By Blazers on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 03:58 pm: Edit |
I remember my first mongering session like it was yesterday. It was with some girl I took from Adelitas in March of 1999. I had just finished taking the bar exam and my buddy decided to take me down to Tijuana as he was a local Mexican soccer star and played for some time for Cruz Azul. I was adamantly against paying for sex as I didnt have a problem getting free sex in the States. I finally had the nerve to take a girl upstairs for $50 on a Friday night.
Started out with a covered BJ and she slapped on a condom with a gallon of lube and rode me a hundred miles an hour while yelling "you feenesh". She gave me a closed kiss on the mouth and I finished in a total of about 4 minutes. It was nervous exhiliration at its highest peak. Nervous and excited that I had done the forbidden and that I had paid only $50 to fuck a very hot Mexicana.
At that time, I thought I had just experienced the pinnacle of P4P. It was crazy to think that you could fuck a girl that hot for $50 with not strings attached. It was especially exciting because these girls seemed so exotic to me and that Mexicanas in the states dont give gringos the time of day unless they are single mom's. Don't get me wrong, I fucked hundreds of latinas before starting my mongering activities BUT they were second generation Mexicanas and were far removed from these exotic creatures who didnt speak a word of English. I spoke minimal Spanish at the time. Soon afterwards, I was taking Spanish classes 3 nights a week and hired a tutor. It was the beginning of an addiction that has stayed with me till this day.
Fast forward 6 years later and I speak fluent Spanish, Thai, Lao and moderate Portuguese. I spent 3 nights a week for over two years learning Thai and Lao from temple monks. I've gained 35 pounds, losing hair and even have a couple wrinkles here and there. I went from being a young, handsome stud who played two college sports to a sex addict who spends 6 figures a year on traveling and fucking. But those are the superficial changes in my mongering career. The major change has been that my demands from providers and my definition of GFE has changed dramatically.
For now, enjoying a session in TJ is a near impossibility. In general, the two sessions I had last week were as good as it gets in TJ but my expectations are so high and my time so limited in TJ, that I just dont have the patience or desire to be in TJ four days a weeek in order to find the elusive FOB. Imagine fucking two girls a day who worship the ground you walk on and will stay with you all night for $20 and swallow your load and let you fuck them without a condom and finish inside of them. After experiencing that, why would I want to get a covered BJ from a worn out TJ hooker.
Before I get into my sessions from last week, let me make some observations about TJ from my perspective going there on a Thursday and Saturday.
THE GOOD:
-Hong Kong Bar had an excellent layout and does it's best to keep their customers entertained.
-Sidewalks are wide and much cleaner
-Paleteria on Constitution still cranks out great licuados and paletas.
-Daytime at Adelita's much better than in the years past when it was just worn out Mom's
-Street girls are much prettier than in years past and they dress in school girl outfits and other fashionable theme wear that makes some of these little Indian girls look presentable and sometimes hot. The problem is that a lot of the hot girls from the streets have decided to try out the big leagues an are making enough dough to stay there.
THE BAD:
-Chicago Club is officially closed IMHO. When I started mongering, that place was Supermodels-r-us and now there are just a couple of graduated street girls and other worn out flabby chicks that are WAY past their prime. Their are about 15 guys for every girl in this place and all the booths are crowded with married Vietnamese guys spending the night trying to woo the girls with sweet talk and fichas. This place is now a total fucking waste of time and the talent is nil.
-Although there are a couple of serious stunners still at Adelitas, the stunners are going up 15 times a night so why bother. The rest of the bar is loaded with very, very pretty fat girls. I don't mean fat in a relative manner...I mean absolutely fucking HUGE by anyone's standards. Bumpy stomachs from multiple lipos, ass implants, scars all over their body and dents all along the back of their leg from excess cellulite. I couldnt believe that some guys would actually pay money to fuck some of these girls. Some of these girls are nearly 40 and 200 lbs and are still busy on a Saturday.
-The fresh blood at Tropical is more sporadic now and a lot of the girls that were FOB's at one time are still working there 2 years later and are looking shabby.
-Las Chavelas is loaded with girls that weigh more than 3 Thai girls combined. Occasionally you will find a hot young spinner but it's like finding a white tiger.
-The talent level at Hong Kong now is aweful. The skinny girls have faces like Broom Hilda and the pretty girls look pregnant.
-Pollo Bar, La Caretta and others are straight up clip joints.
