the way I would do it (although I wouldn't stop the other stuff).

Community College: Locally (San Diego County) there are classes at the ECC (Educational Cultural Complex). No report cards, No mail, no record of attendance (No transcript), so your ole lady can't expect much paper to look through, except a chintsy certificate at the end which resembles something you can make on your friend's computer. Try it...

Hey!.......Here's an idea........why not get a divorce or breaking up with your girlfriend. Why stay together if your gonna sneak around like a no good scumbag monger? Any chance of having a little dignity.......maybe just a little?.......guess not.

Maybe because the 99.9% of the time, when we're not in TJ, we're attentive & loving fathers & husbands. But your right, we should stop being scumbags and leave our wives, and let our children grow up in poverty. Who needs all that responsibility, and commitment.

Colin, you have a strange version of what dignity is.

Well stated Chargers!

I'll third that! Well stated Chargers.

OK, I've thought of another one: Mr. Shadow and I were talking about how the Bush twins [the president's daughters] would NOT be good to hang around. Imagine your SO's face when you're on the cover of STAR standing between the Bush twins?

The Senator

About the smells:

Febreeze works. Even for chica-sweat, chica-perfume, and general tobacco grief, if you spray your clothes (and your hair, if necessary) and allow it to sufficiently dry, the smell is gone. It's not an odor-masker or a cover-perfume or even one of those Wizard brand de-odorizers that actually ionizes the air (that's a good plan, too). Rather, Febreeze is an odor-TRAPPER that engages the stinky molecules and clings to them in the process of evaporating. What will they think up at Dow Chemical next?

Anyway, I use Febreeze on my hair and any wool clothing that I've brought into the vicinity of a smell of ill repute before meeting anyone who isn't up on how disreputable my repute OUGHT to be ...

Book Guy,

Sounds like an advertisement! Do you work for Dow Chemical? ;-)

The Senator

Let's take this thread global. Are there any good tips on how to get away with traveling to far away destinations (Rio, Thailand, etc.). For example, would it be possible to cover your tracks by saying you lost your passport, and then getting another one to use solely for monger trips. I'd love to hear from some experienced mongers about how best to excuse longer abscences, cover paper trails, etc.

Sterling

The passport dodge won't work if you are traveling from the U.S. to your destination and back, or with a "friendly" U.S. ally.

When you report your passport lost the State Department will put it on a list, and if you ever use it when entering the U.S. or a country with which we have an agreement to share this info (probably MORE common since 9/11), it will be picked up as having been reported lost. And you will be arrested!

Now, another possible route: You leave the U.S. and enter Mexico with your "new" passport. From Mexico you fly to Cuba, where you use your "Old" passport. On re-entering the U.S. you again use your "new" passport. This keeps your "new" passport clean of the travel to Cuba.

Only possible catch would be if you were discovered to have two passports if you were searched, or if something happened to you where you needed official intervention.

I read a post from someone that was saying he was a "dual national" and had passports issued from Mexico and the United States.

I could be totally wrong(my memory is kinda fuzzy), but maybe this is a way to legally hold two passports.

Anyone have info on this?


-snapper-

It is possible. Several countries have agreements that allow people to hold passports from both countries. Mexico changed their laws to allow this a few years ago.

If one of the passports is to be from the U.S. of A., then the person would need to have been born in the U.S., but be eligible for citizenship in another country as well.

For example, a child born in the U.S. to parents who are Mexican citizens, could end up with two citizenships (and two passports).

Hmmmm...the passport as evidence seems to be a real problem. I can't imagine a married monger would be able to take any normal trip with his wife, and keep her from seeing his over-used passport. There's gotta be a way to work around this issue. There seem to be a lot of traveling mongers...they can't all be single with no attachments.

Also, I'd like to hear from mongers on other issues. For example, excuses for travel, how to circumvent caller ID when "checking in" with the wife, skimming the money for these trips and any other things you may have experienced.

This thread has been a great resource for the local monger. I found tips like taking an evening community college class invaluable. But, I'd really like to sample some of the treats in other countries and not have it ruin my normal life. HELP!!!

Sterling

I have a friend that conveniently loses his passport after his mongering trips to the Philippines.

He and his wife go to Jamaica every year. I just don't know how she doesn't get suspicious when he tells her that he lost his passport for the forth year in a row.


-snapper-

How about this:

Telling your S.O. that you need some alone time? That you have to have some space, and that one way (perhaps the only way) to satisfy those deeply felt needs would be a series of trips away from everything familiar.

To get to this point takes a lot of work and will cause a great deal of pain and turmoil, but it's basically an honest appraisal of the situation we face, or at least it was for me.

I can only speak of my personal experience in this, but here it is (in a very abbreviated short form).

After my last trip to TJ (being an East Coast guy these are major undertakings) I came back with a major case of "post trip depression". Impossible to hide, it caused much debate both between my S.O. and myself and eventually internally, within myself.

A crisis point was reached and after much avoidance we finally had one of those dreaded "life direction" discussions.

Faced with the alternatives, all which were mutually unpalatable to one degree or another, an agreement was reached that some degree of freedom was required on my part. A couple of trips a year, within certain budgetary/time limits were part of the deal.

There's no need to discuss the details of the activities during these trips, sightseeing, meeting friends and just walking around to immerse oneself in a different culture is all the explanation I've given. Other than a hope that I remember I'm in a committed relationship and reassurances that I'll be safe and return in one piece, no major roadblocks have been put in my path. This is very much an over simplification of the situation, much more work has gone into this (work, by the way by both of us), than is apparent from this brief summary.

