This is not my first report but it is my first report on a allnighter where a girl actually asked me about the internet and how she could get on it.So Julie this is for you.
Julie 20 from Mexico City one son 2 years old.5'3"
long black hair,105 lbs,A cup looks B in bar.Not a beautiful girl but is cute and young.
The night began well she actually showed up at Senor Frogs at 7pm just as she said she would.We ate and talked and everything was going well until she told me that she was going to be in TJ for only two years and she wanted to make alot of money so her and her novio(who is a cab driver) could get married.You could see she was not a pro yet.She told me next week she was going to try and move to Adelitas because they make big money there,and she hoped in a year to move to CC where she said all the girls she knows who work there make at least 1000 per week.Great set of career goals.Anyway I knew this night was not going to be great but I was paying 200 dollars for it so I decided to make the best of it.
After dinner we went right to my room at the Pueblo Amigo.In the room she asked for the money first which was not a good start especially after I had seen her 3 times(even though it was only for drinks at the tropical).We argued about this
a little bit but she said this was her first allnighter and all her friends told her she must get her money first or she must leave.I broke one of my cardinal rules and gave her the money.
The clothes came off and although she did wear this new pushup bra that increases there cup size,
she still had a nice young body.I asked her if we could take a shower together first, her answer was no, the first of many.No kissing a short covered blowjob maybe 3 minutes she no like giving bj's.No doggie it hurts,and of course the worse of all"you no finished yet" after me fucking her for about 10 minute in the missionary
position,where she looked like she was in terrible pain as I was doing the deed.I finally came and this was the first time in a hour she looked happy.
After I come she gets out of bed jumps into the shower and says now we sleep ok.(it was 10 pm).I told her I wasn't tired and she said what do I want to do.I felt like saying "get rid of you" but instead I politely told her she had alot to learn .She said this was her first allnighter and that her novio really wanted her to do it or she probably would not have gone.At this point I asked her to leave and ended up getting a pretty good session at Adelitas from a 20 year old.Whose name will remain a secret for now,until she fucks me and I don't mean in the physical way.

So, let me get this straight: this all nighter was the first time you had sex with this girl?

Rule number two of Curious's Creed says NEVER EVER do an all nighter without first taking a test ride at the gals bar/hotel!!!!

No matter how well you think you get along, until you get the gal en la cama, you just never really know. MUCH better to waste an hour and under $100 to learn than all night and $200!

Also, this will help build some trust - which is really, really helpful for spending the night together. Think about it from HER view - she was probably scared. In a strange hotel (to her) - on YOUR turf, so to speak - with a guy she barely knows.

Even then sometimes it takes a long time to build trust. This one gal I spent a couple of nights with never slept. Everytime I woke up she was wide awake watching me!! She later explained staying the night always made her nervous. Course the GOOD side was whenever I woke up she was ready for sex....

(If life deals you lemons, make lemonade!)

CURIOUS
Sometimes you hope for more than you know you will ever find in the zona and you take a chance.
When you meet a girl down their who seems to fit your fantasy you have to try to spend time with her to see if it can ever become sort of real.As it did once for you and me.Besides this girl would not go upstairs with me in front of her friends who are all 20 or under.

I understand. Sometimes you need to take the risk. Sorry it didn't work out.

Oh, and BTW - what did she want to know about the Internet?

Was she asking because she was interested in making money by increasing her business? If so, it seems odd she wouldn't go up with you at the bar! Sounds like she needs to figure out what she REALLY wants. It may be her "boy friend" wants her to make mucho bucks, but she isn't in to it....

CURIOUS
I think us mongers are being naive in believing
that these girls don't know about these sites and the internet.
She asked me if I first knew anything about the internet, when I said allittle she than said her and her friends go to the internet bars all the time and look at the different sites about TJ and the zona.After she said that I acted kind of stupid and said there are sites about the bars. She answered by saying her friends told her there are.I think she is just talking giving me half stories but I now truly believe the girls with any brains and money in the zona know about the internet.It is only a matter of time before all the girls will know because you know how they talk.There is not much else for them to do during most of the day.Curious, I have never given the name of a girl who gave me a bad session because maybe she was having a bad day or something.Like
Rock always says they are human but this girl really deserved this.If she reads it as I hope she will,she will learn that we are human too not just walking wallets.