-Fucking beggars everywhere
-Taxi Libre system is now a complete farce
-The demographic makeup of the mongers on Saturday is horrifying. Let's just say I saw a lot of guys who makeup a segment of the population that has an AIDS rate nearly 10 times that of your average person and I dont mean homos. Last thing I want to do is fuck a girl after seeing some of these guys go upstairs with them. Basically 1/3 of the mongers fit this description whereas they were rarely seen before.
I arrived Thursday hoping to fuck one of my favoritas in Alejandra de GDL. She is damn near perfect when she is not wearing a wig and gives novice service but a decent trophy fuck nonetheless. She was MIA or busy so I headed out to the street and noticed a slip in the street girl talent. Come to find out that a lot of the cuties are now working in the big leagues. I still did manage to see some decent talent that were better than any of the small bars.
I finally spotted a couple friends at Tropical and before I knew it, they bought a bottle of Tequila and were demanding I take some shots. I am not a big drinker in the States so it doesnt take much for me to get fucked up and I was hammered. I had my eye on a girl that looked like a simple girl with a fairly thin body and a pretty face IMHO. I thought about fucking Sarah but this girl might provide some extras. This girl was all over me from the start and after a couple of fuck you fichas, we were upstairs for $50.
I have never had a knock at the Oro so I was hoping for a session that wasnt rushed. I ate her pussy, we had sex missionary with a condom. We then switched to doggie and her on top for a while but I couldnt cum. I was more sober at this point but I just cant cum with these fucking latex socks anymore. She ripped off the condom and gave an excellent BBBJ and that seemed to do the trick after about 15 minutes but she wouldnt let me finish in her mouth. Now for a TJ session, thats a great session..but for me, it was horrible. Got something to eat but was still too buzzed and went home.
On Saturday decided to take a quick trip to ZN again. The fight was on so there were Novice mongers everywhere. This is the worst talent I had ever seen in TJ..EVER. By about 11pm, I was talking with Milkman and commenting on how Smith looks a little freakish now....like an anime porn character. I feel very hypocritical talking about her like that because she was one of the best things available that night. I saw a couple other girls that looked great but they had went up 4 times in the span of an hour so I passed.
As I was standing there near HC, I felt a girl give me a hug from behind and whisper in Spanish that she was wondering when I would return. I turned around and it was Smith. Her face is a little older up close but still prettier than most of the girls in AB. I dont like the new ass implants but the larger tits get a thumbs up from me, definately in the Pam Anderson cartoon category. She was being very affectionate with me and hugging me and wanting to know what I had been doing the past couple of years. I guess I was pretty good friends with her before and had some relatively good sessions with her in the past. She didnt ask me to go upstairs and there were tons of guys circling around her and waiving to her. She waived one guy off and was totally focused on me while I was talking and had a huge smile. She must have been flying on drugs to forget about her loyal fans while talking to me.
Anyways, it was getting late and I decided to go for an old reliable and see what happens. Upstairs, she was even more friendly. She undressed me and pressed those huge tits on my chest while stroking my dick. This girl is very sterile with her sessions but has been known to give extra services on TLN's. We proceeded to the bed with some light kissing and she stopped in the middle and asked about which countries I thought had the most beautiful women....blah, blah blah. She started with a Covered BJ but I stopped her early on as I hate those things. I then had her put her heels on and had her face the mirror standing up and fucked her doggie for a while. We did missionary for a bit and that pussy is so bald, it's magnificent. She then hopped on top and was giving me her best fake moans and then was kissing my ears and she was moving faster until she was yelling fairly loud and then looked at me and planted her lips right on mine. Tongue hockey ensued and I grabbed her fake ass and pushed her towards me until I finally blew a load while her tongue was in my mouth. Now, this may seem like a great session but it was just solid. The knock came right after that and that meant time up. So for $60, I could fuck a girl for 30 minutes in a shitty hotel room that I paid $11 dollars for...what a bargain...NOT. I then went to Chicago Club for a bit then returned home.
By Merlin on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 05:00 pm: Edit |
Thanks for the interesting write up Blazers. I was actually wondering about TJ, haven't been there in months but I used to go often in the early 90s.
I also like to check out Tropical whenever I go down as they seem to have (or used to have) some fresh gals from Sinaloa. I guess that's history now. Smith used to be a favorite when she used to work at HK several years ago, in fact, in early 2000, HK had some really beautiful gals.
