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So I have been checking it out and I have to say that there are indeed very slim pickings here.

Sure there are a couple of nice chicas to talk to, they are nice enough. But there are really maybe only 2 that I would entertain sacking.

Number 1 is a flaca, fairly cute, brownish hair morena....I have not talked to her cuz she is usu busy and when she is free I am chatting it up with other girls and I do not wish to be rude.
I asked and was told she is 18 but with a smirk....I was guessing barely that. Danger Will Robinson! She is cute and I imagine once she figures out what is up she will move on to Miami or AB.

I will keep on visiting but if anyone can suggest another potential cool local bar I am all ears. Rio Verde could work but it is just too damn dark and smelly in there...

"Rio Verde could work but it is just too damn dark and smelly in there..."


Well just about any other club is going to be dark compared to El Fracaso. I'm not a big fan of Rio Verde but I've never noticed it to be smelly.

Why do I keep going back ?

It ought to be for the ugly girls !!!

On Feb 20th (Sunday) I had taken a street girl to the room for a couple of hours and experienced a total Viagra failure.

About six hours after taking the pill, I packed to leave, but decided to check out Bar El Fracaso (9:00PM) to see if "Shorty" was still around.

She had left, and I looked over the slim pickins' - On Sundays the bar empties out rather early. The (relatively) cute girls were occupied and the few leftovers were nothing to write home about.

So I selected on the basis of "least unattractive". You'd think I'd learn to do this more often with the occasional GREAT results I have had.

Well, I danced with a "mystery girl" (No fuckin' way am I going to share her). Her body heat reached through her clothes to my hands.

My limp organ literally jumped to attention. There was an actual jolting sensation in my penis.

Although I had paid her for 5 dances, I couldn't wait that long. "200 pesos ($18.00 US) for 30 minutes in the hotel ?" I breathed into her ear.

She smiled and we headed for Hotel Enva. As my condoms were already packed, I stopped by the postage-stamp sized small store to buy some.

I stopped to ask her "Did you bring condoms ?" and she nodded, so we went to the room.

I told her to relax as we were not in a hurry. After a while I told her to get on top and she did, but didn't put the condom on.

We changed to missionary and I finished. She washed up and came back to bed. The time was up, but I invited her to stay another 2 hours at the immense price of 300 pesos ($27.00 US)per hour.

She hesitated, but accepted. She was spotlessly clean and.... I muffed it. (The ultimate act of recycling).

She seemed unfamiliar with the process but enjoyed it none the less.

I think I have a new favorita...

SP, you devil you. Lol

Paucho...are you the gringo with glasses who passes candy around on sundays?

If so I have seen you hitting the dance floor...the girls seem to like you!

Peace

Pauncho:

I am the gringo who yelled at your new chica the other night. I would be very careful about the "no condom" approach, especially with the new AIDS bug that kills in 6 months and has no cure, now in San Diego. I have been trying to train her to use condoms, but she just doesn't give a damn about it.

Concarne Yes.

Explorer You yelled at MY chica
Which chica are you talking about

So Explorer, you are going bb with her because you can't train her, but you think SP should be careful? Or did you refrain because you are so careful yourself?

Erip, I use condoms, although she doesn't care.

SP, when you left the bar with your favorita, I had been yelling at her to get her attention; she was so focused on getting out the door with you that she didn't pay any attention to me.

Who is the india looking chica, face nothing to write home about, but with the nicest set of legs and butt I have seen in a looooong while?

Man...if it wasn't for the fact that I am working an angle I would have been so over her...what a booty!

Sr. Pauncho, any help with Concarne's question?

Sr. Pauncho, it seems ironic that since you were the guy who went with Citatli to her HIV exam, you would forget to use a condom with another chica (and a high volume chica at that). Hope you get your own test soon!

I hung at RV with DanTheMan on AlleyKat 53 on Tuesday this week. We decided to spend some time there because we were into changing bases from the street/AB/CC etc.

I thought the place had a very local feel to it that I was comfortable with. Had a chica on my lap in 5 minutes (Judith - 23 yo, 6 body, 4 face but lots of fun, lots of touchy feely during fichas) and I'll be back to sample some of the wares upstairs as soon as I can get over Esmeralda de AB!!!

Fuchas are $5. at RV which is cool and I like to slow dance with the girls. All in all a fun place.
Country John

Yes, Sr. Paunco........what's your defense here?

I think that Sr. Pauncho is probably too busy with his new novia to respond to our posts.

Finally recovered from the flu or something like that...back in El Fracaso both Fri and Sun if anyone is around...

BTW, where can I find a damn pool table in the ZN????

La Tropa always had pool tables. Haven't been there in a while, but....

Actually Curious I went there 2-3 weeks ago with a buddy thinking that we could play pool for an hour or so while molesting some Tropa dancers and the table is now gone!

