Brothers,
Any of you bros got the basics on HC? Price, security, availability of rooms during week and weekend, etc. !Muchisimas gracias!

All night rooms at Hotel Coahuila are 22 bucks. Security is excellent as far as unwanted people roaming the halls, which has been a huge concern at Hotel Leyva where someone I know was robbed at gunpoint in his room. Lack of a key for your room can be be a problem as far as possessions are concerned, however, so either don't bring anything of value (camera, cellphone, etc.) or have one of the jizz cleaners walk you in and out each time. I'd recommend the former.

All night room availability can be tricky, and likely won't be available on Saturday at all, though one night a long time ago I did get one as it was a renewal from the night before and I did it at 11 AM.

The wing of the hotel they use for all-night rooms gets more than its share of music booming through the floor from the bar, and if you're not an exceedingly heavy sleeper it will be difficult to hit rem sleep befor ethe bar closes sometime after 6 AM. I usually solve the problem with heavy doses of tequila, but realize that ain't for everybody.

The SCHWEET rooms to get if you actually wanna sleep are the rooms in the 500's upstairs, but they generally don't wanna give these out all night unless it's very late and things are slow. It's MUCH quieter up there.

As far as getting rooms for the night in TJ, location, location, location is EVERYTHING, as they say, and if your mission is the chicas of Adelitas, this place is the MUST stay as far as Zona hotels. AB girls are extremely YMMV as far as going to offsite hotels. Some will simply not do it at any price, even when their shift is over. But having your own room pays for itself if you take even one chica up for more than an hour.

Have fun.

22 bucks a night...no key available, no rooms available on Friday and Saturday nights, plenty available during the week...security is "zero"...but the staff have always been "do right" by me. I've never stayed the whole night cause the place is just too damn noisy...from the music reverberating through the building from AB....however you can catch a quick snooze there...and the showers can be quite good if the shower heads are functioning properly. I wonder if the room by the shrine still has the broken toilet seat. It was literally disconnected from the toilet for about a year...the way you found out about it was that the chica would sit on it...and then it would slide off the toilet bowl...usually with the chica on it...

KRICO

Brothers K and P,
I am deeply and eternally indebted to you both. Think this might be the move for me--either of you know if there are any troubles there bringing street girls in? Other than from the SG end, of course ('please, mi amor, this place actually has a SHOWER!' 'NO! It's La Ribera or nothing!')

As for noise, this will be no problem, as I plan to be drinking heavily. And anyway sleep ain't on the agenda during this trip!

ALWAYS get a room for the night if you can, even if you're not staying for the night.

Several times, I've taken a chica upstairs for a quicky and ended up with an hour-plus girlfriend type session. Literally "More bang for your buck!"

The contrary is true also. I've really hit it off with a girl and just hit my stride when the knock comes at the door. That BLOWS!

There are other advantages also. You can make sure that you have clean sheets and towels BEFORE you get the girl to the room. You can keep bottled water, shaving kit and a change of clothes in the room so you don't go home smelling like smoke and cheap perfume.

Unless you're just out for your lunch break, there is really no reason to do the $10 per 30 min thing.

Porker
Do you think a $5 teep to the desk clerk would help in obtaining one of those SCHWEET ROOMS upstairs so that sleep may be an option too or would this be a waste of time?
Taxibob

Funny story, first time I got a room all night at HC, I left it locked. I hook up downstairs and get to the room, ask to have it opened and they couldn't find the key. So, here we are, standing around for about 15 minutes while they are looking for a key to open up my room and finally one of the little room cleaners, opens up the window and crawls in.
The second and subsequent times I come back to the room, I do the same. I put on a really good show for the chicas watching me crawl through the window and struggle to get my ass through the window to open up the room. Maybe I should have given the chica a boost and she could have crawled through the window, that would have done wonders for the quality of my session.

Now, I get the room all night and just keep the door unlocked, nothing I keep in the room is indespensible.

Rock

I only have one thing to add to the other comments, which are excellent. Make sure the desk clerk writes down your name on the room list when you pay him. If he doesn't, when the next shift starts, the new desk clerk has no way of knowing that the room is yours and he will rent it to someone else.

On this last trip, I had rented the room around 1 p.m. and used it during the afternoon. Went out for dinner and back to my "real" hotel room at the Zaragoza. When I returned with a lady around 11 p.m., the room was trashed, coffee cups everywhere, towels thrown around, cigarette butts on the floor. Hell, there was even a tip on the table. The chica and I were grossed out. The night desk clerk didn't know it was my room because the day desk clerk hadn't said anything to him and hadn't written down my name even though I told him to. Of course, they supplied a "jizz cleaner" (Porker's colorful term) to clean up the room, but it took some of the romance away watching the guy pick up used condoms. They run a pretty loose ship so stay on your toes.