By Concarne on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 05:55 pm: Edit |
This is pretty much the way I have felt about TJ in the last few months. Shit...I only have a couple of mongering trips under my belt and TJ already blows.
It was alright when I first went the first couple of times, after the first year or two is quickly began deteriorating.
By Safado69 on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 06:42 pm: Edit |
TJ has blown for quite a while. I tried going back a few times after extending my trips to other parts of the world, and the chicas in TJ now scare me, frankly.
I don't know if TJ's changed or my standards have changed, but I know that one look at most of the chicas in Adelitas and my dick runs for cover.
By Masterbates on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 06:53 pm: Edit |
Blazers,
Good report. I seem to remember running into you when you were scouting the alley a few months back, where you even mentioned something about the absurdity of CBJ's. I think you were suffering the effects of a culture shock at time, having returned recently from SEA.
But why return to the Zona? Sure, I too monger there on occasion, but you have graduated to better mongering destinations around the globe. Nice to see Smith still provides that added customer service guarantee when servicing veteran clients. With those stunning looks, her beautiful skin and long blond hair, coupled with that awesome curvy figure, that's one woman who could have easily made it into modeling or acting. I'm convinced of that.
It's too bad you couldn't provide any photos of Smith to accompany the trip report, as I'm sure most would agree as to what a stunner she is if they saw her.
As for your comment regarding Adelitas, ....."very, very pretty fat girls...absolutely fucking huge by anyone's standards." I knew there was something that keeps me wanting to go back!
Master Bates
By Maverick on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 08:10 pm: Edit |
I totally agree with your assessment of TJ, but I think others that have not ventured out of the AB/CC scene may not have the same perspective. The guys who've never been out of ZN think it's the greatest, and I'm not going to case on them if they're having fun. Objectively, though, I second the opinion (fact) that TJ is as good as dead, especially for someone who has ventured outside of ZN's impersonal walls.
After returning from my last Rio trip, I swore to myself that I would never return to TJ, and I haven't in 2 months (after going 3 times a week in the past). What have I missed? "Feenish," "knock-knock," covered BJs, no eye contact, bad attitudes, over-worked bodies, on and on.... Completely worthless service for the price. Interestingly, I've been a Smith regular, and even with her great attitude, I cannot come with her- CBJ, short-time knocks, etc. Last time in AB she actually refused to up with me, telling me that I demanded too much energy from her to get me off. That's when I swore TJ off. Thank God I'm back to Brazil in 12 days. I wont knock anyone who likes going to TJ, but if they only knew how bad the place was compared to the rest of the world..... (and if anyone thinks that I'm just not doing the right girls, I've done a whole hell of a bunch over the years, with some "good" experiences, but the point is as Blazers says--even the good experiences are barely worth it after you expand your horizons).
By Concarne on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 08:32 pm: Edit |
I had to stopp in the middle of my previous post so to continue...
The scene does blow and perhaps its only redeeming value nowadays (at least for me) is to cultivate some kind of interaction with fresh SG's or the scattered "gems" in the smaller bars (gem relative to TJ mind you). If I can get unhurried and engaging physical action for 10-15 than it is alright for an occasional trip to break the monotony....but that is about it.
The Chicago observations are right on the money...I admit sometime 2-3 yr ago I saw a couple of honeys that made me stand up asap...I ran over to the ATM...As far as Adelita's I think the last one I ever did there was Maria Magdalena and that was in her first few months there.
Nahh...once you tasted some of the better stuff in other areas TJ is at the bottom for sure.
By Catocony on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 09:00 pm: Edit |
If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times - though the TJ/Mexico defenders (who by and large have never been elsewhere) always jump down your throat, TJ is poor to fair as a mongering spot compared to most other places. I rank Guatemala above Mexico, and just going on Mexico alone, TJ ranks behind Nuevo Laredo IMHO. The prices are high, the service quality is shit, the chicas aren't in any way attractive and you have to walk through shit and stand in lines at the border to get back and forth. That said, every time I'm in San Diego, I tend to venture across. Why? Nostalgia in some part, since I used to really like TJ back in the 90's. Basically, it's like going to a fast food joint - it's convenient (no 9-hour planeride to get there) and compared to the US, a superior spot.
