Reposting my report from the threaded board to get an ML thread started here.
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After spending a few hours at the new TJ Lord Black on the south end of Revolucion last Wednesday night, I didn't really feel up to hauling my ass over to the zona. Since I was staying at the Villa Zaragoza, I decided to check out current conditions at Mexico Lindo - first visit in a long time.

For those who don't know the history, ML's glory days preceeded the 90's gringo makeover of the zona. ML catered to moneyed Mexicans and norteamericanos who wanted high quality, English speaking, well dressed chicas in a more sohisticated atmosphere than the raw and rowdy bars and dancehalls of the zona. But nowadays, with the availability of world class babes in the zona at popular prices, ML has been operating in deep obscurity.

I entered well after midnight and found that it still retains a taste of its former glory - has the ambience of an intimate neighborhood pub and restaurant - low level jukebox music - quiet and sophisticated (that is compared to AB). About 15 chicas dominated the small landscape - all seated at the bar or at tables. Only a few customers for them to prey on. I sat at the bar and of course all the chicas were eyeing me and wanting my attention. They ran the whole range from skanks to plain, and all the way up to elegant attractive older mujeres (late 20's to mid 30's) wearing cocktail gowns - generally visions of latina retro glamour along with office girl types - think of Mexican accented Lauren Bacall in the Bogart movies, or Kim Cattrall on "Sex in the City" (style and presentation that is, not level of attractiveness). These chicas know how to hold and draw on a cigarette.

However, the chica who caught my eye was outside of this norm...more of an AB type - a younger pretty face chica who was sitting and drinking with another customer (can't remember the name - started with an F and she's from Hermosillo and likes Heavy Metal). She was wearing a sheer black dress that revealed considerable curves along with a decent amount of extra flesh that would cause many to lose interest - but I prioritize face and attitude. She detected my interest and blew-off her other customer and came over to sit next to me. I bought her some drinks ($6) and we had a great time for 90 minutes or so....my Spanish was, as Marv Albert would say, ON FIRE, after chatting with the Lord Black girls all night. The talk eventually got very sexy with pornographic discussion of our sexual fantasies...verbal foreplay! Then she walked back to my VZ hotel room with me and we acted a few of them out for about an hour($80). She was a party girl looking for a toot and and a toke - in bed she was both affectionate and nasty - and definitely looking to enjoy herself as much as I was.

Any chica worth doing at ML will ask for $100 for sex, but that will be an extended session - usually an hour. On slow nights, which most nights are, expect the price to be negotiable. They use the Motel Leon across Calle 7 from the bar and I believe that joint extorts something like 20-30 for the short term - but if its an hour session, that isn't much more than you'll pay for an hour at the zona hotels. Sorry not to have more precise details here - that is because I used my own overnight room at the VZ.

BTW, in my experience ML is a slow build with midnight being about the prime hour to visit. Earlier than 10:00, you will find few if any chicas. They used to have live bands in the back room on weekends - don't know if that is still happening.

Location: northside of Calle 7 between Revo and Constitucion.

I was intrigued by the Mexico Lindo/Zaragoza connection referred to above, so I checked it out. I'd stopped there a number of times, but never been with one of the ladies.

I arrived about 11 p.m. and things were only slowly beginning to get started. Clearly, it's pointless to get there any earlier. About 12 chicas and maybe 15 gents were squeezed in, mainly in the bar area. A couple of ladies were sitting in the dancefloor area in back, in a small group talking.

As Erip pointed out, the bar is small and intimate, but well-appointed. The staff is extremely friendly, the clientele is mostly older and well-heeled. The Mexicans appear to be professional or businessmen, and the gringos are older Americans who seem to be regulars and know many of the chicas. It has the feeling of a small men's club. Reminds me very much of Anthony's in Ensenada, only much smaller.

The attitude of the chicas is like Anthony's also, and a refreshing change from the ZN: kind of an intermediate position between the aggressive hard-sell of AB, and the aloofness of CC. The chicas generally don't initiate contact, but they will readily return your smile and come over at the slightest encouragement. And because the bar is so small, there's lots of incidental contact and opportunities to strike up conversations. The ladies appear to all be in the 25-35 year old range, dressed mostly in evening gowns. Beauty level varied widely, but all were carefully made-up and on their best behaviour.

