This is the pre-trip Facebook pictorial. Everytime I have been to Angeles City there seems to be those blackout hours where the hottest women are unavailable. You know what I mean...you get there and it seems like all of the good looking ones have been taken. Its all about timing and the best looking ones are usually taken if you snooze and get out on the town late. Your personal looks really dont matter...what matters is that you are there before the premium ladies are swapped up. I am not a man who likes to waste his time looking so I decided to get on Facebook and make arrangements pre-trip.

So I am going to line them up here as I go hunting them down on Facebook. Already made arrangements with two ladies and will send a few more invites in a few.

So without further ado, I am going to post up the ones I found and this will be like American Idol where you get to vote which ones will appear during the trip. I will add more to this pictorial as I do my homework:















(Message edited by Portege on August 05, 2010)

You are researching pictures of girls on the internet prior to a mongering trip, in a place with plenty of pussy? I think you are wasting your time.

Meet the girls along the way; pre-arranged "dates" hardly ever work out and worse might ruin a trip.

OK here's my pics, no pun intended. 1 2 3 5right 8 10 11far right

Interesting idea, but I agree with Cincoleche that you could ruin your trip as each girl will try to lay exclusive claim to you.

Letting this happen will make you a burden if you're going to AC with friends. I'm speaking from experience here as a long time friend got his wing monger card revoked by me when he let a 3000 peso/night Crystal Palace girl tag along with him every damn day.

If you haven't shown your true face or name yet the ball is still in your court as you can find out where they work and check them out anonymously

"You are researching pictures of girls on the internet prior to a mongering trip, in a place with plenty of pussy? I think you are wasting your time."


You are right there is plenty of pussy...but you are going to have to really hunt to find the ones you want. IMHO the vast majority of women in Angeles have some type of flaw like bad dental work, chunky bodies, stretch marks and the like. A lot of times you get there and the women you want are simply unavailable because others have taken the premium women.

Well, you can get the premium women in AC if you are willing to pay double the rate at places like Atlantis. The 3000+peso women though are not guaranteed to give you a good time and they still can run out the door early. Otherwise, you are going to have to get lucky being in the right time and place.








Now here is one that seems unique. I have met very few women in Angeles who could get away posing like this...this one seems like one of those women at the rice rocket shows in Southern California.





(Message edited by Portege on August 06, 2010)

Now here is the Facebook prize. If you tried to find this woman in Angeles at any given time, you wont find her even if you locked down Fields and had a Batallion of soldiers looking through every room.

I have looked through all of the pictures on Clubhombre and could not find anyone who came up with something like this in Angeles and this is why I am doing this little Facebook project.

Well, you can get the premium women in AC if you are willing to pay double the rate at places like Atlantis. The 3000+peso women though are not guaranteed to give you a good time and they still can run out the door early. Otherwise, you are going to have to get lucky being in the right time and place.

And these girls all come with guarantees they will stay as long as you want and fuck you silly right??

Life's a crapshoot and sometimes you actually hit the crap.

You are right Khun_mor, there are certainly no guarantees. In fact, I barfined one of the 3000 peso women from Atlantis. The sex wasnt really that good, she insisted on ordering the most expensive thing on the menu (room service) and then made an excuse to leave early. There was no doubt she was good looking, but the service was by far sub-prime when compared to my pulls out of the other smaller bars.

There were other women who wanted to stay with me until I kicked them out, some wanted to stay half-way through the night or left on their own in the morning. Only a very few made an excuse to leave right after the sex act. All gave me sex in any event.

So it is truly a gamble...

If you tried to find this woman in Angeles at any given time, you wont find her...

Portege, don't take offense to this but I don't see anything special to that girl (but I look at her from mostly the perspective of the girls I see in Rio). Never been to AC, but it seems to me that there must not be many girls that meet "your type" -- which apparently is slender, bikini-model type. I mean if you don't like short, rounded-face, nice but not terribly sexy girls, then maybe you should go to another destination(i.e. Thailand).
You can't go to McDonalds and expect to order a medium-rare filet mignon (when it just doesn't exist on the menu).

And most guys agree, that the top-shelf girls (in the looks department) are usually duds in the sack. So, just based on what you posted here it seems like you are doing a lot of hard work that come rather easily in other locales (albeit more expensive).

Anyway, if you seek the hottie bikini girl who also provides good service then maybe you should research Thailand, Colombia, Brazil....or places in general where it is known for girls who look sexy in a bikini.

Your "unique" picture is obviously photoshopped.

EA

Yup definitely photoshopped. AC is more of a place to have a good time and realize the benefit of sex being like pizza. When it's good it's really good. and when it's not, it's still pretty good.

