TJ trip report 1/28/05 to 1/30/05

Looking for trouble at Cascades – Finding none

Last week I put in my two cents re: the cascades joiner policy & boycott. I encouraged we step-up our uprising, and was met with mostly silence. Seems that the rest of you (except concarne) have moved onto silent acceptance of an unreasonable joiner fee arrangement. Well I figure I can only squeeze in two more weekends of mongering before the time requirements of tax season were going to prevent me from visiting the zona until after 4/15. So it was off to Cascades for an early weekend in TJ. My plan was to quickly take girls to my room back-to-back, and then balk when the joiner fee was about to be imposed. My plan was to cancel the second selected girl right on the spot when the fee was asked for, and not pass go and not (have her) collect 200 pesos, but instead to immediately take my business elsewhere, like directly across the street. My original plan also included performing this “righteous indignation act” again, either the second day or on the next trip, when taking my favorite (Isabel) up for repeats in the same day, maybe only a couple of hours apart. Plan for Step #2 was to again reject imposition of the joiner under the assertion that the same girl cannot be an extra girl.

I arrived at Cascades a little after 10:00 P.M. on Thursday night (1/27/05). I entered from the alley carrying a duffle bag and did my check-in from the lobby on the alley side telling the clerk that I wanted to stay the night. He asked what type of room I wanted, and raised his eyebrows when I said I wanted a double. He asked two beds? I said no, I only needed one bed. He asked how many people would be staying? I said just two, me and THE chica (not chicas). So he said it would be $40 dollars. I wrinkled my brow and asked “For a Thursday night? $40 U.S.?” He responded that that was the regular rate for a double room. I said OK then, and was assigned room 424. I gave an additional $10 deposit for the room card/key.

Room 424 was indeed a double room, with two double beds, two small closets at each end next to each bed, a sink in the middle of the room, with the bathroom behind the sink. I pulled out my little heater from my bag and began heating the room. I laid out two flavored condoms and an astroglide bottle by one bed and immediately marched back down the stairs for selection #1.

I did not see Isabel when I first walked in and checked-in. But now as I came down for my first selection, these she was, beautiful as ever. That meant that I had to adjust my original plan (go to step two and forever forget about step one). This meant that she would be victimized by my refusing the joiner fee earlier than I planned on. Oh well

The last time I stayed at Cascades (12/4) I had trouble meeting up with her. I asked other cute girls at Cascades about Isabel & was told she was upstairs & I should come back in 15 minutes. After two hours (on 12/4/04) I had stopped by 5 times without timing it right. It became a joke with the other girls who wanted me to go with them instead of “waiting for my favorita who was too busy”. But this strategy paid off with a good quality session when I finally did catch up with her that early December night. And my first trip to the room on this trip was good also. This despite the fact that she gives me a little too much teeth scratching when giving a CBJ. Price info: prior trips: $30 for 20 min sin ropa, fucky/sucky, & multiple positions. This time was 300 pesos ($27) for sin ropa and fucky/sucky. I didn’t bother to negotiate for 20 minutes since I always get to finish when I have the room, but I did forget to ask for multiple positions (fuck me). However my failure to request multiple positions turned out to be OK. It meant she stayed in one of my two favorite positions (cowgirl) the whole session following her scratchy cbj. I didn’t dare ask for my other favorite position (doggie) for fear of getting the $10 question and interrupting the good vibe we had going. I usually need to request a hand job to finish, and this session was no exception. We were done around 11:15 P.M. & she told me that she planned to work until 1:00 A.M.. So I told her I would look for her shortly before her shift’s end for another trip to the room.

I had a couple of drinks at AB while my willie got a short rest. The talent seemed to be a little off at A/B compared to my visit two weeks ago – but that might have just been the timing of my short visit there. Did not see any of the 5 or 10 girls that would normally motivate me to want to get a room there. So choosing Cascades for Thursday night seemed to be working out well. I also stopped by the Chicago Club and wondered to myself if I will ever see top talent there. But you guys talk it up as the next best alternative to AB, so I decided to that I would still keep checking it out. I even figured that I would likely stay the next night at the Levya after expressing my expected displeasure with the Cascades staff regarding the joiner fee.