Because the clientele and the ladies were both more, hmmm, "seasoned", the overall ambience was very polite, laid-back, even genteel. Smiles and courtesy were the order of the day. Everybody was relaxed and having a nice time. I enjoyed it, but some of you Young Turks would probably find it a bit placid.

I was immediately engaged in conversation by Luis, an accountant from Ensenada who was sitting next to me at the bar. He told me with confidence that this was the "best" bar in TJ. When I explained that I usually went to AB and the ZN, he looked at me with astonishment. It's very dangerous there, he said, and told me he'd never consider going there. I got much the same response from the girl I met, Liz (pronounced "lease", as in "I have a three-year lease"), who told me that AB, besides being dangerous, was populated by people who were "corriente". So all you guys--take note of that. She means you and those low-rent hookers you hang out with.

Anyway, while Luis was telling me all about the accounting trade in Baja, I was watching Liz, who was sitting on the other side of Luis having a drink with another Mexican. She was exotic looking, with long red hair, honey skin, full lips, dreamy eyes, and an hourglass figure. I kept stealing glances at her, and when her companion was not looking, she returned my gazes with smiles.

Luis got into Mexican-American politics and NAFTA, while I continued to watch Liz and her friend. I was especially interested in her chest. It wasn't all that big, maybe 34D, but the bar came right to nipple-level, and in order to avoid squishing her boobs against the bar, she would periodically arch her back, take a deep breath, and in that manner heave her boobs up and onto the bar where they rested like two ripe mangos on a platter. Then she's make a gesture or laugh, and they'd fall off and she'd have to repeat the process all over again.

I was becoming hypnotized by her boobs sitting on the bar and then falling off. I tried not to stare, but she could she I was looking. Luis kept rambling, now talking about his trip to Cuba and Europe. I wondered if Liz's companion would ever leave.

Finally, he did and she got up and wandered into the dance area. I got my first glimpse of the entire package, in a bare-midriff top and hiphugger gold lame Capri pants. No one particular part was outstanding, but the whole package was very nice.

A little later, as Luis was lamenting his difficulties in learning English, Liz resumed her seat next to Luis, and I, being a total pig, interrupted Luis to say hello and get her name. (It was clear the Luis was very shy and was going to have to consume an entire sixpack before he had the huevos to say hello to any of the ladies.) When Luis went to the bano, we changed the seating arrangement so that she was next to me, and we had a nice chat.

She is from Cali, Columbia, a place she says is reknown for beautiful women who love the beach. Many Mexicans mistake the Cali women for ladies from Acapulco and Veracruz because of their honey skin and exotic looks. I bought Liz a drink ($5.75, not a bad price considering regular mixed drinks cost about the same), and she eventually steered the conversation around to explaining my list of options. For $100 we could spend an hour together at the Hotel Leon, which was $30 extra. She knew the Zaragoza well, and was happy to accompany me to my room, but I would have to pay a bar fine and get her a taxi back to the ML. The bar fine, like Anthony's in Ensenada, was $15, or any combination of ladies' drinks and dinero that equalled $15 (i.e., $15 cash, or one drink and $10, two drinks and $5, or three drinks and a "get out of jail free" card). I don't know of the bar fine is waived if you go to the Leon.

I paid the $10 to the cashier, who wrote out a card, which Liz gave to the doorman before we left. We walked the two blocks to the hotel, and spent a leasurely and enjoyable hour there. Nothing really exciting to report, except that I did save her some embarrassment by pointing out that my travel-size can of Gillette Foamy was not toothpaste. In retrospect, the vision of this exotic gal with shaving cream all over her mouth at 2 a.m. might have been memorable, but I was trying to be a gentleman.

Afterward, I called the front desk and he ordered a taxi. I gave Liz $5 and we kissed goodnight. Before she left, she gave me her cell phone number and suggested we have dinner and go to the hotel and skip ML. I suspect many of these ladies are interested in getting a regular customer list of upscale gentlemen. It's a logical and cost-efficient way for them to do business, since none of them seem to be high-volume.