Good point, Matiz...and important. The day guy used to take my name down ( just the first name...and yeah, it can be phony...just remember who you are...)and then he quite doin' it...cause he "knew" me... the night guy knew me also...but he didn't know the room had been rented to me, cause my name wasn't on it (nobody's name was on it...) It took awhile to get it all ironed out...
KRICO

A couple of additional thoughts. I've had problems getting a room for the night on Thursdays after 7:30 pm or so (like yesterday). Also, the last three times I've had all night rooms they gave me the key the first time I came upstairs after locking the door. I just kept the key for the rest of the night and saved the hassel (they have them on numbered tags now so I could just show the tag as I walked by the desk).

TB, kissing the ass of the desk guy at Hotel Coahuila if you plan to stay there all night is an excellent idea in ANY way you can figure out how to do it. I am not sure if bribing the guy will work, but it's worth a shot. The times when I have been able to get an upstairs room is when I have asked after 2 AM and had a girl in tow at the time.

An excellent point re: the name being associated with a specific room. The night guy gave my room away one night as well while I was out for X period of time. I inquired about it and they ended up giving me the room next door because it was already clean.

As Minuteman mentioned, room availability is not always certain, though when I've been told 'no' on a weeknight, I have always been encouraged to try back in a couple hours. The earlier you arrive, the better, and if you're there before 1 PM, you may even luck out and get a room for Friday night. And as I mentioned above, they are pretty liberal after 3 AM if it's relatively slow.

How some of y'all are getting keys is fascinating to me. I have ALWAYS been flatly refused. What's the secret? Like Rock, I just leave the door unlocked -- I doubt I'd FIT through the window! If a light-fingered jizz cleaner fancies my deodorant or my dirty Under-oos, I guess I'm SOL!

I missed the question re: street girls being allowed into Hotel Coahuila. I really don't know, never tried or know anyone that has tried. But I have a strong suspicion that they will NOT be allowed to join you in your room in the hotel, just as visitors are not generally allowed in the CHICA'S rooms at the hotel. Krico commented on the lack of security st Hotel Coahuila, but you can be pretty much assured that the people in that hotel are working there and known in some capacity.

The only thing I have ever heard of a non-AB girl going to Hotel Coahuila was the great story Jose Cuervo told about importing his Penthouse dancer honey there because he didn't know any other hotels at the time! I guess since he paid his 10 bucks they were cool with it... This was more than 2 years ago, though.

Hmmm. Well, I've brought several street girls back to the Hotel Coahuilla. I never thought of it as a problem with the hotel; more of a problem with the SGs, who sometimes want to go to their own Hotel El Dumpo. I troll for them in the alley and bring them in the back door and up the stairs to the room. I just make sure the guy sitting at the back door knows me when I go out, so he'll let me back in. After all, you've already paid for the room. Why should the hotel care where you get your ladies?

I'm glad I was wrong in this instance, Matiz.

Hey Porker,

Come to think of it I got a key at Hotel Coahuila once. Got the room for the whole night etc...when I came back for the second session, instead of having one of the cleaner guys open the door for me he just handed me the key and I kept it the rest of the night. The next morning when I gave it back to the desk guy he didn't say anything....so apparently it was nothing too out of the ordinary.

My experiences with the keys were the same as Redongdo's, except it was the first trip back upstairs - I think they just didn't want to break someone loose to go unlock the door.

Re: The desk clerks . . . and the cleaning guys: It helps to get to know them. The night clerk, Edgar, has always been very helpful. The same is true for Rafael, who sometimes acts as substitute desk clerk and doorman frequently. Also, Jaime, whose usual job is that of cleaning. The other two cleaning guys I know, Carlos and the one who says his name is "Beefis," have been excellent at delivering and retrieving messages between my harem and me.

I have not showered these guys with cash or gifts--just been friendly with them.

One time, I arrived shortly after noon on a weekday and was told by the day clerk, the skinny, little asshole--who is afraid of eye contact--that no rooms were available. Carlos was standing there and said, "Come, Memo (They all call me, 'Memo.'), I have a room for you!" He took me to the back and hit one of the rooms like a white tornado. He was happy to accept a dollar for his extra effort.

The key is: Be nice. They may even let you keep the door key.

Hey Pop!

I just looked up "memo" and see that it means "handsome and with much wisdom" they must really like you a lot up there. They often refer to me as "culo" which I believe means "not as handsome or wise as Pop, but still a nice guy".

Edgar is the guy with the glasses right? I've had the best luck with him, even as aforementioned once helping me get a refund from a not so honest chica. Who's the cleaning guy that has real short hair and is kinda cross-eyed? He seems to recognize me pretty often too.

Yeah, Edgar is the night guy (except Mondays). He mumbles his Spanish and may not seem too friendly, but just talk to him a bit and he'll prove to be a valuable connection.