SO NOW THE FIRST SHOWDOWN WITH THE CASCADES STAFF:

At around 12:40 I head back to Cascades entry to the alley. A couple of girls are in front, but no Isabel. I take a seat and wait for her. When it got to be around 12:50 I figured I should ask one of the other girls if they saw Isabel go home. But just as I got up from my seat here comes Isabel barreling down the stairs. With no words, just a gentle rolling of our eyes, and a nod of our heads, we were both headed up the stairs like two horny teenagers.
At the top of the stairs we both smiled at the desk clerk and he………….
SMILED BACK…… AND DID NOTHING ELSE! NO REQUESTS FOR ANY FEE. Isabel just kept walking and did not even pick up her tube of lubricant since she knew there was plenty of astroglide up in my room.

I tried not to act surprised and we headed up to my room for a session I didn’t expect to get. I wondered to myself if having the double room made the difference. And with Isabel, since there was no negotiation, I figured I would get the same 300 peso deal as before, and be stuck with only one position after a cbj. But heck, I really made the most of it and eventually even came in the doggie position (rare for me).

LOOKING AGAIN TO START MY FIRST BATTLE:

I am in my late forties, and usually prefer at least three to four hours between sessions. But I had a battle to wage. So at around 2:15 I head back down the stairs again ready to negotiate a session that I know won’t happen because of the infamous additional girl charge. I find this really cute girl ten to fifteen paces east of the cascades entrance. She’s got a nice spinner body and what looks like pretty large knockers. I told her she was "muy bonita" and I wanted to take her up to the room. She said “twenty dollars” and I replied in English that I wanted to pay her 200 pesos for sin ropa, multiple positions, and fucky/sucky. I expected her to counter with a higher fee, but surprisingly she said yes and up we went.

I again just tried blowing right past the clerk and walking straight to the elevator as if I owned the place. But this time he stopped me (at considerable noise and efforts on his part). I looked surprised by his behavior and indicated that it was OK, I had a room upstairs. “Don’t you remember me? You checked me in earlier tonight.” I said. He asked me my name and what room I was in. I gave him the requested info. He checked his list and indicated to the jiz king standinf between us and the elevator that we were OK to go to 424. Just like that we were in the elevator with the jiz king heading up to the fourth floor. I told the kid in English that I didn’t need his help getting into the room and showed him my room key. So he just waved to us and stayed in the elevator after we reach the 4th floor.

Gabriella seemed to like the fact that I had vanilla flavored condoms. She also liked how warm the room was. But when it came time to do the nasty she was keeping her top on. I reminded her of her deal downstairs as we lay on the bed touching each other. She stroked my rising member and said that her bambina needed the leche. She gave me such a SAAAAAAD face! So I rubbed her breasts through her clothing and said that I didn’t want to take the baby’s leche-the baby needed it, which made her SMILE BIG.

(I re-read her thread just before posting this trip report and see that she is notorious for just about everything I mention: not keeping her word, keeping her breasts protected from the outside world. But I didn’t remember any of those things about her when I had her with me. I just went along with the broken promise under two rationalization schemes: 1. She has a great spinner body so I’m likely gonna want to do her again and again and the mysterious secretive breast concealment will likely add greater eroticism when those honeys eventually come out to play, and 2. I was only paying $18 for oral sex and multiple positions-Fuck that’s a great deal even if the girl keeps her entire upper body in a sack if she’s got a great ass!)

So even with her top on she was quite a sight to behold. And I needed a smokin hot little bod to keep me hard after two quick pops with Isabel. And because I received so much recent sex I took a very loooooong time before I came. And this session contained extra good sex. Her fellatio skills are very very good. And we followed that with a long fucking session. I fucked her a long time in doggie, then mish, well past the contracted 15 or 20 minutes. Just as I sensed she was going to say no mas, I requested a hand job to finish. And because of my fatigue, she had to do an extra long hand job to get me to pop. I think I might have been with her for 50 to 55 minutes total (which is like two weeks in street girl time). So my tip was generous. Instead of the typical 10 to 15% of fee cash tip OR a (looks better than it costs) $2 bracelet I gave her a propina of BOTH 5 dollars U.S. and a $4 necklace.

Well, I tried really hard to make a scene regarding the joiner fee, but never got the chance. In the morning I decided it would be best to come back and battle with them another day in the near future (as a respected recent repeat customer that had NEVER been assessed the fuck fee before). And if I went forward with my original plan to spend the second night at Levya I could get my car out of the parking lot across the street from CC before the next 12-hour period (& 50 peso fee) began. So I walked over to the Levya and checked in at 9:40 A.M. The Levya clerk said the room would be ready in 20 minutes so I paid the room fee and key deposit and said I would return in 20 minutes. I drove my car literally across the street from one parking garage to another. They did a good job washing my car at the first garage for $5 which included a so so inside carpet cleaning.

