2000/11 Tahoe - Lurker Report

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By Tahoe on Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 11:52 am:  Edit

I have been a lurker on the Tijuana-related boards for some 4 years. I haven’t posted any experiences because I only get down there once a year and haven’t felt that I had much to contribute. However, the guilt finally got to me and I figured I should at least contribute what I can.

Although I am a well-educated professional who is married with children, I have basically been a sexual degenerate since I was a teenager. By a degenerate, I mean fixated on the seedier aspects of sex. My first sexual experience was with a prostitute when I was still in high school and I visited the whorehouses around Reno and Carson City on a number of occasions before graduating from college. I have also been an aficionado of the strip club scene since high school when I used to use a fake id to frequent topless and bottomless bars. As I got older, I pretty much lost interest in prostitutes but became a connoisseur of sensual massages. Fortunately, I never knew about Tijuana until about 5 years ago or my fixation with sex could have easily gotten out of control at a time when I didn’t have a wife and family to keep me somewhat grounded.

About 5 years ago, a friend and I started going to Tijuana on an annual basis for reasons that aren’t really important. The first year we stumbled almost by accident on the Revolution Ave. scene without knowing anything about it. We cruised most of the usual bars along Revolution and thought the whole scene was pretty cool, at least compared to lame strip club scene in San Diego. Feeling up strippers and getting full contact lap dances was fairly heady stuff for two married guys who had previously gotten excited by just feeling some public stubble while sliding a dollar tip into a stripper’s g-string.

After returning home from that first trip, I bought my first home computer and eventually discovered aspt and other TJ web sites which opened my eyes to all the possibilities in Tijuana. It also made me aware of the whole ts subculture that exists in many, if not most, of the Revolution clubs. Knowing that helped explain a lot of the things that we had seen on our first trip. When my friend and I returned the next year, we were much better prepared but were still extremely apprehensive about the Zona Roja scene. We pretty much stayed on Revolution and eventually became friendly with one of the older women in the Sans Souci Club. She spoke good English, was very knowledgeable and was happy to sit and educate us for the price of an occasional drink. She let us know about the different girls and identified the various pseudo girls for us. She said she had been working there for 15 years but we were never able to find when we went looking for her in subsequent years. Eventually that year we got up the courage to go over to AB and the Chicago Club for several hours on our last night. The information from Brockton’s FAQ and the other information that I had absorbed from the web was invaluable in finding these places and having a general sense of what was happening. We were still far too intimidated by the scene and our marital status to indulge but it was very cool to simply sit back and absorb the scene. I did buy a girl named Esperanza, who had been highly recommended by Brockton, a drink but I just couldn’t bring myself to cross the line.

The next year we returned with a determination to take the plunge. The first night we cruised between AB and the Chicago Club and eventually hooked up with two girls at the Chicago Club. We talked and bought them several drinks and my friend thought that he had arranged for a two girl show for the next night. As is probably typical, they didn’t show at the appointed time. One of them eventually showed up and became quite outraged when she finally realized what we were really interested in. Given her outrage and the fact that the second girl never showed, we went back to the AB where Angela and her friend Alejandra latched onto us. I ended up going with Angela and my friend went with Alejandra. Angela wasn’t great but as generally described on numerous other posts she is a very nice girl and probably a good bet for a first timer. My friend seemed very satisfied with Alejandra. The candy store syndrome that is so frequently described is exactly right. It is just unbelievable for a couple of middle age white boys from the suburbs to go into a place like AB and realize that you can basically have any woman there. It also completely twists your perspective as you return to life in the US and for a while view every attractive woman from that perspective. On a more disturbing note, you also have to deal with the guilt of returning to your spouse and looking her in the eye knowing that you had a great time and can’t wait to get back. There is no doubt in my mind that this little hobby has an adverse, though very subtle, impact on one’s emotional connection with one’s spouse or significant other.