Someone must know of other tables in the zona...

Well, there certainly aren't any pool tables at Fracaso.

No doubt...

Hey...scrapping plans to hit TJ this weekend. I just booked to leave Sun to the DR.

Wish me luck so that I come back with lots of intelligentsia and pics!

Hmmm ... Sr. Pauncho has been absent for some time, I wonder if his new novia is keeping him busy.

No Pauncho, no citlay...HMMM

I don't think that Citatli is the new novia. Given that I have seen SP and his novia at the same time and at the same place (walking out the door of Fracaso together), I am thinking that the training I gave his novia is blowing his mind and rocking his world.

OK, I have been busy.

Still, I do not know who you are talking about when you say my novia.

The morenita about 30 ?

The homely whitish girl about 25 with the big eyebrows and angular face ?

The morenita was my favorita for months.

Last Saturday morning just before she left me, she said "I have to make decent money tonight, So I will be dancing in the bar (El Fracaso) instead of being with you.

I guess I was supposed to believe she was not going to the room or something...

Both of our illusions were shattered when, after taking another chica out to dinner at restarant Komasa (Japanese), when we returned - upon entering the hotel corridor, we encountered the morenita going to the room with a client.

She saw me, and I saw her. Our "trust level" may never be the same. But I got well serviced by the new girl. We had the best session we have ever had.

Just as she was coming for the umpteenth time - the BIG" one -

I asked "Me quieres ?"
"Si" she answered.
"Yo tambien" I countered.
She responded with "Te quiero mucho"
("Do you love me ?" / "Yes" / "Me too" / "I love you a lot" )

About midnight, I ran into a SG that I like. She was on her way home. I offered her 400 pesos ($36) for an hour, and she said "wait for me in front of your hotel".

I waited for ten minutes and then left pissed. I took a 15 minute walk around La Zona. When I returned, she was out front waiting for me.

Well, another splendid session ensued. Now both of these girls are looking at me starry-eyed. I hope I am not creating a couple of green-eyed monsters.

I really do not understand. After spending my life as a "Could not score in a whore house with a fifty dollar bill" kind of guy, and then working my way through most of the whores in Tijuana, all of a sudden it seems like I can do no wrong.......

The 25 year old one with the big eyebrows, she is the one I saw you split with a couple of weeks ago. I am thinking that she is keeping you busy.

Big eyebrow was super busy last night, while I was with some other chica, I noticed her occupied the whole night, in and out.

More importantly, I spotted a really stunning chica in Fracaso last night, she looked like the girl in the opening scenes of the Mummy, the girl who got stabbed (not the chica in Fracaso, I mean in the movie). She was rather busy, too.

Fracaso was pretty busy last night, as well. The chicas are hit or miss, mostly gorditas, but if you spend some time looking around you can find the pearls.

So this new chica shows up at Fracaso the other night, from Puebla, with the usual story, I was working in Puebla, my amiga invited me up here and now I have to work in the Zona, oh my.

The Explorer take is that she was invited by her cousin, but back in Puebla she worked as a SG.

The real story is probably that her padrote moved her up to TJ, but I know nothing about Puebla SG scene and whether they also have padrotes.

By the way guys, I have changed my standard pricing procedure.

Now it is 200 pesos for the first half hour, and if it is good enough to keep, 300 pesos for each additional hour.

And this price is chafing me.

The other day (mid'week)I got about 35 minutes with a street girl (Totally nude including tit sucking) for 100 pesos at Hotel Irma.

Seems the chief door knocker was watching a good game on the TV.

And I believe I have found another 1,000 pesos for all night girl (SG).

Of course I am always checking for new resources...

Your Fracaso chica says you shouldn't bug her when she has the flu.

(Preamble Bar El Fracaso is principally populated with girls from Puebla, Veracruz, and Tlaxcala. The food in Tijuana does not please them, and they prize their regional fare which is almost unavalable in Tijuana.)

It was a rather different Friday afternoon & night for me.

At some point, I danced a few with a new "I don't go to the room" girl. We went out to lunch, then returned to the bar (El Fracaso).

We danced a few, and when my prepaid dances ran out, I reached into my shirt pocket to extract a dollar or two, and, OOPS, there was a 200 peso note.

Stupid me, I had left the restaurant without paying the tab. I literally flew out of the bar and returned to the restaurant to bail myself out. (no problem, they know me well).

Then I returned to my hotel adjacent. Further down the (outdoor) corridors from my room were Sara & Laura from the bar.

I quipped "Ay 2 for 1!" "Who's the lucky guy ?"

“You”, they responded. “We were looking for you.”

Turns out they saw me dashing out of the bar and followed me, but that I had lost them when I turned in to the restaurant. (Sara had headed for room number 4 where I spent Wednesday night, but I had changed rooms.)