I had a quick breakfast and came back to the Levya. My room (# 209) was not yet ready, so I reminded the front desk clerk it was now well past the time promised for the clean room. I was promised it would be cleaned in just a few more minutes. I thanked him and said I would be back again in about one hour. It was now around a quarter to eleven and I believed check out time at cascades was noon. So I figured I had one more slim chance of quibbling over the joiner fee at cascades.

I moseyed on over to cascades and just to the east of the entrance I found yet another nice spinner body owned by Sandy. She said wanted $20 to go upstairs. Here’s where I made my first, but not last mistake of the trip (unless you think paying $40 for a cascades room the night before was mistake #1) I BOLDLY told Sandy that I wanted to pay her 300 pesos…. But I wanted sin ropa, fucky/sucky, multiple positions AND vente minutos.

It was like she couldn’t believe her ears….

With a look of disbelief, she repeated it back to me, slowly, to make sure there was no misunderstanding “ tres, cien, pesos????? VAMANOS!” I rolled my eyes AT MYSELF for making suck an obvious overpayment offer. I see after re-reading her thread that I offered too much given her current marketability. Which gives me some ideas for the future-but I will need some delicate translation help from a fellow hombre.

I made my usual dash for the elevator when we got to the top of the stairs. Since there was a new guy in charge of the desk in the morning (a smaller, older man) it did not surprise me that no joiner fee was asked for. I think I had to tell him I was going up to 424, but I don’t remember the details, just that it there was no hassle or problem at all.

Well Sandy was the chica most impressed with the way I set up the room. She pointed to the CD player and said approvingly “Musica” She then pointed to the heater and the clean sheet I was putting on the previously unused bed and said in broken English that the only thing missing were shots of tequila. (I will try to make sure I have some on ice the next time I choose her). She too had excellent oral skills (maybe good-looking Isabel should not remain my favorita without some serious oral improvement).

I showered and packed up the room after Sandy finished me up by hand. Checked out five minutes before noon and told the older desk clerk that I had a VERY good stay as I passed him $1.50 in US coins. I told him I would be back very soon. Then I walked over to the Levya, where my room still had not been made.

I now hung out on the walkway leading to all the 200 series rooms after telling the front desk guy I wanted to begin using my room. A pretty blonde girl that I had seen at the CC the prior night (during a very brief visit) was staying in another room on the same floor. She was a little too poochie in the belly for my taste (I don’t want any competitive pressure against my enormous gut), but I could definitely do her if my other options were more limited. But alas, neither my room, nor myself, were ready yet when our ships passed again this early afternoon. So I went and got some dental work done a block from the border during the afternoon, and a haircut. I may have saved over $500 from the cost of a basic dental service, if done in the U.S., but I will wait to report on it until after next week after the permanent cap is put in place.

At 5:00 P.M. I walked into the Chicago club. At 5:01 I exited the CC. Had some dinner and scoped out the street talent. I found one little spinner out of a gaggle of spinners hanging in front of the Hacienda. I established early that she would be willing to go to the Levya, a half block away. She was concerned about time and seemed happy that I only wanted veinte minutos. But we could not get together on price. She started at $20. I said that price was OK for sin ropa and multiple positions and…… (I was about to say fucky sucky) when she interrupted me by saying $35 dollars. I laughed a little at her and said that for that price I would also need fucky/sucky and treinta minutos. We both agreed to disagree and I went on my merry way.

I again dropped in the CC a few minutes before 7:00 P.M. I couldn’t describe the place as dead because it seemed to have a faint pulse. There must have been close to 20 girls sitting on stools next to their long bar with only one guy. In the booths spread out through the entire joint was maybe three other guys. There didn’t seem to be any great beauties at the bar, but maybe an acceptable chica or two.

A very thin blonde dancer was wrapping up her set. She seemed a little older than my usual target, but I figured she was worth a fischa drink to get to know since she was a bonafide spinner. Before the blonde returned from the back dressing room (with her $2 worth of tips) the next dancer took the stage. A beautiful thin Latina showing some very nasty dance moves. I typically won’t tip dancers during the first ‘clothed’ song but will gladly give my dollar after the top and skirt comes off. But I was one of only two guys sitting in booths adjacent to the dance floor and 15 seconds into her song she was in my booth grinding her clothed snatch in my face. I inserted the dollar where indicated and got a nice thank you peck on the cheek. She danced really seductively to me, her only tipping customer, so that now we had a relationship going. I had to look utterly amazed when her top came off, to get the reactions back and forth. When she returned to my booth it seemed that two more dollars in her panties seemed appropriate. She told me in clear English that after her dance she would come to my booth “for your company” I responded with “umm muy bueno”. She returned and was very happy to get a quick fischa and a quick offer of 500 pesos. Her name is Alejandra and she said she has a one year old baby living with her sister (a former CC girl) and her mother in her hometown of Puerta Vallarta. She tried to work a second fisha drink, but I told her we should get going so I would have enough recovery time to repeat with her at 10:00 when she would be free of her obligations to dance any more that evening. So off we went (I thought) to my room at the Levya.