Just get plenty of slices and you're bound to have some really good ones. I prefer Subic over AC girl wise these days. The ratio of attractive bar girls to punters is better since not a lot of people really go to Subic.

Portege - I think Cincoleche is right. The girls you have pictures of are a dime a dozen in Rio. You should definitely try Rio.

I do disagree that the better looking ones are are duds, it all depends on chemistry. I think in all my years of P4P I've had a handful of duds and I have high expectations. I have to like them so the interview process is critical before I take anyone. Looks alone do not make great chemistry.

(Message edited by snooky on August 06, 2010)

Portege,
IMO, there is nothing wrong with doing the research while you are back in the states when you have plenty of free time. If the facebook girls don't work out for whatever reason the bar girls will always be there. I look forward to seeing how this approach works out.

Be careful though, many of these girls use sites like Facebook, DIA and Filipina hearts to scam money from guys. I would bet any money that your "unigue girl" is really a guy who downloaded that photo from an internet site to try to scam money from unsuspecting "friends". It is always a good idea to try to chat with the girls on YM before you spend much time on them. That way you can see if they really look like their pictures.

Good luck with your project. Please post how it works out.

I agree it's getting harder and harder to find the hotter girls in the bars, it's pretty much the luck of the draw of being in the right place at the right time.

Wether you get girls from faceook or on the ground it's all a crapshoot.

Those girls may not look anywhere near as good in person as they do in the photos, they may not deliver anywhere near what they promise, it's all the same crapshoot either way.

A few of those will likely workout just like a few would work out very well you met on the ground in AC.

I havent read a trip report where someone reported on the 3000 peso women. I dont think anyone here tells you how much they paid for the women.

My experience with that one 3000 peso woman should not represent the entire group. It was in the context of a 3some and she might have been turned off by the idea so she left. I may have said something or she just wasnt in to it. She may also have been unique to the group in ways of attitude. She should not represent all of them. Also, because she was 3000 pesos doesnt mean she was better looking then some of the other 1300 peso women I found. In the last report, many of the other women did appear better looking to me. Some of the 1300 peso women got more votes too...

Club Atlantis tries to put together the best looking women they can find in one big group so a monger doesnt have to hunt for hours looking for that one. There are just as good or better looking women at the other clubs, but they do get taken fast and thats the challenge. The old way was to get to the clubs when they opened and hang out there for an hour. Usually when I got to the bars later then I would not get a woman that was acceptable to myself. Instead, I would find some obviously chubby or ladies with obvious signs of childbirth...bad dental work, surgical scars...ugh. So the premium you pay on the barfine is a finders fee. They found a bunch of women without the usual Angeles City defects so you have to pay more.

A lot of the South American women look magazine quality...there is no doubt about that. I dont think guys go to Angeles City for the looks of the women though unless they are like me and kind of favor these types of looks. I think a lot of guys go there because the women know English enough to hold a half-ass conversation, the women are generally pretty sweet and they welcome Americans. South America on the other hand you need to know the language and you may not get that GFE time...

In any event, there are no guarantees on any trip. There is usually a 15-20% "Dud" rate where the woman you barfine turns out to be a bad time. Oftentimes, these encounters are not placed in the trip reports so you dont really know about them. I dont put all the bad encounters in my reports simply because I dont think anyone wants to read about a bad time.

I think it was a recent Argentina thread that had someone (Sorry, don't remember who) show some examples of pictures of girls on websites and the reality of the girl that actually showed up. It was an eye opener for me....I certainly would take any photo sent to me with a grain of salt...in the best case it might be the absolutely best angle of her (after 100 photos were taken), and the worst it was photoshopped to the point of putting the head of one girl on the body of another.

I've done a number of 3000P girls, it's pretty much hit or miss, about the same as the regular priced BF would be.

Some awesome, some not so good for GFE, but I will say from my experiences the higher priced BF girls I had would all rate much better than the ave priced girl in porn star performance.

I posted a pic of a girl from LACafe here on the site, it was the perfect pose, perfect angle, everything damn near perfect and the pic recieved a high rating, but when I seen this girl out of her clothes I'd never BF her again, it was just the perfect pic.

I vote "Yes" for most of those girls.

Seriously, now, a few observations based on my experience:

If you know just a few words of Portuguese--literally--you can have a lot of GFE experiences. Yes, the language can be a barrier to a certain level of interaction, but not to having great sex. I'm soon going to find out what happens in Colombia when you know only a few words of Spanish...

As far as your 15% to 20% "dud" rate--since I joined CH and learned about professional mongering, my "dud" rate has been one in 15 or 20, and some of those are one of the ones in a threesome. A combination of choosing venues and interviewing prospects, together with a developed intuition and the ability to make the big head overrule the little head at times, reduces the chances of disappointment.

