Well, I was in AB yesterday afternoon waiting for my favorita to show up but alas she was off for the day (only found this out by asking a friend of hers).

Anyway, I spent much of my waiting time observing what was going on in the club. I noticed many guys approaching girls and many of the guys not ending up going up with the girl to the hotel.

Examples:
1) Monger 1 approached about 4-5 of the best looking gals in the bar. He was attractive and struck up at least 3-5 minute conversations with all of the gals. But ended up walking away each time.
2) Monger 2 was a professional, well-dressed man who seemed nice. Approached several beautiful chicas and spoke briefly and no deals.

I'm a decent looking guy. I usually just hang out and play it cool in the bar and usually get asked by numerous gals if I want to go upstairs including some of the hotties. I'm always respectful and nice and when it comes to price it's always in the $50 vicinity.

Since my favorita was off I went upstairs with a beautiful chica. I noticed she was approached numerous times and many guys walked away disappointed. So, I asked her what happened with these guys. She said in her limited english.......no money or just want to trade drinks for sex. Is this what happens?

So, my question is why are many of these guys getting shot down? Are they low-balling on the price? Are they being rude with the girls? Do they want freebies? What's going on?

I've been going to AB for 5 years now and have never been turned down and the only time I leave a girl I've just approached is if she has a terrible demeanor or is asking an outrageously inflated price which is not negotiable.

So, for you guys who have walked away from the deal before. What's going on?

Just curious.

Bad vibes is the main reason I walk away. Money is not a question allthough I once told Sylvia no when she quoted me $80. I like a smile and a direct look, I don't like gum chewers ( I once told Alejandra to park her gum or I would not go upstairs).
There has to be a positive reaction when I approach a girl. If not I walk away.

I see it all the time. I wonder why the deal doesn't happen. My guess is that the guy is to low on price and the chica says no. Me, I take a long time to decide who I'm going to do that day. IF she is someone I haven't done yet and get a good vibe after a drink, price is not important, it's either 50 or 60. If it's more than 60, I usually walk, not because I don't want to pay that much, but it can be a red flag.

Her price is higher, she charges more cause she gets lots of business, that leads me to suspect a poor session MAY be upcoming. The attitude is most important. IF I get a whiff of attitude along with higher price, then it's bound to be bad.

One thing I NEVER do is walk up and start with price.....NEVER. Always, a smile and how are you....what is your name....blah blah blah.....have a drink?? Then I decide. Seems simple. It works. 200 times down, I can count bad sessions on one hand, actually they weren't really bad, just marginal compared to the average.

They didn't get shot down, they just balked from a potential business deal which might not go in their favor. It's teejay and they screwed anybody for greens. You get shot down only if you're a filthy drunk-ass cruel monger.

Some would walk if any or all of these isn't met:
1. Do you speak English?
2. Can I pay you..$$$?
3. Do you allow pix in the room?
4. Do you like to kiss?
5. Would you blow me bared?
6. Do you take up the ass?
7. Can I splatter your face when I'm ready?
8. Or at least would you swallow?

Others balked if the following signs are revealed:
1. Hey, I'm talking to you. Look at me while I'm talking to you.
2. What the f..k, I just ordered you a drink just a minute ago.
3. Damn, you're one dead fish boring chick. How about at least try to talk for once?
4. Shoot, you looked good from far away, but I wouldn't even consider touch you, not to mention stick it in.

Hey, there are genuine nice and easy going mongers, but there're also ultra devil cunts out there. When you're paying for a service, you're entitled to any possible requests that is a part of the services as long as you're requesting them in a considerable maner. Trying figure out what just occured in a puta bar is next to impossible. I hope my inputs help. Others might have more legitimate answers.

The guy may have boned all of them already and was just chit chatting. In his 4 digit quest, he may need to save his cum and dinero.

d'Art's Top 5 Disqualifiers:

5. Body language (crossed arms, foot tapping, etc)
4. Won't sit down for a drink first
3. Doesn't smile
2. Doesn't talk
1. Asks me upstairs before we know each other's names.

The above list aren't instant disqualifiers on their own, but they serve as good indicators from my experience.

Like Athos, I've done most of the good looking girls that didn't continually fail the d'Art screening test, so I often will make rounds chatting briefly with the friendlier ones.

In my 30+ years of mongering (yeah, I'm an old fooker) I've seen a lot of guys exhibit strange attitudes when mongering.

Too many guys, either through guilt or a false sense of superiority, talk to the girls like they are shit. Mongering without manners is a no-win situation.

Others are so focused on getting a lower price (because they are so handsome, well endowed or whatever) turn the girls off. We've all seen these guys, who try and score in TJ for $10 or $20 below the going rate and always claim that it was the most beautiful chica in the place and that the sex was magnificent. You can smell the bullshit across the room and the girls can detect it as well.

Drinking. Too many guys dring too much when mongering and just like you don't really want some drunk chica slobbering all over you, they feel the same about us, no matter how handsome or well-endowed we are (or think we are).

Too serious. I've seen some guys who were mongering who were simply scary. They were too focused on the score and I can see why the chicas would be afraid to go with them.

Reputation. They may be regulars who have a repuation of being rough, or smell bad, or something that we cannot see.

Just some thoughts.

Many moons ago, under the reference section (GB) I posted a link a beginner's Guide Mostly the UK scene - Still holds true for other places

Price is not the issue!! If she doesn't do BBBJ and her attitude is bad, then that's when you see me walking to the next conquest.I am a very good looking due with excellent hygene and pocket full of Benjamins, so when I walk away from the chica, it's really her loss. I always treated the girls with the utmost respect. I always offered to buy them drinks and get to know them as a friend, and when you feel that vibes that she is not the one with the attitude in bed, then that's when you walk. I hope this will help!!

Sorry but it doesn't help at all, mr good looking w/a pocket full of Benjamins.

The thread is really why chicas get shot down.
My number 1 peeve is a chica asking me to go upstairs right within 2 min of conversation.
My number 2 peeve is looking deep into hardcore eyes. Number 3 peeve is not being able to converse, no chemistry between me and chica, no warmth. Number 4 is no sense of humor from chica, I just can't make her smile. Number 5 she won't have her face close enough to my face so frenching is unlikely. Other possible reasons: too many beers, does not smell nice, looks dirty, 12 min fuck with guys standing in line, too expensive for her looks, has been working in ZN for over 6 months.

Athos, I totally agree with you 100%
As for Dickjohnson, I am not quite sure what you mean. Drop me an e-mail in my inbox. Thanks, Dickjohnson. Merry Christmas to all of you in the land of sin.

Athos you just eliminated 97% of TJ chicas from consideration. I can only think of 3, maybe 4, AB/CC chicas who don't break those rules on a consistant basis.

Mav
That's my only problem in ZN, I have a hard time getting laid these days.

Mr Fuerte, perhaps I misread your as being stuck on yourself. I apologize.

Mav. your right LOL. I guess Athos goes to Brazil or somewhere these days.

Some chicks will act like they shot you down in front of others when in fact you turn them down.

On another occasion a hear a bunch or Korean guys talking outside of CC about this really good looking girl who was so stuck up and shot them down. She didn't turn me down and I had my best session in CC up til then.