While walking, I got a little ahead of her as I was heading to my room at Levya. She stopped at the first step leading up to the Jalos hotel. She indicated it was the same hotel and that we had to enter through this entrance. At the cage she indicated that the CC required her to use these rooms before 10:00 that evening. That horrible room cost 100 pesos plus $2 U.S. (was probably 120 pesos). Crappy room, but great session. She had (or faked) three orgasms as she clearly wanted to be fucked long and hard. As usual I could not cum with a condom and had to be jacked off by her at the finish. Here’s a turn of events, I had to tell her to hurry up and HJ me because I was afraid the knock would come sooner rather than later. She laughed knowingly and gladly obliged. During clean-up we agreed that I would return to the CC just before 10, but that we would need to (even at that time) leave separately in order to go to my room at the Levya.

I arrived back at CC at 9:45 and she came in soon afterward (probably from upstairs) but immediately disappeared into the back room for 45 minutes. No worries as I was recharging anyway and could benefit from a later resumption of activities. While I waited in the CC, one hot girl, one marginal one, and about 5 unfuckables approached me wanting to join me in my booth, but all begged off right away when I said I was waiting for someone. Alejandra joined me in my booth & requested a Fischa drink. I have to appreciate her working me to the max. Alejandra did eventually get to my room – me going directly – and she getting there eventually after starting up the Jalos stairs.

We had another really good session in my room. She returned to the club and I was headed off to sleep in a midnight Alejandra bliss……

When I awoke it seemed fairly late in the morning. I looked for my cell phone which doubles as a watch, but couldn’t find it. Oh yeah I thought to myself, it was in my pants last night. Well where are my pants? I looked around the room 3 times before it finally hit me that I did not lock the door after Alejandra left last night. I walked over to the door for my room AND IT WAS AJAR!. FUCKING SHIT! I had been burglarized during the night AND IT WAS MY OWN FUCKING FAULT. This wasn’t a newbie error – IT WAS A CLASSIC KNUCKLEHEAD ERROR!

So I assessed what had been taken and the damage wasn’t real bad. A cheap pair of pants were gone along with the pocket contents: my cell phone, $40 cash, and my drivers license. From the dresser top they grabbed $15 in singles and a $5 pair of sunglasses. Later I figured out that the burglers also lifted my $30 CD player. MAN DID I GET OFF EASIER THAN I DESERVED. They left my suitcase, other clothes and cooler. My car keys were fortunately not in my pants, but left on the table. Thank god my car, containing over $200 cash in several hiding places was untouched. I am sure Alejandra was not involved in this burglary – otherwise the burglers would have dug into my large bag and pulled out the $400 pesos still left in it in the same spot Alejandra saw me pull out $500 pesos to pay her for the second session.

I was actually happy. No great losses and I remained unharmed despite deserving worse. I told the guy at the front desk of the Levya what had happened but was very clear to him that I felt the loss was entirely my fault and not the hotels. He clearly liked my calm, reasonable, attitude and said he would keep an eye open for anyone with my stuff. I kept a positive attitude by remembering the advise one friend of mine had given another friend who was victimized in a similar fashion. He said “Hey, don’t worry about it, shrug it off. The person who stole your stuff probably needed it much more than you do.”

Determined not to leave the Zona on a down note I made myself stick to my original remaining plans. Bought some cigars. Had some Birras de chivo for brunch. Did Elizabeht of the Hotel Rio Nilo (sin ropa, multiple positions fucky/sucky for 200 pesos-see post under her thread) and winded down the early afternoon with a $25 Azteca Massage (my first) from a girl named Grisella (I think) before hopping in my car and returning to the states.

Marching into the valley of death, I had even emerged unscathed!

Taxguy,

Sorry to hear re the burglary, that blows. Consider it may not have been you not locking the door but someone opening after you zonked out. My first or second stay at Cascadas that happenned..fortunately I woke up and loudly asked who goes there and they bailed. After that I always put something against the door that will make some noise and wake me up.

