Someone on the threaded board ask some basic questions about street girls and since the Red Snake archives may not be around much longer I figured I would start the street girls thread here with some SG basics.

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Street Girls 101

SG’s can be found all along Ave. Constitution from 1st from Calle Coahuila (the street AB is on) south to 1st street. They are also on the same 2 blocks of Ave. Ninos Heroes (the first street west of Ave. Contitution) and along 1st street from Ave. Revolution to Ave. Ninos Heroes. There is a small street that connects Constitution and Ninos Heroes called Callejon Coahuila (aka the alley) that is packed full of SG’s.

Most of the girls stand in the same spot every day and work set hours. They come in all shapes and sizes and range from young and pretty to down right nasty crack whores.

They all work out of small short time hotels that exist solely for this purpose and many girls are reluctant to go to other hotels unless they know and trust you. The hotels are usually pretty nasty many are just small rooms with a bed. Some will have a sink or if your lucky a working bathroom. The rate is $3 -$5 for about 15 minutes in the room when the time is up a guy will come by and knock on the door. You can pay up front for more time or have the girl hand the guy more money if you need more time.

Most SG’s will quote you $20 (the basic gringo rate) if you just walk up and ask “how much” but they can be had for less. If you can speak some Spanish and pay in pesos you can get a girl for 100 pesos (about $10). You really should expect to pay $15 or $20 for a basic session if you pay in dollars. If you want anything more then her basic service such as a blowjob you will have to need to negotiate these services up front.

All negotiations should be done on the street before you get into the room. Once in the room it is much more difficult to get your best price. They usually negotiate in $5 increments (each additional request) so the price could go up fast during in-room negotiations. You can get a better deal on the street by negotiating all services you require for one set price. Things you will normally need to negotiate for are – BJ or BBJ, pussy eating, her to take off her top, multiple positions, extra time or jus about any thing else you can think of. I personally would never pay more the $30 total for a short time SG session.

Most SG’s don’t speak much English so understanding some Spanish is helpful. You can get by without any Spanish most of the girls can communicate enough to get non Spanish speakers to take them to the room. When I first started I didn’t speak a word and I never had much trouble getting what I wanted. The worst part of not speaking the language is that you are forced to negotiate (using make shift sign language) in the room and you will probably end up paying more in the end.

The basic SG service usually goes like this -- the girl will take off her panties and one lag of her panty hose and roll them up to her one knee. She will roll her skirt up around her waist, leave her top on and lie on the bed and let you fuck her. If you want more then this be sure she knows and is willing to do what you want. Some girls are real dead fish and just lay there but others will really give you a very good session. The only way to find who is good and who isn’t is to try them out if you have a bad session you are only out $10 -$20 plus $3 for the room.

If you are local to the San Diego area and make it down to TJ a lot I would highly recommend the trying to find a few good SG’s. If you find some good ones and become their regular customers, treat and pay the well they will in turn treat you well. I have had some $30 SG sessions that put many of the club girls I have had (for $40+) to shame.

After you get to know some of the girls you may be able to set up an all niter or an extended session at your hotel for a vary reasonable price. One of the best hotels for taking SG’s back to is the Hotel Cascadas. It is located right in the middle of the zona action with it main entrance in the alley next to the Miami.

Viva La Street Girls
Dimone

Couldn't have said it better. Good post.

Great post, Dimone. SGs are one of the greatest things about TJ--when I first started going, I allowed the hideous monstrosities I saw on the street (and there are quite a few of them, to be honest!) to influence me too much, and I went a long while without really paying much attention to SGs, just walked with head down right to AB or Hong Kong or whatever club I was going to. Then, one fateful eve., I ran across one of the cutest little things I have still ever seen, on the street in TJ or anywhere else, standing on Constitution right across from the alley, had to stop and chat, found out she was brand new to TJ (or so she said!) and got an unbelievable 1/2 hour from her for a tiny sum of money. From that moment on, I was hooked on SGs.

