A desk clerk at Cascadas (alley side) pulled the short change trick a couple of weeks ago... Careful when dealing with "Juan". If you change a $20, hold onto it until you see the change within grabbing reach...

I reported it to security & the manager (for what that was worth, hehe)...
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I was thinking of checking out the Miami bar, but my cab driver said the alley it is on is dangerous. How risky is it?

I decided to stick to the Adelita's - Las Chavelas area for now.

Don't even worry about it Lovepussy. All the talk here about the Zona being dangerous is waaayyyy overrated, IMO. I've been down about 15 times by myself and have never even *seen* any trouble of any sort, much less had any trouble myself (except with the bastard cops searching me for no reason). As a matter of fact, the cops are all over the place down there. You literally can't walk a street without seeing cops.

If you are a particularly meek sort of dude, you can walk in the street and I'm sure you will have no trouble. The only time I venture in the street is to avoid the SG's grabbing my jacket, but I usually use the sidewalks because I like to see the chicas up close.

-Superman-

Never a problem in alley. Rte 123 is the most dangerous IMHO

My personal view on the most dangerous area of the ZN is Avenida Constitucion between the alley and Art. 123. Walking along that very dark portion of the street, you get the feeling that someone could grab you at any moment.

However, I had a recent conversation with a SG who works there who told me that she hasn't seen an attack there since last year, when there were lots of attacks in that area.

Actually gentlemen prostitution is not legal on Revolution or in most of the other districts outside of the zone. There is a posted police directive for this year that states it must be controlled and eliminated in all tourist areas. There is also a big movement at this time to close all the bars that have strip shows of any sort down on Revolution and surrounding streets within 3 blocks. If you are down in TJ in the evenings watch the news. There has been a story about every other day on the issue.
Many of you saw the objectives for the TJ police department posted a few months ago. I have the 40+-page document if any of you are interested in seeing the partial translation of it. I never had the time to finish it completely. My ex bother-in-law is a TJ cop and basically gave me the run down on what is really going on. At that point I kind of abandoned the efforts to finish it. If you would like a copy email me and I will send it to you. I think it is a little large to post here.

Luvdog is right. As a matter of fact prostitution on Revolucion has been a no-no for many years. I'm a prime example of gringos getting pinched... Arrested twice in the last 15 years on Revolucion for going to hotels with chicas. Best advice: Stay in La Zona Norte, where it's sort of legal, and the policia won't fuck with you as much... prog

if there so anti strip clubs on rev why did they allow lord blacks to open recently

Their NOT anti-strip club at all..........their anti-asshole. I'm beginning to wonder about the recent postings concerning Ave Rev and it's no putas policy. Perhaps it's coming from people who don't behave with a little manners when patronizing these bars. In ten+ years of mongering on Ave Rev (from the little known La Once, all the way down to the over hyped Zona Norte) I've never even been approached by the police or military troops on the Ave. If you mind your own business, they don't want or even have the time to fuck with the average monger. If you cause a problem, then you get what you deserve. BTW, this all applies to the monger who stalks the night......if you get your kicks during the daylight (shouldn't you have a job btw??), then you're mongering amongst the working class citizens of Tijuana, and your obviously being disrespectful by walking the streets with a puta anyway......IMHO.

P.S. Its 634pm here in San Diego, maybe I'll see a few of you on the Rev tonight??? I wonder how many of us pass each other on the street without knowing (or caring?) that we talk to each other on this nice little board?....prost!

Disrespectful by walking down the street with another human being? You have a very strange sense of "disrespect". Anyway, people can be down during the day because they have a day off, work nights, etc., without having to answer to you regarding thier employment situation.

What you may eventually learn is that government harassment is a numbers game, and so long as it exists, your number will eventually come up. And in your case, you seem to need it.

Kendricks........you forgot to mention you are a Marine Corp vet.....congratulations and who gives a shit. The disrespectful attitude you show me (not surprising coming from a jar-head.....did'ya finish high school before you decided to defend the country for a-holes like me......or were you just not smart enough to get a college education?) is the reason people get fucked with on the Ave. Take your truck full of explosives and park it somewhere else......flame on three-squares-a-day, flame on.......IMHO.

This is a follow-up to Bluejay's posting on 3-13-01 under the thread: 'Street girls-Vanessa'.

It is definitely a bad idea to leave your clothing with dollars within reach of A-N-Y-O-N-E in TJ.

I just wrote a "long" post regarding this and then promptly lost it after mistakenly pushing the "back" button. OK maybe a blessing in disguise.

The 'shorter' version is there is a girl who generally works in front of or mobile around Hotel Najera who is such a thief as Bluejay mentioned. Her name is supposedly Lola and her specialty is blowjobs ($10-$15). She speaks English as a first language. She is not good looking but seemingly kind and generous with time and very accomodating as to what you desire position wise and all that without asking for extra $$.