I just find dealing with Mexicana putas to be a tiresome experience, although I do manage to find the occasional piece of talent. Funny thing, my last two sessions in TJ, the only way I could pop a nut was to close my eyes and remember sessions in my favorite cabine in my favorite terma. Dreaming of garotas while sticking brown and round Mexicanas is a shit situation, but it is better than chasing gringas in San Diego.
That said, I do worry when I read that a TJ monger is going to South America or Asia. They will most likely forever be ruined on TJ and Mexico when they do.
By Concarne on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 09:48 pm: Edit |
Catocony hit it right on the head: nostalgia for some, convinience for others. The latter sp true for me since I am short drive away (except when shipped to Ventura on occassion).
But here is my math:
1 trip a month to TJ, 1 Adelita $40-60 OR 3 SGs 40-60. That is 500-700/yr, whithout drinks, cab, food, place to sleep. With the best of luck that can be between 12 to 36 sessions at an average of 30 minutes or 6-18hr of actual BONE hours. So let's say $600 bucks for 18hr or 33.3/BONE hr for SG and a budget busting 50/BONE hr for an Adelita.
Now in LOS you can get LT for let's say 2000 baht or less. $50 which can turn into a couple to many BONE hours...let's say 3 solid OR 16/BONE hr. Please note that $ can be less than this. If I go to Cambodia (coming this year)my price drops to (LT) 6.7/BONE hr. Shit even in the DR it was 10/BONE hr.
Double all of the prices to factor in a plane tix and you are still coming out ahead....and we have not even factored in service quality, location attractiveness, food...
By Socrates69 on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 10:53 pm: Edit |
I still have a blast in TJ. trick is too cultivate with certain ones that vibe with you.
pros...gfe sexo (same gfe sexo i'd get abroad) for cheap prices,
cons...less variety and butterflying.
By Porker on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 10:55 pm: Edit |
"to a sex addict who spends 6 figures a year on traveling and fucking"
Damn, I thought I was the only one thinking in terms of Mexican pesos when I take mongering trips!
Very interesting post, Blazers, far more effective than my semi-annual diatribe where I call all the TJ mongers dumbfucks. As you mention, they ARE, but you at least take the time to spell out the reasons why.
I have had some fantastic times in TJ, and I think they are still available, for the most part. But you have to put a lot of time, effort OR money into it, and you still ain't likely to get super-model quality looks. Asia is certainly a much better deal if you can manage to break free from the daily mongering bug that enslaves people to Mexico, like it did to me for several years. I'd comment about South America being better as well, but as yet I haven't had the privilege.
By Epimetheus on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 12:11 am: Edit |
I still have a blast in TJ. trick is too cultivate with certain ones that vibe with you.
And how many thousands of US dollars over how many weekends did it take for you to "cultivate" your girls? Bet that money would have come in handy over in Indonesia or down in Colombia, eh?
E
By Curious on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 12:15 am: Edit |
I think in general the statement Porker made is a great summary of TJ: But you have to put a lot of time, effort OR money into it
I have had many wonderful experiences in TJ, and in other parts of Mexico. With less frequent visits I find I have less great experiences unless I spend a lot of money (a lot by Porkers standards anyway).
It still has the same appeal McDonalds does, however: It is close, easy, and fast.
I can make a TJ run, spend most of the night in the arms of a chica, and be back home or at work the next day before you have even landed in SEA.
By Socrates69 on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 02:57 am: Edit |
different for each chica. one took 3 visits at 150p/session, while others took 500-600p/hr sessions. another just like being with me whether i paid or not. she turned out to be a big psycho and spied other chicas i went with, then later talked shit to them. this jealous bitch caused me alot of problemas.
btw, I try to keep prices low from the get go to avoid being locked into a high price. gas, hotel and other charges do add up quickly if you become a frequent weekend warrior.
(Message edited by socrates69 on June 14, 2005)
By Wallstreet on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 06:39 am: Edit |
I've only been to TJ once, last fall and I was surprised by a few things. I thought there were plenty of attractive doable girls, and I was shocked at the attractiveness of the SGs.
I had two sessions, one with a SG and one at the Chicago Club. It's not the type of sex or experience that I enjoy - but that's not to say I didn't have a good time.
But when you do the math - figure the actual cost per minute and factor in the service - every other venue blows away TJ.
I met up with a few guys, all TJ vets and we had a blast. I would't have gone there myself - ironic because I always travel alone.
I also had an incredible meal with Blazers - can't remember the name of the restaurant, but I do remember the whole baked fish, stuffed with crabmeat and covered in queso blanco - delicious!
