I hear stories of newbbies that they feel like a kid in a candy store the first time in Adelitas Bar. Well after some 20+ trips to TJ and AB over the past 4 to 5 years, I STILL feel like a kid in a candy store each and every time I walk into AB. Maybe beacuse I'm married and only get it at home twice a month if lucky.

I have just recently joined CH and wish I had known about it before. Instead I had to learn everything on my own.

I have family living in TJ for some 8 years now, who until a month ago, could not come to the US. That was the excuse to my wife for all those TJ trips alone I used to take. I guess I'll have to come up with new excuses.

Most of my trips to AB have always been during the day or very early evening. However, in July 2004 I had the opportunity to go to TJ for two days(My wife was on vacation with her parents).

I tell you, I had the time of my life. Seven girls in a 24 hr period.

It all started when I got to TJ on a Friday night at around 8 pm. I normally don't park on the US side because I need my car to get to my family's house in Playas de Tijuana. I park on the huge parking lot on 2nd and Revolución. The car is always relatively safe and there are many nicer than mine cars around, so I fugure I'm OK. This time I decided to talk to the parking attendants and get a new local perspective on the sex scene in TJ. I speak Spanish fluently so it's easy for me to bond with local people. The guys told me that Adelitas was probably a good choice. But they also said that if I wanted some girls with less "mileage" I should go over to Madonna's a couple of blocks up. They said the women were much better, but they were also a lot more expensive. Being of the "I'll try everything once" mentality myself I decided to go to Madonna's and check it out. Madonna's is on 3rd or 4th street (I'm not sure) off of Revolucion. It is not quite on the corner but maybe 1 or 2 stores west, there is no way tou will miss it from Revolucion. It has neon lights and all. It looks much like a Topless bar in the US. There is a $10 cover charge to get inside.

Once inside, I proceeded to sit on a table near the dance stage. As I looked around I could see a small clientele and maybe 8 or nine hot girls. Certaily just as hot or hotter than the hottest AB girl. Now I wasn't quite sure that I could get any action since the guys at the parking lot told me these girls normally aren't allowed to leave the place to go to a hotel. You would normally have to wait until she is off her shift and still see if she wants to go with you. These women make their money pretty much the way dancers do in the US, they charge anywhere from $10 to $40 for table dance or private room dance.

I was sitting for five minutes when the hottest woman I have ever seen in person comes up to me to sit with me. I wish I could remember her name but she looked like a miss universe I'm not kidding. She told me she was half Venenzuelan and half Hondurean. What a mix, she had the looks of a MIss Venenzuela and the passion and sex drive of Central American women. She was tall, short dark hair, hazel eyes, light skin tone and the sexiest lips I've ever seen. We talked for a while and then she invites me for a $40 private naked dance. I say yes without much hassitation. We go to a small room in the back that has no door, just a black courtain. She strips completely, except for the shoes, and out come the most perfect D cup pair of natural breasts I have ever touched, or seen for that matter. She let me sucked her tits, ass and shaved pussy. She also had a nice firm ass and not an ounce of fat on her body.

I swear this felt like the shortest song I had ever heard and just like that the session was over. As she was getting dressed I told her that now I was gonna have to go to AB to cool me down. She told that if I wanted to she could rape me right there and then, exact words (In Spanish though). I asked her how much and she said $300, I laughted and said no way, AB girls charge $60 and I pay $100 at massage parlors in the US. She said ok, $100 plus the $40 I owed her for the dance. She went outside and told some guy not to let anybody bother us, I suspect she gave him a bribe. After an amazing BJ, she sat on the bench with her legs open, I got on my knees and f-cked the hell out of that pussy. The height was just perfect.

After the session I wanted to get her phone# so I could call her and get together the next day before her shift started at 8pm. She said she would give it to me but I sat down in the main area for 30min and she never came out. I left Madonna's and went to AB.

I was still so horny and thinking about the Miss Universe beauty that I'm not even sure what the two girls I did after at AB looked like. The next day I went to AB at around 3pm. Right away I saw A gorgeous girl from Jalisco. Long black hair, big black eyes, huge fake boobs, and a killer body. We went up to the room and let me tell you, what a waste! She was good looking but her attitude sucked! She hardly let me suck her tits and was so cold she reminded me of my wife. Anyway, thank god she was the first of the day or I would have lost my erection. I went back downstairs and sat at the bar for a while, the next two girls I got were pretty good, but I won't get into details. It's the last girl I got that I want to talk about. I make it a habbit not to ask girls for their name or at least not remember it, just in case I talk in my sleep and my wife is awake. Anyway, this last girl was from Veracruz and she comes up to me(for a change) and starts to talk to me and bitting and sucking my ear. She says that she has been watching me and that I had been quite busy. I told her I really had no intention of going up because with my last girl I barely could get it up. She said no problem, if she couldn't get me to get it up then I would only pay her $30. I said ok. She wasn't as pretty as some of the other girls and to tell you the truth I probably would never had walk up to her, but she had a #1 attitude. I had an awesome session. I got a BBBJ that after some time and concentration I was able to get an erection (remember 7 girls in 24 hrs) I did her in many positions and had a very hard time finishing until she had to finish me off with her hand. After she even took a shower with me!

