A decent hotel right next to Chicago Club with parking that is free if you spend the night. However, there have been numerous break-ins into the rooms and I've personally been held up at gunpoint while spending the night (I will repost report later), so be careful. Part of the reason is it's the only one of the main hotels where it's possible to reach many of the rooms without passing by the front desk. Nevertheless, I will still stay there on occasion.

LOTS of drug dealing in Leyvas.

Just be forwarned.


SE

Drug dealings and being held up at gunpoint, what is Tijuana coming to, if i wanted to see all that i can just stay in my neiborhood to experience all that, being held at gunpoint that was a bad story, did ya ever find that girl who set ya up, you never mentioned if you found her or not

I booked a room (#5) there for Sat. 11/25 after asking at Rizo de Oro (sp?). While Cascada may be worth $28/night after all that renovation, what's Rizo got that also makes it worth $28/night? For someone who just needs a clean decent room with decent shower for a few hours of sleep and doesn't care for TV (or fan) it's still a bargain at $21/night.

To Felixthecat78:

Haha! FYI, TJ is the #1 entry point for drugs coming into USA. There are 4 druglords in Mexico who are known to be more powerful than the Colombians because they control the distribution channels of the drug trade. One of the most powerful of the 4 Mexican druglords is Arellano Felix, the white-skinned chief of the ruthless Tijuana Cartel. Felix is on the FBI's 10 most wanted list, in the same category as Com Sa, the head of the Golden Triangle. Felix and his Cartel own TJ. This is his home, his seat of power. About a year ago, Felix assasinated the Police Chief of TJ. If you look at Fielding's Guide to the most dangerous places in the world, Tijuana is in the top 10. So....please dont be surprised if you see holdups, shootings, murders in TJ.


Felixthecat78said:
"Drug dealings and being held up at gunpoint, what is Tijuana coming to"

JohnnyB,

You are are a babbling brook. Some of what you report is fact clowded with misconception. Yes, TJ is a dangerous place. Yes, there is a huge drug trade running through there. Yes, AF (it's a cartel not a person) probably had the TJ police chief hit for the second time in five years. BTW, Arrellano-Felix is a last name.

JohnyB where did you come from? Wherever it is, please go back there forthwith.

Sounds like "JohnnyB" is one of many names that the owner of one of the "other boards" uses here.

Whats the reward up to now on each of the A-F bros?They are pretty talented to stay hidden so long with such a huge price on thier head.

Gitano, before you go spouting off, you should try educating yourself on the facts first. You are wrong. Ramon Arellano-Felix is a person, not a cartel. The cartel is called the Tijuana Cartel.

Here's a link that tells you all about him. Educate yourself Gitano!

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/felix.htm

One of my fav's used to stay here with no problems. She had my radio, tv, microwave and left her money in a bag in the room for several days before depositing it into the bank. Our room was on the first floor, and the maids were very kind about unlocking the door if we forgot the key. I always parked my car in their lot and had no problems either.

Tell it to the AB chicas who have been ripped off for thousands there.

JohnyB,

You are a an idiot. Buzz off.

Taxi Bob the Reward is 3 Mil each. They are not cought because the DEA does not want to catch them, If the DEA ever actually eliminated drug trafficking, they would be eliminating the need for the ever greater restrictions placed on our liberties and financial privacy in the name of the "war on drugs"
Johny B, The Arrellano Felix is a family, of several very bad people. Why don't you go work for them? If we are lucky they will make you disapear.

Powerslave, did the ransom go up without the posters being updated? As of a couple of days ago they still said $2 million each.

Powerslave...Eduardo Arellano-Felix is one person. He is the Kingpin of his crime organization, the Tijuana Cartel. He makes Ochoa and Lederer of Colombia look like small minnows. EAF has so much money that he hires ex CIA agents for about $200k/yr as consultants. Supposedly, EAF has sophisticated listening equipment that is as good or better than the FBI and CIA.

And you learned this where... High Times???

Hippie---oops, you are right. The leading brother of the Tijuana Cartel is named RAMON.