Coming from the East Coast, however, TJ doesn't make sense - I can get to Costa Rica in the same amount of time and Colombia is just a little further - plus there's no jet lag to deal with in CR or Colombia - same time zone as the East, 6 months out of the year anyway.
But if someone gave me the choice of a weekend in Vegas or TJ - I'd have to think long and hard - very difficult choice to make.
By Metalboots on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 08:38 am: Edit |
I have been to Thailand this year for the first time and been going to TJ since 1998. I was not at all impressed with Thailand's working ladies; just girls who wanted to cut my nose hairs, had smelly pussy, phreakey mood swings and then take 45min showers. AND NO CLUB SCEEN.
I'll take TJ any day of the week.
(Message edited by metalboots on June 14, 2005)
By Maverick on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 01:49 pm: Edit |
MB- before you "take TJ" I suggest going to some other places and then compare. I also went to LOS and was not impressed; I'm not attracted to oriental bodies and faces. I was begging to get back to TJ for some fake tits and an ass I could grab on to. If its latinas you prefer, go try SA and then see how TJ stacks up.
By Cortogringo on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 02:55 pm: Edit |
As much as I hate to admit this, I did have another reason putting me near the border, I was in TJ on Saturday in the afternoon. I cut my teeth mongering in TJ, also 1999. Spent alot of time there over a three year period and then found Brasil. Over the last three years I have probably been back to TJ 6 to 9 times, usually at the request of somebody wanting to see it for the first time or to hook up with some old friends who still go there. As far as my impressions from this last Saturday; I did find a fairly cute girl in Bar Tropical, from DF, which did kinda worry me; but she did pretty much all I asked and was not mercenary at all. Said she was twenty, probably closer to 25, she was well proportioned with fake tits. Overall not bad, for TJ pretty good actually, but I would not go out of my way to see her again. Adelitas was just not good in my opinion, I was in there for about an hour and a half, 4-5:30 pm. I did not see anyone I wanted to do during that time frame. I did meet a couple of American guys who thought they had died and gone to heaven. I ended up taking them to HK, couple of ok girls; but damn if they didn't have major attitudes. I guess I just don't like spending as much time in TJ or the cash, I'd rather go to Brasil or try out Colombia.
CG
By Bwana_dik on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 06:01 pm: Edit |
CG-
"I guess I just don't like spending as much time in TJ or the cash, I'd rather go to Brasil or try out Colombia. "
You guess?????
Recall your best session in TJ and then think Bia, think Gleice, think Tatiana, think...well, you get the picture.
I've been back to TJ once in the past three years, found it profoundly depressing, and got the hell out. There doesn't exist "beer googles" thick enough to allow me to enjoy what I was seeing. A night in front of the TV alone is preferable to a night in Adelitas. And $60 bucks for a TJ skank? You know what you normally get: an uninspired 40 minutes, with the chica repeatedly chanting "You dun jet?" after the first five minutes (that is, after the 45 second CBJ). $60? That's three hours of insane no holds/holes barred sex with a Karlas Models garota, a garota who may leaving you gasping for breath and wondering who's working for whom.
No guesswork involved here, partner!
By I_am_sancho on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 06:09 pm: Edit |
Alas, why go to TJ? Because it's there. You get to stick your dick in a purdy gurls hole fer $20. I've been making it to Asia about once a month lately but TJ I can hit one or two times a week. Hop down, bang a SG and I'm on my way. You can't compare it to Asia or Brazil but what the hell. I still always get a kick out of sticking my dick in a purdy gurls hole.
By Bwana_dik on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 07:00 pm: Edit |
IAS-
Where the fuck are you finding purdy gurls on the streets of TJ? Oh, never mind. You are, I forgot momentarily, the Skankmaster!
By Buick on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 08:08 pm: Edit |
the quality of the daytime AB girls seems better than the last few years. i'm only in there once every two months for a couple of days each time but that is my sense. that is about the only positive i have on TJ. CC sucks, so prepare yourself for disappointment if you go there, maybe you'll be surprised.
if you have to fly more than an hour to get to TJ, i would check the alternatives for sure. if you are within an hour via plane or live in SoCal, why not roll the dice for a two night visit. could be alot worse.