All in all, a pleasant and relaxing experience that didn't require me to hike ten blocks to the ZN or deal with the rateros and assorted riffraff you encounter there (including all you "corriente" types). I suppose the $122 I spent for about two hours of conversation and sex was within the normal parameters for other clubs.

If you're considering a sojourn to ML, keep in mind that things really don't get going until late (Liz worked until 5 a.m., and said the later it got, the more people were there), so if you turn in early, this isn't your place. Also, the selection is never more than about 25 women, as best I can tell, and they're all slightly older, so if you're looking for the young 'uns or require a large selection, don't bother.

But especially if you, like me, are "mas grande" and prefer your women that way, enjoy a smaller, quieter, more intimate atmosphere, want to bring the lady to your hotel room, and are prepared to forego the thirty minute sessions for a full hour on the first encounter, then you might find things to your liking at ML.

For the longest time, I would always poke me head (no pun) in there first before going to the zona to see if an uncovered gem might be there. Every time, I'd tell the taxi to wait so I could check it out. But, not once did I ever not come right back out.
Matiz is right that most of the chicas are women that are over 25. They seek "older, regular" clients, which are mostly Mexican. If you want good-body girl, then you won't ever find it in this place.
The only reason I can see going there is if you are worried about the "dangers" of the zona. IMO though, it is waste of time. Drinks are about the same as the strips, so you'd be better off going to those if you just looking for a place to hang out.

One of the best looking women I've ever been with in TJ was in ML, and I've been with one or two. She had model type looks and a great body, although I can't remember her name. After fending off a couple advances from a couple older, average looking women, I caught her eye and she came right over to where I was sitting at the bar. She seemed a little odd over drinks, but she was friendly enough and great looking, so we headed over to Hotel Leon for an hour.

In the room, it became apparent that this woman was high on something and her behavior became even stranger, especially in bed. It was the only time I've cut a session short and retreated for the shower. She joined me, started washing me and asked me if I was unhappy with her, so I told her the truth. Then she even asked me if I would come see her again. Sorry honey, not! Then she followed me back to the bar so I grabbed a cab outa there. I haven't been back and from the sounds of it, I haven't missed much.

If the place had more talent I'd probably prefer it to most of the zona bars for the reasons that Matiz described above quite well. But no matter what a bar is like, it's all about the chicas.

Matiz

Excellent portrait, sounds like this place was made for me. If I ever get a chance, maybe when someone goes on vacation, I'm there.

Hey SenorPano,

You missed out that night we were supposed to hook up...Ronin and I wandered over to ML right after Lord Black. In fact whenever I do a Revo cruise I always stop in ML to recover from popping into Isis and Unicornio and seeing what Boris Karloff would look like in drag. It's a nice change of pace, there are usually at least 3-5 really nice looking women and it's a nice civil atmosphere.

Redongdo, 19 times out of 20, your description of U. and Isis is right on. But it's that one out of twenty that keeps us masochists coming back. Friday afternoon, amid the Boris Karloff wanabees, were two incredible blondes who were dancing onstage at Unicornio together. It reminded me of why TJ is so special.

Maybe they'd gotten lost on their way to the Miss Tijuana pageant or something, but they were so beautiful, that the young gringos watching them just put dollars on their hip, like in the States. But being a hardened veteran, I knew better, and I conducted a thorough anatomical examination of both of them. As my exploration became more inventive, these two stunning women began to crawl all over me. Finding really beautiful dancers is an increasingly rare phenomenon at Unicornio, but when it happens, it's money well spent. You just don't find that type of recreation in the U.S.

Matiz,
Good report I think you captured ML well. The only that has changed is they use to have an unbelievably low bar fine of $3 a few years ago when I took part time bar girl to the VZ.

It seems that some of you have had better luck at ML than I have. I checked it out once and saw nothing but ugly TV's there. Of course, this was in the late afternoon. Maybe things change during the late hours. I may give it another try in a couple of weeks.

Matiz,

Obviously I'm one of those masochists as I always stop in to both clubs when wandering Revo. The only clubs on Revo I avoid are San Souci, Bambi, Peanuts & Beer, Zorro and that one called Catwalk or something. Also I seldom go into Madona's as outside of eye candy there really isn't anything there for me.

