I was stunned when it happened. I've been to AB about 25 or so times and never had any problems.
My amigo and I were recharging after our first round of chicas when when 2 chicas plopped themselves down beside us and the party began. We didn't have a lot of cash left, but we had enough to buy a few rounds of drinks for these very friendly ladies. My amigo decided he wanted to take his upstairs. I was low on cash and wanted to do the same, so we whipped out our stash and tallied it up... enough for just one of us to go. Off went my amigo. Right after he and his chica leave, my chica asks how much I have. I told her I had about $30. She says "no problem, lets go". I was stunned she'd go so cheap. We get to the hotel desk, I pull $11 out of my wad to pay for the room. Before handing it to the clerk, I lean to her and quietly say "only about $20 left... it's ok"? She again assures me "no problem". I pay the clerk, and off we go. once we got to the room, I paid her the $20. We engaged in a bit of foreplay. About 5 minutes into it she says "you relax, I go get oil for you". I say "no, it's ok, no oil". She continues putting her clothes on, says she'll be right back, and leaves the room. I sat there about 10 minutes or so before I gave up on her coming back. I put on my clothes and went back down to AB. There she was, sitting with her amigas. I see my usual waiter, and tell him what happened. He was acted shocked that I was complaining about $20 and didn't seem to care that I had just been conned by a chica. I suspect he thought it was just communication problems. My amigo returns, I tell him what happened, he tells the manager, the manager points at some policia near the door, and says "tell them". At that point I figured if the AB staff didn't care about what happened, I wasn't going to pursue it. We left. I figure the best revenge will be to let her see me dropping lots of $$ on other chicas in the future.

Note to newbies: Adelita's rocks! Do not let this story deter you from trying it. I've never been ripped off there before, and I doubt I ever will again.

What was her name and description? The best revenge is publicly outing her as a ripoff artist!

I am shocked. This is a major scam. Do you have any idea how far of this event was? I have had girls not trying to get me off. You can't really put your finger on something vague like that, but leaving without providing is a major violation of all "common law" in the brothel business. How is your spanish, are you sure that the AB manager that day did know what happened?
Next time I would not hesitate to complain to the manager. Never talk to the cops.

OUCH! Only suggestion I would have would have been to tell the hotel guy (who should have seen her leave alone after 2 minutes in the hrrroom) and not wait to get back to the bar. Your description of the indifference of management in the bar is kinda disturbing. I have never really heard of this kind of thing happening at AB before. Bummer for you, man.

As far as her seeing you drop bigger $$ on other chicas, see if you can spot who her friends are!

I agree that this is definitely a situation where it is appropriate to post a name and description.

I say we send in somebody who has never been and will never go again. This person takes her to the room and cums all over her face, does anybody know peter norths number.

I think we should hook her up with WestFargo!

Critico....I am interested in knowing why you did not post the girl's name. We need to know The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly on this board. Without names reports lose some of their importance.

I don't remember her name. I may not have even asked. I'd post a description, but it would fit too many other chicas as well. At this point, even if I found out her name I don't think I'd post it. This event was unique enough that unless she does it regularly, she'd likely know who posted it, and I might be subjected to further harassment of some sort. I know that sucks, and I have no balls, but AB is a place where I like to go and be comfortable... no enemies.

Dude, no offense, but why would you even post about the thing if you had no intention of informing on the bitch? Your rationalization don't make much sense--girls who do this kinda shit don't do it once in a blue moon and then become nice normal chicas. If she ganked you, she's ganked others, almost a sure bet. And if you're really convinced that it WAS a unique event, then YOU'RE ALREADY BUSTED cause you mentioned it at all--she won't need to see her name, right? And she was RIGHT THERE IN THE BAR and you didn't say ANYTHING to her??? Wish I could understand where ya comin' from, bro. I mean, I feel for ya gettin' took, but don't get your approach at all. Takes all kinds and all styles, I guess. I sure as fuck wouldn't have gone out like that, even if she only got ya for $20...

I'm with Ritmo on this one... Why the fuck go through all the trouble to even posting if you're not willing to find out or tell us who she is. Did this really happen or are you some kind of freak who likes to make shit up? ... (prog)

Yeah! Nobody ever makes up shit and posts it on this board! That would be vewy vewy wrong

Tell us who she is...now! If you don't we're gonna make you give us each $20

You only paid 20 dollars so you only got 10 minutes.Seems fair to me.

This is a very informative thread.

Yes tell us who she is, por favor. I can just see her talking to here amigas telling them how easy it was to pull this stunt off, next thing you know it will be a somewhat of a challenge between the bottom of the barrel chicas to see how far they can jack us over. Elfuego3570..yes a North pole geyser is in order (LOL)....spppluuoch...no me gusta...mi ojos.
SB

1) If you don't post her name, it didn't happen.