The cross-eyed guy is "Beefis." Greet him by name and watch how he lights up. Saw him last night, as a matter of fact, and he once again delivered a gift for me.

Carlos has a mustache and is the more heavy-set of the crew. Address him as Carlito, and he will probably put out his hand for a shake.

Pops after dealing with him monday i have to agree that the skinny young day desk guy who avoids eye contact seems like an asshole who doesn't like to be bothered with details like writing your name down in the book.I was however able to get an upstairs room after some confusing talk about 11 am.These rooms are much quieter but they put me in 502 saying i will need to move to 522 in an hour and a half.An hour and a half later i showed up with my clothes from cascadas and they still had not cleaned 522,another hour later i checked back and asked him if he wanted me to move rooms yet and he said yes~the room still had a condom on the floor and toilet paper everywhere.I finally checked back another hour later and it was cleaned and ready.Every time i talked to this little guy he wouldn't look at me which sorta disturbed me some.They are really on the ball there.I did notice they were changing out a bunch of mattresses on that floor early monday afternoon.
Taxibob

Brothers,
Just back from T'giving trip--thanks much for all the info on Coahuila, stayed there from Tues. through to weekend and everything was fine. Now need about two weeks of sleep to recover from the trip, but that ain't gonna happen. Hoped I would have time to get to a cyber-cafe to set up meetings with a few of my brethren, but never got a moment of free time away from the bars and several absorbing adventures outside the clubs.

I usually go during the week during the day. Do about 2 chicas each time.( 2x10 +2 in tips) It seems like a good idea to get a room after reading others thoughts. My question is how do the chicas feel about you having your own room.(not so much sg but adelitas girls) Do they freak? Or is it no big deal? Do you tell them ahead of time? Do they get some sort of stipend from the hotel that they would lose? I also like the idea of cutting out the room purchase while I stand there with an obvious chubby. Thanks for the info.

I have never had a problem taking an AB chica to the AB hotel when I had my own room. The problem comes when you try to take a SG to your own room, they much prefer that you use their hotel.

In 4 weeks I'll be going in on a Sat. to AB. What are my chances of getting a room in HC? Any alternative recommendations?

Any new info on HC. I am making my first trip to TJ in a week or so and from what I can see I will be better off getting a room for a nite. I plan on arriving sometime around noon or 1pm on a wed or thurs. Do the clerks speak english? I dont speak any spanish. Any info would be appreciated

Most of the clerks speak limited English. they have designated some rooms for the night that are in a quieter part of the hotel, but the music booms all night long. These are in the 100 series, like 101, 110, etc. They are bigger and the hall noise is less, but you can't escape the music. Better to get a room in the 500 series, even though the hall noise is worse. Ear plugs will block out hall noise, but when the base is shaking your bed, there is not much you can do.

I prefer a room at Cascadas, but if you're after AB chicas, Cascadas is a problem.

They speak enough English to take care of business. If you can, take the advice above and get one of the 500 series rooms - I've only had one one time, but I haven't thought to specifically ask for one.

If they give you the 100 series, most of the noise comes from La Valentia, not AB. Valentina closes at 3:00 a.m. some week nites so its quiet after that.

Do not accept Rm. 101. They put a deadbolt type lock on the door so you can't lock it, even from the inside, without a key. Naturally, they don't have a key (or so they say). I've never had any problems staying there, but my last trip they gave me 101 and one of the ladies was quite nervous about not being able to lock the door once we were inside.

Where is the 500 series? I just bought un cuarto por la noche en Coahuila in the 1000 series. (my door locks). It looks like there is a 200 series in the floor above mine, but I haven't seen any 500's (I'm thinking asking for the 500 series rooms is a 'snipe hunting'-type prank on less-experienced mongers ;)

P.S. Philly is going to smack the Raptors!!! it's 85-84 Philly right now Gotta find a bar with a TV quick!!!

No snipe there. But greasing the right palm to get access to the elevator is the key to getting a room in the 500 series.

Finally another 76er fan! Iverson busted out for 54 tonight, a Sixer record.

-Superman-

Oops, I meant to say 100 series, not 1000 series in my previous post. I'll have to investigate getting up to 500. There is no way in hell I could have slept in that room tonight.

Hell yeah, Iverson is a pimp! He picked that team up and dragged them to victory (scoring 19 of the last 20 points!?!?!?!). I still wish we had Ratliff though...

76ers, the 500 series is above the reception desk area, not much different than the others except just a little bit quieter.
LLFO
S

Me too, but they would not have gone anywhere this year if they had not made the trade. Ratliff was hurt and out for the year, and that would have left the Sixers with Geiger as the starting center. Mutumbo is a much better rebounder as well.