Some of my best experiences in AC have been with Santos Street girls, and with non-bar girls who are available. Some of these are a little older than the 20 y.o.'s many mongers prefer, but I'm old enough that a 25-y.o. is plenty young for me. And the price is right: 500 pisos for ST, 1000 for LT, 1500 for a really good 24 hours. And great GFE, even PSE sometimes (duplas).

re: 3000 pesos girls

On my last trip in July, I had an inordinate amount of pesos left over (probably because I focused on pulling girls from Santos/Raymond streets.) So I decided that I was going to barfine a 3000 peso girl. I went to all the usual haunts (Atlantis, Dollhouse, Blue Nile, Golden Nile) and ended up barfining a regular girl.

The reason, I didn't see a 3000 pesos girl that justified the double price. If I'm going to pay that much for the girl, I will expect her to be top 5% and make sparks fly out my ass. On this particular night, it didn't happen.

I did pound the living crap out of the 1500 peso girl I barfined and she took it like a champ.

YMMV

EA

"I have looked through all of the pictures on Clubhombre and could not find anyone who came up with something like this in Angeles and this is why I am doing this little Facebook project."

Then you havent read my trip reports. I can go back and find 10 girls that blow away any of those old chicks from facebook. No need to go on facebook but Date In Asia has a lot of girls working in AC and that can be fun.

I also think that AC is one of the few places where the service does not decrease with hot looking girls..its just tough to find them.

Before everyone/anyone jumps on Sir Blazers comment and setting aside the reference to his trip report, I didn't find anything about any of the facebook girls that was any different from the run of the mill local stuff. And yes, I do not point to the grotesquely photoshopped one to be included.

YMMV, but I consider time spend surfing facebook to line up some action in AC a complete waste of time and useless.

DM- Agreed; one may have to hit several bars, but it is really not that hard to find talent superior to the FB girls pictured above. Frankly, given that a person can assume any identity they wish on FB and post pictures that are photoshopped or completely fabricated, I wouldn't spend a second using FB as a resource.

Here's how you find the hotties in AC: you go and look for them. Walk in and out of bars until you see what you like. The search is actually fun.

i consider advice from portege as useless. it used to be a waste of time also but i don't bother to read it now. so i don't waste the time. but i'm sure it is still useless.

remember the "advice" he was providing on pattaya. BEFORE he even went there..........

and the "advice" we got AFTER he made the trip. that was probably worse than the advice given before he made the trip.

First, in regards to photography, the real mark of a film photographer is how they can handle themselves in the dark room. Back in the day, the photographer was not only expected to take the picture, but to develop them and thats what makes Ansel Adams so great. Also, the whole thing about "RAW" is to stop the camera from post-processing so that you can better manipulate the picture in photoshop. So Im not worried when a photographer uses photoshop...I am worried when a photographer puts down and does not use photoshop. That tells me they dont know the tools of their trade or the history behind post-processing. You can go ahead and google Ansel Adams darkroom and see how everyone raved about how he could manipulate the photos in the darkroom. Back then, it was a positive to be able to manipulate photos.

Second, I am not in disagreement on the looks of the women in South America. I think some of them look truly Playboy quality. I also think I could find a better looking woman more quickly in Colombia or Brazil then in Angeles City. However, this thread isnt about South American women, but Angeles City women on Facebook. I would be interested in someone starting a Facebook thread about the women in Colombia if you could and send me the links to their profiles via private message;) I would expect the pictures from the South American ladies facebook accounts to be nothing less then fantastic.

Third, for many years I have been on the same trek to Angeles City sometimes changing the hotel and other things, but its been the same game over and over again. I can only sit so long at a table playing the same card game again and again. I look to change things up and so I am trying something new by seeking them out on Facebook. I too used to wonder why there were guys out there that would do things like have the ladies meet them at the airport, stay with one lady for a few days, travel around the Phils with the ladies etc. Its because guys are looking to do things differently on each trip to create a different experience. I enjoy going around to the bars, but quite frankly, Im a little burnt and need a new twist.

Fourth, I think it is hard to find talent in Angeles City that is better then the Facebook girls above. You are telling me that when you place your bags in the hotel and hit the first bar you are going to instantly find women that are better then the women I have posted here? If you can do that, then please post up the bars where you found them. Forums like this were originally designed for us to learn where the best women are located in these cities...dont be shy.

The more likely scenario is that you go from bar to bar sifting through the various ladies until you find the ones you like. On every trip, without fail, I have visited every bar on Fields Ave. I usually drink one beer, eyeball the lineup and then take off which is the usual thing that most of you probably do. Sometimes I dont even go that far. I stick my head through the curtain at the door, scan real quickly, make a decision and move on because I dont want to be roped into any place unless the ladies I want are there. This process sometimes eats up and WASTES hours of vacation time. You tell me that I am wasting time looking on Facebook for the women, but the fact is that I am saving time. If I get to the Phils and have a constructive schedule where the women meet me along the way on certain parts of the trip, then that is saving time.