Redongdo, Catwalk is actually a nice comfortable place with friendly, attractive chicas. Problem is, like Penthouse, it doesn't open until 9:00 and doesn't really get going until 11-midnight.

Cantinflas, there are no TVs working in Mexico Lindo...at least not at night. The couple of times I've peaked in during the day, there were no hookers of any variety...just a few guys having a drink. You may have seen a couple of Bambi boyz wandering in from around the corner for a break. Great handle btw, wish I'd thought of that!

Cantiflas,
On a late afternoon at Mexico Lindo I doubt if you would ever find a girl there. I don't think anyone starts until at least 8 PM.

The place use to have its share of superstars. I for one enjoyed it and I still like to go in there for a beer every now and then in the hopes of seeing a superstar.

Also as I have mentioned before on the board a lot of school teachers and secretaries use to fly up from points south in Mexico. It was not uncommon for these semi amateurs to work for the two weeks they were on vacation. Some of these girls also had passports and it was not uncommon for them to suggest a meeting in San Diego.

I used to have a late dinner at La Costs, across the street from ML, before AB and CC were discovered by Americanos. After dinner I would cross the street to ML and have a drink. The bartenders knew me and I would tip them a couple of bucks. They would arrange for one or two of the girls to come early if you were interested. In the 60's ML was the place to be, although it has always been expensive. Most of the girls were well educated and spoke English.
Over the years many of these girls moved to CC and some became the trophy girls of the 70s and early 80s.
I still drop by the ML, looking for the right girl but she is never there. So I walk down to the Zona (walking off the beers) and look in CC before going to AB where I chat with my regulars. I like the atmosphere at AB since I dont go to TJ for a refined evening with a mature lady.

I stopped in Mexico Lindo several times over Easter weekend and found the quality of most of the ladies, to be lacking. Most were older and overweight. On my first trip there were two hotties, but they were occupied with some local gentlemen. I quietly drank a beer and was leaving when I was grabbed by the arm by a not very attractive 40 year old gordita. I made my escape. I returned the next night in hopes of talking to one of the hotties before they were taken. One of them was not there and the other one was singing along with the musician in the back of the club. The third night I returned the same girl was still singing, and I ordered a beer in hopes of talking with her when she finished. I was immediately set upon by a gordita named Rosie who was very insistant that I buy her a drink despite me telling her that I was not interested. To my surprise, the singer came and sat down next to me when she finished her set and asked me to buy her a drink. At this point, I was unsure whether or not she was a prostitute or a singer. I was soon to find out that she was both. Her name is Cecelia (sp?), she is blond, about 25, and quite pretty. She has a nice body, but I later found out that she wore a padded bra, reducing her breasts from C's to B's. She promised me a good time if I would take her to Hotel Leon. I told her I had my own room at Pueblo Amigo, and she said she would go there with me. She said she would spend three hours with me for $100. I thought that this was too good to be true, and it turned out that it was. We took a cab to P.A., I paid her the $100 at her request, and we proceeded to have a very good, unhurried, covered half and half session with, 69 and multiple positions. Even though her breasts were smaller than I liked, they were natural and nicely shaped. We had a very nice first session, and I was looking forward to an even nicer second, and maybe even a third. After about an hour while we were just basking in the afterglow, she got up and started getting dressed. When I asked what she was doing she said the hour was up and that if I wanted her to stay longer it would be more dinero. If she had been honest up front that $100 would be for only an hour, I would have gladly accepted and would probably have paid her more to stay longer. Because she had lied to me, I became angry and the session turned into a not so good experience. Her chosing to lie to me was a complete turnoff. Unless M.L. gets better in the summer, I would not return. I did wait until around midnight to go there, as I had been led to believe that was the best time to go. If anyone knows differently, please advise.

I don't get the the attraction of ML. I have been in and out a couple of times after bringing a "friend" to her cab in Centro. I have been there at late hours and the girls are just ugly. Why would anybody consider this place if the Zn is just 10 minutes away?
Is there anything secret, what I am not getting?