-Superman-

Ya'll Philly fans need to get REAL. NOBODY in the east can beat the two best Western Conference teams, LA and San Antonio. Either of those teams will SWEEP Philly's lightweight ass. Maybe it'd go five...

I might LIVE in Philly, but it's a Westcoast thang! Two in a row for the REAL Superman (#34) and the Lakers!

Need some help for almost a "Newbie" (I was in TJ two years ago just for one night) How much is for
the room at HC for the whole night? still $22?
thanks

It's been $35 for the past few months

Hotel C will do ANYTHING to save a buck! Check out the rubbers they're hading out these days (the ones in the white elongated packages) They have an expiration date of 1 Mar 2002!

Now, I don't know what happens when a rubber expires. They sure held up well enough through my very extensive stress test this week! I'm sure that some stateside health department had to get them off their inventory so Hotel C bought them for pennies on the dollar.

The ones in the blue foil wrappers expire in 2005.

I checked into the AB Whoremitory for the first time for 2 nights. Initially I asked for an upper floor room with a window to the boulevard...less bar noise, outside air, and a view of the 10 ring circus below. I was persuaded to take a room that they had no key for...I had no belongings with me of any value beyond my Viagra supply so I could live with larceny. My one concern was that I did not want to put up in a room that was getting regular short-term action without it being thoroughly cleaned before I moved in...didn't want a bed that some talchero had just swept the slime off of and indicating other assorted signs of AB aftermath.

Sure enough the door to my assigned room was locked...as I jiggled it aggressively I learned why. Because it was at that very time being used for a short time session. If anyone here has recently suffered what they thought was a 7 minute intrusion from hotel staff at Coahuila at 10:30 on a recent weeknight, that was me trying to enter what I thought was a freshly prepared TLN room awaiting 37 hours of my patronage. The couple inside could not have been pleased! Well, perhaps the chica was happy about it.

Back at the desk I refused the offer to wait until the happy couple finished and instead, viewed a different room across the hall without the window to the outside. It was completely filthy...used sheets, used condom on the wet bathroom floor, et al. Back to the desk for another try.

Now they've got me in the 1st floor back whoremitory close by the religious shrine...wide halls and most rooms serving as domicile for some of our most beloved AB girlfriends. This room was also pretty dirty but I gave up looking for something better...I would have to be the room cleaner. This room came with no pillows, dirty sheets, no garbage pail but plenty of garbage (exactly HOW MANY of those Rosa Venus soaps and discarded wrappers have to accumulate on the floor before a room cleaner discards them?). Fortunately there was an unattended open linen closet around the bend and I helped myself to 3 days worth of still warm freshly laundered sheets (and then some), 2 of the dryest pillows I could find, and a fresh blanket. The talchero brought me some pillow cases and I was in business after about 45 minutes of gathering these basics, some meager tidying up and preparation of a clean bed.

I also came to realize during my stay that the volume of bar music audible in this room (106) was not much diminished from what one would expect if their overnight bed was planted square in the middle of AB's main dance floor. The room would share the bar's soundtrack at equal intensity for aproximately 19 hours each day...with a 5 hour window of quiet between 5-10AM. If 5 hours of sleep are enough for you and you choose precisely those 5, you are in business...no problema!

So you pay the highest price in the zona at $35, if you drive you will have to pay more for parking in nearby lots, you get a filthy noisy room with no TV that you will have to sanitize yourself. On the plus side the toilet flushes, the shower kicks ass, and the towels have moisture absorbing properties. And there is the prospect of unlimited short-time no-knock sessions.

Yes, I loved it...seriously! I won't often repeat the experience, but it was a nice time occupying the same space that the AB girls live and work in. As adventurous as Cascadas can be, it is as much a TLN hostelry as it is a short time party venue and hooker residence. Coahuila on the other hand is still mainly dedicated to all that high volume action coming up the stairs from the establishment below along with serving as housing for the chicas. I really do not know a large number of AB chicas these days...yet it seemed that each one who emerged from the rooms in my section of the hotel was someone I had some history with, or was otherwise acquainted with. At one point even Smith came by...wearing a dress with untied "flaps" that WOULD cover her breasts if only they WERE tied. Arguably the hottest girl ever in the zona walking around the hotel corriders with her tits completely hanging out (she would take that look down to the bar later that night)! When I stay at Cascadas on rare occasions, I rarely encounter a chica whom I have known.

On my second and last night in the hotel, I made a point of getting to sleep by 3:30AM because I had arranged for Candie to come to my room at 11am and solve my morning wood...the plan was to share a bed for an hour and then have lunch together before she would assume her accustomed spot at AB in the early PM. As I entered my room at 3AM, the blinds of the room immediately across the hall parted and I was being peered at and summoned by the pretty face of none other than a nasty but adorable young brat who is fairly new to AB, and who also happened to be the last AB chica I had a session with (a few weeks ago but I don't remember her name). She isn't exactly my dream girl but she had fulfilled one of my fantasy niches (the bratty babysitter next door with the heart of a slut...fantasy scenario no. 137). What's more, her roommate and inseparable amiga is also high on my list...I want to complete the set.

