Reytj,

That may be so but if I am going to talk the talk I must caminar el camino tambien.

And as long as Cascadas is pulling that extra charging for chicas when you have allready paid I will continue boycotting their rooms (long and short) and their chicas as well.

And you are right...if I am getting the $9 special from Karen why should I pay $15-20 plus an extra $5 at Cascadas?

Saving my cash for Thailand...thanks to Cascadas!!

I don't know wht I visit this thread. After just recently returning from Sonora, i feel that TJ SJ's are a waste of time and money.

Just my two cents

Only a waste if you have recently returned from Sonora or Asia, LOL

There are still bargains to be found even in an inflated SG market like TJ. Of course we don't post much about those $8 SG's who give unlimited positions, BJ, total nude with a pleasant disposition. THIS IMO is what makes it worth checking in to from time to time.

I stuck to my boycott but if it's not being done by others then what's the point?

I NEED Monica and passed her up several times due to the boycott but I won't do it alone.

Country John

I stuck to my boycott but if it's not being done by others then what's the point?

I NEED Monica and passed her up several times due to the boycott but I won't do it alone.

Country John

CJ:

No boycott for the short term rooms on the first floor, they are not the subject of the joiner fee. Go for it!

The point is that Cascadas management must realize that its the joiner fee that is causing them the loss of business, if they simply suffer a general loss, they could chalk it up to other factors, like a dip in the economy.

Way back when, JTull said:

"Saw Sandy working on beautiful Isabele at Cascades entry over the weekend. Told her to go girl, & that I wish my dance card was half as good as hers! She`s done or is in the process of doing all the hotties at the Cascades. Wouldn`t mind watching, let alone participating."

Do you really think that the long term SGs are having illicit affairs with Sandy? Really?

Thanks Explorer.

AlleyKat 13 is on the 26/27 so considering the new posts, should be some new handsome creatures out. I still don't have an Asian mate for DanTheMan visiting from Guadalajara -jeez.

Do we really know what the boycott is doing to the business?

In other posts, the point was made that there is an endless stream of fresh mongerers arriving in the zona every week. Do we know what the real deal is or are we just pissing into the wind?

Having pissed into the wind once at a very young age, I recall it as a most unproductive experience with unpleasant results. Even though those bastards will not see any more of my monger money ('cept for short term) I'd still be interested to know if the business has been impacted (if anyone knows).

I have to respectfully disagree with Explorer...I feel that as long as the joiner fee stands the boycott has to be all inclusive.

If you check it out this kind of things have been done in the past and lasted for a while...we gotta speak with our money (or witholding of it) and may be this will not happen again.

Yeah...they can chalk it up to a bad economy...or the fact that they are being bogus by double/triple charging for the room one has allready paid for.

Concarne:

If Cascadas management perceives an overall drop in business, they would have no clue why, and simply raise prices to make up the difference. On the other hand, if they notice that the overnight rooms are not being used, they might actually consider that their joiner fee is the problem. Of course, they might react by increasing the joiner fee, but that would likely cause even the worst idiots here to stop using Cascadas.

I understand your point Explorer...I should remind you that part of the boycott was to voice our displeasure both to the chicas and the management guys at the desk from time to time. I know some would say that the guy at the desk does not have any pull but the point here is repetition repetition.

And you can bet that if some of the vociferous chicas keep on being told they are not making bussiness due to Cascadas policies they will make a point of making sure somebody hears them bitch...on a daily basis!!!

Still boycotting...power to the people!

BTW, I am hitting TJ this sat for a last time in a while since I will be doing some buss trips prior to my summer adventure in LOS.

If anyone is around let me know...Oh I will be doing the morning shift since I found some freshies there last time.

Are the SG of hotel mini useing the little walk way {were you pay at the window before going up stairs}to set up shop?

I figured Hotel Minis little walkway would be a natural under the alleged lobby scheme, but so far that has not been the case. I saw a few of the Mini girls on Constition. So far, for the most part all the displaced girls have favored Constition and Ninos Heros. Cascadas seems to be the only hotel with many lobby girls.

Pretty much all the girls will line the streets of Ninos Heroes and Constitucion. Why?

Because in order to get to the alley. You have to walk either streets and they want to be first inline to grab you.