Robertx
First of all ML is just a shawdow of its former self. Five years ago IMHO it had the best looking women in Tijuana.

You say go to the zona instead, but for some of us I can't stand to go inside of Adelita's or CC on a crowded Friday or Saturday night. I can't stand the loud music, not being able to carry on a conversation with a girl, and the large crowds.

I will spend some time in the zona,but I like other less crowded bars. For me most of these are outside the zona, but a few are also in the alley.

Often times on the way back to my hotel (Villa Zaragoza), I will check into ML and my other bars. I enjoy the relatively quietness and the fact you can carry on a conversation in the bar.

Also there are some non professionals that come up to ML every now and then. These are school teachers and secretaries that come up from the south to work one or two weeks. These girls have sisters and or relatives that work there and it is easy for the girls to make some decent money on their vacation.

I had the fortune about three years ago to hook up with one of these teachers and it was one of the best sessions in Tijuana.

I also like stopping in this place on the way back to my room. For me the place is relaxing and one of these days I hope to see the beauties that uses to populate the place.

There are times I go to the zona and never once go into Adelita's or CC at night. I enjoy the beautiful women and like to watch and admire them from the sidewalk. Staying in Adelita at the crowded times for more than 15 minutes is a chore.

Hey Avltourist!

I know Cecilia and had a similiar experience to yours. I think she's another chica with a good amiga named "Crystal" as she was real chatty and even a little argumentative in the beginning when were working out the pay first policy she wanted to enact.

BTW I only paid 60 bucks, but it was for a 2 hour 1 hour and not a 3 hour 1 hour LOL!

Redongdo-
Sorry to hear that you had a similar experience. I don't have anyone to blame for the amount that I paid her, other than myself. This is the first T.J. puta that I didn't try to bargain with. I paid what she asked, because I stupidly thought, after having read what zona chicas get for sessions longer than 30 minutes, that I was trully getting a bargain. She would be an o.k. chica, if she were more honest.

Fellas, she(Cecilia) did the same thing to me.
This was several months ago. She told me 3 hours for $100 and I paid at my hotel room. I found her more attractive in the bar than my hotel room. After the session(about an hour), she said she had to go and started putting on her clothes. I was not very pissed though, because I wanted her to go...I did not find her very attractive naked. She says she is 25, but I'd say she is more like 30. I told her if she wanted to go after lying to me, that she should leave immediately and find her own way back.
I have not been back at Lindo since because I think the women are lame there.

Friday night I found myself in the unusual position of being in Tijuana on business. This meant that I had my choice of staying in the same hotel as a client (Villa Zaragoza), or a nearby hotel, so I chose the Motel Leon so that I could walk around without the client running into me.

We spent about 6 hours doing heavy drinking on Revo and we even went to Adelitas (!) although I couldn't take any of the chicas up on their offers while the client was with me.

About midnight, I dropped the client off at his hotel, and I went back to Motel Leon. Except that I first checked out Mexico Lindo. The bar was filled with very nice looking, albeit older women. Most were somewhat upper class, you got the impression of wealthier women now down on their luck.

One shark came over and wrapped her arms around and started making offers to go up to the hotel. She claimed that she was really, reall drunk. A friend of hers sat down next to us and the shark offered for both to go to the hotel with me. I have been suckered enough times to stay away from this kind of crap.

At any rate I quickly noticed a chica sitting off by herself, and started talking to her. The chica was named Carina from Mazatlan, although this turned out to be really Culiacan. She eventually made the offer of $100, and immediately accepted my counter of $60. There was no mention of TLN or the usual 3 hours, but I was only up for a quickie and then nap time, since I was dead.

The bar fine was $5, even though I had only bought her a single drink.

We went up to the room, where she complained about the cold. It *was* cold, both in the room, and down in the street. We quickly snuggedled up under the covers, and spent the next hour warming each other up.

A good experience for $60.

Mexico Lindo IMO is a welcome change of pace if you don't limit your age range to 18-22 year old chicas. What a pleasure to walk into a nice QUIET INTIMATE space and meet some more cultivated mujeres...some of whom can execute deep conversation in English.