They proceeded to wheedle me “Will you go get us some cemitas (special sandwiches Puebla style).
I had already made one trip to get some earlier in the day for some other girls, but, fool that I am, I said “OK.”.

I called in my order, and proceeded to look for a “Taxi Libre”. As I passed SG Alondra (Hotel Irma), she asked me “Where ya’ going ?” I told her and she started whining “Please bring me a “Taco Arabe”.

He co spinner Andrea chimed in as well, and they also both asked for some Papalo (regional herb) as well.

Well, I gotta’ be this place’s best customer, spending about 30 bucks…
I picked up the food, dropped off some tacos with Alondra and Andrea, and then returned to the bar. Laura was ready and Sara was dancing with a client.

Laura and I went to the restaurant nearby (Lorena’s) and borrowed a table and some plates and the services of a waiter. Sara showed in just a minute or two. She had dumped her client rapidly in fear of losing her sandwich to another girl. (Who says that money is their only priority ?)

I had a leftover Taco Arabe which I gave to Lorena (Also a poblana). The girls scarfed down their sandwiches (each one is big enough for two people) and guzzled down the (regional) sodas that I had also brought. We were like a bunch of teenagers on a soda date.

There was one leftover soda which I offered to my ex-long-term-favorita at the next table. She accepted graciously.

I then razzed my two friends that they wouldn’t have any clients with “Papalo breath”. (I was still burping up papalo from my meal 6 hours before).

When I returned to the bar, there were several obviously jealous girls.

What food do the chicas from Vera Cruz like that isn't found in TJ?

Most of the chicas from Veracruz are from the state, not the city, and that generally means Cordoba or Orizaba, which might as well be in Puebla.

Pauncho:

Your Fracaso girl with the flu is eyebrows Rocio. She was sick last week. Apparently, she only came to the bar for your appointment, and was not in good a shape.

I hope you are feeling well.

BTW, if you want to really make her happy, give her a gift specifically for her novio; the poor guy would probably appreciate it if the guys banging his girl gave him some props.

Yama,

For most Poblanas (de Puebla), Veracruzanas (de Veracruz), and Tlaxcalanenses (de Tlaxcala), the answer is the same; Cemitas (it is the name of a type of bread and also of a type of sandwich) usually cemitas de milanesa, and tacos arabes (arab tacos on pita bread - but it isn't like pita bread in the states).

A favored herb in cemitas is Papalo (also called papaloquelite) which is a pungent variety. The chicas decidely love the stuff. It is almost unavailable in Tijuana.

Explorer,

I am feeling well, thank you.

We didn't have an appointment.

The perfect gift I already gave her.

This girl likes to cook, and brought her collection of spices from Puebla for this purpose.

But she couldn't bring Papalo, as it is a fresh herb. I brought her a "bouquet" of papalo instead of flowers and it went over VERY well.

So I searched the internet and bought some Papalo seeds and bought a "seed starter" kit and gave them to her so she can grow her own.

I will try to make to Fracaso this week, to see who is there now. Its been a while.

I think they polished the dance floor, it looks really shiny now. Oh, they got a cat at the bar, too. Other than that, same shit, different day.

I made a quick visit here last night - there certainly are a lot of heifers in there, but a few minutes of hanging out, and you will see the pearls among the swine.

There is now a sign on the wall that says: "Absolutely prohibited for anyone to act like a pendejo here".

And the sign was the reason for your quick visit?

Yeah, I was forced out of there by that sign.

I don't think you had to take it so literal.

Well...it has been a while and my frustation level continues to grow as I read so many good reports of the countries (Indom, Cambo, Colombia one of which will be my next international stop)so I will be making a pit stop in TJ this week.

Either wed eve or thur eve. Anyone going to be around?

There are some other benefits to Fracaso. In AB, many of the chicas walk around with a really bored look on their face, as if its a job they are doing, and a boring one at that. In Tropical and Miami, you get chicas that are likewise bored, many have reached the point where showing up every day at work is not too much fun anymore, the excitement of first getting to TJ has long gone.

At Fracaso, you get chicas that work during the week at the factory and have cut a deal with their husband to "dance" at Fracaso on weekend nights. These have not been ground down like the full time chicas. Even some of the 7 nights a week chicas seem to have a better attitude than the chicas in the other bars; maybe its because there are so few clients who can afford to take them to the room that sex is more interesting than dancing or drinking sodas.

When does this place pick up, if at all during the week? I'm primarily an early bird.

Cheers,
-Smithy

Well, A usual I don´t share about my treasures until they are spent (with me), but Bar El Fracaso has its share of treasures.

You just have to poke around.

There seem to be more new faces lately.