Hey, I saw my name being mentioned! HA! I had to reply back to this.

Lot of dudes are so naive. they think that one dude gets this type of session and they will also. But not always the case. There are some chicas that will do pretty much the same thing for every dude, but not the majority of them.

I think I've been lucky in that I have gotten a lot out of my sessions in comparing with others.
One of the ways I think I get this is to really respect the chicas and to connect with them. Not to look at them as being a girl friend but to listen to them and try to be different than the guy before you and the one after you. A few dudes asked me what I specifically ask in a booth interview I do, while buying a chica a drink, but I don't have any specific questions, just more of a feeling if we are going to be compatible. If we can laugh together then I think it will be a great session and I have had only one session that was not great because I skipped hanging and drinking.

Rock

Rock
Forgive me for being blunt but do you really believe the high volumn chicas think you are special.They have lives other than there work(fucking for money)lives,maybe they might smile allittle more for you but you know what really motivates them.Try asking a hottie if you will get that same good session for 20 dollars the next time you see her.

Naaah, I'm not that dumb or blind, maybe some dudes might disagree. I agree that money is the bottom line. If not, I would get the sessions for free. But I don't go enough to get that, even if I could. I think if you go enough and do bond with a chica, then you can get to that point. Other dudes do post that they get a real relationship with a chica and I believe them.
The bottom line is that the chicas are not robots and with some "clients" they click better than others. So, some dudes get a better session than others.
And no need for forgivness, being blunt gets to the point. And yes, a few do feel that I am special in that given a choice between me and just another dude, in many instances if they could choose, I might get that edge. But that's it.
There are just too many dudes that go down to TJ and have an infatuation/obsession with a chica and they think that they are the "special" one. That's part of their job, to give enough to keep you coming back.

Rock

Rock
I agree especially the part about it is there job to make you feel special so you will want to come back for more.About half the girls I have been with promise me the moon,the next time.
The good first sessions are the standard covered BJ followed by the usual 3 positions.The girl usually ends the session with a small kiss.Do you know that the older chicas actually give the young girls classes on this routine.Of course the girls do vary on this but they are taught in the beginning that that is the way.Some of them stay robots especially at CC where they do 5-10 guys a night.

It's a tough life. Just think, if you had to hang in a bar, females were pawing you all over the place. The ladies are fat, ugly and you have to do them with a smile on your face.
Stop and think about that.
Next time you are out in public and see a very huge, obese woman and she wants you to eat her out. Now would that get you going?
I don't think so.
So, this is what some of the chicas have to put up with.
Sure, there are some good looking dudes that go into the clubs. But not that many.
Not to mention the drunks, the guys with bad breath...etc.
sorry to get way off topic on this.

Rock

Rock
Go to CC on a Saturday night.There are many young guys in there.Not that many of the pros in CC care that much as long as you have money you are beautiful in there.
At the tropical where the young ones start you mostly see locals that is why that place is becoming popular with mongers on this board.
Besides no monger on this board fits the description you gave of being old, fat, and ugly and we never drink.LOL

heh heh.
Sorry if I insinuated that anyone here fit that description, I certainly wasn't implying that at all.

And sorry, but no thanks, I don't go to TJ on Friday or Saturday nights. I just don't like the crowds.

Rock

"Not to mention the drunks, the guys with bad breath...etc."

I've asked two or three chicas after recent sessions if they usually make out with most mongers and they all answered the same thing...no, because most guys have bad breath and/or are drunk. Use those breath mints guys and walk that straight line if you want a little kissy kissy! ;^)

Hey Celtics!

That's right, all the chicas that ever kissed me in TJ never kiss any of the other guys. And all the chicas that gave me a BBBJ never gave the other guys one either.

Or as Maribel once said in AB one night "I wait for you" and I replied "Only me?" "si" she said and when I said "otra hombres?" she made a motion with her hand that conveyed "nada" then we both started cracking up.

Hey Guys,
It does help if you are at least good looking to these woman.I don't want to brag to anyone but I have had my share of free sex and many dates in TJ and other parts Mexico with woman.If you treat them right and don't treat them like whores them you might have them eating out of your hand. I see many gringo's in TJ and how they treat the woman and see why they get charged so much. Many of you need to clean up your act and lose so weight.Most woman from Mexico and other countries just want to spend sometime with men from the US so if you at least look good to them it's a great start.