Colombian cartels have decided to cut out the middle-man (Tijuana distribution cartels) and made their routes via Pacific Ocean. Their plan has been to send extremely large cargoes on smaller ships. Pacific Ocean is large and the resources to stop smugglers via ship are more limited. This is why you have seen large busts. Colombian philosophy is that they will lose some money in busts but not as much money as they are losing by using AF Cartel as a middle man. Now their distribution channels will go directly to the consumers (U.S.) If this philosophy works and AF Cartel is cut out, AF will have to resort to distribution of Marijuana only and their profits will diminish considerably. Overall this could cripple Tijuana's economy. You may see less Mestizo's driving around Playas and Hippodromo with brand new Navigator's and Escalades.

To Porker: No, I don't read High Times. Do you? I learned this from the FBI's own website. Here it is: http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/felix.htm

Say Porker, what's your highest level of education?

Blazer, actually, you got it all backwards.

In the past, the Colombians had always used the Florida method of getting their drugs into the US. Then, George Bush really cracked down, going after Ochoa, Lederer, and that strongman of Panama. Thus, the remaining weaker drugkings needed a way around Florida. They started to pipe their coke thru Tijuana. But at this time in the mid 90's, the demand for cocaine dropped replaced by Meth and Black heroin as the drug of choice by abusers. AR controls the distribution channels. In marketing theory, they are called "channel captains" and have more control than the manufacturer. So when the demand for cocaine dropped, AR found a new drug to distribute..heroin and meth, both of which are made in Mexico.

After a long absence I returned to TJ and used La Leyva again (after trying out Cascada and Rizo de Oro the last few times)

I was shocked that it now costs $26 (plus $2 for key deposit). Having read what other mongers said this time I asked for a room with window opened to Constitucion and on top floor (4). This turned out to be probably the best choise in the house because it's 1) probably safest due to the long climb and there's no possibility of entry by window, and 2) it lets me open the window wide, even while sleeping to let in the cool breeze.

The room, #406 to be exact, was reasonably clean and in good condition. No problem with water pressure. No problem with hot water. No problem with bringing in a SG either which I did.

However if the other afore-mentioned hotels are also below $30 I probably will go back to them since they would be a better deal.

Cascadas is still below $30 ($26 two weeks ago).

Merenpapi, where Leyva is a good deal is if you drive in. You get free parking with your room. Just be sure to get your car out by 1:00 PM on the day you leave or they will charge extra.

Cascadas has been $28 for a single for at least 1 1/2 years.

Cascadas was $28.50 a couple of Saturday's ago...

E

Last Saturday I paid $28, and that is what the sign said. The Saturday before they were out of singles above the 3rd floor by the time I checked, but I don't remember the sign saying anything different. Maybe the clerk needed 50 cents and you were there?

Epimetheus,

You paid $28.50?? How'd you get stuck paying an extra .50 cents? That's 1/30th of a RM BBBJ. Dude, you need to complain! LoL ... (prog)

On that Saturday I went to Cascadas (the alley entrance) and their sign said $28.50 for the room.

Now I realize this may offend the WF's of the world. However, I would have my detractors note that I overpaid for the room, but NOT the pussy!!!! hahah

E

I was on the street side, so maybe the signs differed. Anything is possible in TJ.

With the new extra $12 charge at cascadas, does leyvas become the better deal? Is it conveniently located for SGs and bar girls?

The desk jockeys there fuck with you every time you come back to your room.

I had the guy chasing me down the hall one nite, even after I showed him the single key to my room.

He wanted me to come to the "front Desk" and prove that I belonged there.

This was after I had been there all afternoon and been in and out of my room 5 or 6 times.

It was such a pain in the ass that I left around mid-night and threw the key at the guy.

The old crazy guy at AB, the candy man,stays there. He has been staying there constantly for about a year now and they still fuck with him.

Terrible place to try and get anything going.

I have to say I've never had that problem. I've stayed there a number of times, most recently in November. Lately I've found the Leyva rooms cleaner than those in Cascadas. And they actually provide two sheets during the winter.