The game changer is clubs like Atlantis. It looks like they tried hard to put the best looking women in Angeles in one group. I would say the Atlantis women are the best looking ones in Angeles, but going there is a costly game which is the detractor. Since I was there last, they put up some other Atlantis-like clubs with 3000+ peso women. I think I could find Atlantis-like women in the other bars, but it would take some time and strategy. If you dont want to spend that time scanning the clubs, then you can just throw down your pesos at Atlantis.

Here is the Facebook strategy. I used the women I had barfined in the past to see the other women that they work with. You cant just search for Angeles City on Facebook...you need to know someone who has a profile. Already, a few of the women I have friended found out my strategy and blocked me. I was talking numbers and details with a few of the ladies on Facebook and they were up for it. Then the next day I get blocked...probably because they found out about me banging some of their co-workers. There is this unwritten Angeles rule where its somehow wrong to bang the co-workers...work ethic I guess;)

Facebook was designed as a networking took. Once you know one woman then you can see their network of friends. So you get one of your lady's profiles and then see who else works at their club. I think I have re-constructed the lineup at Club Atlantis off of that one 3000 peso woman I barfined a while back. This is the perfect South America tool where you can keep tabs on some of the better talent down there....dont be facebook mongering with your own personal FB page BTW...better make up one with a fake name.

If you have gone this far in reading my essay, then let me take a moment to school you all on how to Facebook and monger. Look at the following picture. These ladies are at one of Angeles City's bars. If you went to that bar, then you would be greeted by these ladies. On Facebook (not on here), you can scroll over the picture and you can see the women's names as they are tagged on Facebook...meaning that you can click on each individual face and it will take you to that lady's profile where you can send them a message.

Now lets say you went to this bar which I believe is the "Dirty Duck". I ask you the question, have you ever found women at the Dirty Duck of this like, kind and quality? I have been in the Duck many times and never saw women like these and thats probably because the ladies were swooped up quickly by the likes of Khunmor.

So you see...not a waste of time;) I would bang any of the ladies in this photo and do so quite proudly and without regret.

One more thing I noticed browsing through the Facebook profiles is that a lot of these women in the clubs claim they are either married or in relationships....have kids on Facebook. I dont think thats a shocker;)



Here are a few more pictures I dug up. The bikini show picture demonstrates the value of attending some of these swimsuit competitions in Angeles. This one was obviously not photoshoped and is a picture of a picture. I guess no scanner was available.

You cant tell me that there are women like this readily available in AC. If I was at this competition, #1, 2 and #3 I would have back up in the hotel room. I can assure you that they would not be available as I would be just a few feet away holding my pesos. The ole libido hasnt failed me yet.



Here are a few more samples from the Facebook mongering tour:






(Message edited by Portege on August 09, 2010)

"i consider advice from portege as useless. it used to be a waste of time also but i don't bother to read it now"

Haha. Obviously, you are reading and responding to it. Come on kid. I might be old, but that doesnt mean I havent used the internet just as long...if not longer then you. Your statement is a trollish trick. You come out hating the thread telling us how you wouldnt take advice from such and such saying how useless it is.

Hey buddy, obviously you like the pictures and the thread...obviously you are reading it. hehe;) I am willing to bet a grand that you will keep reading my threads, continue to view the pictures and contribute to the thread.

Another purpose of sites like this one is to find the least costly solution to mongering. You dont go to a website like Clubhombre to learn where the most costly hotels and ladies are. Remember, some of us here are not high powered doctors and attornies. Some of us actually live off of social security. Im not afraid to tell everyone that I am not the richest guy in the world and I dont care if you know that. I worked hard over the years and proud of what I achieved, but I am certainly no doctor, lawyer or stock trader. Some folks on this messageboard like to flaunt the fact that they have money by staying at the most expensive places available, but thats not what sites like this are truly for...

So with that said, I give you this low cost strategy for those who are interested.

When I was last in Angeles, it wasnt difficult to find a woman who was willing to do a repeat with me at a significantly lower cost. We would simply make arrangements, she came to the hotel directly and I gave her 1000 pesos without the bar being involved. She stayed as long as she could and then left. We kept it discrete as the bar might have fired her if they had found out. If I went through the usual route, then I would have paid like 1400 for the barfine then another 500 for the tip. Then there are all the drinks and food. So you might be saving 1500 pesos going that route.

So you can link up with women off of Facebook who would be willing to come visit you for a significantly reduced cost. You could rent from an off-Fields hotel which are usually cheaper and better quality then the on-Fields variety for cheap getting women off of Facebook for 1000 pesos...