Newbies aren't gonna know where to look anyway. Plus they will feel less comfortable approaching all those girls in a small confined space.

There are around ten girls in the Cascadas lobby because they still have alot of foot traffic and hotel guests going in and out.

Thanks for the info guys.

Well...I have been hitting TJ again for the last few weeks.

All street action is back to normal...

And I am still boycotting Cascadas!! Does anyone know if the joiner fee is still in effect?

I spoke to a couple of Cascadas girls and told them I was not going there...hopefully they will bitch

"And I am still boycotting Cascadas!! Does anyone know if the joiner fee is still in effect?"

Yes and the Mini Hotel and Rizo de Oro are now charging joiner fees also. Will you be boycotting them too?

The mini?

Does anyone stay there overnight?

Damn I was thinking of starting to stay there as mi favoritas work there.

Rio as well?

Not suprised since same asshole owners as Cascadas.

And as for your answer to the question to Concarne

Yes I will boycott them as well.

Looks like I'll stick to Leyva and Coahuilia.

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Yes...I will...now that I am leaving by SD is easier!

The only reason I stayed at those shitholes was the convinience factor...I will keep my $30 thank you very much...and put it in my return to SEA asap fund.

BTW, LOS was a blast but I think I suffered from newbie syndrome. Gotta go back to fix it! Right now deciding bet LOS, Cambo,India, Dominican R. or Cuba for the next trip! Suggestions welcome...

Buenos Aires

Not as cheap as Asians but 100 times prettier girls, just look at the escort websites. However no SG action.

Also more babes than DR or cuba

I am surprised you did not mention Thailand as that place at least has some attractive SG types.

You could not pay me to go to India (except to visit the tourist sites.). One of my least favorite type of women.

I am still waiting for someone to post a picture of a hottie PI girl. I've yet to see one. To each his own.

How do you compare Latinas vs Asians?

I would take a pretty Asian over a pretty Latina any time. They really know how to please men, no body hair except a few silky ones down below, extremely flexible and mystical eyes to cry for.

Koreans are hottest in bed IMO with Vietnamese close runners up. I've not done too many Japanese but they can be wild as well.

Hey Max...I agree BA is great for the most passionate and sexy and cheap. Also, there are SG in Ba...nice looking and young.

Thanks Pecs,

I've heard so much about the escorts and bar girls that I did not realize that there was SG action there as well.

Max

LOS (land of smiles) = Thailand

BA...I thought of it but unsure. Anyways this is to be a 4-6 week stay. So plenty'o volume and options are needed.

That is why LOS is so appealing even though I just went there...Cambo and Laos close by...even India a short flight.

BA -> Brazil...mmmm I do agree that the KO level looks better in BA...I will check into that.

Pecs: Any more details on the SG action in BA? Also, are you hitting El Fracaso regularly, if so let me know next time you go. I would like to try and hang there...

Yeah thanks

I was tired when I posted and it was too late to edit my post(time limit on editing posts) after I realized I screwed up

Concarne, I'm there every Thur and Friday from about 7 till maybe 10 or 11 depending if I have a date. I'll be there tonight. Look for either 2 Asian dudes which is rare or 1 asian dude which will be me dancing usually with Carla or Claudia. Wearing greenish tshirt and black jeans.

Pecs...

I have to jet to LA today and I will not be back for a few days.

I will inbox you when I get back and we can see if we can meet there sometime. Let me buy you a couple of beers...

Cheers

Maximus...

Some comments/questions re the Mini Hotel:

I think this place should be explored as an alternative to the bogus Cascadas. I have not been there many times but for SG room they are pretty clean and tidy. Drawback is the lack of TV...perhaps no heat/AC?

I am also wondering if it is one of those place were they have a couple of dedicated rooms for the ST action. The times I have gone in the chicas have always taken me to the same room, perhaps coincidence perhaps not.

Anyone has comments?

Whatwever happen to the flow here anyways? The SG section was pumping before I went to LOS and now is kinda quiet.

I too have always been taken to the same room at the mini (like 5 or 6 sessions since October) I am always taken to the first room you can go into after turning left at the very top of the stairs. The room is on the right side of the hallway as you walk from the top of the stairs.

It's called the sucker room.

"I think this place should be explored as an alternative to the bogus Cascadas."