Sfdude
If they look good it is a good start for us too.
If you look so good why do you still pay for it at all.Please don't give me bullshit that you walk into CC and you don't pay for it.These girls are pros and I have been with most of them.So please don't act so high and mighty because they don't care that much.We are not talking about the girls of TJ we are talking about the prostitutes.
I will walk into any of these bars with you at anytime and see who the girl will go with first you paying 50 or me paying 100.Another thing remember some of us mongers were once young and good-looking too.

Specific
Chill! Was just making a statement about looking good vs not looking good. It goes a long way with some of these woman.Of course I have paid , but I have also have had many sessions for free and spent many days with them out of work for free. Some of us must have a way with the woman.For your info my friend I'm over 40.

Redongo, you're an exception, of course! Fat, drunk, smelly, and stupid can work.

Actually, my comments were for some of the more conservative ones. They all do everything for someone, some for everyone. No shit, what else is new. Anything is possible with any chica if the vibe or money is right.

Redongdo said:

That's right, all the chicas that ever kissed me in TJ never kiss any of the other guys. And all the chicas that gave me a BBBJ never gave the other guys one either.

LOL that is FUNNY!!!

The fact is that if a chica gives you a BBBJ or makes out with you,she will with eveyone else usually. Don't fool yourself.

Specific,I know one guy who does very well because of his good looks. This guy is very big(not fat)good looking,young, speaks fluent spanish
He even has girls coming up to him in "normal" bars. Asshole

BTW,this guy had the hottest chica in AB as a novia.

Tomas, in a way, you contradict yourself with your last post. You say that you have a friend that the chicas will go after, a young, good looking guy. You also say that if a chica makes out with you or gives BBBJ, they will do it for everyone, "don't kid yourself." First, I'm surprised you'd say that given your zona experience. I know of more than a few chicas who've been reviewed on this board who mongers report do not kiss or give BBBJ, who have given me both. Not bragging, I'm sure other mongers have had other similar experiences with chicas who only give me fucky sucky. And, I bet I've had sessions with chicas who would only give me a straight 1/2 and 1/2 for top $$ that would probably give your friend a BBBJ and make out with him for FREE. Big difference, amigo. Why do think the saying YMMV came about. Duh.

CELTICS
Your last post is correct it is always YMMV.Sfdude
you are right too I should chill allittle.I just spent a lonely Thanksgiving,my first in probably 25 years.I am used to wife kids and family running around the house this time of year.I am also never drunk, dress well and always have clorets gum.If I didn't, these things can be changed .What I can not change is I am 45.It is just envy I quess.

My point was that,the guy I was refering to gets unually good treatment. Everyone who knows him would agree with me on that.
I know a ton of mongers in the zone and this guy is truly a freak

Celtics,you make some good points and your right,
but my only point is that most of the time,the chicas will give the same type of session to everyone. Thats just the way they are.

Celtics said

"Redongo, you're an exception, of course! Fat, drunk, smelly, and stupid can work."

Hey I take exception to that, I don't start drinking till nightime!

Tomas said..

Well Tomas said a lot but he's right! (now ya gotta buy me a beer!)

Redongo, LOL.

Anyway, the main thing is that you get what you want from the chica you want. Sometimes easier said than done. I think what you're saying is that chicas follow predictable patterns regarding what they will give up for most mongers. Agreed. But where's the fun in that, the challenge? Still, YMMV always. Bottom line.

Specific, that sucks about your change in Thanksgiving environment. At least we have the zona to go to. Maybe it's not family, but at least you can get laid!

Celtics,

I was just saying the same thing Tomas was saying, only apparently in cryptic sarcastic form. Selective perception, we believe what we wanna believe. A lot of guys just can't face the fact we're all basically the same in the eyes of the Ladies of TJ.

I think one of the "nuggets of wisdom" you can grasp out of these last 10-12 posts is: don't ever believe the chica if she tells you that you're the only one she kisses, BBBJs, stays all night with, licks your asshole, etc. If you're a paying customer, it's a good bet that (almost) all other paying customers get the same treatment. True, they may not do everything for everyone..but in the zona...$$$ talks loudly & no translation is needed!