The next year, I was able to connect with Rock via e-mail and we met him briefly at AB when we got there around 5:00. Unfortunately, he was only there for the day but he was nice enough to give us a quick tour of the Zone and a few tips before he had to leave. If you haven’t met him, he is a great guy and very generous with his time and expertise. My real goal was to find Adrianna with the mole using some info I was kindly provided by El Pensador over the internet. Unfortunately, I had absolutely no luck despite a diligent search over the course of two nights. In any event, we hung around AB for a while and ended up sitting with Fabiola for a while. I just wasn’t ready to go to the room yet so we begged off and left to go to Revolution and hang out there for a while. We went to Peanuts and Beer where we had generally had some good experiences. Unfortunately, I got taken by giving the hustler from the street who seated us and took $10 for our beers. We got the beers but no change. The best advice I heard about handling those guys is to simply ignore them and go straight to the bar to order your drink. I tried it this year and it worked perfectly. We hung out there for a while then got something to eat. We then headed over to check out Madonna’s but didn’t go in because we didn’t want to pay the cover. We ran into an American outside who started asking us questions and eventually we asked him if he wanted to tag along. We went to the Sans Souci just to freak him out with the ts scene. After we had our fill there, we headed back to the Zone with out newbie friend. Faviola spotted me and started putting pressure on me to go to the room. We left after a while to go to the Chicago Club to show our new friend the action there and to get away from Faviola. Lo and behold she showed up there wearing a different outfit. She continued to hit me up so we finally tried to escape back to AB. Needless to say, Faviola showed up again at AB and continued her pursuit. I finally gave in rationalizing that she would probably be pretty good considering the amount of energy she had expended getting me up to the room. I also got her down to $40 so I figured that I didn’t have much to lose. She turned out to be very ordinary. While she did the covered bj, multiple positions and fake moaning, she had way too many rules like no touching the panocha. Our newbie friend had to leave to catch the tram back to SD so we made plans to meet him the next evening. We hung around for a while longer in AB but my friend didn’t find anything to his liking so we ended up calling it a night.

The next night we arrived at AB around 6:00. Our new friend never showed probably because he was too drunk to remember the important details. In any event, I was immediately set upon by Faviola. I told her I was cansado so she settled for getting me to buy her a drink. We hung out while my friend searched out the action. I wanted to try Wendy’s so we left and got a cab to take us to there. The selection was pretty bad but I figured what the hell. I actually got a decent massage with no extras since I was saving myself for later. We then had a good dinner at El Taurino and headed over to Mexico Lindo to get a beer and check out the girls before heading back to AB. We had had a couple beers here on out last trip and found it to be a good place just to relax. The selection has been ok when we’ve been there and sometimes there have been a couple of real hotties. I’m just not interested in paying the $100 tariff. It seems from my limited experience to cater mostly to upper end locals. We finished our beer and headed back to AB.

My friend had previously found a girl that he wanted to take to the room so we went back to AB to find her. Faviola found me again while my friend went searching. I bought her a beer and we hung out while my buddy went to the room. Faviola still wouldn’t quit the hard sell so I started negotiating for a 1/hr session with a mutual massage. I thought that maybe a massage would loosen some of her rules and lead to more of a gfe. My friend got done and we went over to the Chicago Club where I had arranged to meet Faviola later. She eventually showed up and we agreed to a full hour for $70. She also agreed to take care of the cost of the hotel above the 30 minute charge. I started in on the massage and she had her legs together and it became clear that she just wasn’t going to loosen up much, even with the massage. We went through the massage routine and then she put on the condom for the bj. We started off with her on top and she actually seemed to be getting into it or else was faking it pretty well. After a few minutes, her pussy started spasming so maybe she came or probably was just faking. In any event, we did missionary and finished in doggie and it was an ok experience overall. She was nice enough but just never warmed up. My lesson from the Faviola experience was to go for the variety and don’t bother to try to connect with a particular girl if you’re only going to be there for two days once a year.