2) You paid before getting any services, so you lost. End of story.

Critico,
Don't be afraid of her. Just as the managament won't help you. They also won't help her. I've complane in Mexico about everything all the time to everybody and I NEVER get help. But you must remember although the Mexicans won't help Americans for obious reasons they usually never help their own countrymen too.
With that in mind you have to have a vigilanty attitude. I think the other guys think your lieing. But all you have to do is meet Roger and I under the heater Friday night at 10:00PM and point her out. We'll either follow her around calling her names. And really rude shit too. I tell the waiter that she's rude and try to pick a fight with her. Or I'll say I'll pay $100 for her and take her to the room. And leave without paying.
I really don't care. And I'll be back in the AB a few nights later too. Mexico is a really funny place.
Do you read commic books? The people are right out of a commic book. This is a country where the leader of 32 diffrent mofia leaders just met last month with the government so the government can get them to stop shipping drugs through Mexico. It was held in Tasacloa Newvo Leon, out of the 32 guys 6 were on the top 10 most wanted criminals in Mexico. Why didn't the police arrest them? That's a question only stupid Americans would ask!
Also, this is a country that is a war with rebels that have killed thousands and the top leader who is public enimy #1 Rebal "commander Marco" just got through with a parade thrue 10 states of Mexico paid for by the governement. Beleive me, you can't get in trouble for not paying for a gal if she doesn't give good service.
However, if I were you I wouldn't dare spit in public, J-walk, be drunk, act stupid, defend yourself, Drive, or talk to anybody that includes Americans too. You can go to jail for a long time for any of those offenses. Why? You obviously don't read commic books!

10:00PM friday night, in the AB under the heater.
Don't pussy out too. Remember, you were outsmarted by a bunch of 18 years old twig chewing farm people. How does that make you feel? Bad! Just remember pay after the sex. That would have saved me the trouble of writing this shit. But you did the right think by writing. This board is for Information that includes experiences Good and Bad, lets make her life miserable and help out some other people. It get so boring in the AB sometimes. We need to liven it up a little. Lets rumble!!!!!

Westfargo...

"Do you read commic books? The people are right out of a commic book."

HA! Look who's talkin'!

Btw, Westie, just for clarification, is a "commic" book a communist comic book?

When I was in guadalajara i went to the Comanche(I think that was the name).So I made the deal with the girl and she said O.K. give me the money. She explained that you paid in the bar and she gives the money to the dude at the cash register.What?????? So I went and asked the guy if thats how its done there, he said yes.Needless to say I was real friggin hesitant,But they had this register that was set up apart from the regular bar register and i saw a couple of guys going over there and then disappear with a girl.So enventually I went for it,but in the back of my mind i was thinking id get ripped off. What happened? Everything went perfect- great sex and no request for any tip afterwards.I wounldn't do that shit in tijuana though.

10:00 Friday night at AB under the hot water heater. Damn. Now that sounds like something that might be fun to see what happens.

Hey, Critico, for what it's worth, if you are going to post a story like that you really should give the chica's name. If someone wants to rise to her defense they will and the readers can draw their own concludsions.

Credibility on this board doesn't come from one story no matter what the subject. Continual sharing does. Even if the poster is a little wacky sometimes. Otherwise, it is just a waste of people's time.

Kind of like watching a movie and having the last 10 minutes cut off. Or paying for sex and having the chica pull a run right before you cum. Everyone feels cheated.

Hey, Critico...

Did this chica have dark hair?
Did she dress kind of slutty?
Did she smoke?
Did she say she's only been in TJ for a month or two?
And lastly, did she appear to be Latina?

I think I might know her!

TELL US WHO SHE IS, ALREADY!

Sheetwise,
I've been to a number of bars like that too. If there in central Mexico. Not in Guadalajara, But Tonalah or San Rio. Thats OK. They don't make a living fucking the Americans. But in TJ that's a no no.

San_puto,
I've seen that one too. She's just like all the rest in the AB. A piece of shit.

Critico

I recently had a similar bad experience with a girl at AB, and the reaction I got from the AB management was the exact oposite that you had.

I'm usually fairly good at picking out the good attitude girls, but this time I was fooled. I hit it off pretty good (downstairs anyway) with this girl. I found her attractive so I gave her a $20 offer. Without even the slightest hesitation she accepted my offer, and off we went.