Too bad I had to work early on Sunday, not that my wallet could afford another day.

I LOVE TJ!!

Ok guys, here are a few lessons I have learned over the past:

1. I'm not sure about other guys but at least for me this is what I think. Women from Jalisco are very hot and sexy but cold as ice. It has happened to me 5 times already. Three since I've been mongering in TJ and twice while in college with regular girls. One was a student and the other a cafeteria worker in the dorms. The student I dumped after the second time we had sex and the worker I never saw again when the year ended.

So guys, when at AB always ask the girl where she is from before you go up. (I always ask after, and then tell myself no wonder)

If she tells you she is from Jalisco, buyer beware! She will most likely be quite hot but she will surely be cold as ice and have a nasty attitude. I have yet to see a girl from Jalisco that is not hot, my assessment is that since they are cold by nature, they must be hot looking to attract first timers. After all, would you go back to the same cold puta and spend your hard earned money? Not me, no matter how hot she looks. I used to refuse to believe that the girls' origin had anything to do with their attitudes, but can't argue with experience.

Best girls: Sinaloa, Veracruz (very horny women, much like Cubans) Sonora, Mexico city.


2. I know it's hard to walk into AB and sit at the bar and watch for a while. We all see the girl we want and go for it. Some times it's good, sometimes it's not so good.

Some of the best girls I've had have been some that actually approach me. Normally they might be the ones that are not in so much demand and therefore go the extra mile to please a customer. Most of us don't just go all the way to AB to have just one girl. right? So after 1 or 2 hotties, try one of the not so popular women, I assure you you won't regret it.


3. Why the hell would anybody try one of the SG in TJ? Most of them look like they came straight from the Mayan era and are straight UGLY. The best looking SG is nowhere near the worst AB girl. After all, that's why they are on the street; because no club will have them.

I LOVE TJ!

Not only that LL but the SG's try to charge just as much for their services which makes it even more galling. I mean 5 extra for this position, 10 to suck tits etc. I am surprised they don't charge to take off their fucking socks. Also, i feel that as far as the risk to catch something bad and bring it back to wifey you are much more likely to catch it from a SG IMHO. 7 in 24? Wow you must be raw. Your a true AB warrior!!

The BG vs SG has been an endless debate.
I happen to think that NO SG can compete with the best of AB.

In all the years of going to TJ I have never met a girl who said she was from Jalisco.

Fucking a hot stripper in Madonna's for $100?
I would never paid any more and you have proved what I have always said that yes it could be done and is done often at that price. Hell even at the LA SRVN it was possible before they changed management and became rip offs.

The only strip clubs worth visting are ones like CH2 in Vegas where songs are a full 4-5 minutes
not cut at exactly 1 minute like at SR clubs

Paying $140 for a quick fuck standing up in Madonna plus paying $10 just to get in shows me what you say has no value.

Experienced guys don't pay $10 at Madonnas..especially nowadays when there is no one in there.

Sg are ugly and dirty. Get the fuck real dude. Take a cruise down the alley and tell me there ain't hot chicas down there. good service...hell you speak Spanish..you don't know what your missiong. don't be knocking shit if you never tried it. 5 years of TJ once or twice a month don't make you an expert by any stretch of the imagination.

Right Max...we know. you're just too nice of a guy to say it but I'm not a nice guy.

Maximus writes:
"In all the years of going to TJ I have never met a girl who said she was from Jalisco."

Guadalajara is the capital of Jalisco. I suspect they simplify things for gringos who speak minimal spanish.

and for Gringos who know little about Mexican geography or who don't take the time to look it up

anyway thanks for the info

In that case I have not had any problems with chicas from GDL/Jalisco

"I happen to think that NO SG can compete with the best of AB"

Of course that doesn't stop you from doing them verdad or is that one of your New Year's Resolutions?

Of course everyone that knows me or pays attention here knows I do like a couple and I do go with them when other mongers don't get in my way or make comments to ruin my good time.