OK, going to stop typing now, as I'm very far away from TJ right now, and starting to get way too excited just thinking about those luscious little chicas...God, I hope the holidays get here soon!

SG are a treasure, but if you want for example a 30 min session at your Hotel, BBBJ, 3-4 positions, totally nude and shower, you end up paying almost the same price as with a girl at AB. I don't think that price is a real difference btw SG and club chicas. I only do SG because some of them are actually cuter and younger than the bar girls. I have not found a SG though who appears clean enough to eat her pussy. I would also strongly warn about this since it is one of the few things where the client is at higher risk getting something than the chica, who's main risk is one cumming in her mouth.

Robertx,
All depends on how well you know the SG, how well you negotiate, etc. Many of the SG pros from Redsnake days related tales of wonder on this matter, and I myself have gotten very long sessions, with 3-4 positions, totally nude for *far* less than an AB girl. It can be done.

I had a rarity with three street girls on Saturday night. I was determined to try some of the new girls that I had not seen on the street recently. I am getting tired of doing the same old same old. My first target I had seen before but had not seen prior to my trip to Bangkok. Her name was Patricia and stands by the market next to the hotel Eduardo. As usual we haggled over price and went to Cascades. Low and behold she was lactating. I would not reccomend this SG nor would I do her again. I then picked a girl who I had not seen before on Constitution and just north of the alley, very close to where Monica stands. She had only been there a week and I could tell very sore. Again she was lactating. My next victam was on Constitution expcept on the South side of the alley. She had only been there two days. This girl was great, huge tits and very wet which I like. The next thing I find out is she was lactating. All in all I was batting three for three with all of the girls being in TJ less than a month.

Ezgab: Great idea, taking new SG makes it most likely that they just returned from pregnancy leave. Did you drink any of their milk? Were the panochas still worn out?

I think the quality of the SG have improved in the alley. Was there Sat and saw some real quality normal looking girls. Very friendly and great in the sack. For $20 got my monies worth. Mostly stand in the middle of the block to the right of Cascadas. Can't remeber name but take a cruise by during days.

I find that the most useful posts to this street girl topic are those that contain the girls name, the place she stands (e.g. outside hotel X or to the left of Bar Y) and the hours/days she works. It is also nice to know if you would do her again or if she was a cold fish. This means that you at least have to be aware of a few things and ask their name while you are negociating out on the street. If you are forgetful like me you can also carry a few slips of paper and ask her to write down her name as you are finishing up in the room. I keep a little sheet in my TJ wallet that I record the girls name, approx location, hotel used, her cost, what she did (sex sr bbbj) and whether she was any good. I usually write notes while I am resting between sessions when I can still remember some details). It is also easier for me to think about compass directions instead of right or left e.g. on the north side of the alley 30 feet from Ninos Heroes or 10 feet west of Cascadas Hotel entrance. Because these girls rarely move from their specific spot it is a lot easier and quicker to find a specific with a good description than it is to identify a bar girl in Adelita's. Sometimes you can even just go to the approximate area described and ask another girl and they will tell you whether she is in the room or has not shown up yet. The key is sharing a reasonable amount of accurate information. It is not a big deal if you don't what their asking prices for services since this will vary quite a bit based on their mood, how business is that day, and a lot of other things including whether you can communicate with them on some level.

Buena Suerte
BluJay

Good advice BluJay. I print a page off Outlook Calendar and take with me only because I don't want to have to remember the date down there, hehe... It even has a list of times if you can squeeze in all the info in those narrow line spaces...

Then I file them in a folder when I get home, course there is no "wifey" or girl friend around to discover my documented exploits but after I'm gone someone will no doubt find some amusement in them..
ag

Anyone have some fresh "SG" information or experiences to contribute?