She had no problem going through my pockets and extracting the folded up $20 bill in the right front pocket of my pants. The pants were draped on the bed and wound up under my legs after manuevering into a "69" position where I was totally preoccupied.

Did not see her on the street for four weeks and then she showed up with new hair color and hair style.

ALWAYS KEEP THE CASH SAFE.

I was separated from my money clip and probably at least $70 by a girl there called China. I actually got the cops and tracked her down to her dump hotel north and west about six blocks of the Hotel Najera.

Rosa and Marta talked to her and she told them that she threw my money clip away and kept the money for drugs - more interested in money clip than the money. I am told by Rosa that the cops do run her off when they see her working, but I have yet to run into her again.

EC- I'll give you a listing of the local TJ NA meetings to keep in your money clip.

WasabiMas,
Sorry, I don't get what I assume is a joke - what does NA stand for?

NA=NarcAnon
Narcotics Anonymous

Strike Eagle- You are dead-on!

On the threaded board, someone wondered if anyone had actually demanded to go to the judge when stopped for a violation. This is important, so I thought I would mention it here. I have been stopped twice recently, for traffic offenses of which I was definetyl guilty. In Tijuana, I demanded to go to the judge, and the motorcycle cop gave me back my license after about 5 minutes of insinuating that it would be easier to pay him the fine. In Tecate in January, I was stopped, and actually taken to the judge, a process which lasted about 30 minutes and resulted in me paying a 190 peso fine, and being given a gift wrapped bible (left over from Christmas, I suppose) In neither case did I ever feel threatened. I think that in Tecate I could have gotten into trouble if I had been dumb enough to offer a bribe, as the cop seemed honest.

One problem:I was told by DMV that these TJ offenses,that get written up and go the the judge, get reported to DMV and go on your driving record here:sounds strange,but thats what I was told!I'd rather pay the the lousy bribe and go on with my life...just ones opinion

Maybe best to check with your insurance company. Years ago, my insurance agent said that they didn't count tickets in TJ against you.
Really surprised DMV would count the tixs against you when they are not written up here.
Just another reason, I prefer to walk across and grab a cab.

Thank God I do not have a Driver's licence in Ca...

the dmv and mexico have no connection guys. oyu can not be penalized for some infraction that you commited in mexico. as in the usa for an infraction speeding etc, you must be observed first hand by a us police officer so dont worry about that. as with what powerslave said he is right usually if you are nice and just ask to see the judge on the way there you are usually let go as there is no money in it for them at the judge. however if you are a dick about it then pride will take over and they will take you to the judge. anyway the fine the judge gives you is almost always less than what the cop gives you. when you pay a cop in tj you are always at a risk of getting pointed out to other cops as an easy target. take my advise and you will be glad for it

I've been stopped twice by the mexican cops...really stupid offenses: 1) Not wearing a seatbelt and 2) Going over the white line at a stop sign.
Totally BS offenses, that I'd tell a US cop to go fuck himself. But in Mexico, I never want any problems so I paid the cop $30 for #1 and $25 for #2.
I think if you have some time, can speak Spanish well, and care about every dollar then ask to see the judge. But if not, then don't waste your time.

I really doubt any Mexican offenses would go on your record. About 2 years ago I got several parking tickets that I never paid. They never showed up on anything here in States.

Always and I mean always get the Mexican insurance, this is the first thing they always ask to see. Once they see this, most of time they'll let you go. Otherwise, you could have some problems. So don't be an idiot and pay the extra $15-20 for it.
Remember Mexican law....Guilty until proven innocent.

It does seem odd that a driving offense would show up on a DMV report as the DMV is a state entity. I got a ticket in New Mexico a couple of years ago and it didn't show up in my DMV report here in California, why would something similiar in another country show? Perhaps it's because Baja is considered part of CA?

No, because the story is a troll.

Imagine a world where a Mexican authority could put points on your California drivers' license.

That's complete nonsense about a ticket in a foreign country affecting your CA DL. I have unpaid speeding tickets in Tennessee, Arizona, Utah and Kansas and they never even showed up.

Maybe one of you guys might try calling DMV in San Ysidro,and asking.Then report back.

Actually, many states have "compacts" with sister states regarding the exchange of DMV information, and so the procedures are in place to report driving offenses in one state to be recorded on your DMV record in another state. The exact number and nature of these inter-state compacts vary from state to state, and not all states have them with all other states. Given that, it doesn't sound totally implausable to me that Mexico (or BC or TJ) and California could reach an agreement to share information on traffic offenses. Don't know if it's true or not, but it's not too much of a reach if they realy wanted to do it.