Upstairs after about 30 seconds kissing, and sucking her tits she suddenly pushed my head away and said "stick it in and cum, cuz thats all the time you get for $20". We were speaking Spanish the whole time but I basically said fuck that it's 45min here, if you had a problem with the price you should have asked for more money". She got up in my face and started saying she was going to go to the police, and that they would beleive her instead of me. This girl was so worked up I honestly thought I might have to fight off this bitch right there in the hotel room. But I just smiled and said "We'll see (vamos a ver)"

We began putting our clothes on, and she left first, and I followed about 30 seconds later. When I got outside of the hotel there she was with the manager on the sidewalk, screaming in HIS face. I just stood quietly and waited for her to finish. By the time she was done, two of TJ finest had wondered about 10 feet from where I was standing. I then walked up to the manager and quietly told him my side. Even though I wasn't talking loud, he asked that I keep my voice very low so the cops don't hear, because he said if the cops got involved they would end up with the money, and it would just cause problems for her, me and the bar. He quickly said he would get my money back for the room, and half of the girls money back for me. I insisted that I didn't get what I paid for, and I wanted all the money back. After a few minutes of calm discussion, making my case, He agreed to retrieve all the money I gave her and return it to me.

hi chargers

i read your post.
i quess you get what you pay for
do you get a lot of girls that will accept 20 dollars cheerfully ?
i have always thought adelita girls charge between 40 to 80 dollars.
unless you are a regular customer and it is not a busy day.
well take care and have fun
milkman

Ripped off by a Mexican whore? Imagine that....

Chargers:

If you paid before you got service .... well ... you were asking to be ripped off.


WestFargo:

"Americans don't belong in Mexico"

????? Does this mean that you're never coming back to TJ?

Critico still hasn't given us her name!!!

Mexico City IS full of thieves.

Whores lie.

BUT thisn't to say that whores are pieces of shit.

Diego, I look forward to the day that you meet StrikingViking in the ZN.

They'd hit it off just fine. I've barhopped with Diego and you have a blast, likewise fargo. Briefly with SV however, I usually see him the day after I've spent the night in TJ and probably too burnt to be too aware of much except should I try and do one more or split in time to beat the traffic.

Now there would be your ideal TJ "crawl", Fargo, Diego....and well anyone else! Those two (along with Roger, WF's buddy of course) will show you an experience you won't soon forget.

Redondgo,

So you're saying, don't knock Diego until you've met him in the ZN.

Now, that's original!

Milkman

There are a lot of factors that goes into what you get for your money. Some of them are, but not limited to, your attitude, her attitude, how long she's been in the zona, your looks, your personality, her personality, her tasts in men, chemistry, ect.

I regularly get multi-hour, anything goes, secessions from girls for $20-$30. I don't get to the zona very often, so every time i'm there, there are always new girls (FOB if you will) there that I've never meet before. Who the week before were working for $50 a week at the local grocery store back in Silaloa.

But I guess in this case I did get what I paid for, which was nothing, because I got every penny back from that beeeach.

Chargers, thanks for providing an example of what can happen when you stand up for yourself when you've been ripped off. I hope that I would do the same thing if I was in the same situation. But everyone is different, and you were undoubtedly aided in no small part by being able to converse with no small amount of skill in Spanish, plus are a bit of a Zona veteran. Chances are pretty good that there are others that wouldn't fare as well.

Explorer, your point about paying afterwards has been discussed before ad nauseum. So you're a nazi about it... We get the point. Doesn't mean there's some sort of contributory negligence on a monger's part when some cunt decides to ROB HIM, which is exactly what is being described here.

Diego, thank god for the bully pulpit of the internet, huh? Where else can you get to stand up and shout your redneck views and not get (deservedly) the ever living shit kicked out of you by the people you're talking shit about behind their backs? Call them lying piece of shit putas to their faces. Oh, maybe you did, and THAT'S what led to those pesky domestic violence episodes...

Westfargo, I think as fatdude does, and I have been to Juarez AND Rosarito so I must be one of the elite 1%?
Seriously, WF, you only sound like 50% of the Redneck that Diego does in the above post. I'm sensing an ideological battle's about to be waged for the hearts and minds of the whoreboard lowlifes. May the 'best man' win.

I am inclined to agree with Porker, and I have been EVERYWHERE in Mexico, for long lengthes of time. All these horror stories that Diego and WF come up with never seem to happen to me. Maybe God just watches my little ass. Or maybe I treat people with respect, and expect (not hope, expect, if necessary demand) to be treated with respect. Or maybe I am just a lying NE monger who only gets to TJ once a year.