Has anybody done an SG named Monica? I didn't see her name above and don't remember any reviews on her. She stands in the alley on the Valentina side about 3/4 of the way down toward Constitution. The chica is a pretty morena with what looked to be a nice bod underneath the layers. She flagged me down by grabbing my arm and pulling me over. How could I resist stopping? She gave me her most alluring smile and quoted me the usual gringo rate of $20. I asked her in Spanish how much for sin ropa. She responded $40! I didn't really feel like negotiating since I had a particular club chica in mind, so I bolted when she gave back my arm. Anybody have an experience with this lovely SG? TIA

Celtics
Many of them will grab your sleeve.I almost never ask them how much any more but instead ask them if they will go for diez dollars.Some will surprise you with yes then you have to negotiate a little more for sin ropas.When they say no twenty con ropas i tell them i'm sure they are worth it but thats more than i can pay right now and slowly start to move on.It's surprising how many will drop thier price at this point especially if it's at night and they are cold.I still haven't encountered one that wanted $40 sin ropas yet.
Taxibob

Taxibob, if I had a dollar for every time an SG grabbed my sleeve, I'd be more willing to pay the $40. It was the first time an SG has asked me for $40, however. IMO she was the best looking SG in the alley at that time, so maybe she gets it. I must have looked like easy money.

I like your strategy of asking if they go up for $10. I'm almost never interested in SGs, but occasionally one will strike me as pretty fine.

If this is the tall Monica with longs legs, slender, attractive by any standard, then I know her well. Pleasant, $20 (including room), and a good time, multiple positions, no rush. I banged that ass good.

Have any of you spent time with the slender morena with long black hair (often styled in two braids) who who stands on the corner constitution and and the alley? She's got a hot body, looks clean. I've talked with her briefly, but never spent time with her. I often see her in form fitting white spandex pants or in red...she looks well put together. I'd like any info before I take the plunge.

Wildcat, the description you gave is good, but I can't place her... With SG's location is everything...

Is it the NW corner of Consti & the alley? Is she a day or night chica?
ag

Altogrino,

She stands on Constitution facing the newstands. She can be seen from across the street between the phone booths and the newstand. Light skin, slender, a slight smile as you pass, never aggressive. Always looks provactive. I was gonna do her last night, but I hate surprises, (and I was sidetracked by a blowjob). Any info would help.

Well, finally made my trip to check out the street girls on new years eve..the pickings were slim, but a couple of gems...One is vanessa, she had long dark hair, light skin, and a tight flower dress..Got $20 for fucky only, and $4 for the room.. she had a nice body, but wanted $10 for mulitple positions..Pretty good, but quiet...I think she was on Nino Heros street, by a hotel, forgot the name..Another one was Paula, on Constitution, brack hair, about 25, speaks good english, but wanted $35 and wouldnt come down...Most of the sgs want $30 for sin ropas and fucky only... they quoted me $40 for sin ropas and fucky sucky...Last year i got sin ropas and fucky sucky for $20..anyway, a lot of the girls will turn down $20 and stand around for hours..Strange...

Many SG's will drop down to half of their original quote, much like the barkers selling blankets & leather goods on Revolucion... It's just their culture.

I've given up on trying to figure out why some SG's hold out for $20 or $30 when others go for $5 or $10 thought they are quite pretty. Same principle of making money as a taxi driver. They bring in a lot more $$$ with 30 short runs in a day than only 3 long hauls... I favor the ambitious SG's that will drop down to $10 without batting an eye... Then a year later each of them has received from $500 to $1000 from me,
ag