For example, the PJ:
http://www.pjramadahotel.com/

You get a 1000 peso a night room at the PJ which used to be a Ramada. It has nice rooms and a good pool to hang out by. You can have 2-3 women a day, stay at a nice hotel and keep it under $100 American per day.

I could get these women to easily stop by the PJ for 1000 pesos...its way off fields and no one would ever see them come in...

I double posted this in another thread that I am involved which involves cost...

(Message edited by Portege on August 09, 2010)

Re the image in question - Abusing liquify tool (or not being able to noticed it's abuse), give's one zero credibility when it comes to photography. Stick to things you do know about.

Don has anyone told you before that you write like an asshole? Comments like "stick to things you do know about" are really assholish. If you like being an asshole on an anonymous message board then thats truly up to you. I bet in person you wouldnt say that to my face...IMHO I don't say anything on a message board that I would not say right to someone's face.

(Message edited by Portege on August 09, 2010)

I think Don has been around longer than you Portege.

Obviously, you don't like what these guys have to say.

To me it sounds like you are trying to swim up Niagra Falls.

Best to give up before you drown.

MM

I dont doubt Don has been around on this board a while...I dont doubt Don is a nice guy in person and thats what it appears from the many reports he has authored. I just question his postings on here vs. his conduct in real life. I dont believe he would be jabbing at me like this in real life like he is on the board which I feel is a tragic flaw. Hiding behind an alias and jabbing at someone is simply "not cool". In my personal opinion, thats a little yellow for a lack of a better word. It is also a weak debating tactic where you take the thread off-topic with personal attacks versus debating the merits.

In fact, I enjoy what many have to say here and have agreed with their statements. I dont doubt the South American women are in fact better looking. However, there are some tangible points of disagreement. I dont believe you can simply walk into any bar in Angeles and find better then the ones that I have posted here. I also dont believe the Blazers alias can go back to his trip report and find 10 girls that can "blow away" the women I have posted here. Blazers can upload the pictures he feels are better looking from his trip report if he feels like backing up his words and then we can debate the merits of his statement. Personal attacks are not really debating tactics, but trollish techniques used by those who cant come up with a good avenue of debate.

Sure I am swimming up Niagra Falls if the posters continue on with their personal attacks vs. providing a tangible argument and debate. I am not going to sit here all day competing with a bunch of trollish-like posters who have been hanging around Clubhombre for 10 or more years. This website is not my life and dont plan on making it a part.

So if I lose the debate based on trollish like personal attacks, then I really win the debate. The other posters had to resort to unfair tactics to win...basically cheating. However, if I lose through a good honest debate articulated by facts then I truly lose. Its up to the other posters to choose which path they would like to take. In my opinion, I think they will take the trollish route, but thats just my opinion. IMHO


(Message edited by Portege on August 09, 2010)

Portege, let me know where you live and next time I'm in the area, I would be happy to tell you what I think in person. I'm not trying to be an ass for being an ass sake, but stating what I think. If you question my reluctance to do so in person, i would be happy to shed you of that notion.

BTW, I stand by my comment if that wasn't clear.

-peace.

(Message edited by donmarco on August 09, 2010)

So, how many of these pics are of ladyboys?

To me, they look pretty much like the usual pics of the usual Filipinas.

Hey Don, I stand by my earlier comments of you being an asshole as well and would gladly face off with you. I have no issue with that and, for the record, you wouldnt be shedding me of any notion. Im not scared of some silly dude that wears pink argyle sweaters and practices his kung fu in that little white robe. Hu-yah! Chop! Thats what you dudes talk about all the time. Alright. Spare me. Go stay at your $100 a night Lewis Grand in the middle of a 3rd world sewer...tie that pink argyle around yourself at the pool with the Ray Bans sunning yourself and thinking how good you got it in AC...maybe even throw on that little white robe and do some moves for the ladies. Hu-yah! Enjoy kid.

and the ladyboy comment? sigh. I took some of the pictures from some of your Facebook pages so if they are lady boys, then the joke aint on me. Im not the one spinning around in that played out boat with these ladies. Yeah, you know what Im talking about. Forum rules prevent me from posting your facebook account where I got the photos in the first place.

Frankly, I wouldn't get out of my bed in AC to meet any of the girls you've posted let alone fly half way around the world to see them. Girls like these are a dime a dozen in AC and that's NOT factoring in the incredibly high no-show rate you would get from trolling on Facebook.

All in all, you have to be incredibly bored to do this. Having said that, I've been incredibly bored in the past. It's your time and effort so who am I to judge your tactics. Maybe you've discovered the greatest untapped source of poon in the history of AC and will soon be laughing your ass off at all of us. I seriously doubt it, but you never know.