My ramblings now lead us to this past year when we returned in early November for a Wednesday and Thursday night stay in SD. The first night we were unable to get to the Zone for reasons that don’t matter to this group. We ended up having a good dinner and hung out extensively at some of the strip places on Revolution - Madonna’s, Peanuts and Beer, and a couple of others. We also tried Isis and the Unicorn. We didn’t even stay for a beer at Isis but we did have one beer at the Unicorn and got some nasty attention from an older and not too great stripper. I think the descriptions of Isis and Unicorn that I have read are pretty accurate. They are nasty places but there isn’t going to be much decent talent the vast majority of the time. However, it’s worth a beer and a quick look.

We ended up ending the evening at Bolero’s. My advice here is don’t bother. The cover charge was $8 and as soon as we got there we received the no touching speech. Bouncers are lurking throughout and the girls won’t tolerate any contact. While the girls are pretty upscale, you might as well be in a SD strip club given the prices and all the rules. Never again!

The next night we headed straight for AB. We got there about 6:00 and frankly the talent was pretty scary. Fortunately, it slowly got better as time passed but neither of us saw anyone that we had to have. We went over to the Chicago Club where things were pretty slow. We finished our beer and headed back to AB. My one mission this trip was to get a massage at Azteca so we took a taxi to 2nd and Revolution and started searching for it. We found it and we went upstairs. I told the cute night receptionist that I was looking for a massage and she indicated that it would be about 5 minutes. My friend wasn’t interested so he left to do some shopping while I waited. After a couple of minutes, I was assigned to Marta who took me to the room and told me to get undressed. I did so and plopped down on the table and waited. Marta returned and started the massage. I indicated that I wanted a combination of hard and soft. She did a great job on my back side and then had me turn over. I would agree that her massage is very sensual. There was plenty of incidental contact that had me raging but she abided by all the rules and there were no extras or even any hint of their availability which was ok since I was saving myself for later. However, it definitely gets you primed for the real thing.

We then went over to the new strip place across from the Jai Lai. Don't bother, it was dead and the girls didn't even seem interested in our $1.00 tips. We left and went over to Mexico Lindo to see if we could find a girl from the previous evening that my friend was interested in. The place was fairly full and for the first time had a significant numbers of gringos present. We had a beer but the girl wasn't there so we left and went over to the upstairs strip club on Revolution across the street from the Bambi Club. It had been pretty nasty the night before but was not happening this night. One interesting thing about this place is on both nights there were a couple of guys with their girlfriends or wives in here. We stayed for a beer and left after turning down several lap dance propositions.

We then took a taxi back to AB which was packed. We eventually found a place in the back corner that I guess is the secondary dance area. It was actually an oasis of relative quiet and we sat under the fan so it wasn’t as hot as the rest of the club. I started making eye contact with a cute young blonde. This went on for some time and eventually I bought her a drink. We talked a little but there wasn’t much communication and the vibes just weren’t right although she was very cute and fresh. After a beer and a respite from the noise, we headed back into the fray and found a table over by the men’ bano. I spotted a really cute young girl standing against the wall by the entrance to the men’s room and started the eye contact thing. She was short, had a well-proportioned body with small breasts, had dark hair to her shoulders, was fairly dark skinned and was just very pretty. Eventually, she came over and I bought her a drink. Her name was Marta and she said she was from Mexico City and had two kids (5 and 2). She was quiet but very sweet and I got good vibes from her. I told myself that this is it so I didn’t even quibble over her initial $50 quote. We went up to the room and she did ask for her money up front. I got undressed and went over to her where she was standing with her black dress still on. Se turned around and gestured for me to help her undress. I unzipped the dress and slid it off. I then removed her bra and panties and started to gently massage her breasts. This received a positive response so I asked her if she wanted to start with a massage. She responded in the affirmative so I proceeded to massage her front and back for about 15 minutes. She seemed to especially like the foot massage. I eventually made my way down to her pussy and met no resistence as I rubbed her lips and clit while sucking on her nipples. I then took some of her lube and began rubbing it into her pussy and began fingering her. She seemed to enjoy the attention but I can’t say that she got particularly excited. I eventually asked her to suck me so she put on one of my chocolate flavored condoms and she proceeded to give me a nice covered bj with good suction. We then proceeded to missionary and then doggie. She let me play with her asshole for a little while but finally got nervous and gently moved my hand aside. We probably fucked for a total of 10 minutes before I finally came. I took a shower and she washed up very thoroughly in the sink. We got dressed and she waited for me to finish and then walked downstairs with me. I tipped her $10 and she gave me a kiss on the cheek and went back to her station by the bathroom. All in all, it was a very good experience that I would consider close to a gfe experience. She was very nice and had very few rules that I could see. She doesn’t seem to be a high volume chica and I would definitely see her again if I had the opportunity. My friend never found anyone to his liking so we left around 1:00.