As brat no. 1 beckoned me through the window to the hall, brat no. 2 opened the door to the room...there in her nightgowned gang bang blonde cheerleader glory, she emitted a purry "hola mi amor" greeting from the threshhold. A party was indicated. Any normal bastard would have invited them both over and sent a talchero to the market for a bottle and a platter. But I am not just any bastard...I had committed myself to an 11am encounter with Candie, was already severely sleep deprived on account of AB music exploding into my room the morning before...and so I was ruled by a tight sphincter and...I turned my brats away! I woke up fully rested at 10:45 (a sleeping pill got me through the opening blasts of music), and performed some routine hygeine for Candie's sake. 11AM came and went....noon came and went - no Candie!!

No brats in sight. Check-out time. :-(

Coahuila is a negligently managed over-priced dump that no AB chica admirer should miss an opportunity to sample at least once.

A PERFECT example of planning 8 hours in the future is just toooooooo iffy and you always have to sieze the moment, ala your 2 nubile neighbors.

Hey, I'm planning on getting a room all night at the AB hotel this week. If you stay there all night, is it pretty easy to pick up stragglers for impromptu short-times, TLNs?

There were several opportunities during the 2 days that I posted about. The chicas were walking around and marketing it seemed to me, more aggressively than they do in the bar. However, with my limited experience at this hotel, I can't say if that is the exception or the rule.

You probably figured it out, but just in case, fyi, the music noise in that section actually comes mostly from Valentia, not AB.

Earplugs are always a good item to pack for a night in H.C.

Erip,

Room 106, The_senator's favorite room. If you found any Dial soap in there, it's his.

I'm packing for Colombia and reading your post makes me nostalgic for all the fun that the Hotel
Coahuila can provide. Nothing like entering a room, seeing a dirty floor, used sheets, unidentified muck in the bath, and still considering yourself lucky because you haven't slipped on a used condom.

The only thing worse than renting a room at the Coahuila is not renting a room there. What a trip.

Hah, another Candie fan.

Bill,

Room 106 is by far the worst room at Hotel Coahuila! I hate it. The 500 series is where I like to be.

See ya there next Thursday, June 20th! ;-)

The Senator

Has anyone checked out their new Jacuzzi room?

I heard from a chica that they want $70 for three hours. A little too steep for me.

-snapper-

Is this true? Does Adelitas have a jacuzzi rrrrooooommmmm arrriiba ahora?

$70 is pretty steep, I agree, but for those times when you won't be staying overnight, it sounds like a pretty sweet deal......

It is in fact true, Adelitas not only has a jacuzzi room, but lo and behold, they have two!!.

The rate is $50 for three hours. I did not ask for overnight rates. The room I have used twice now is room 324 on the top floor. It overlooks the street in front of Adelitas and you can actually see San Ysidro from it.

The room has lights that have dimmer switches to set the mood and is nicer than the regular rooms. The jacuzzi fits two large people nicely and the pump is strong.

I had to laugh when I realized that they put the jacuzzi in backwards. You have to step into the tub in order to reach the faucet controls as they cannot be reached from where you would stand.

They give you "espuma" bottles and it makes "que rico" bubbles that the chicas seem to love.

There is a telephone in the room and you can call down for refreshments, a lighter, or food from Monte Carlo.

On the back of the door, they have five rules for using the jacuzzi (but they left out number 3!)

Be careful to explain to the chica ahead of time that you want to take a jacuzzi with her because the girls with hair extensions will not want to get their hair wet.

Having the room for three hours also means that you have to be careful about how long you keep the chica there, because they might expect you to pay them their rate per hour and happily hang out in the tub with you while you are racking up a bill.

One chica quoted me $360 which took her out of the running. I have found that it is better to go at a slow time and the chicas are much more willing to go relax in a tub than when they are making money potentially.

The jacuzzi suites as Cascades are much bigger, and better in all respects, not to mention the $65 rate if for all night, but for short time bombing runs, the three hour Adelitas Jacuzzi is a pretty good deal (at least for me.)

I will break it down for those that haven't thought about it too much....

0-15 min: Preparation, filling up tub, etc
15-45 min: Cocktails while choosing in bar
45-75 min: Jacuzzi/play
75-90 min: Order Room Service
90-120 min: Massage/sexo
120-150 min: Sexo/massage
150-180 min: Shower and Dress

I definitely like this new addition to this
"hotel". No paying bar fines, no problems, nothing.