I have stayed there two nights during the past month. I had no problems. In fact, one night I stayed in a girl's room for no additional charge, but that was after paying a bar fine for taking the girls somewhere besides the CC hotel.

The next night I stayed with the same girl, but the hotel manager said I could not stay in her room again. I paid $26 and I saw the desk clerk give the girl $6 (I suppose it was a kickback for bringing in the business).

Why would the Candyman stay so much at the hotel if he is fucked with? It makes me think it is not as bad as it might sound. If you spend very much time in TJ you are always going to be fucked with in someway or another. That just goes with the life down there.

dt

Last year I had an arrangement with a favorite who stayed there. I started paying the bill for her and always had a spot to come to even when she was working at Adelita's. I paid her room for a month, but they charge by the week, then give a free day for every week paid in advance up to four weeks. I liked the place. She kept her week's earnings there and a tv, radio, coffee maker and clothes, I was on the room with her so that allowed me access and parking. And it make her more exclusive for me. I loved waking up in the morning after a night of fun and having her head on my little head in the mornings.

Nayarit....Do you mind if I ask the question I know some of us must be wondering about? How much do the girls pay to stay in the hotel for a month?

dt

Last fall and winter the weekly rate was $63 per week times 4 weeks or $270 per month plus 4 free days. That made it $270 for 34 days. If the month had 31 days, you still got 34 days. I never could understand how the desk clerk figured it out, but he always got his calender out and figured it out by weeks, then he counted the days, then he added the extra days which he always forgot unless he was reminded that was the deal. It seems that you could negociate those extra days, but never the daily price. I was always on good terms with those guys and the cleaning lady who always let me into my fav's room if the key was not in the box. One other thing, once I leaned on the sink and it fell off the wall. They charge ME for a new sink. They wanted to charge $50, but I was pissed and argued about it not being properly installed and got it down to $25. I felt I was ripped off but the manager (stocky blond lady) was willing to call the cops on me, so $25 seemed the best way to settle. I have not been back since my fav went back home, never to return to this line of work. See my posts about Carolina #1.

I had a toda noche at Hotel Leyvas and regretted it. It was really hard to sleep because sound really carries from their central parking area. I heard people talking in the lot and car alarms going off and cars starting and warming up all night. Also, the church bells ring periodically.

There are two types of rooms. A standard is $20/night + $2 key deposit during the week and the deluxe is $25/night + $2 key deposit. The deluxe room is bigger, has a carpet and a marble bathroom but also has no TV. You have to wait for them to inspect the room before they give you back the key deposit.

Poppabear,

What do you need sleep for in TLN? Seriously, thanks for the info. I stayed in a $25 room on the 4th floor and had a different experience from yours. The room was very quite. The bedding sucks but the room was otherwise quite similar to the standard rooms in zaragoza, except there's no TV. But then, it forced me and the chica to chat a lot.

The only thing that scares me about this place is there are so many ways a bandito can reach your room. The hallway is completely haunted. For this reason I am very reluctant to stay there again.

Finally figure out how the Leyvas works (or do I really?). Rent a room on a Wed and it only costed me $23. No key deposit, nothing. Only catch is it's room 26. I think it's because these rooms in the numbers 20s are in the old wing and rather small that they are cheap. Other than that they're just as clean and comfy as the one in the new bigger wing.

Antonio: What do you mean by "haunted?"...Do you have any Leyva ghost stories to tell?...

At Cascadas, I recommend that you stay away from #512 if you are not into the ghost thing...

YoungBrig

Merenpapi writes "Finally figure out how the Leyvas works (or do I really?).

Room rates have always been posted on the wall next to the check-in counter. There are in fact different rates for rooms in the old and newer wing.