I agree with AG that the prices can drop considerably. Certainly more that in the bars. SG's can spot a newbie from a block away. It helps to know some espanol. You should get their names (Como say Yama?) and also know exactly where you are so you can find that one that got away (make a little map and mark sighting). These girls are better than fish at hanging out in the same spot, usually within a few yards. I think AG pointed out a girl, Pilar, to me by measuring the paces from the Eduardo hotel that she stood and there she was just as he had measured. I have been quite lucky recently at finding a few SG that will do sex sin ropa for 100 pesos while 150 ($15) is the norm. But for sure you can get a good 20 minutes of bbbj, cunnilingus, todo sin ropa with multiple position sex for $20 from some girls on the Alley. You just have to find them - and that is half the fun. I am not sure what the factors are that get you good sex at good prices but am pretty sure that respect and kindness help. Also not caving in to their first offer is important (unless of course their first offer is $10!) since whatever you give them the first time seems to set the fee for future encounters. So don't be afraid to walk away then offer less next time. Some girls prefer pesos while others are quite happy with dollars so I carry a bit of both in my gringo wallet (actually pesos in the wallet and dollars a bunch of places on my person). As AG eluded to the barkers on Revolucion - I wonder sometimes if you get a better deal if you are the first customer of the day and they just cannot refuse to make a deal.

Bueno Suerte
BluJay

BluJay: With sin ropas, do you mean BBBJ or do you stick your little BluJay without protection into a SG fuckwhole? I would never fuck one of them without a rubber. I girl who does sin ropas sex with you, will do it with many and that gives you the best chances to get anything from clap to HIV.

Mongerito - FYI, sin ropa (s) = without clothes or total nude rather than leaving the top covered (blouse/dress covering breasts)...

I think you mean "sin condon".. sin = without... condon = condom...

Personally I see no difference in sticking it in any hole (other than the ass) sin condon after reading of all the mongers who have emptied their load in the mouths of some of the popular TJ providers, and hearing of how the chica swabbed their (mongers) A-holes out... YUCK! Doesn't really matter if the chica's environment is AB, CC, or la calle...

Just my own 2 cents, hehe
ag

what happened to all the street girl posts? lots of hot looking young women......on ninos heros..i met this one, her name is mabel, weird name for a mexican women..she is 18, brown hair with some blond highlights, small, nice b-c cup tits, wears blue jeans and a red top...got some fs with multiple postions and sin ropas for $25 plus $4 for the room...real nice, not rushed, great hot body....there is a pretty goood selection, even late at night around 1am on a saturday...

Horn,
Where does this hotty Mabel stand?

Horndog wrote:
"what happened to all the street girl posts?"

Rumor has it there is a sort of "underground" monger network with SG reports... Guess some of the sires who are "SG friendly" are keeping secrets much in the same way as SGs seem to do;o)

What's to report? Get on down to TJ and make your selection, they're BACK in FULL FORCE for 2001.. (minus Guadalupe and a few other lookers)
ag

Don't make me go down Coahuila Alley to write reports on the chicas one by one.

I stayed in TJ Saturday and as I was going back to San Diego, to watch the raiders get their asses kicked, at 7:30 on a Sunday morning the street girls were out.

I saw at least 10 of them leaning against the walls in their normal positions.

7:30 AM on a Sunday Morning and it was cold as hell

The quality of the SGs during the early morning generally leaves a lot to be desired.

Shady,

That is a weird sight isn't it? 24/7 they're there...some leftovers from the night before and some that are just early shifters. I've considered a side trip while wandering up to Rev for breakfast but so far have resisted. There are a few nice ones here and there....plus you can see them in the daylight which gives you an "honest" representation.

Just a plug for a couple of nice street girls... Elizabeth & Marie (Maria) stand at the corner of Constitution (in front of liquor store) where you make the left to AB...

IMHO they are 2 of the nicest SG's in TJ though I've not been to the room with them in 6 months or more. Only reason is that I've got too many favs & never get down the list to E & M...

Maria is in a special situation at present so she could use some extra biz from considerate mongers/sires... I won't post about it as some things are too personal for a blatant WWW announcement, but...