For what it is worth, an unpaid ticket in Quebec affected my latest renewal. I think Ahora is right tho, regards Mexico. Too much of a corrupt reputation for DMV in Ca to bother you about.

There is a service for insurance companies that tracks nationwide convictions for traffic violations. You may not have a DMV exchange but that info is out there. For those that do not pay out of state fines there is an outstanding warrant for your arrest for three years after your failure to appear.

I WOULD LIKE TO AD SOMETHING ABOUT MEXICAN INSURANCE. WE HAVE HAD TONS OF PEOPLE COMPLAIN TO THE CONSULATE ABOUT GETTING THEIR CARS STOLEN IN MEXICO WHILE BEING COVERED BY OSCAR PADILLA INSURANCE ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS. SOME PEOPLE HAD NEW CARS AND WERE STOLEN AND TOTALED AND WERE AFFERED $400 BECAUSE THE INSURANCE COMPANY SAYS THAT THEY HAD TO PAY BRIBES AND SUCH. BULLSHIT. ANYWAY YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF ADDING INSURANCE FROM YOUR CURRENT AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY LIKE AAA OR STATE FARM. SOME OF THEM DO PROVIDE. BE SAFE

3 SIMPLE WAYS OF AVOIDING TROUBLE

Hello everybody, I’m Westfargos eldest brother. I’ve been making my mark in the zona for over 24 years. Westfargo has recently asked me to spread a little wisdom around. Unlike Westfargo, I don’t blame or put down the Mexicans. I too have been put in Jail, mugged, kidnapped, robbed, discrimated against. So I’ve got a book full of wisdom to spread around. I live Santa Rosa Ca., and I go to the zona about once every 6 months since moving here. However, up until 3 years ago I used to go to the zona 3 times a week for over 20 years. I know John’s rather well, and I’ll let Westfargo tell you how to win over a beauty or seduce a virgin. He is truly the closest thing there is to being an expert. However, I’m more concerned with the John’s safety. And we all make many mistakes. Westfargo, in my opinion is the King of mistakes. I tell him he likes to put himself in vulnerable positions in order to “Teach” the Mexicans a lesson. If there’s anybody in the zona that can handle that sort of life gambling situation it’s Westfargo. However, the majority of the John’s in the zona can’t afford that kind of exposure. It truly is risking your life. And I think Westfargo is so busy saying “Look how bad the Mexicans are!” He’s not accurately relaying his message of how to avoid those situations. My mission is to show you how to avoid potentially disastrous situations while confronting the locals and Rateros alike. The following is a list of all the largest mistakes John’s make in the zona. That puts your life into danger without you knowing it.

.The secret to zona safety is avoiding the criminals.

Speaking to the locals:
The zona is a melting pot for the rateros of Mexico, the zona in no way reflects Mexico as a whole. The zona does however, reflect the feelings Mexicans have towards Americans. Nearly all the guys that speak English on the streets have been deported from the US for offenses ranging from Drugs to Murder. The one’s that haven’t been deported are wanted by the cops in the US.

Speaking to Mexicans in the bars:
There’s a number of Mexicans wanting to “Help” us and give us pointers. Remember, in the zona, nothing is for free. They will offer a pointer, and while doing so they have actually convinced themselves that you owe them something. Beer, girl, wallet, etc… They’re also trying to find out if you’re an easy pray. The best way to handle this situation is to pretend to be half way interested in what he’s saying and if that doesn’t work. Totally ignore him. Never allow anybody for any reason to sit down with you and give you pointers. When they sit down with you your life can really be in danger. Just stand up, and take your beer to another table. If he follows you, tell a waiter.

Don’t do Eye-to-Eye contact:
This is how Westfargo and Roger get guys to try their luck with them. In the US Eye-to-Eye contact is reserved for “Homosexuals” or a simple “Hi”. In Mexico there’s three meanings. The first one is, “Hi friend” the second, “Help me!” The third, “I’m better than you” or it’s a challenge, most of the rateros know Eye-to-Eye contact as a sign of weakness or a challenge. And above all don’t signal for them to come over.

This should help you to avoid 90% of the rateros in the bars and on the streets. I’ve actually had the chance to see Westfargo and my other less conservative brothers just walk into the Tropical or Mill coronas and just sit down and Stair at all the locals and pick out the rateros. And go over to the Rateros and act drunk and get free drinks from them. Don’t try this in the zona. I’m 6’7 260 lbs, Westfargo’s other two brothers are 6’ 5”, and 6’ 6” respectably, in a country where most tall men are half our size, it must truly be a frightening experience for the good and bad Mexicans alike.

Gentlemen -
Eastfargo

Yeah, the Department of Justice lets the Border Service deport murderers all the time...

Eastfargo, Thank you for the advice i will pass on to my amigos.
SB