Attn: When you stand at the "check-in desk" at Hotel Leyva, to your right on the wall is a chart listing all the rooms by number with their price. The next time you go to the Leyva and want a room just ask for a specific number and they will tell you the price in dollars and in pesos. Remember, the rooms 101 thru 408 are in the 'newer' part of the building and you will pay more. Rooms 1 thru 75 are in the older section of the building and even have some kitchenette units in numbers 53, 54 and 55. The rooms in the older section of the building are generally cheaper then the newer section of the hotel with one exception, rooms 53, 54 and 55. I believe these rooms are 280 Pesos a night. The might be more or less.

Thanks Reytj and Shorts, now I know.

The deluxe rooms have gone up from 230 pesos to 250 pesos. There is still the 20 peso key deposit.

They have taken out the carpeting in all of their rooms and put in tile floors.

Admin: Photo moved to the top of this thread. Thanks for the submission Snapper!

Rooms rates have gone up by around 10%.

175, 225 and 275 pesos. All of the deluxe rooms have a TV but no porn.

That's because Silver and othe mongers who have boycotted Cascadas have brought them business and they are now thinking they have undervalued themselves.

(Message edited by maximus743 on April 03, 2004)

Do I look like a SUCKER???

Stayed here Saturday night (all you bastards had the nice places booked up, California license plated filled the parking lots of EVERY other place worth staying at) in a double room (2 single beds) for $35.00. The place was clean though, lots of fresh bedding and lots of towels, unusual in TJ. I think maybe I paid for a key that I didn;t get refunded.

Aside from a dreadful experience compared to what I was prepared for, I didn't get suckered too badly (see Operation AlleyKat 10 post for the gory details).

Not much noise, LOTS of security in the parking lot, your car is safe (unless the security guys want to go through it). These guys patrol the entire structure and NOBODY gets in or out without them knowing about it.

No problems with bringing girls to the room and the guy at the counter (speaks no english) is very nice. They do not take credit cards. Can't get CNN on the TV (I like to listen to the news as I glam slam).

Overall a good hotel experience, close to the action, easy to get in and out, etc. I will stay there again for sure.

The only problem was when I was leaving (at 5AM) the parking lot guy trid to clip me for $5.00 for parking. Had some difficulty explaining that I was a guest at the hotel, but after about 15 minutes, got it sorted out and was on my way.

I liked the bedding (fresh and clean with sheets and heavy bankets).

Country John

"Had some difficulty explaining that I was a guest at the hotel, but after about 15 minutes,"

Did you tell the parking attendant WHEN YOU FIRST GOT THERE that you were staying at the Leyva? If you did the guy is supposed to give you a ticket and you get it signed by the front desk and keep it with you until you leave.

Reytj

Poor planning ReyTJ. . .

Well, no. You see, when I first arrived at the Zona, I parked in a paid lot because I needed to find a hotel, a woman, some bud, etc. When I finally got to this hotel (I was actually parked directly across the street from the place) I didn't think about actually moving the car over to the hotel until much later in the evening. I did tell the front desk I had a car and gave them the make/model etc but I did not have a parking ticket when I checked in. When I did move the car, I did my best sign language to let the parking attendant know I was a guest and he seemed to understand so I thought "No Prob."

The right way to do this is to check your car in when YOU check in. Lesson learned. Amen.

Country John

Finally stayed in the Hotel Leyva for the first time last Saturday. After spending another night at the Hotel Rizo Del Oro, I couldn't bare another night of the continuous pounding and vibrating walls where I thought I was at a rock concert or something.

Hotel Leyva is one of the better places to stay in the Zona. The rooms are clean and at least it's peaceful. I would suggest trying to get a room in the newer section of the hotel as the rooms are bigger and it seems more safer.

Master B.

I stayed there 2 weeks ago. One night I got a room in the new building. It was very nice. Clean, 2 beds, tv, nice bathroom. This was on a Sat. night. 30 or 35 dollars. I then came on Thurs and the new bldg was full. Ending up staying on the first floor, all the down at the end (facing parking lot). Pretty nasty room. 1 bed, no tv, old nasty bathroom with 500 year old toilet seat (like I would ever sit down). Did not feel safe and ended up leaving at 4am. I think I paid 20 for that room.
That pinche at AB's hotel did not want to rent me aroom for the night even though it was a very slow thurs (thanksgiving). I used to be able to get a room any night with the other guy that worked the front desk. I dont know how long this smuck has been there, but he's an ass

I don't understand why you guys think the new wing is safer than the old one.