Of course I never said I don't like all SG's.
I just said they can't compete body wise with the best of AB which they can't.

Like a Ferrari competing with a V.W. It just isn't going to happen. Especially in the ass department the SG's are quite overmatched. I have seen a few SG's that are decent but boy there are many dogpound candidates out there.

Maximus
You made me laugh out loud about Jalisco.

Pecs82001

First of all if you had seen this girl at Madonna's I'm sure you would have paid even more dude. I'm talking MISS UNIVERSE material! I'm seriously not kidding! Even at strip clubs here in the US I have seen few that compare.

Now I had no idea what Madonna's was gonna be like. I had never been there. But $140 for that kind of piece of ass is well worth it. I suggest next time you go you try it, or are you too cheap to spend $10. Hopefully, my Miss Universe will be there and then we'll talk.

As far as what I say has no value just because I paid $10 at Madonna's...your fucking high dude!
You're gonna talk to me as far as value! Take a poll here at CH and I guarantee you 99% will say SG are not a better value than AB girls. Now, I never said they were dirty...just UGLY. However, I am aware that one man's trash is another man's treasure, so for this I do apologize if I offended you. Go ahead and keep paying $20 for rushed, misionary, no tit sucking, tit grabbing, or tit seeing for that matter unless you pay $10 or $20 more. Ah, did I mention the fucking rooms these girls work out of are DIRTY and most, if not all, don't even have a bathroom or shower? So what are we up to? $20+$20=$40 you're gonna tell me you rather pay $40 to an INDIA than $60 to a beauty at AB? Where's your value dude?

I never said I haven't try a SG. I did once, an 18 year old dark haired, dark skinned beauty that forgot to charge me for the condom. I'll try everything once, so I can knock shit because I've tried it! Not like you...go to Madonna's dude!

White boys walking in the alleys....you're asking for trouble.

Pecs82001

First of all if you had seen this girl at Madonna's I'm sure you would have paid even more dude. I'm talking MISS UNIVERSE material! I'm seriously not kidding! Even at strip clubs here in the US I have seen few that compare.

Now I had no idea what Madonna's was gonna be like. I had never been there. But $140 for that kind of piece of ass is well worth it. I suggest next time you go you try it, or are you too cheap to spend $10. Hopefully, my Miss Universe will be there and then we'll talk.

As far as what I say has no value just because I paid $10 at Madonna's...your fucking high dude!
You're gonna talk to me as far as value! Take a poll here at CH and I guarantee you 99% will say SG are not a better value than AB girls. Now, I never said they were dirty...just UGLY. However, I am aware that one man's trash is another man's treasure, so for this I do apologize if I offended you. Go ahead and keep paying $20 for rushed, misionary, no tit sucking, tit grabbing, or tit seeing for that matter unless you pay $10 or $20 more. Ah, did I mention the fucking rooms these girls work out of are DIRTY and most, if not all, don't even have a bathroom or shower? So what are we up to? $20+$20=$40 you're gonna tell me you rather pay $40 to an INDIA than $60 to a beauty at AB? Where's your value dude?

I never said I haven't try a SG. I did once, an 18 year old dark haired, dark skinned beauty that forgot to charge me for the condom. I'll try everything once, so I can knock shit because I've tried it! Not like you...go to Madonna's dude!

White boys walking in the alleys....you're asking for trouble.

First of all dude go to TJAmigos site and read my post there and my rep there DUDE. Read the post about me. Cheap is not in my vocabulary. Imagine paying $140 for a AB or CC girl. You don't think you would get better service than the Madonna girl? You telling me there is no one better looking in AB or CC than the Madonna girl.

Good for you. So you try one SG and she's burns your ass cuz your a rookie and don't know whats up about TJ. You may speak Spanish but the streets are a different game. Even in Madonna..for $140 did you get GFE. Hell No...For $140 you get GFE and the works at any club with a fox or maybe a TLN.

Tj is all game..I don't pay $10 at Madonnas cuz the Manager gave me a VIP pass so its free and I never buy them stupid ass $60 or $20 dances. Just sit and drink and get my dick rubbed for free with the little chicas I sit with.

Take a poll here? Go to the tjamigo site and talk a poll from guys that go there daily or weekly or that live there. They are the true mongers not guys like you who go once or twice a month do you thing a split. Sure the SG use flea bag hotels. But you think all do? You think AB hotel is so hot? Lot of dudes including myself stay at Cascadas and bring the chicas there. Advantage there is you don't get a knock after 20 min like at AB or CC.. They take their time no rush...hell of a lot of advantages.

Anyways, you're closed minded and thats kewl...think that its dangerous in the ally. Just less gringos that get in the way.