By Safado69 on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 06:43 am: Edit |
Unless you consider "nothing" to be a whole lot worse than TJ, I have to disagree. I wouldn't drive an hour, let alone fly an hour, to go to TJ. I've mongered in at least 20 countries, and TJ is the bottom end, the worst I've ever experienced (discounting the US, where I've never mongered). I consider "nothing" to be a step up from TJ.
By Lovingmarvin on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 09:55 am: Edit |
I am getting ready to visit TJ next week after a long absence. I have a business trip to CA & good excuse. After having visited Brazil numerous times, it will be hard to do without kissing, hugging, the whole girlfriend experience there versus the very professional job in TJ. Plus I also do not like covered BJ's. But then again it is a quick & easy hop across the border (if you are already in Southern CA). Flying to Brazil is not exactly easy, cheap, or quick. Depending on where you live in the US, TJ is a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to reach.
I have heard that Varig will soon start day non-stop service to Rio, which will definitely rule out TJ once again for a long time. I just absolutely hate those overnight flights with major jet lag. TJ has been a great diversion for a long time and it is a fun place to visit. It takes some hunting and much luck to find that one good one, but it does happen. More often than not, however, it is just a quickie get off session.
I guess TJ is good only if you happen to be somewhere in Southern California for whatever reason, you live there or travel there for business. Otherwise it is not worth traveling long distances to visit.
By Barneyw on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 10:32 am: Edit |
This is very disappointing news. I haven't been to TJ in few years. I was planning to go a couple months from now for a several days, several lays trip. Would boystown in NL be better for this? Anyone been to both?
By Catocony on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 07:11 pm: Edit |
If you're flying, bypass Mexico completely. That's my advice, if you're going on a mongering vacation, pick South America, Central America or the Caribbean.
By Concarne on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 07:28 am: Edit |
I second Catocony's rec...
By Masterbates on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 06:48 pm: Edit |
Maverick, I agree 100%. After venturing further down into Mexico, and even visiting Colombia once, TJ sucks, especially with the time restraints they put on sex.
By Metalboots on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 09:48 pm: Edit |
Truly I am baffled by what I read here. That should increase my excitement for the future of TJ's road because so many mongers will not be there and the sausage-fest will subside into mucho ladies for the few guys. Sooo backwards these posts are. AB had this week MANY Fat ladies, the most pulp/gordita thick and pudgie bellies and fat faces I had ever seen for their 4PM floor show - shit not even Gilligan was head-banging. Masterbates would have been proud, but I left for Hong Kong. The thin ones exsist here contrary to some posts - anyway. Late at night (10 PM-2AM) Chicago Club was looking great! Nice flaca's everywhere and they had some "new" faces that I was told were imports from Las Chuvellas from another monger, but who knows. I guess I feel like some of you all are pissin' on my party - but thats kewl- I drive almost 6 hours and have done so many many times. You guys must have changed view points from your other experiencs from other countries or something. Maybe its cuz I like Maccaroni & Cheese, Pizza & Beer, Nachos and Tacos - not Caviar, Wine, Pattay, and the high-end delecatasies. OR I am just a freak. Either way:
TJ till Death! (sarcasrtic grin)
By Buick on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 11:00 pm: Edit |
Safado, you must live a good life if a one hour drive or flight to TJ/SAN is not worth the trip. everything is relative. i've had a few nights where i just end up drinking and enjoying w/o a chick as i just don't see one that i like (which was impossible a few years ago). still a great time hanging with my buddies drinking and enjoying. bringing some first timers down there is classic, they think the gals are pretty hot. it is really hit and miss these days but way better than staying home. no question in my mind.
By Mongerx on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 12:56 am: Edit |
Just to recap sports fans the final score; Thailand 1,000,000 and TJ 2. At least TJ avoids the complete shut out.
Actaully I am a bit sympathetic to Metalboots as I find that Thailand is overrated on the quality of the girls and p4p action, quantity doesn't make quality. ButI sure as hell will take a four day romp in Pattaya over a four day romp in TJ 100 out of 100 times!
By Maximus743 on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 03:22 pm: Edit |
I am certainly no fan of TJ the city or TJ in general but I will vote TJ over PI and Thailand.
So
Make that TJ 3
I see even veteran monger Maverick picked TJ over LOS. He has alot of similiar taste in his past posts as mine so I'll add his rec as another reason to avoid LOS.
I have had 100% of the mongers that I know who are top World travelers tell me I would not like Thailand and to not waste my money and even more so I would absolutely hate PI.