The downside is that these chicas are aggressive in an environment where every female eye in the joint is on you. You've got to master the art of graciously dispatching the ones you don't want to hang in for the opportunity with the one you do.

Explorer, some questions:

Aside from the cold, how were the all night accomodations at Motel Leon and at what price?

Was there actually no heat or was it cold because you left the heat off when you were out?

No big deal at $5, but why a bar fine since Leon is the regular hotel for ML sessions?

Erip,
The bar fine is the same no matter what hotel you use. I have taken some of these girls to the VZ and I have seen gringos take these guys for a party in their van.

Also I see a lot of these women hopping into cars with what appears to be some of the wealthier mexican clientele. These girls don't return in an hour.

Somebody indicated that the bar fine is based on how many drink you buy the girls - this was never the case before from my experience. The bar fine has been $5 for at least 5 years and five years ago IMHO Mexico Lindo put Adelita's and CC to shame.

Error,
Gringos above taking these girls for a party in their van.

Greetings....

I'm new to this board, so I want to add my contribution.

I've been going to ML for the past 13 years. I learned about it from a lady I'd been seeing who was working in Sans Souci long before it developed into a TS bar. She mentioned she was changing locations as ML was much more upscale, cleaner, friendlier and safer. And you know, although my friend has long since departed TJ, I still drop by ML to take a look and usually depart with a beautiful lady to the Hotel Leon across the street. Yes, sometimes the talent can be lacking and seems somewhat stale, but then there are the times when simply a beautiful and talented lady is making herself known. Like the posts above, if you're looking for a young hardbody, this is probably not your first choice.

san souci was almost an exlusive tv bar at least 20 years ago when I first went to tijuana. She must be pretty old

Ahora....Twenty years ago there were TS's at Sans Souci, but I would not characterize it as almost exlusively TS. The percentages were much smaller back then vs. now, that is for sure. Now the percentage is very high. I agree with that.

Twenty to thirty years ago most of the action was on Revolucion. I did a lot of girls from there back then and only got "stung" once. Now the odds would be very high of having the "surprise".

I see more real women there now. Back then they actually posted a sign that said transvesti show

Ahora007-

Twenty years ago you would have been 13 years old and you were going to TJ on a regular basis where you would know that San Souci was an exculsive TV bar back then.

I left home when I was 14 and came to san diego so yes 20 years ago I was going to tijuana every day.

I wish I was here when I was that age.
I missed out on so many good times.
what was the exchange rate like back then ?
like 20 pesos to 1 dollar ?

Locals tell me TJ is much tamer and is a ghosttown compared to many years back.

oh well i missed the boat but caught the ferry instead

Milky

It was better than that, I can remember it being 22 (old) pesos to the dollar then it flew up in the eighties to something like 3,000 to the dollar. Then they came up with the new peso and dropped the zeros, when was that, about 1994 or so? So it was 3 to one for a while and now what is it, something like 9.5 to the dollar? Translated in old pesos= 9,500 pesos to the dollar.

Milkman....You really did not miss out on very much by not being in TJ twenty to thirty years ago. Revolucion was crazy all right. But La Zona Norte was nothing like it is today.

We used to get roaring drunk at the Long Bar drinking beer by the pitchers ($1.25). Then we would hit the bars. I remember lots of guys in the bars, especially Navy guys. There were some pretty big fights I remember that would spill out into the streets. The Navy eventually barred their guys from going to TJ and the cops started their big crackdowns on the bars. Tap beer also disappeared.

Those were the glory days for the sleaze bars on Rev. I had some amazing times. But, I would not trade those times for the ones I am having now. TJ is still a hot place to be despite any disadvantages it has.

Ahora....I remember the sign that said "transvesti show", but I never remember seeing any special sort of show. I always wondered about that.

One thing for sure is, there were a lot more customers and girls and tv's in those bars years ago. There were some pretty crazy stuff going on. Those bars are almost dead now, and mostly the TV's are the only ones left. The real girls move on pretty quickly when they see there is very little business now.