Pecs

I did get GFE and was with Miss Universe for 40min. And she was better looking than anything at AB an CC even. You don't understand, I am not saying the service was necessarily better than at AB, specially for $140, but she was a great Trophy Fuck.
AB is still my favorite place in terms of value, gourgeous chicas at a reasonable price.

Like I said: "One man's trash is another man's treasure"

Feel free to pick up my trash pecs.

Spending $150 for one nut, less than 60 minutes, and utilizing a tiny booth made for a table dance, and then having to sit and wait for her to come back with her phone number is not a "GFE". But I don't know what type of girls you like. That is way too much money for Tijuana, I don't care who it is.

FYI, she didn't come back to give you her phone # because you had just paid her Salary for the next couple of nights and she was out the door on her way home.

Ok guys!

Maybe I did screw up, but it won't happen again. At least give me some credit for not going back there. From now on I'm sticking to AB, at least for the time being.

She was HOT however.

No pun intended LL2005. Every single person on this board that has been to a strip club has overpaid in my opinion, at least you got laid. She was probably from South America, as are most of the Girls in the true strip clubs in TJ and Mexico City. Any for any girl from South America that is a lot of money for a quick 40 minute bang. If you were to show up again I am sure she would be smiling from ear to ear.

"She told that if I wanted to she could rape me right there and then, exact words (In Spanish though). "

How do you say that in Spanish?

"Si quieres te puedo violar aquí mismo"

Latinlover2005,

No worries dude. Madonnas is a change of pace. If you feel you got the best bang (pun intended!) for your buck, then that is all that counts. Congrats. BTW, I have seen the Miss Universe you were talking about. You ain't kidding about her looks. She has to be one of the hottest girls I have ever seen, period!

Probably the finest sessions I ever had were in GDL. The fabulous Kenia - ahhh. I miss her.

I've had SGs and AB girls who practiced the same hygene, I've only had a few of either shower before/after with me. My favs shower with me.

In the looks department, I'll match an AB girl with a SG about 80% of the time. So AB does not have a monopoly on lookers. The trophy fucks will work where they have the best shot at the long green but in the sack, they are not much better (if at all) than the AB trophy fuck or SG hottie.

It all depends on how you kick your game. That's true anywhere. LL2005s experience was a good one for him and that's all that counts. We're in the land of "ymmv" and some of you are smart enough to have worked the system such that you don't pay the covers etc. Some of us are still a bit stoopid and have a bit to learn.

If I take the trophy fuck of my dreams for an hour and pay her $200. then it must have been worth it to ME at the time even though I might now have second thoughts about it. So it's more of a victory financially for the girl than it is a defeat for the john. In each case, both win. The guy gets his rocks off in a miss universe and she walks away with a few days pay.

Maybe LL2005 won't pay as much next time but it was worth it at the time he did pay it and I think that's the message. Not that he was stoopid for spending more than you or I would have. Fuck, if she was that hot, I might have paid out the $140. and I'd be less than honest if I didnl;t admit that.

Country John

Country John,
well said man! Thanx for your support. BTW, exactly where do you pic up good looking SG's? The ones I've seen are along the street west parallel to Revolucion (Not sure of the name) and going down towards Coahuila. Maybe there is another street where they are better looking.

Jdx911:

Do you happen to know Miss Universe's name? I wannna call Madonas and ask when she is working or if she's still there.

Country John:

What's GDL? Pardon my ignorance, I'm still new at this site and it was not in the dictionary.

Hey LL...putting all hostilities aside and here to give suggestions as through my connections with other mongers from other sites and my personal experiences...nobobdy knows everything about every part of TJ. There are SG experts,
AB experts, CC experts, strip club experts etc. I'm more of the small bar (LC, BT, etc) and SG type of guy.

Like Country John and I are similar in that at the time it is never too much too pay if you got your rocks off and enjoyed. Don't let anyone tell you different. Some of us like to bust each other balls but for example I had this beautiful stripper at LC that I wanted to fuck but she wanted $80. I refuse to pay on principle and cuz I didn't want my balls busted by my buds on paying too much. Well, they convinced me everytone does it, they just don't say. $10, 20 bucks big fucking deal. Well, she turned out to be my dream fuck and luckily I did her cuz the next day she went home for good.

Oh by the way...the hot SG are in the alley which is the street parallel to AB but behind it. Very safe to walk as the police station is right across the way and night time is better but check out Hotel Mini and Cascadas. they have some stunners.

Negotiate every little thing before you go up. Besos, sin ropa, 2 positions, suck, fuck, minutes, sucking tits DATY...etc