Its on 9'th, about one-half block East of Revolution. One of about a half dozen in that immediate area. Fancy looking place both from the outside and as you enter the lobby.

I went in about 7:00 p.m. last Thursday. A security guard in the lobby called a lady to the window in the office. She quoted me $30 for an hour massage. As she lead me upstairs, it was obvious from the conversation (limited, for sure - little Spanish for me and just as little English for her) that she would be giving the massage. Her name was Jessica, she was from Sinola, and she had a very pleasant manner, looked to be late 20's, attractive and conservatively dressed in those calf high slacks and a blouse.

The room was small and looked clean, but had a distinctive odor - kind of like you find in the stair wells of down town parking garages (for you country boys, that would be piss). I'm guessing it was some kind of disinfectant, but can't be sure.

I stripped and lay down on the table while Jessica left the room briefly. I was laying face down when she returned and could hear the rustle of clothing before she began the massage. I took a peek and saw she had stripped down to her panties. She began to give me a pretty decent massage, coupled with some sensuous moves like rubbing her bare breasts up and down my back. She was also taking every opportunity to tickle me in all the right places as she did my legs.

When she had me turn over she really got down to business. I got a better look at that time and noticed she was a little plump down below, but topped off with a nicely proportioned pair of soft natural breasts. She continued the massage, working more and more to get me aroused (successfully, I might add). After awhile she made the pitch for "otro services". She quoted $30 for HJ, $60 for BJ and $100 for FS. Preferring to conserve both my fiscal and physical resources for ZN, I declined. She took it in good spirits (actually, I told her I'd give her a tip). Unlike some of the other places I've been in, she continued the massage and kept me occupied for the full hour. She did ask me to massage her for awhile and did continue the sensuous touch, with a few more gentle reminders about the "otro services".

I ended up giving her a tip of $20. All-in-all, not a bad session. I'll put GQ on my "revisit" list.

Funny, those are the exact prices you can pay here in the Bay Area.

Islandboy

You're right - the prices for the extras are the same as here in LA/OC. I save more getting a "massage" local (don't have to pay for gas to TJ).

The level of service I receive in the "sagi" places up here is miles above what I receive in TJ. From start to finish the Korean/Hispanic joints offer a superior experience. However, I'm a fan of street meat so that is where I can be found when I have a couple of extra bucks to spend. If I feel like a massage I can drive 20 minutes. If I feel like submerging myself in pure sin, banging every little brown princess that crosses my path, then I get on the 5 south.

I tend to stay away from the "sagi" joints now because that kind of money now equals a whole day of entertainment (gas, parking, food, street girls). Can't beat that deal...

E

$20 BJ! Negociate! The prices quoted are exactly twice what I pay in a massage parlor in TJ. You are the girls best chance for extras so bargain. A $20 tip should get you a BJ in almost any MP in TJ.

$20 bj, who are you kidding? Do you mean in the alley? well in that case yeah. I don't know any chick that will give a $20 blowjob in a mp. If you direct me to one, I'll give you $20.

Wendy's MP is $20 for one hour. Then Celeste will massage the back, ask you to turn over and then you negotiate. If youare a nice guy, very polite but firm you can get a BJ for $20.
You owe me $20.

I'll give you the $20 when I get the bj.

In most of those places the only income the lady gets is what she can drum up for extra services. For her, it may come down to $20 for a BJ vs. nothing for a one hour massage. You, on the other hand, have nothing to lose - you've already paid you money and received your massage. Why not $20? The only risk would be that you piss her off at that offer and get a lousy massage.

Have you got a $20 bj? I haven't. In some of these places girls won't give$20 handjobs anymore. I've paid $30 for a few handjobs. I prefer to pay $20 but hey, if she's hot and I'm ready why not another $10 than having to go somewhere else and end up paying more.

I get a $20 BBBJ every massage, but only because the chica knows me.