Going to the Zona is still a novelty for me. I will never have the opportunity to be a regular so my experience is probably on a fundamentally different level than most of the regular posters. What I enjoy the most out of the experience is probably just soaking in the atmosphere and being able to have my choice of a whole menu of women that come in all sorts of different sizes and shapes. Although I love my wife dearly, the fact is that the sex tends to get boring and routine after a certain point. The Zona provides me with access in a relatively safe and anonymous environment to the variety that I find myself craving more and more as I make my way through my 40s. After lurking for so long and getting so much information from the various contributors to this and other forums, I though I would at least share my somewhat limited experiences for whatever they are worth.

By Porker on Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 12:50 pm:  Edit

Wow, terrific report!

By Diego on Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 06:32 pm:  Edit

Tahoe;

You are a lucky bastard in that you don't live in San Diego. You would probably end up just like me - LIVING DOWN THERE ON THE WEEKENDS!

By Matiz on Tuesday, November 21, 2000 - 07:01 pm:  Edit

Tahoe: Nice report. You described Faviola to a "T". I had pretty much the same experience as you did: she is pretty forgettable in bed once you finally give in and go with her, but, gawd, she does pursue you like a damn bloodhound all over Adelita's and even to CC. BTW, I too have been looking for Adrianna for years, ever since El Pen first mentioned her. I discovered you can actually go blind looking in a darkened bar for a Mexicana with a small facial mole. (Not to mention the number of chicas who respond because they think you're coming on to them.) Finally gave up. She's probably long gone by now anyway. Look forward to next year's report.

By Rock on Wednesday, November 22, 2000 - 12:43 am:  Edit

Hey Tahoe:
nice report.
Glad you made another trip.

you dudes need to get ripped and go hog wild!

Man, your friend sounds like a CPA.

BORING. Too bad I wasn't there, I would have corrupted your friend, or paid a chica to corrupt him. Maybe bankrupt him

HA!

Rock

By Tahoe on Wednesday, November 22, 2000 - 11:36 am:  Edit

You're absolutely right Rock. He can be somewhat of a slug and after 20 years I still haven't figured out how to loosen him up. Next time I'll try to connect with you and maybe you'll have better luck.

By Rock on Wednesday, November 22, 2000 - 03:41 pm:  Edit

Hey, no problem, I would either make him more fun or he would be passed out, on the floor.
My friends always want me to go to TJ with them so that I can liven up the party, otherwise these Mo Fo's are the original bumps on the logs and just sit and drink in AB. One dude came all the way down with us, wanted to watch the football game since he had some money riding on the game and was content that he just sit and drink a beer and watch the game. I had none of this and arranged for a session with a hottie and he certainly did have a good time. What a dumb fuck.

One of my goals is to party with Redongdo, when the two of us hook up in TJ, watch out!

Rock

By Curious on Thursday, November 23, 2000 - 11:42 am:  Edit

I think Redongdo wants $60.