It has been reported that the Mini Hotel now charges a Cascadas type fee for additional sg's you wish to take to your overnight room.

A fee at the Mini now that is fucked up as
I am told there are only a few Overnight rooms in the back that are ok but they do not give you the key.

I need to check this out as I seem to stay over an hour sometime with a certain SG and so I mine as well have an overnight room. Just not sure how I can deal without having a key.

ReyTJ,

does your info come from a credible source?
I know half the people on that other site are blowing smoke and bullshitting half the time and the other half of the time they are outing fellow mongers. So many jealous and clueless mongers.

Just so much pettiness over there.

Anyway since you go quite often can you confirm this with the Mini?

"I need to check this out as I seem to stay over an hour sometime with a certain SG and so I mine as well have an overnight room."

My understanding is that it only applies starting with the second chica so you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

I do consider the reports credible but if it wasn't true I probably wouldn't want anyone else to know

As I recall the overnight rate isn't even posted.

""I do consider the reports credible but if it wasn't true I probably wouldn't want anyone else to know ""

Why not?

You cannot be held accountable for posting someone else's incorrect info.

And people here know your track record of credibility.

Reyt and Max...

I have seen the O/N rate...if I recall it is 220 pesos.

Either way...I will be hitting TJ next thur and again the following weekend. I will make sure and stop by and chat it up with the oficina people and get the neta on the TLN and extra chica surcharge if any....if true that really blows...

I believe the most effective way to combat "extra chica surcharge" is to totally fuck-up the POS (i.e. Point Of Sale). Let it be the deal breaker. Again and again and AGAIN!

Some of you cheap guys start it out for an entire month. Stay at Cascades overnight, but limit yourself to only one Cascades Chica each 24 hour period. For the rest of your 24 stay at the marbel palace feel free to enter into negotiations with a Cascades SG whenever you see the girl that you REALLY want standing across the street at the Edwardo or Teresa. Work your cheap deal in hard negotiations with the Cascades mark, start heading towards your room and let the $12 surcharge become the deal breaker.

Immediately walk across the street and hook-up with the apple of your eye standing in front of the Edwardo or Teresa or Najera. Even just walking away might work, but it would be best to let your marks see where you go, like to Cuartes Venecia chicas or the Miami or Hong Kong bar.

This can be duplicated anywhere a surcharge is attempted to be imposed. But it will likely be most effective at Cascades because the rooms across the street are only $5 bucks compared to Cascades $12 extra chica fee.

If we all work together I believe this will work. For timing I think the most effective strategy would be for the hard-core negotiators (i.e. cheap bastards) to work this for a month solid - say February. This might only be an annoyance to cascades management. - My expectation is that, at some point, they will drop the surcharge down to $5 so as to remain price competitive with the operations across the street.

But what I believe would reall kill the whole surcharge strategy would be a very large second wave of well healed, more generous gringos (like me) practicing like gangbusters the same strategy - like in droves during March. I'm talking collectively like hundreds of failed deals.

When the fat cats like me, in regular numbers, start saying NO NO NO, some fucking interesting results WILL occur (including chicas paying it themselves or rallying to getting it waved entirely) in order to not let us fat cats prowl elsewhere.

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Sorry taxguyscot-

Your strategy will not work beause only a tiny percent of the mongers who frequent the Zona belong to this board and others that are similar to it.

Second of all it won't work because even if droves of gangbusters you talk of ....got the word to implement your strategy.....once in neogotiations.... their little head would do the thinking for the big head and more times than not as we all know....the little head wins out!

Taxguy is my kind of guy....hear hear...I suggested something along those lines some moons ago. I have done it but not to the extent you suggest. Usu I talk to the chosen one and set the deal and when they said Cascadas and no to going somewhere else I make a face and say no thanks (this only for ST since i am still not staying there).

I hear Beachman's comments and the only thing I have to say is: sometimes you got to do what you have to in order to effect change.

And my SEA fund keeps on growing cuz I do not pay Cascadas room nor surcharge....let's see I am saving about $110 about every two weeks by not using Cascadas....dang is that $2860/yr??? Sounds like plane fare, hotel and pooying to me...