Well, you do have to walk up three flights of stairs, but is good for ya.....!

Hey Futbolito,

Thanks for the info. You know I imagine that you also have to tell the chica before going up that if she expects to make $360 USD she can expect sexo at least two to three times during the three hours (or however long you're up there). If she doesn't want to put-out, then on to the next chica.

Harry

I have yet to stay here but want to try this week.
anyone spend the night here lately?

I am told they now give a key but it opens all doors and that nothing is safe in my room.

I have a backpack, change of clothes, stereo and cds which if stolen would make for a very expensive room.

I have never had any problems at Cascadas or Leyva with the same things.

What are your opinions about my risks at AB?

A basic question: what is the scoop on the SGs, which rooms do they use at this hotel?

It's been 5 years since the last post. I'm a newbie. Does Hotel Coahuila still offer rooms for the whole night? If so, how much should I pay for a quiet, secure room on the top floor with a key (for that specific room only) and no "20 minute door knock guys"? No jacuzzi necessary. I couldn't find a phone number for them anywhere, how do you even make a reservation?

Reservations?

Um, ah, I wouldn't count on it being any good, even if you made one. Just walk in and ask for a room.

They do have a website: http://hotelcascadas.com/

Would I run into problems trying to pull girls from Adelita, Chicago or Hong Kong to this hotel? I read they only like stay in the rooms above their bar?

You put an link up to Cascadas and he is asking about Hotel Coahuila? It makes a difference as the AB chicas are not permitted to go there. Although some do....they cannot get away with it on their shift....or if they can it is plenty of work and deception to pull it off.

This number may work. 664-685-8890

Oops. Sorry about that.

You are correct. Basically only girls from Adelitas use that hotel; the Chicago Club uses the Jalos, and Hong Kong uses Cascadas.

Last time I heard they did the overnight rooms, but I think it varies depending upon how busy they are. A yesr or so back they were $35 US a night.

For only 35 per night I am very suspicious... what's the catch?

Which hotel is the most secure? (Individual key to each room, security guards, actual working locks, small safe for valuables).

Do any of them have functioning bathrooms with running water (toilet, shower) or do I need to get another hotel in addition?

At this price I guess I can't expect wireless internet.

$35 is not a cheap price for that place, and you will catch wireless internet in there...I think they have it in their office, but mongers have been known to post while in the bar....so I would think you could from the hotel as well.

I've stayed there a couple of times. Its just like any of the other rooms the girls take you up to from the bar. Don't be an early sleeper and early riser. Alot of clacking heels in the hallway in the morning when the girls finish their shift. Once they know you are up there and know what you are looking for, expect a few knocks on the door with girls trying to hook up with you. They will ask some stupid question like needing to borrow $1 or soap or they knocked on the wrong door, just to see how you react to them. Towels are about the size of dish washing wipe, so bring your own. Take care of the guys at the front desk and they will take care of you. TV has a couple of porn stations and some other channels. Watched a world cup game back when it was in south korea with a girl when i stayed in hotel above tropical bar. Just remember you are in Coahuila, so other than the hours of 7 am to 11 am, it is a noisy place.

I'm trying to figure out of I need an actual hotel in addition. Out of the three, Coahuila, Jalos, or Cascadas, which is best? My minimum requirements are electricity, running water, functioning bathroom, a large bed, and a door that locks with a unique key. Do any of the aforementioned "hotels" meet these requirements?

>For only 35 per night I am very suspicious... >what's the catch?

For me, it's the noise.

>Which hotel is the most secure? (Individual key >to each room, security guards, actual working >locks, small safe for valuables).

No hotel IN La Zona meets these requirements. Sometimes you don't even get a key to your OWN room - and have to get a worker to let you in to your room (and ALL the workers seem to have keys!)

In my experience NONE of these have in room (or even available) safe / lock boxes.

If you want something like that may I suggest the Ticuan? Fairly new place, full on four star type hotel, a few minutes from La Zona by Las Pulgas, and a few months ago only $50 US a night (I have heard it's gone up a little in the last couple of months). It is complete with indoor parking, elevators, in room safe, electronic key, flat screen TV, etc.

>Do any of them have functioning bathrooms with >running water (toilet, shower) or do I need to >get another hotel in addition?

They all do. Hot water is sometimes in short supply, or not all that hot.

>At this price I guess I can't expect wireless >internet.

Ticuan also has on site computers off the lobby you can use for free. I have never tried wireless at any of them.

>I'm trying to figure out of I need an actual >hotel in addition. Out of the three, Coahuila, >Jalos, or Cascadas, which is best? My minimum >requirements are electricity, running water, >functioning bathroom, a large bed, and a door >that locks with a unique key. Do any of the >aforementioned "hotels" meet these requirements?

Except for the 'door that locks with a unique key' all three match your criteria.