By Redongdo on Thursday, November 23, 2000 - 04:26 pm:  Edit

And none of that sin condom shit! Actually Rock,it would be a trip but only if Pman goes too. He'd have to wear a pin stripe suit with a white carnation and call himself Dirty Ernie from Philly and we'd be his bodyguards.

Lookout TJ, it's the Invasion of the Asian Sensation!

BTW, I'm in TJ right now...just finished hanging out with Ronin who's trying to get a room for todas noche at Hotel Coahuila...but it seems they just painted a bunch of them and he's having trouble. Pretty good representation of "mongers" last night and it appears there's a few around now too.

By Rock on Friday, November 24, 2000 - 12:39 am:  Edit

I've been a security for one gringo that needed a Yakuza looking trio of body guards.

Rock

By Adelito on Friday, November 24, 2000 - 12:47 am:  Edit

I was there last night from 9:00pm - 2:30am. My fav. Susana was busy with somebody else for a long time, so I hung with her friends Diana and Diana for most of the night. I was hoping to go to plan B with Perlita, but she was not there. I ended up with some hottie at CC named Tanya...big fake tits, blonde hair, flacita, tattoo above the ass, but the sex was pretty lukewarm. She looked good, but once I was up in her I wished I'd held out for someone else. This was the first time I had been down there since I've been posting here and I kept wondering when I saw gringos if they were mongers. I probably talked to someone here and didn't even know it. Oh, well, next week Dallas, with a side trip to BT(only 8 hours drive each way).

By Pman on Friday, November 24, 2000 - 12:08 pm:  Edit

Adelito
The secret to Tanya is to eat her out for a good ten minutes. She is one of the wettest chica in TJ, then no lube and good sex all around.

By Specific on Friday, November 24, 2000 - 01:46 pm:  Edit

Pman
You are one crazy and lucky dude.You are
the only guy on this board that has been with more girls than me.You also seem to go down on most of them without any protection on your part.I have been to Thailand and before I went I found out all I could from everyone I could about catching some sort of sexually trasmitted deseases
and you can catch them from doing what you seem to do so well.For your protection and others be careful buddy.Remember what these girls do every night of their lives.You really have been lucky up to now.BE CAREFUL. Most will not love you more for this act on your part.Just think about it logically,you are paying them they can always and are getting what you give them from someone they care about.You too are a nice guy but maybe you
should just take a rest before this hobby kills you.Going down on one or two or as in my case 3 is alright(maybe)but you are just pushing the throttle to hard to do it to all of the chica's you are with.

By Pman on Saturday, November 25, 2000 - 12:54 pm:  Edit

Specific
I don't go down on all the chicas I play with but do go down on a fair number. I rarely do bbbj and would never consider bb. I have a fav these days so I don't even care about sex with other chicas.

By Specific on Saturday, November 25, 2000 - 03:06 pm:  Edit

PMAN
I really am glad you have a fave if you are doing just one I guess that is ok.What I said to you is true though.Pman the advice you gave Adelito,talk about the exchange of body fluids.

By Specific on Saturday, November 25, 2000 - 03:14 pm:  Edit

Pman
Two more things,first if you have a fave why so many new posts?Why are you changing your handle?

By Pman on Monday, November 27, 2000 - 09:15 am:  Edit

Specific
Having a fav is not like having a girlfriend. How am I ever going to reach 1000 if I have sex with same chica??? Also it may be work for chica, but it's only sex for me. I am giving up free sex to be with my fav.
I don't like mongers calling me by my handle in front of chicas which has happened in the past.

By Hippie on Monday, November 27, 2000 - 04:05 pm:  Edit

Being called by your handle in front of girls is always a danger, even by people who should know better. Unfortunately, alcohol and lack of common sense do not usually go together. I have caught myself doing it a couple of times, and have had it happen to me several more. One guy I know was so bad about that I have now even had a couple of CC chicas call me "Hippie", although they apparently think it is just a nickname. You can imagine how thrilled I was when this happened.


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