It seems all these guys trying to get pussy for rock bottom prices are the ones having all these bad experiences. I go to TJ regularly, many times by myself, and have yet to be mugged, cheated, robbed, etc. If you're nice to people most times they're nice in return. Those that aren't, tell them to fuck off! And yes I've been to other parts of Mexico, in fact I'm going to Mazatlan at the end of the month because I enjoy it. Mexico (TJ in particular) is not for everyone, so if you don't like it, the solution is simple. Stay the hell out and leave it for the rest of us. BTW, I'll be at AB Saturday day watching the Lakers and CC at night should you care to say hello.

Harry

"It seems all these guys trying to get pussy for rock bottom prices are the ones having all these bad
experiences."

Brother HJohnson is on to somethin'. I mean, a dude goes around tellin' chicas the MOST they're worth is $3.99, AND they gotta submit to a flashlight check to get THAT, and that he intends to stuff both his arms up her pussy after the flashlight check, and this attitude is the same attitude that characterizes ALL his actions in Mexico, and he winds up havin' bad experiences with locals. Duh!

Well said SV. Welcome back. You are back are you not?

Harry

Ismeralda & Kenya - Ripoff !

Stay away from Ismeralda & Kenya at AB.
All dancers out there provide the worst service
& want to take off very early.

Avoid the strippers

Sorry if you had a bad experience. How about more details so what the problem was?

It is not true that all of the strippers at AB give bad sessions. From personal experience and that of friends, I can tell you that it is not true of Valeria, Claudia (daytime), Jessica, or Gloria.

It is definitely not true that the stripper at Adelitas are to be avoided. There are a lot of us who will take the opposite position beside just saying YMMV.

Africa is about the only ice queen stripper that I could not get to warm up and therefore never took her upstairs.

I agree with Hippie, post the details about your experience.

And keep in mind, the time of day is directly related to their earning potential so at prime times, every minute wasted in the room afterwards means less money. You would want to get back downstairs too.

I have had several of the strippers at AB over the past three years. I think it would be unfair to say ALL are to be avoided.

I have had some GREAT sessions with Gloria. She is a sweetheart and, in my opinion, deserves to be nominated for the mythical Hall of Fame.

I had some wonderful times with Samira. She left recently, but is planning on cuming back in a few weeks.

I did Ismeralda one time and had a good time.

Jessica is one of the hottest girls at AB.

So, I am like the others who want to hear the details of the ripoffs.

Kenya ROCKS!

My guess is you pissed her off.

But, don't worry Bro. I'm going down next weekend and I'll get your money's worth!

Perla still dances, right?
She's been a favorite of mine not only for her hot looks, but for really sweet sessions upstairs. Truly a great provider, and not at all to be avoided.

No, wait. Never go up with her. All that much more for those of us who know how good she is.

Hey Shadow, this may be a different Kenya. There are two now.

Cardinal, I have not seen Perla dance in a few weeks. I wish she would.

Hippie

Seen our mutual aquaintance around lately?

See you Sunday

Hippie/everyone...I'll add my voice to the choir singing Gloria's praises. And it is so rare to see any poster mention Valeria's name. In the past year and a half that I have been frequenting Adelita's she is my favorita. Killer body (athletic and firm), natural C-breasts, enthusiastic upstairs and no attitude. She leaves town frequently to visit GDL but when she is in Tijuana she is in the bar every day.

Another dancer that knocks me out is Isabella. I have been drooling over both her and Kenya for a while now but haven't taken the plunge...Bosco

Bosco, Valeria was my first repeat in TJ. I was also surprised she was not mentioned more, although she did get some coverage on Redsnake. Remember, she also goes by Stephanie. Everything you say is true, although she has put on some weight and started wearing some really bad wigs. Her business is definitely down some.

Shadow, I assume you mean Kenya. She is not my type so I don't really pay much attention, but I have definitely seen her lately.

Hippie...at least a couple of those messages on RedSnake about Valeria were posted by me. I first saw her mentioned in a post by Prime. His comments on her personality and friendliness inspired me to approach her. She did introduce herself to me as Stephanie. In fact, Prime and I were e-mailing eachother back and forth for a while trying to decide if we were talking about the same person.

And I agree: her wigs are ghastly. My Spanish is not good enough to tell her in a kind way to ditch them. Several months ago she turned up one time without a wig or extensions. It was obvious because her hair was shorter and not as 'big' as usual. Her hair looked nice. I don't know why she covers it up. I made a point of complimenting her on it. She gave a half-smile but did not say 'thank you' or anything. I assume her hair is a delicate subject for some reason and didn't pursue it...Bosco

I guess I just got lucky and caught her during a brief wigless period. The first few times I did her, she was not wearing the wig. She told me that she used to go by Valeria, but now goes by Stephanie, but still dances by Valeria. Uh huh, makes sense to me too.