If anyone knows her or wants to know more feel free to email me and no, I don't receive a commission, hehe ;o) Just feel these chicas have an aurora of goodness about them and deserve business from kinder, gentler & appreciative sires.. Maybe a little guilt on my part thrown in as I've not done much for them of late but plan to muy pronto (if time permits) ;o)
ag

Has anyone ever had an allnighter with an SG? If so how much was it?
SB

Normal quote is $200, some drop to $100 and you may catch a rare one who will go for $40 if it's cold & her shift is over...

I personally haven't done one as I get plenty of short time for $10 to $15 a pop and really don't like to sleep over in TJ due to a number of reasons... Funny thing is, I feel like it's about time to do it though, hehe...
ag

Anybody ever do a tiny SG named Patrice??
Very good!

Tomas, you'll find that identifying a SG merely by name won't get you much of a response - there are so many that share or change names, it's hard to tell the players without a score card.

I have had all nighters with two street girls at separate times. One was forty dollars and one was sixty dollars. An all nighter meant from 11 PM to 6 AM.

Both girls went back to work when it was over.

Back to work at 6 am?????

That's Right - they both asked me to drive them back to their locations. Both girls worked until 8 AM and even longer if the rent was due or they needed money for whatever reason.

Too bad for them they only charged you $40 and $60 for an all nighter, they could have refused you, stood on the street a couple of hours longer in the night, and been able to make it home at 1 am rather than 8 am.

Whatever happened to the cross eyed street girl?

Still there as of 12 Jan.

Mariela (CEG) left TJ months ago... I don't know that she will return, on the other hand... She may be taking a long vacation or on maternity leave, hehe
ag

Question: Will most SG's go to Hotel Cascades with you when you ask them? and if so does Casacades just let you take them up..or do they make you pay a fee?
thanks, SB

When fishing for SG's with your buddies, how do you guys handle it when one of you finds an SG you would like to sample and your friends don't. I don't like to get seperated from my travel buddy when i'm down there, mainly for security reason when out and about. Say your with one travel buddy, should we both find SG's we want and take them at the same time and hope when were finished we can meet at the same time out in the alley? I ask this because on my last trip i went while he waited out in the street for me I finnaly came down after only 15min. and he was no where to be found. I looked around and finally found him spread eagle up against a policia car. They were questioning him because he looked suspicious just standing around, when in reality he was waiting for me. How do you guys handle fishing for SG's when your in a group of 2 or 3.
Thanks, SB

It's sometimes best to have your buddy wait in a nearby bar rather than on the street.. All gringos look suspicious standing in the alley... Valintinos is a good place to wait for 20 minutes (cleanest restrooms in the alley)..

No, most SG's will not go to other hotels, some will, but it is rare unless you have known them for some time... Those in front of Cascadas, of course, will go...;o)

I'm not sure that the SGs in front of Cascadas will go there. But, Cascadas does have a short term room for SGs who do use the hotel.

If you do snag a SG who will go to Cascadas, just walk her up to your room, no problem.

To add more on Cascadas - if you need a condom, they're free for hotel guest. The hotel doesn't charge extra for guests. Altogringo's right: SGs are very territorial. They're kind of like the California Garribaldi except fuckable. Just about all the SGs in front of the Hotel N (across from Hacienda) will go to Cascadas but you're reaching into the bottom of the barrel over there, unless Rosa Maria or Karla happen to be around... (prog)

Thanks guys, I will use your advice Altogringo about useing Valintinos :-)
SB

i did another one of the street girls..This one was on nino heros, her name is alehandra, nice, about 21, brown hair, 5'6", tall, a little thick, nice c cup breasts, round ass, weighs about 135 pounds, real nice smile, some freckels on her cheeks, was wearing a tight shiny yellow body dress..offered bj and sex sin ropas for $20 plus $4 for the room...really nice session, multiple positions, allowed me to spread her legs wide, and get deep penetration...finished doggie style....really nice lady...

Which side of street and how far up the hill? On Saturday there were pver 10 girls on Nino heros