EA

The point of this thread, El Apodo, is to arrange meetings for substantially less then what you are paying them at the bars. When you pull them from the bars, you pay at least 1400 pesos, but it doesnt stop there. To sit at the bar you have to buy drinks for yourself and them so thats another 500 pesos. Then you might take them to eat which piles on another 300 pesos. Then there is the tip of 500 pesos.

So you have a tab of 2700 pesos for one woman where as you can go on Facebook and arrange a few meetings for 1000 pesos total. See the point of arranging meetings prior to the trip? So its not a dime a dozen for the ladies, but instead its more like 32000 pesos for a dozen. However, with Facebook and other services you can get it down to to 12000 pesos for a dozen.

Its like that airline commercial. Don Marco pays $1200 for the seat on the airline while Portege manages his way on for $250. Same flight, gets you to the same place...

If the thread had stayed on topic then this valuable information would have been communicated sooner, but we got the usual trash by the usual suspects.

Lets wait for the trip report.

Should be interesting.

MM

"When you pull them from the bars, you pay at least 1400 pesos, but it doesnt stop there. To sit at the bar you have to buy drinks for yourself and them so thats another 500 pesos. Then you might take them to eat which piles on another 300 pesos. Then there is the tip of 500 pesos."

You're kidding, right? First off, there are plenty of bars with EWRs under 1400. Last trip I never paid more than 1300, and two of my favorites came from Candy Bar (1050). Usually my bar tab was in the 200-250. I find a target, buy her a drink, get a beer or a coke, and if she passes the interview, off we go. Eat? Not likely. I am not looking for dinner conversation or a date with AC bar girls. And a 500p tip is a very rare thing. Most get 200 if they've done well. Exceptional service rates 300p. I'de estimate that I spend 1800p on average per girl. You may find some FB girls to go for a little less, but you can't test them out in the bar setting in advance. If you arrange to meet a FB girl, you are probably on the hook. It's a situation that's tougher to walk away from.

It's your money...so more power to you, but I have never met an AC regular who uses your strategy.

Portege, first you attempt a photography history lesson when you can't figure out white balance.

Then say I'm hiding behind a screen... then say I'm not..

Then say talk about a "face off" *chuckle- remember viagra doesn't inflate muscles*, but don't see a PM with where your at. For the record, I said I would gladly say what I think to your face... I don't consider that a face off or insult, but you somehow do in your virtual reality.

I don't wear raybans, but Maui Jim's

I don't wear argyle sweaters, but am on the board of Brooks Brothers.

I don't know kung fu, but have learned a little Uechi ryu and muay thai for fun in my day.

You took ladyboy pics from my facebook page? That would be news to me... I have a 2 day old facebook account with a couple friends from the board listed.

Asshole, perhaps.

Anything else you want to guess at and be wrong?

With the time you spend on your diatribe, you could get a job flipping burgers and be have a few more pennies to your name. As I said before, at least you could stick to something you actually know (you can flip a burger right?)

Hey girls, can't we all try to get along?

Don, I came to the conclusion that you were an asshole. There were some here who had some doubts, then you went ahead and opened your mouth again...well you know how the cliche goes.

Bwanadik, The perimeter bars have those uber cheap barfines which might be one of my destinations on next trip. Barfining from there would put the trip into a whole different price stream. I can find decent hotels around the perimeter going for $15 a night and then pick from the perimeter bars with 700 barfines. I think thats a little known venture.

When I am on Fields Avenue, I oftentimes approach random women walking around or in different places and just come out asking them where they work. Its common that I can get them back to the room for 1000 pesos. I never tried getting them back for say 500 pesos, but I think it could be done and probably more so around the perimeter. I felt a little guilty going anything less then 1000 pesos... I will only take the women who can demonstrate they work at one of the area bars because I want them tested and have some credentials. Usually just sitting at the Margarita Station you can eventually pick one off the street as they come out of the bars especially in the morning/afternoon when they are trolling around town doing chores. I do it on every trip where I get ladies from other places besides bars and make a deal.

Some guys are real good at not spending anything else besides the barfine, but I find myself grabbing a beer, eating something and spending on something random. The mamason is always coming up pushing. I find making these private arrangements is a lot less stressful. You just talk it out with them and have a good time without getting pushed to buy something.

Some guys are a little shy about approaching women in the malls or on the street outside of the bar. I just flash a smile...if they smile back then I get closer and strike up a conversation. Eventually I ask where they work and then that is when I found out if they are pro or not. If they are not pro, then I conclude quickly. I just want to take the pro ladies. 9 times out of 10 if a woman is walking in front of the station smiling at the guys then she probably works in one of the bars.

