I am wondering this aloud because everytime I go down there I see a lot of familiar faces. Faces of girls I first did back in 2000 when I first entered this hobby. There are several chicas I see EVERYTIME I am down now, which is only a few times a year.

Cartoon Socks Jacqueline is one girl I see EVERY time I go down. I first did her in 2000. I think she looks like crap now. She has really gone downhill. I see Rosie de Obregon every time I go down. I first did her in 2000 as well.

Africa I did on my first trip to TJ in October of 2000. I have seen her off and on, but she is there now.

And then, of course, there is Dora/Miriam. I think I did her in late 2000/early 2001 and have repeated with her several times. But Dart told me she has been then since he first started going in 1998! Wow!

So anyone know which AB chica has been there the longest?

All I can say is that I started going to the zona in late 1996 and there are still numerous chicas still working hard who were already seemingly well established when I made my first couple of trips. I don't even know the names of most of them.

Those I do know include my first two AB chicas...Angela la Tiburona and famous Tanya. Crazy Monica (now AB) was at CC the first time I went there. Dora is a contender for longest tenure if what a couple of old timers told me one day about 3 years ago is true...i.e. that they had known Dora in AB for the last TEN years (going back to 1990) - she must have been amazing in 1990! I noticed Gloria and Isabella (daytime dancers) on the scene at least shortly after I started coming to TJ. Sofia was at CC (now at AB) no later than very shortly after I first started going. Samantha the BJ queen (now at CC) was at AB.

"Cartoon Socks" has only been around about as long as you've noticed her, a relative newcomer - and I agree she is really looking ragged now. Actually, she was bound to age ugly...her appeal was always in a fresh young coed non-puta quality I think - her features were never technically "bonita". Her sharky rhino-assed mentor Melissa goes back at least to 97-98.

Surprising how many of the trophies have been around at least 5-6 years...including Gabby CC (though she has come and gone), Smith and Africa (maybe 4 years for Africa), gorgeous nighttime dancer Alejandra (also comes and goes and comes).

My first ever CC girl is still hanging out over there (can't recall her name) along with loca Betty and a few other lifers.

Amazing how well we've all aged!

Wow. Famous Tanya! How could I have left out famous Tanya? I guess I didn't see her and that is why.

I shutter to think about how many guys famous Tanya, Dora, and Gabby, Smith, etc must have done. Wow! That is about all I can say. Wow! Thanks for the response!

My first girl Esperanza at AB is still plying her trade from time to time, I believe. Valeria the linebacker was onstage dancing on my first overnight trip in late '98. Gloria at AB (pre-boob job) was rather new there and still lactating from her youngest child. Tania, Betty, Gaby and Vanessa were already LEGENDS, though Gaby obviously got a very young start. Samantha became a legend soon thereafter, and her former roommate Jessica arrived not long after that and is still around. 4-40 and Mahogany have both been there at least 5 years. Shit, BASKETBALL GIRL has been there nearly 4 years.

Hell, even Big Titty Girl is a grizzled vet now. 3 1/2 years ago she started as an underaged girl in a ficha bar and got knocked up by the waiter within a couple of months of working.

As Erip mentions, Jacqueline couldn't have been there too long before you met her. She was once a really sweet girl. Unfortunately I think I KNOW what turned her into a mercenary bitch.

Ootie and I were lucky enough to run into Evil Amy/Julieta in her first week at the bar.

Man, the list is so long, I almost wonder who's NOT around since I started going to TJ! There has actually been some turnover among the street girls...

My first great CC experience was Sofia (maybe 1998) although I haven't seen her in a while. Back then, both Dora and Elizabeth were the top performers at AB. Dora is still there and still looks great but Elizabeth has been MIA on my screen for a while.

Porker - yes, innocent sweet adorable pre-Evil Amy during her first TJ days. It makes me shudder to think about it. Also, to this day I still wonder what ever happened to Olga.

A This thread is bringing back some memories kind of guy,

Ootie

Oh...let's not forget Scorpio de Manhattan Club. She's still lascivious, lewd and luscious as ever holding down regular shifts at Peanuts & Beer.

Ootie...Olga CC from the late 90's? I have a memory of a waiter telling me she took the matrimonial fork in the road.

Elizabeth still makes very rare cameo appearances. Absolutely whacked (in a GREAT way), but still absolutely gorgeous...maybe more than ever.