But it may be something worth considering.

Bill,

Thanks for the thoughts, and good luck with you "arrangement". I read your "long strange trip" report from beginning to end. I wasted an entire day of work but it was worth it....just fascinating.

Sterling

For skiers fanatics, Argentina is a dream destination. But excellent excuse to go to Buenos Aires in July/August to hobby. Bariloche is their best ski resort and you'll ski among the pro skiers from Europe who train there but what am I saying you'll be in BA instead playing with gorgeous chicas.

For scuba divers, go to Rio de Janeiro, check Buzios or Bahia but I know you'll do most of your diving in termas.

OK, thanks to Alan Lee, I thought of another one: Don't keep pictures of chicas, especially pictures of yourself and random chicas. Get them developed then add them to the Club Hombre collection. Those paper copies gotta go!

Also, don't lose any half used film or disposable cameras!

The Senator

What do you do about the glitter some of the chicas are wearing now? I had the stuff all over my clothes and body (Thanks Sakibomb I really enjoyed 'anna's company). It took me a few hours to pick it all off. Some times I just don't have a few hours to de-glitter myself. I still don't know if I got every piece.

HELP!

The Senator

Well, start wearing some daily in your normal-daily business life so when you have a "stranger's" glitter on you, no one will notice. Maybe even start marketing some Male Glitter!

It was great hanging with you after meeting you at the BAMC! Did I see you Sunday?

I'm curious what are the best ways to not get busted on your home computer. I usually do

Tools/Internet Options/Clear History

after surfing to clear my tracks. I'm basically a computer novice (my wife even more so) - this at least cleans out the address window so if she types in cnn for example ClubHombre.com doesn't pop up.

I remember reading a while back the suggestion of a Windows Washer program. What will this do that Clearing History doesn't?

I'm a bit concerned in the recent (Stealth Mode) chat discussion when Superman talks about his keystroke recorder device. Has anybody's wife/SO ever tracked their computer activity?

Yes, do not get busted on your computer. If you downloaded anything off the web, note that clicking on Start and Document recorded it all! Hit your start button, Click Settings, Click Taskbar & Start Menu. CLick Advanced, then click Clear

Gee, I am so cool and smug, getting a digital camera. No paper trail, ha ha. Just load the chica photos, scramble and store. Clear out the camera memory stick and voila, its GONE! Not. I was showing one of my "room-mates not in the know" how to download all our lovely vacation shots into the computer. One of the chica shots are STILL THERE!!!!!! It showed up as "copy_of_blah-blah-blah". I gotta reformat the damn memory stick after the next TJ trip. Better yet, I gotta fork up for a seperate "vacation" memory stick.

I don't even have a computer at home!

It was great hanging with you after meeting you at the BAMC! Did Aardvark see you Sunday?

AArdvark, likewise. I had a great time hanging with you. You didn't see me Sunday because my flight home was early Sunday morning. After the bars closed up I took yet another shower, packed my crap, and headed straight to the border. I got in line at 7:20am; got my trolley ticket at 7:45am; and was at the airport by 9am. I was back home by 11:30am Sunday.

I've got major problems. Ever since my girlfriend and I got serious and she moved in I havent been able to get to the Zona. I am having major withdrawals.

I havent found a good way to sneak off yet. I go on business trips for a couple of days every other week, so maybe thats a good time.

There is also the situation of feeling like shit for cheating on her. I have yet to cheat on her and I think that once I start I'll never be able to stop or maybe will feel weird around her. She is definatley wifey material.

The one thing I dont really understand is that she is unbelievably hot and has a sexual appetite that can keep up with me and satisfy me. Why do I want other girls? I guess I'm used to different pussy. I just dont want to fuck up what I have with her.

Anyways, Febreeze to hide the odor, what else?

Stop at Mobil on the way home. "Whoops, I spilled gasoline on my shirt. Had the change to flat tire, too." (And those little baby-wipes -- basically a paper towel with some soap on it -- come in dispenser-packs. But then, they have a baby-wipe smell.)

Governor

Just "head out with the guys"! Full speed ahead.

If she gets pissed for going out with the guys, don't marry her.

If she suspects something, it's because of your natural guilty feeling for not inviting her out with the guys. Extend the engagement.

If all goes well, marry her and adopt The Senator's financial plan.

"Why do I want other girls?" Because you are male. It really is that simple. The very factthat you posting here means that you will eventually head for the zone. You had better do it BEFORE the legal implications!

I frequently bring home fast food even after a shower down there. French fries mask almost any odor. Antibacterial wipes as well, keep them in your car, do a once over for any make-up on your face.

Guilt, I can't tell you about that, I don't have any, don't even know what it feels like. To me it's a useless emotion. However, I do have a conscience. That is priceless. I'd be dead without it.

The way I think is, this is what I want to do, I do enough.....no, a lot for other people,{ family, novia}. Nobody tells me what to do, how to live or how to feel. However, if caught, they will probably not understand...or maybe they will because I'm so good to all of them.

IN ANY CASE.....if I'm caught I take full responsibility for my actions. Wonderful wife, great novia,I don't think of it as cheating, just something I need to do for myself. My heart is in the right place,but my dick has a mind of it's own.