I take most chica posts with a grain of salt. They either run the gammut from Penthouse Forum material to very non-descript. I'd venture to guess that most of the high-end "stories" tend to be too-highly polished and most of the low-end "stories" tend to hide some of the (good) truth. I was shocked recently with a trophy who everyone had posted as just that..."a trophy but don't expect GFE". Well, she has been the most passionate, wild, loving (seemingly!), funny, sexy, & giving chica I've ever been with. A couple of our sessions have even been free (except for the drinks, dinner, movie, strip club, etc.). I hold no allusion that she doesn't treat others the same way (though, she's told me no one else gets "that treatment"...lol...see first paragraph!).

I think this thread is the ultimate example of YMMV. Personally, I would say that I both agree and disagree with just about every opinion on here. My personal take: for the new girls, a guy's appearance, hygiene, communication skills and personality will frequently make a huge difference in the quality of a session, and how much, if anything, he will have to pay. For the real pros, it will make much less difference, but it can still be a factor, especially for repeat customers. For street girls, it seems to make almost no difference, except occasionally for a really frequent customer.

Hippie, I agree with you 100%. Well said.

YMMV(Your Mileage May Vary)?

Who gives a shit about mileage? If you've got enough money, just pick ones with a "big tank", a "decent rearend", and "smooth upholstery".

I'll always go for the well-maintained '67 Chevy type chick in the corners over the young lipoed "SUVs" in hotty central every time.

Hey Aardvark, are you telling me that my past trip reports were just the high end Penthouse ones that was full of hot air?

Next time I see you dude, you are going to be skewered and be served on the taco carts to all the stupid gringos.

Rock

One other thing!
I was just kidding.

HA!

Rock

Brothers,
The self-deception game is easy to fall into--takes a real ENLIGHTENED MONGER BROTHER to avoid it all the time, these girls are very good actresses. Your very own brother Ritmo is sometimes a little too full of himself 'cause he's had a few wonderful adventures down south--got the wind taken out of my sails a little on last trip when a cutey pulled a fast one on me--let me liplock her in the bar, then asked for money up front, old brother stupid did it (though he NEVER does this) thinking "she's been frenchin' me in the bar, it can't get bad from here, I got her right where I want her, she frickin' LOVES me!"--once she had the money, no more kissy, BITCH WHORE from HELL appeared, I didn't even want to fuck the girl at that point, complained to the hotel and got my room fee refunded but they claimed they couldn't do anything about any money I'd given her (she'd hidden it somewhere, emptied her purse to show I really hadn't given her anything--BITCH). If I were less a gentleman, I'da just slugged her and frisked her unconscious ass. So Mr. 'The Chicas All LOVE me!' got it smeared in his face by this little PRO. Hope this makes me more humble in the future, but I doubt it will. I am still far too full of myself and stupid. I can even now tell myself "well, she's the exception--you got it for free from two other girls during the trip, and got two awesome sessions of GFE for little outlay from one other." It's a hard disease to cure. Brother RED, my man, PLEASE REPEAT those words of wisdom you gave above re: the foolishness of believing YOU are DIFFERENT.

RITMO
I had that happen to me at CC often.So don't feel so bad.I have had at least 15 dolls downstairs turn into devils upstairs especially at CC.That is why I try to now pay after.Sometimes the girl catches me at a certain moment upstairs and I still pay before but not often.I do speak spanish though and I get business and payment straight downstairs,but even then they still sometimes ask for payment first and will not start without payment,even after they agreed to payment after downstairs.

I think all mongers that have spent any time in the zona have experienced both great and lousy sessions. No doubt, it's gonna happen.

My original post in this discussion said that if you smell bad and your breath stinks a chica is less likely to want to make out with you, from what the chicas tell me. Seems like a no brainer to me, just a simple comment, kind of tongue in cheek and a little humorous to me. Especially with the facial expressions that the chicas used when describing smelly mongers, pretty funny. Then Redongo comes in with sarcasm about how all chicas that kiss him or BBBJ him do it to nobody else. Huh?

Nowhere did I say or imply that I or anybody else is "special" or above the crowd. If you're paying for it, you aren't that special. No, shit. Hell, you may not even be special to the chica even if you're getting it for free. This applies to short sessions at the AB Hilton or all-nighters at Pueblo Amigo for big bucks. The main thing is that you get what you want and the chica and you have a good time. But I do say that YMMV, always. Hippie said it best.

Oh, and don't forget those breath mints.