I understand the financial logic of the mp chicas caving in to a stern negotiator. But I gotta say, despite trying my best, I'm not getting any to agree to any $20 BJs either...at least not any whose lips I'd care to have wrapped around my unit. So like El Fuego, I'll cave in if I'm attracted and aroused, and kick in what it takes to get the job done (within reasonable limits). I guess when they got us by the balls, they got us by the balls!

It just seems that many of these chicas are able to maintain the self-delusion that they aren't sex workers if they keep their price at a certain level.

Im just a nice guy so I get $20 BJs

I don't think I know you, but I really am having a hard time believing you. I would believe a freebie before a $20 BJ. I happened to get a freebie yesterday by a new girl at Miami. I took her to the movies and we ended up at villa zaragoza and well.....I've gotten tons of freebies as my friends will vouch for me, but $20 BJ's no way.

Just my opinion, but getting $20 bbbj is a lot easier than getting freebies. Only one masseuse gave me a $20 bbbj on the first session, but in all honesty she never even quoted me a price - I just asked if she did it and she went right to work.

I have been told by others that mongers have tipped her as low as $15 for that. The other $20 bbbj's were after repeat sessions with various girls - never on the first session -- I was getting volume pricing.

This girl is a sweetie and never discusses price - she does the deed and leaves it to the monger to decide what to pay.

I have had only one lady give me a freebie and it happened after her monger had left the VZ hotel on his way to work on Monday morning. I was at the same hotel with an overnighter and this girl just called my room and asked if she could come down. My amiga for the night was just leaving, but we all talked for about and hour and drank beer. After my amiga left the girl that came down started getting real romantic with me and next thing we were going after each other.

El Cochino, at the risk of sounding like Explorer in the WF debates, if you knew El Fuego, you would understand why he gets freebies. What I wonder about when it comes to El Fuego, is why he is EVER willing to pay? The best answer I have been able to come up with is that he crash landed on this planet...launched from another world a bit more than 2 decades ago...another world whose inhabitants appear human, but have no limits on their capacity and desire to have sex.

That's way too funny. I am by no means superman, well, maybe I am but still that's very funny. I'll be in chicago around 9pm, who else will be there?

I have had the distinct pleasure of seeing El Fuego get shot down and it made the zona a much-leveler playing field for me. Now, on the other hand I have seen him with some of the most beautiful "non-zona" latinas ever and then there's that whole "S" situation which doesn't make him an alien...but a God!

ElF: I dont spend that much time in TJ, do not speak a word of Spanish (well maybe 2 words, si & gracias) and would never commit to a long term or even long time relationship with a girl in TJ. But I am a salesman and I can negociate. The power of negotiation depends on leverage. With the best girls in AB on a saturday night even WF has no leverage. When you are in a MPnd the girl has spent 20 min. massaging your back and you are the only source of income for the next 40 min then the guy has leverage. And I do get $20 BJs in MPs. If you dont then take a Dale Carnegie course or quit calling me a liar.

694me:

I have no reason to doubt you, but your negotiating logic extends to SGs and club girls, too. The client always has leverage.

So, I guess you do SGs for 100 pesos, and the chicas in Hottie Central for $30.

You guys just dont go to the right MP's. I live in the Ventura/Oxnard area and frequent a MP in oxnard. The Massage is $40 for half hour (if they are not busy you can take up to an hour) and you get FS with no mention of money usually and they are very happy to get $40. I once even got FS for $20 (new girl). When they mention money I have never seen one go over $60. And I go every week. Hell if you frequent one of the girls (ask for them when you come in) they get to really like you. I have one that I see on her days off and it doesnt cost me a thing. (Except she keeps hinting that she wants to marry me, but I keep telling her no. I tell her that if she wants to marry she needs to learn to speak english. She is Korean)

Ex8939 : SGs for $10 is not unusual but I usually go for the extras and the better looking ones. I leave the leftovers for WF & Rodger (just kidding)

694me, if you are getting SGs for $10 instead of 100 pesos, you're doing better than the locals (well, not counting the crack whores in front of Najera, then you're overpaying).

The crack whores are $5 and I pass.