Porker: You met Julietta in her first week as "Eve" at AB? What an angelic vision she was...and of human proportions at the time. Despite appearances, she was already "evil" early in her rookie campaign. However, it was breathtaking to go into AB in those days and see Sylvia, Jenny and Eve standing in close proximity to each other in HC.

Olga got married to a monger who took her to SD according to an email I got years back. The guy asked me to erase all of my previous posts about her. I suggested that perhaps he simply stop reading the board! I REALLY wish I had a picture of her, as all I remember now was luscious dark skin, big, super firm tits, and her slamming herself down on top of me while fucking like a rabbit.

Erip, I have no idea what names Amy/Julietta was using in the bar (or what her real name turned out to be), but she was a real sweetheart the first time I met her, GFE all the way, and yes, a deliciously filled out natural body. A month later she was rolling her eyes when I'd try and talk to her, and then after the trips to the surgeon, she could fake being interested in order to try and make some money, which made me run away from her as fast as I could. It's weird, though, she'd remember me years later, and I only ever did her ONCE and maybe bought her 2 drinks after that, and she must have averaged doing twenty guys a WEEK for several years in between.

Elizabeth at AB was a fun bang, and from what I could tell, a nice girl. It always amused me how she could have all these rules in the room but then ask me about getting married or something when we were done!

Ahh, the good old days in TJ!

Porker, what a privilege you had to bed "Evie" in a sweetheart frame of mind. The only thing that kept me away from her at first sight was that she looked scared to death like so many f.o.b.s. I thought going upstairs with me would be more trauma than she could process at the time. A few weeks later I was chatting with her...or trying, and all she could say was "Let's go to the room". She was 100% detached in every other regard. In recent months she's tried to work me a little to go up with her at CC...but this is not the sweet lovely Eve of her TJ Genesis...nor even the Evil Julietta of CC...this is the newest version, Giant Azul who is evidencing awareness that her appeal is slipping. The cycle comes around and she may be ready to turn sweet again.

Erip and Porker...I remember watching Julietta do her thing one evening last year. She was in her prime that night. I shared a booth with DoginHeat, DoorKnob and Sparky Anderson. We amused ourselves by timing her trips upstairs. In about an hour's time she made four trips, averaging 11 minutes per trip (curtain to curtain).

Smith has been around awhile as well...and as I didn't see her in her "teen dream" stage at HK, she was a vision at CC 3-4 years ago dancing. When Vanessa left (another long-termer though with a sabbatical in the middle), Smith held court on the dance floor with her less-enhanced body (then it is now) and her braced smile.

BTW, Ootie, are you aware that Sophia is now at AB?

Just to make sure we aren't confusing the two chicas Evil Amy and Evil Julietta:

The current Evil Julietta at CC (with the gargantuan breasts) originally began in AB as Eva (a normally proportioned chica with natural B cups) but she always had an awful reputation (I saw an hombre follow her down the AB hotel stairs one time yelling "that's the worst session I've ever had").

Evil Amy (who ironically loved the Juliet character of Romeo/Juliet fame) started out as a complete sweetheart in AB, and Porker and myself experienced her mesmerizing innocence during her first week in TJ (much more information is available on Amy's history in her thread).

TJphoenix

Yes, I saw Sophia first make the switch to AB about a year and a half ago but I haven't seen her on recent trips.

A Thinks that an exit interview with hombres (and an official stopwatch clocking) at the base of hotel stairs would yield a goldmine of information kind of guy,

Ootie

I think she made the switch...but then went back to CC for awhile. Her recent stint at AB has been for less then 6 months. I too didn't see her on my last trips but she would always magically appear saying that she was always there.

An 18 year old Smith actually started at CC I guess around 5 years ago, maybe 6. She moved to the original HK, then back to CC when old HK combined with Miami, and finally to plow the fields of hardons at AB.

One may not notice much physical difference if he goes to AB every often. Without reference to the post above, in general the longer these ladies at AB the better in performance to counterbalance thier gradual out-of-shape. I prefer better performance for there is No exchange or return for lousy material.

I started going to TJ in 95-98 I seen famous Tanya off and on at AB when i was going. Also seen Ann marie there to during that time period.Have anybody notice that the second string girls are there for a short time out.