If I stay IN La Zona I usually prefer the Leyva, which is NEXT door to the Chicago Club. It is around mid $20 something a night, plus $2 key deposit. Still noisy as heck. The last couple of years I have been using the Ticuan.

At $50 US a night, they have no problems if I bring a girl back, free snacks in the lobby, an elevator, HEAT and A/C, plus all the stuff you expect at a real hotel. (BTW, most places IN La Zona are lacking in the A/C and Heat departments.)

My only concern about Ticuan is how difficult it would be to pull girls from Adelita, Chicago, or Hong Kong. Are any of the girls who work those bars willing to leave Zona Norte to go to their client's hotel? Would they charge more for their services or claim that the bar management forbids them from leaving the Zona Norte?

Most of my friends have had good luck taking Zona chicas to Ticuan.

If you have a girl that lives in a Zona Hotel then Ticuan is very much to your advantage. Over the years I have know many guys that have had TLN's and the chica would say..."oh, I have to go to my room for my phone" and never return. The farther you can get the chica away from the Zona the more control you have.

I have had girls from all three of the bars you mentioned, BUT, a couple of cautions:

The girl from Adelitas was one that had been 'out' with me before.

The girl from Chicago had to 'sneak out' and met me in a cab around the corner.

The most recent girl from Hong Kong got in a shouting match with her 'boss' in the club, threatened to quit, and finally was allowed to leave.

In NO case did I pay a 'bar fine'.

In ALL cases I took the girl with me for the entire night, and in at least one case the girl knew I was buying dinner at a nice place. In the case of the girl from Hong Kong she knew I was taking her bar hopping with me and that I was willing to buy her that swill that they call Tequila in La Zona bars.

I am with Jay. It is VERY difficult to get a chica that you are picking up in the Zona to follow you to a hotel away from ZN or Rev. In my experience the best is to establish a "relationship", do her in her hotel or close by a few times and than get her to "escort" for you. This can be done totally independent from her management.
If you are there just one night and want a TLN, nothing beats Cascadas. They never mind who you bring, except once in a while they cause trouble if you bring one after another (V wont quit ).
BTW, I prefer Lucerna or Marriott for TLN. Waking up there is not as dreadful as in the ZN or around Rev.

Lucerna in Tijuana is not chica friendly.

Robertx??? Am I seeing right? THE Robertx, TJ posting legend of yesteryear?

Robertx, are you still mongering? I thought you gave it up for serial monogamy with chicalettes many many years ago. At any rate, you are posting here like maybe you've been away for awhile, because it is not in any way difficult to get a chica in this day and age to travel outside the zona to a nice hotel with you. That includes even SGs whose Padrotes didn't like them to leave the local blocks in years past.

The issue is always the salida...the bar fine which was discussed here. The more onerous of bar fines in this day and age are the product of dudes starting to regularly export chicas out of the zona. So you have to play the game with the BGs to beat the salida. All that takes is a phone number and an advance plan - or alternatively you wait until her shift is over. Unless she's running back home to bebe, she's going to accept your offer to go to PA, Ticuan, Grand or wherever.

Personally I use the Ticuan and have since it opened 2 years ago. Before that for years I stayed at the modest Villa de Zaragoza. Never have a problem with chicas agreeing to go back to these hotels for an hour or 3 days, just as long as I don't take them mid-shift sin salida. I'm talking NEVER - not once has a chica turned me down to leave La Coahuila. Well, maybe 2 SGs, but they were more than tempted/interested, but I didn't press the issue - really just feeling them out for future planning. I concluded that both could be pretty easily persuaded when I was ready to press the invitation. Now both are BGs and push me to take them away.

Staying in the zona hotels is an enjoyable camping experience now and then, but the chicas so much prefer the comforts of the better hotels outside the zona. The problem becomes getting them to leave your hotel. Do not book your chicas too close together - and was that old school wisdom ever brought home to me on my last trip to TJ.

It is true though that years ago many chicas were less eager to remove themselves from the familiarity and security of sticking to the hotels connected to their workplaces, and a smaller percentage of mongers were staying overnight in the nice hotels. The bad economy made the chicas more open minded and not likely to turn down a good offer to remove themselves from the zona, and now it is so common they are just hooked on getting the hell away from Coahuila whenever they can.

Granted, if you want to be a strictly spontaneous fucker, you will often be limited to the attached hotel unless you are OK with bar fines. Ironically in that regard, SGs who were once the most difficult chicas to export, become the easiest to export on short notice since they aren't part of the salida economy.

How much are the bar fines at Adelita? Chicago? Hong Kong?