You cant make the deal in front of the station in front of the bar owners so you toss your number at them or you give them a signal to meet you over at the internet cafe. Usually that works best for me.

(Message edited by Portege on August 09, 2010)

Not really sure what we are arguing about here. If Portege wants to hook up with facebook friends I say let him go for it. I have no problem with him enjoying his trip in any manner he wishes.

As for the photo purporting to show girls I quickly snap up from Dirty Duck let me say first I did not take the photo. I do know every girl in the photo though and none of them work at Dirty Duck. One IS the wife of the manager Martin and has two kids however. I am biblically acquainted with only 4 of the 9 girls- no not Martin's wife. 3,5,8,and 9 from left are very CLOSE friends.
The group is called the Lipstick Lesbians and barhop together paying for their own drinks regularly.Several are married with kids most have boyfriends.

Portege, I still have not received a PM with where your at ... Let's see which mouth (or keyboard) is writing checks they can't cash shall we?

KM, the issue is not him enjoying whatever budget/style he wishes. I commented on the FB images were not all that special when compared to local talent and pointed to one as being a 1st grade attempt at Photoshop. None of which was or should be considered a flame. My problem is his responses that follow.

As a college-educated adult, I am perfectly aware of what you are trying to accomplish. I just don't think it will work. (For now, I'll set aside your somewhat dubious taste in "Facebook friends.") As I said earlier, it's your time, do with it as you please.

I'm with MM, let's wait for the report.

EA

When did I get a Facebook account? Secondly, if I did have one, why would I have pics of Filipinas since 1) I don't go to the PI and 2) find Filipinas to be, as a nationality, some of the ugliest women in all of Asia/Oceana?

i see portege has added more useless info since my last post.

Don Marco might be a nice guy in real life and is probably a good salesman, but his words are very telling as to his true character of bigotry. Here is a fine example of Don Marco's bigoted thinking:

"With the time you spend on your diatribe, you could get a job flipping burgers and be have a few more pennies to your name. As I said before, at least you could stick to something you actually know (you can flip a burger right?)"

Don believes certain groups in society, like those who "flip burgers", are lesser then himself. I do not know, but suspect that his bigotry is not only confined to the fast food crowd. Its one thing to debase someone with generic words of profanity, but using a certain group of people to debase someone is totally and completely wrong. If you are around Don, be careful...he might come to a pre-judgement of your character because of the hotel you are staying at...because of the woman you choose...or whatever other characteristic he chooses.

I dont have to point out how Don is an asshat...he does well on his own accord making that point for himself.

Don is a nice guy, charasmatic, but comes to judgements too quickly of people based on their characteristics. I would like to know Don's take on Jewish, Black and Asian people too. We might get a mouthful from Don on that particular topic I suspect...

I know you guys want to defend Don, but read what he wrote. He chooses a group of people in society and then puts them down. I dont think its right to put down any group in society be they unemployed, pick up garbage or whatever they do for a living. I dont make judgements about people based on what they do, what group they belong too, etc.

(Message edited by Portege on August 10, 2010)

Port...I dont need to upload photos, just look them up in my trip reports. I believe your photos are standard grade Filipinas with a couple that were shot semi-professionally. I dont go for old chicks and several of those girls are what I would consider old with makeup. Remember, I have been to AC 20+ times so I have a thick library of pussy.

Portege:

Why don't you get some thick skin, do your own thing, and just forget what these guys say?

The more you say, the bigger hole you dig, and give Don more credibility.

If you like what you are doing, just keep doing it, but calling people assholes is not winning you any friends.

Why can't we all just get along?


MM

Portege, for one speaking of character- did you take the images you posted? If not, you are in violation of the CH code of conduct here and possible infringement of owners right in terms of resuse without permission. Or I suppose lifting facebook images and posting them on a P4P adult site, doesn't surface on your radar.

Continue to overwhelm me with your insight...

What do YOU have against burger flippers? It was a suggestion to put your free time to the best use. Spelled out, I meant it literally and as positive feedback.

I'm done with the thread, so enjoy. Like I said at the onset, anytime you think you have the balls to talk face to face, I'm more than happy to do so.

damn i feel dumber after just reading this whole thing.......portage, did you happen to work for the post office or some other government agency....because i just cant get you..... oh and the whole money thing.......mongering is an expensive sport ... if its too much , take up bowling... i heard that cheap.

look forward to your report.......

Hehe. I never represented that I took the pictures myself. Furthermore, my use of the pictures qualifies as "fair use". I am using the pictures to obtain commentary and criticism as well as to review the services they might render.