Just like I don't need to do drugs to know drugs are not for me. I have seen enough pics,videos and been told by enough people that Thailand is not for me and don't need to have been physically there
The only way I vote for Pattaya is for the resort but no way the girls.
Mongerx,
Please come to TJ and pass out marketing info on THailand so perhaps TJ can be rid of another 1,000,000 mongers some cool, many PLMS.
Thanks much.
(Message edited by maximus743 on June 18, 2005)
(Message edited by Maximus743 on June 18, 2005)
By Maximus743 on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 03:31 pm: Edit |
Blazers
As I already told you, Outstanding report.
I don't agree with all of it
You really nailed CC the best. So many fucko Asians keeping the handful of lookers in CC tied up all night.
BTW I am not racist. Some of my best buddies are Asian.
Fucko is a term used in LA strip club and HC lingo to describe a dude who hogs a girl all night.
Anyway the last three trips I have been to CC. Osiris was one of the better lookers there and I could get no where near her as she is always drinking the entire night with some Asian dudes.
I too remember the days that CC was Supermodels -r-us but nowadays you are lucky to see just one looker in there. If Deyanira is gone now it is really difficult to find a hottie in CC.
By Porker on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 03:55 pm: Edit |
How can you vote TJ ahead of places you've never even been to? Isn't that the very DEFINITION of ignorance? Funny how a bunch of guys (Maximus isn't the only one) that have ONLY been to TJ tend to make the same idiotic comments. I guess they have to justify throwing their money in a pisshole to themselves the best they can.
By Catocony on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 06:07 pm: Edit |
Porker,
Maximus doesn't care for Oriental looks. That's fine, but you hear things like that a lot - Brasilian girls have big asses, Oriental girls are too skinny, whatever. I find most Mexican women to be unattractive, but that doesn't stop me from letting them suck my dick. As someone who's mongered on four continents (didn't have enough time in Egypt), I've pretty much fucked at least one of every kind and have to say that for me at least, the quality of the sex is the most important thing, and guys who turn their noses up at units because they're too....whatever, they are missing out.
My point - fuck a few first, then make a generalization. You may not like skinny Thai girls or LBFMs, but once you've fucked one for a couple of hours, you may change your mind. You may not like Brasileras, but after being fucked by one for several hours, you may change your tune.
(Message edited by catocony on June 18, 2005)
By Maverick on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 06:24 pm: Edit |
I think the real jist of Blazer's post was about quality of "service" being too poor in TJ to be worth it, rather than quality of looks (which is really subjective). As much travelling as I've done over the past 20 years, I still love the cartoonish bodies of TJ whores (a la Smith). I'd even take them over most brasilieras. But when I factor in service, the equation totally flip-flops. I'd take a 2-minute fuck from a terma garota over 2 hours with ANY AB/CC chica. And I suspect most who've done both would agree. GFE in TJ (does that truly exist?)is not GFE in LOS or Brasil.Text
By Masterbates on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 08:14 pm: Edit |
I think we all need to sit back for a moment, stop adding fuel to a possible flame thread here and have a group hug at the upcoming monger fiesta.
Master B.
By Metalboots on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 08:32 pm: Edit |
But Masterbates the Fiesta is IN TIJUANA - so a lot of the desidents will not attend. I think I am just fortunate then, because I will PASS ANY LIE DETECTOR TEST if asked about the sex experience of TJ versus BKK/Pattaya. TJ girls are energetic, like to dance, and are diverse. ...and I know more Espanol than I did in 1999 - I did not know ANY Thai - so communication gets better service. Thai girls were borring, sat and played connect 4, smelly pussies and distant. I still hold out for Brazil and Columbia in the near future. AND YES I WILL entertain anyone and back up my precious brown beauties at Ben's Fiesta for the Orphans for anyone who shows up.
By Masterbates on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 12:14 am: Edit |
MB,
Tj is where I actually met a lot of SEA mongers. They were "passing through" for one night. I met Socrates69, Blazers, Merlin, Wallstreet, I_Am_Sancho, and all have the same plea for a TJ monger like me: "Please give SEA a chance and come with us."
Even Epimetheus swears by it, all you have to do, is read his reports. (And see his pics)
After listening to these guys over a few brews about the GFE potential in other mongering lands, it made me feel like an amateur!
If I see you at the fiesta, we'll have a beer.