Negotiable like all things in La Coahuila. Short term shouldn't ever be more than the club is losing by your taking your business away from the attached hotel. More often you take a chica away for extended time or TLN. Expect AB & CC to try to hit you up for $70-100. HK is all over the place and I've heard of them demanding as much as $150, depending on the chica. They price the chicas like "to go" restaurant items - the more of a delicacy the chica is, the higher the take out price.

Keep in mind that the chica usually gets a piece of this but she will deny it. So if you have made her a reasonable to generous offer for long term, she'll work behind the scenes to reduce the salida if you show strong resistance to paying it. She may tell the manager that she'll waive her percentage to score the larger payday, or even pay the whole thing behind the scenes. Sometimes the chicas are smart about these things when the money isn't rolling in from every direction - sometimes they're not.

Hypothetical worst case scenario for a total newbie like me that doesn't speak Spanish:

Getting to know her in the bar: $30 (her drinks cost $10 each)
Bar fine: $100
Chica: $200 (2 hours at $100 per hour)
Police bribe: $100 (for when they accuse me of selling drugs)
Taxi: $10
Hotel Ticuan: $50
Total: $490

It doesn't seem worth it. I could save money by going back to the Del Rey in San Jose, Costa Rica and not have to pay taxis, exorbitant bar fines and police bribes. I haven't been to Tijuana but from what I've read it sounds like a far worse experience than the Del Rey.

That is as you said, a worst case scenario. Let's recalculate using a better case scenario:

Bar fine: 0 (start your hunt late in the shift and take her out when she's off shift - or even b better if you're down for at least 2 days and nights, meet a special chica on Day 1 and setup an appointment with her at your Hotel for Day 2...she may be willing to just skip going to the bar if you offer extended session payday, or meet you prior to her shift, or just go in late to work after she's finished satisfying you - this is the best way to beat the bar fine...if she speaks some English and you're up for it, invite her on a real date for the following day including a nice meal out and perhaps some nightlife);

Chica $2,000 pesos = $150 - 160 (mas o menos) for the ENTIRE NIGHT. If you want her out after 2-3 hours, offer $150 or 1500 pesos which would come to roughly $110...so for sake of calculation, let's say $150;

Police Bribe: LOL! Just picked that one up on the 2nd read. Not going to happen = 0;

Hotel Ticuan: Now roughly $62-64 on weekend nights - goes up and down with the peso. Weekdays are about $10 less (always 650 pesos);
3 drinks for her including tip: $27

Taxi to Ticuan: $3

Total for 2 hours = $242.

Slightly less good case scenario (she's hip to losing money by accepting pesos and insists on $200 for toda la noche...add $50 for $292 total - 6-8 hour minimum in the hotel with the chica. Order breakfast in bed via Ticuan room service if she was a fine companion ($18) = 310.

BGs are smarter about peso transactions these days so don't count on the local currency discount. SGs are always stupid about pesos and sometimes accept less money in pesos than they would demand in dollars (e.g. accept 300 pesos for session with BBBJ which equals $23-24US, but turn down $25!).

Even though the BGs are hip to the peso transactions, you can still expect all but the brightest and best looking to accept 600 pesos for a short term session. The same girl will probably not take 1500-2000 pesos for an all nighter, but will take $150-200.

The chicas in the highest demand will probably insist on $300 or more for an all nighter with a newbie. But speaking spanish and developing rapport prior to leaving the bar knocks down the price. Chicas is less demand will still counter for $300, but will most likely agree to $200 max for all nighter, or $150 for 2 hours.

Arranging 2 hour sessions is a good technique when you leave the zona since there is nobody knocking on the door. If the chica likes you and is comfortable in your arms and the comfortable rooms, she often won't make any move to leave after 2 hours, and you could end up with an all nighter whether you want it or not.

But you know, I agree with the TJ defamers on this site when they say that traveling to TJ from any distance purely to engage hookers makes no sense from the perspective of economics or service quality, especially if you don't know your way around and don't speak Spanish.

So although you over calculated your realistic costs initially, if you are getting into an airplane to travel to TJ, you are better off buying a ticket to a different destination with lower prices and a higher level of service by default. I haven't been there, but I doubt Costa Rica is the answer either.

Price is now 45 dollars plus key deposit (5 bucks), was the same price on Sunday night as Saturdays. Price of a GFE all nighter with a giant titted Adelitas pro who was excited I had my own room in the middle of a Tijuana Hailstorm? Life was good in TJ this past weekend...

3rd floor room had a TV with 3 channels, multiple US espns, porn and CCTV feed of Adelitas floorshow, which amazingly goes 24x7 on weekends.

Plentiful hot water, will give you towels and sheets on request. Thumping bass noise still makes it impossible to sleep.

Oh, and re: barfines, "salidas", my chica was hellbent on staying until 8 AM to avoid questions of her 7 ficha minimum...

I didn't ask for details.

Boots on the ground, 811 pesos, 50 pesos key deposit.