Me and my TJ trip buddy had dinner at La Costa the other night and afterwards thought we would walk across the street and venture on into the infamous Mexico Lindo. All the postings are correct. What the hell happened to this place? It used too be jumping before. Where did everyone go? There was only about five people in there. Two girls were sitting alone at the tables, and I'm assuming they were working girls. Had one beer, then split. Nothing new to report about this place. Shame really, it had such potential.

Master Bates.

I went there 2 or 3 years ago, having heard the old reports and nothing of the new. I met a nice girl (older, overpriced, decent session). But it wasn't the kind of experience I wanted to repeat. I prefer the Zona generally, and the Unicorno for that rare sleazy "gem." I've never looked back.

Warning about a former ML con-girl now at AB. Her name is Cecilia is mentioned a few times in above posts. I saw her in AB last month, and keeps lowering her price to about $30. She speaks decent English is a real-pro at saying the right things. She ordered a drink for herself and expected me to pay for it...not! I told the waiter to take it away and she got real pissed and walked away. I would avoid her at all cost b/c she will end up screwing you (money-wise).

Pollo,

Bock Bock Bock! HAH! Perfect handle....ok..no flames everyone but this is really an overreaction.

Cecilia is kind of a scammer, but it's so easy to see through you hardly need to issue warnings against her.

Whatever she offers she basically comes through with...maybe a slight embellishment with the time. When I went with her when she was still at ML she said two hours but she still split when we were done...which was just over an hour....but we did everything we discussed and it was actually a fun time.

She's a little wacked...but shit who isn't? 30 bucks? Shit dude you missed out on one of the all time fun rides for half price.

Of course her amiga "Crystal" get's in the way...either that or she has a severe case of ADD.

Red Dong! Long time no chat !

You're the one hiding dude!

Mr.Bill had brought up México Lindo in a thread on the México chat. Anyway it just got me to thinking about stopping by there again. I like the quietness of the bar.

The last time a was there must have been three years ago when I picked up a really good looking woman for that club(for any club really). I don't remember her name, but she did give me a pretty good session(2 hours for $100). I don't think I had to pay a bar-fine

Last time I was there the chicas used Hotel Leon, but would be able to go any ware. I had a room at Hotel Super Ocho so that where we went(with no problem from management).

Has anyone been there lately? Anything good there? How much are ficha drinks now?


-snapper-

Two months ago I walked in at 1030 pm and there were no girls and three guys in the place.

Went in last week for a quick beer with a Mexican attorney friend. There were 2 or 3 girls (ugly) sitting around. The mexican friend said the place used to be a big PRI hangout with the honchos throwing alot of money at the girls. When Vega (the Pannista) got elected 4 years ago the place dried up, and has never recovered. Sure looked pitiful when we were there.

I went in there a few weeks ago when i had some kill to time. I was shocked to see a bunch of hot looking girls around the ages of 25 and up and all locals. The girls were dressed casually and there was about 8 of them which fills this place up -lol
No pressure to buy dwinks and just looked around offered my Padrote services and when I didnt get any responses I left.

If someone is looking for a change this place is it.

Good Luck
Leche de Padrote

I poked my head in about 2 AM on a friday night a couple weeks back, and it was like the back benchers at Adelitas (the undoable ones that just sit there and take up space) had all migrated here. I don't think there was a 'chica' under 30 in the whole bar, and nobody under 150 lbs. either. The 1 block round trip walk from Revolucion was a HUGE waste of time.

Did someone say "nobody under 150 lbs"? Better head on over there and check out the scene!

Master Bates.

Anyone seen Margarita de Cancun / Acapulco in here lately. 41yo, 5' 135lbs, long black hair, Perfect CC that show well in the showroom, decent English, no smoke...??

garcias, ea$y

I know her daughter.

Is she eighteen years old?

Ben knows the daughter but really wants to get to know the granddaughter

What's the latest? I used to go there a lot. Mayra (sorta gordita white with green eyes) who lived in the León in room 206 used to wear me out. We went to the Parador a lot. She was so into anal, too. I remember Laura, who broke a window at the León and Patricia who was a deadringer for Bunny Bleu. I thought about Bunny when I used to do her, and when I got to do Bunny in Van Nuys I thought of Patricia! The last time I was I did not have a good time.

This bar is being remodeled and should open by March of 2009.