Nice report, thank you.

If you need translation help I can assist you with that anytime.

The last time I got a double...2 years ago? It was $33 I think.

Cascadas may only be enforcing on weekends...busy time.

Cheers,

Concarne "boycotter still"

Thank you for the great report. Sounds like maybe paying for a 'double room' might be the thing for you 'boycott' guys seeing red over Cascadas multiple chica policy. Of course it could be argued that you should just pay the fee (that's apparently not going away any time soon) and shut the fuck up as it may actually be CHEAPER that way, but as I don't visit TJ any more it's no skin off my nose one way or the other.

The Leyva IS an alternative, especially if you're driving a car, but it's surprising that you got a street girl to agree to go with you there -- most won't. And when you factor in that you paid an extra 12 bucks for a room with the CC girl, there are no obvious savings vs. staying at Cascadas and paying the extra room fee there for multiple girls, and I'm sure ALL will agree that the rooms at Cascadas are nicer.

Reading the first part of your post made me think that your problem shouldn't be with the people at Cascadas who are just enforcing a policy (that many don't like), but rather with your SG favorita. Paying her a rather generous 30 bucks and then being AFRAID to ask her for a simple position change makes me think that you'd be much better off trying to hammer home your points about mongering economics with HER rather than the MINIONS at the front desk at Cascadas. Telling her "LOOK, bitch, I am a generous paying customer (AKA gringo sucker) and if you don't want to get with the program there are DOZENS of girls that WILL" just MIGHT teach her a lesson about nickel and diming you for stuff that should be STANDARD service. Personally, when I get attitude about position changes, something changes in ME and I start banging away like I'm trying to PILE DRIVE her through the mattress. And then I move on to the next one that will possibly have a better attitude.

I wish all of you luck with your 'boycott'. Just makes it easier for ME to get a room at Cascadas on my annual visit to TJ.

Porker. I agree with every point you raise.

I really don't know if my having the more expensive double room was the cause of my not being confronted by the joiner fee. Concarne suggested this may have occurred because it was a weekday.

Personally, I think that they just don't have a good controlled system in place - and my taking Isabel up twice to begin the evening screwed up the night clerks count on me. The guy did not know me from Adam because I am a relative newbie.

I recall one guy gave an uncorraborated assertion that single rooms mongers got to take two chicas up a day. Double rooms got four chica trips, and the two jacuzzi rooms had unlimited chicas. But it seemed nobody agreed with this one poster - In fact MANY of the narratives here imply you get just one chica a night before the $12 fee gets imposed, regardless of which type room you have. I think what happened to me is what several other guys have suggested: that the rules are inconsistently applied. But I am not known by them, so maybe the rules are applied inconsistently, arbitrarily, and capriciously.

Anyway, I expect I will get to test them again this coming Thursday night. Concarne, I would like to take you up on your generous offer for some translation help if your going to be in the zona Thursday night - drinks on me.

I was also surprised the little young thing in front of Hotel Hacienda agreed to go with a stranger like me to the Levya. But I do think the fact that I could point to the Levya's sign (a short half block away and in her line of sight) made that an easier sell than Cascades. Hard to tell if her premium pricing was due to my room requests, my service requests, or my fat ugly mug - probably all three factored in.

Didn't that suck regarding my compelled use of Hotel Jalos? I think I've worked things out with this Alejandra so that I won't need to do that again. SHIT, I KNOW I'M NOT DOING THAT AGAIN! Does anyone on this board know If I will have to deal with that crap everytime I make a new 'selection' from the CC stables while staying at the Levya?

And I really don't have a problem personally with the Cascades clerks. Just this onerous service charge that has no "service" attached to it. When you think about it, having a $12 fee tacked onto an $18 genuine service is a fucked-up deal. I think it is worth trying to work around.

taxguy; my experience at cc is the girls have to use jales hotel during their shift at cc. also the girls told me the bar fine for a girl leaving before end of shift is $100, up from $20 old price. the girls are logged out by clipboard man at door and give him a a paper from desk clerk of jales hotel upon returning to cc.

taxguy; my experience at cc is the girls have to use jales hotel during their shift at cc. also the girls told me the bar fine for a girl leaving before end of shift is $100, up from $20 old price. the girls are logged out by clipboard man at door and give him a a paper from desk clerk of jales hotel upon returning to cc.

Taxguy...

I will be happy to assist you. However this thursday is not good for me. Fri night (I will be around for sure), the weekend or any eve next week works well for me.

Inbox me and let me know