My ex-ex-ex-putanovia says business is down.

It seems that several chicas are mad at me because I no longer go with them. Others wait knowing that my new putanovias never last long.

My new one likes to take me to the bar just to stake out teritory. She does not know that these chicas have no respect and would do me if the opportunity arises.

These chicas get teritorial and occasionally resort to blows. The grandaughter got 86'd for fighting over a client.

There's lots of new faces now - looking for Christmas money

Anything tasty?

Recently I have seen several girls from this bar working the street, more than ever before.

I believe business is way down, a bargain hunter's paradise.

One girl who - in the past - would only do TLN for 100 bucks on weekdays, now does it weekends as well.

Most girls make more than that on Saturdays, though.

A gringo buddy just told me that some of the new girls are asking 40 dollars.

A couple of them laughed when I suggested 20 dollars for a half-hour.

But another new girl readily agrees to 20 bucks.

Go figure.

My new one likes to take me to the bar just to stake out teritory. She does not know that these chicas have no respect and would do me if the opportunity arises.

These chicas get teritorial and occasionally resort to blows. The grandaughter got 86'd for fighting over a client.


this is so true. i use it to my advantage and get them to compete servicewise. good fun

Note:
There are several new girls there who met while whoring in the state of Tamaulipas.

I was dancing with one of them and playing grab-ass (Not a usual thing in this bar), when some got a good grab on my ass.

When I looked around, I didn't see anybody I know. Turned out to be one of my partner's friends. So I grabbed her tits.

Her partner is a regular and probably knows my face, but he looked pissed off just the same.

But he didn't say anything, so I guess I'm lucky.

I started kissing my partner repeatedly on the lips (also not a usual occurence in this bar, nor with hookers who might swallow your cock, but I'll be damned if they will kiss), getting a couple of serious dirty looks from from ex-"Duena de mi corazon" and a lot of smiles from the girls.

A couple of them started flirting with me.

For the terminally ill-behaved (that would be me !), this place is getting to be a lot of fun.

I would note that I don't think just anyone could get away with this shit. I am kind of that bar's pet gringo or something.

Keep that up, and one of these days some irate boyfriend is going to jump you on the dance floor!

I am totaly amazed that it hasn't happened before, but I believe that the girls keep them in check or something.

Also, they tend to celebrate a gringo loosening up (they see us - as a group - as a bunch of tight-asses).

The other day I was playing grab-ass with Lupe in front of the hotel across the street as a few young mexican guys passed by.

Down the street they paused at a pay phone and as I passed I quipped "How beautiful is life !" and they just laughed.

Sometimes I think they are jealous that they are too well bred to pull the same shit I do.

I find that sometimes the atmosphere at Fracaso can get tense - there is sometimes some novio of a chica in the bar, she still needs to collect some cash, her customer gets frisky, and there is tenseness.

Its hard to imagine, but sometimes the chica's novios will show up and act like a customer for a few hours, sometimes with her, and sometimes with another chica (!).

And there there are the times when all hell breaks loose.

I have frequented Bar El Fracaso for about 3 years, but lately the place seems changed.

It's not as much fun anymore, ever since I FINALLY fell out of love with the girl I called "owner of my heart".

I told her I needed to get me a non-whore girlfriend and now I have one.

Life ain't perfect but it's pretty good.
My biggest problem is my roving eye.

I am still finding pearls scattered in there among the other "chicas" at Fracaso. The problem is that some of the thinner chicas don't have much of a personality, they are often very dour and generally unhappy.

The reason for their sour and unhappy appearance is because they are confused as to whether or not they've made the right decision in getting into prostitution.

They are "newbies." Give them time. They'll eventually graduate to AB or CC, that's if they meet the right qualifications in looks.

Master Bates.

Nahhh, I have noticed that some of them remain sour months after arriving at Fracaso. An then there is Teresa de Puebla who looks as frightened as a rabbit while working as a mesera/fichera.

Teresa de Puebla? A waitress? Does she go up?

Bates.

Teresa is a very young and timid mesera. I am told she does not go up, I think she is married, and has 2 kidlets. Since her aunt also works in the bar, it would be tough for her to go up.

Teresa does not go up, she has been around for almost a year now and has not broken down.

2 kids, and although she denies it, I am pretty sure has a bf close by whom she is with.

I am also sure of that, because she is so fricken nervous.

Could it be that she's nervous because of the environment she's in? Either way, I plan to change that. I enjoy the challenge of asking maseras upstairs.

Description please......

She is the only mesera in Fracaso younger than you.

I ran into Cristina at Fracaso last night. We were talking and she claims that she had been in TJ for six months or so. Of course, Cristina is a notorious SG who works out of Hotel Eduardo, and has been a SG since the Clinton Administration. I guess her padrote is making her work double shifts now.