Ha ha

Concarne "Cascada boycotter still"

I am down there 2 to 3 times a month now. So I could stay at Cascades 4 or 5 nights a month. That means that I, myself alone, could generate 10 to 15 point of sale failures each and every month. I would not need a great number of fellow mongers to do the same without generating a lot of complaints from the Cascades marks.

My Precious Shadow. Shadow is 19 and stands on the opposite side where Hotel Najera is. She stands close to the store/resturante place along with like 3 other similar looking sg's. Shadow is Sickly Skinney! But she has NATURAL larger titties- not like freakey big- but more than ample and she allows moderate affectionate besos's of those lovely mammoriez!!!! Shadow has a scared nose, but beautiful IMHO. Long hair and this mas sound trippy; but she has a sexy LOW voice - very spanish sounding voice. She has this response when you pull her legs back or move her hand or basically when you ask her to accomodate you; she will say "no promblem, or ok no problem." She does have a really good attitude for a SG. Nice healthy black haired bush- never a stinky panoche. I keep telling myself that I want to go for the 30/60 min deal - but I have become such an alchaholic that I wouldn't be able to go more than 15 mins when doing 3 SG's in a 4 hour period- just too insane. Anyway, if your sill reading my rambling - here's some more specifics. Price is the usual $20 - no suckie but yes on Sin Ropa. She still has a tight panoche and she has the most telling eyes - very big and lively- she could EASILY be a bar girl at CC- she claims to not like the Ranchereo music because our broken spanglish conversation centered around the clubs and what one I like the best and why. Maybe she is considering being a BG ??? Anyway, I have tapped Shadow like 4 times now and she is as fresh as a fuck as the first time; I keep feeling guilty that I am boracho' when I see her for sex- she deserves respect. Anyway, I really feel a positive energy around her (Karma). Two thumbs up and a definate continual repeat. Treat her good.! Cheerz!

Metalboots

You and one other Asain guy I know are the only two that I have heard refer to her as Shadow.

She is my precious "Sharo"

Don't be suprised if she disappears for a long while very soon.


The fact that long time vet Maverick who usually posts about AB hotties recently posted about her as well, it just goes to show that there are just so few attractive Sgs en La Zona.

Mmmm....Sharo sounds interesting.

I am making a TJ unloading stop this thur...will check it out.

I though it was "Shadow," now I am wondering? I'll have to ask her to pronounce her name for me. I wish I has those milky white jello breats in my face right now.

metalboots, when and what time can i find her? let me know asap, thanks.

Every night I assume??? She has been there 7/8/9 PM on the nights I "see" her. I assume you had asked where instead of when..... Say you are comming around the corner - facing the alley (facing twards Kinkle bar, hehehe) Walk PAST the store/restuarant she is immediatly to the right standing there. She has high heals and wears white eye makeup - I hate to refere to her as this but 1) she has a scared nose 2) Citali's spot is on the opposite side of the street... so if Hotel Najara is where your at, RUN accross the street to find love. Also, I have had luck with other SGs by just asking, "Ohla, donde esta Shadow" - they are usually nice girls and will tell you "occupado," or "no sey," Hope that helpa- treat her well she is a jewel!

M3

there are SGs right near by and in front of the Mini doorway like Marisol who has nicer breasts
you should try instead and up the street is BRenda Cascadas who is a much better performer.

Forget about Sharo. Try the other known SGs first.

Hey fellows!

In preparation to my next trip to Cambodia I will start roaming the SG TJ scene to get "some endurance" in prep for the monster sessions I hope to get in C.

Will be cruising the alley and other streets either sat or sun. If anyone around please PM if you want to meet for a bit. Particularly if you have any advice to dispense re Cambodia, Colombia or Cameroon!

Hola Concarne

I was wondering what happened to you.

Are you talking next SAt and Sunday Nov5 and 6th?

Hey...what is up?

Yep, those are the dates. I am thinking of going in the AM as I have had finding some relatively fresh produce at that time. I have lucked up a couple of times w chicas just trying to pick up a little extra cash then.

Busy at work and a bit burned on Tj as well as saving some money for the upcoming SEA trip in a couple of months.

Let me know if you will be around and we can grab a beer or lunch.

Peace

Is anyone else out there annoyed by SG's who roll their old gum around between their palms? Maybe it seems wierd, but I just think it's gross.