Well, maybe it isn't. I guess it's all the same, but other mongers whom I've met (from other sites) advise on staying on the newer section as it's just a little pricier and more well lit, as opposed to the older section where you have to walk all the way down that long hallway if your room's at the end.

To me, it's a great change after suffering so long at the mercy of the Las Cascadas and their fucked up one-chica-per-night policy.

Master B.

So, how many chicas joined you at the Leyva and where did you get them from and how much of a premium did you have to pay to get them there? Even those with a vendetta against Cascadas should admit that it's not like the Leyva is anywhere close to a substitute for Cascadas.

The Leyva always WAS a good deal for a hotel, though, if you used their parking lot. ~20 bucks for a room in the Zona and a free parking spot on top of that ain't bad.

Re: safety in the 'gringo wing', think again. I'm pretty sure that's where D'art got robbed at gunpoint, and a friend of mine had his luggage stolen when the thief entered through the unsecured (that's what the broken broom handle is there for) window. The other wing ain't safe either as both the famous Betty and Samantha had their life's savings stolen from there.

Re: 'peaceful', Noise from rooms facing the parking lot can be unBEARABLE when the clubs close. Car alarms go off incessantly, and this is on top of all the commotion in that parking lot.

The Hotel Leyva is a convenient place to crash out when spending the night in the Zona. Other than that...

I stayed in the place for the first time last week and was realconcerned about it as I usually stay at LVZ, but it wasn't bad. It had clean room with TV and felt pretty safe on 4th floor in newer section. Quiet at night. Only problem was walking up 4 flights of stairs. Price was right at $52 for 2 nights.

Overnite room rates have increased to 190, 240, 290p at Leyva. No rate increases from last year at Cascadas, Hotel Coahuila, Rizo de Oro.

What is the cheapest room here these days?

I would also like to know how much rooms go for there. And how safe is it to stay there these days??

I have the opportunity to stay at this hotel for one night and wasn't a bad deal. i think it good on the safe side not to bring to much stuff with you to prevent any lost problems. room was ok and clean. considering the area is an alternative if you need a place to crash for the night.///

A very large percentage of us who travel to Tijuana now stay in the high quality and luxury hotels outside of the zona norte, and some percentage stays on the U.S. side while a smattering use a variety of dumps in the zona and Centro that most mongers don't even know exist.

Here's the short list of hotels located within the zona or on the immediate edge which combined probably get 97% or more of the overnight room rentals from U.S. mongers who prefer stay in the zona:

Hacienda de Santiago
Cascadas (LC and HK hotel)
Rizo de Oro (Tropical hotel)
Coahuila (AB hotel)
Hotel Nelson
Leyva

Looking at this list I would have to place Levya at the bottom of the list for quality, comfort and security. It is probably the least expensive overall, and you get what you pay for.

There are at least 2 SG hotels that I'd book overnight in front of the Leyva (the Mini and El Porton).

Leyva does have certain conveniences, especially the free parking if you have your car.

So most of us will survive spending the night there and the following day many of us may even be rested and cheerful, but IMO, this is the bottom of the barrel of the commonly used zona hotels. It is a step above camping, homelesness, and some of the more squalid and filthy SG hotels. Rizo de Oro isn't far ahead of Leyva but at least you won't need to scrape icicles off your balls when you get out of an early morning shower if you don't bring your own space heater with you this time of year. Sorry to be disagreeable on Christmas night.

I already did a post, but what are the nices TJ sex hotels. I think there is one newer and nicer than La Mansion.

As Sampson indicates in his posts and links, these places are sprouting up all over. You may be referring to the popular Premier which is almost directly on the other side of the Via Rapido from La Mansion. I don't know if it is nicer or newer, but they are both pretty damn great in the love hotel niche. Sampson included the link for Premier in his listing of love hotel links.

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