Master Bates
By Blazers on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 12:19 am: Edit |
Well metalboots, if you think a 30 minute rushed session with a covered BJ for $60 is better than paying $25 for an all night session and the girl worships you from head to toe...then we just have different standards...I expect a lot, you expect very little if you prefer TJ as a venue. Thai girls have the cleanest pussies in the world and I have been to more countries than most. Now FIlipinas, thats another story.
By Porker on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 12:29 am: Edit |
Ummm, Thai girls pussies may technically be 'clean', but they DO have a quite strong smell and taste that (I have been told) is strongly influenced by diet. Mexican girls don't.
IMO Thai prostitutes are FAR more diligent about cleanliness, though.
By Gregorio on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 01:13 am: Edit |
I have to chuckle when somebody mentionend that TJ has become a real "sausage fest."
Going to Thailand WILL NOT solve that problem. If somebody thinks TJ is chock full of "not so good looking guys with intimacy issues" wait till they see the check in line upon arrival at the Bangkok airport.
By Blazers on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 09:04 am: Edit |
Gregorio, thats not the case for Pattaya....I have never seen so many young 20-25 year old Aussie and Euro dudes in my life that would have no problem getting prime pussy in their homeland. Talk about competition. I'm 36 and felt like the old guy at the club in Peppermint a gogo. Now as for the Philippines...still an old man'd ball park.
By Epimetheus on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 11:56 am: Edit |
Could this be dumber then the Citlali thread?
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By Catocony on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 12:26 pm: Edit |
The "smelly" issues with Oriental women is because of the food they eat. Lots of garlic, chiles, stuff like that. I used to always kid my Korean GFs that if I could get them off of the kimche for a week, let the garlic get completely out of their system and feed them nothing but cheesburgers and fries, they would then know what us roundeyes mean when we say the food smells!
Oh, the reason nobody ever complains about Mexican pussy taste is that none of us ever goes within two feet of their cooches. I know I don't, after seeing them wipe their twats with a wad of toilet paper after fucking, put their clothes on and go right back to the bar. I barely go in there with a rubber on my dick. I've had several sessions where I've ended up with just a blowjob (which ends up being a handjob since most Mexicanas give terrible head) due to the smell wafting up from their pussies. These aren't streetgirls, these are chicas usually from AB or CC.
By I_am_sancho on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 01:13 pm: Edit |
They are just trying to conserve water in Mexico. It is a mostly dry country. Thailand has much more rainfall so pussy washing can be done much more liberally. Just think, if all of the putas in Mexico started washing after each session. There would be no water left for anything else.
Mexican putas are mearly being eco-friendly.
(Except all that toilet paper used to wipe their pussy before returning for the next client can't be good for the enviroment)
By Metalboots on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 01:58 pm: Edit |
I think I am going to cry...
By Masterbates on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 10:40 pm: Edit |
Gregorio, er....did you ever stop to think, there may be a bunch of "....not so many good looking guys with intimacy issues" on this board? That's why we're members of ClubHombre!
By Maximus743 on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 12:05 am: Edit |
Hola Porker
Always a pleasure to hear from you.
You crack me up.
What part of I don't need to go to LOS or PI to know I won't like it don't you get?
My best friend is married to a girl from PI who is defined by PI lovers as gorgeous. She has a young hottie PI nanny and I have met all her young hottie PI friends all flown in straight from PI. I AM NOT ATTRACTED TO ANY OF THEM.
I don't need to do drugs to know I don't like them and they are not for me.
THe only thing that would be IGNORANT is WASTING THOUSANDS of dollars going to THailand against my evaluation of thousands of pictures and videos of Thailand and PI girls and going against Veteran World mongers who have counseled me who know my type.
TALL THIN AND ENHANCED. Slyvia Matzalan and Deyanira of CC.
Wasting money traveling over there would truly be pissing money away.
I am a single guy so I will always take looks over service.
I beg you and Mongerx to come to TJ and take more mongers out of TJ.
Thanks
BTW I will go Thailand one day but it will be when Blazers and his new found friend are there to send me off to see the tourist sites while they monger.
By Scatmandoo on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 12:06 am: Edit |
I have only discovered mongering locations since October (thanks to this site). And at this point, I have only visited TJ. Because it is just a 90 minute drive from my OC home, I've been able to visit a lot since starting. But my preference for small thin bodies to screw has made Thailand a must for me.
I plan to go for three continuous weeks, starting around Haloween. I am a little nervous about being so far away from home and not being even familiar with the language(s).