As for mongering being an expensive sport...its only expensive if you want it to be. Usually mongers who go on 1-2 week trips spend more then mongers who go on 5-10+ week trips. Actually, I dont consider someone who goes on an expensive short-trip to be a true monger, but a tourist. Tourists are those who dont care how much they spend and most always go for the most expensive situation...i.e. taking a private car from the airport vs. the uber cheap bus. I could justify spending a little money in a place like Rome or Paris...maybe even in Pattaya, but there is certainly no justification for spending money in Angeles. Thats like going to TJ and insisting on staying in the most expensive hotel...a little ridiculous. I know you came halfway around the world and you want to stay in something nice...yeah, something nice in a place where people are living on the streets.

The mongers who go on lengthy trips that I meet tend to know the area, know what they want and seek out the cheapest digs. Websites like this one were not put up to find the most expensive places to stay, but the cheapest ones. Over the years, tourists like Don Marco invaded the internet and now insist on us staying at his Lewis Grand at $100 per night. Im saying you dont have to do that. There are other ways to do things.

There are places like the Ponderosa that are off-Fields, have a shuttle to Fields, a pool and offer adequate air conditioned rooms for under $20 a night.

http://www.ponderosa-angeles.com/room_rates.html

I struck out in Pattaya going to the cheap hotel on my first trip, but that was because I did not know the area. Now that I know the area it would be easy for me to do things better and cheaper the next time. I made a 30 day trip there for under 5 grand including airfare and could probably do it 20% cheaper on the next trip while still banging 1-2 ladies a day.

After enough trips to Angeles, you dont have to use the bars but feed off of your connections. Nearly every woman I have ever barfined still sends me a message on messenger. Even without facebook, I can send out a few emails meet up with the old flings, and have a good time at a much cheaper price then what anyone pays here. Notice how no one states how much they paid for the women in the reports meaning they usually paid top dollar.

As for me working for the post office or any of that, this is not a very serious site, but its filled with long time trolls who like to make it seem that way. I hardly spend any time on this site, but I know the Don Marco alias spends his entire day on several other sites as well as this one. I dont even think Don Marco knows he is a troll...but he is. There are times when I dont even access the internet for several days at a time let alone this site or others.

I sit here laughing posting up the ladies from Facebook as I send them a few messages. The facebook ladies laugh back and send me equally entertaining messages. Sure I will meet up with them when I am hanging out at the Station while I do my daily morning armlifts with a San Miguel treating it like a game. I will say the most I can pay is 1000 pesos... If the ladies are not what I figured or dont want to accept my 1000, then I toss them back out on Fields. Not an issue.

You guys would be in a better mood if you treated the mongering scene like me. Dont go for 2 weeks at a time, but go for at least 30 days at a time. Treat it like a game, minimize expense and take nothing seriously. As it is, the Don Marco trolls make it seem like more then it is and steer you into situations were you are guaranteed to spend the most money. However, Clubhombre was started to seek out the best bang for the buck in Mexico, but not the most expensive bang in Mexico...I am going to stick with the original theme of the website mind you while Don can keep visiting the hotels made of Gold.

I have spent at least 2 months out of each year for the last 15 years abroad mongering and bang at least 1-2 women a night. The most expensive trip to date was the Pattaya trip. I have had fun on every trip.

When you get past 60 years old, if you are lucky to live that long, then what will matter most is the expense. As long as the women are somewhat attractive and in their 20s, then they are good enough.

I have no doubt the Don Marco trolls of the internet will be living a high life when they get past 60 years old. The magic of the internet lets them live any life they choose to lead and I am happy for them in that regard. I, however, dont live on the internet, but in reality.

(Message edited by Portege on August 12, 2010)

You are digging a deeper hole for yourself.

MM

Portege:

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RT, don't you want to sleep on a potato sack under a mesquito net with a broken lock on the door and lukewarm water, at best, for a shower? You can save some big bucks that way.

Well, if the mosquito net has a wireless internet signal, I *might* consider it.

Gotta say, I've really missed me some club hombre banter..

I thougth Portege was booted?Maybe im thinkin of somebody else?

666, I don't think so, you're probably just confusing him with Roblaw or therightway or any of the other idiots who have brightened our lives in past with their multi-moronical musings.

anyone found information from portege helpful ?

i remember he posted some info about the bus to pattaya from bkk airport. but of course that info was already posted by others who had actually taken the bus. portege eventually took the bus but posted info about it first.

then there was the 30 day blog from his pattaya trip that was more comedy than reality. i remember "no one speaks english here" and something about "luxury" in pattaya (luxury ?). i had to keep reading it and commenting just to make sure the newbies around here didn't get the wrong idea - eg, english is widely spoken and there is no luxury.

now it appears we are getting a lesson on how to arrange ladies in advance of arrival in AC. why would anyone do that ? the chances of "success" through that method is far lower than just going and looking for your ladies. if it was a successful program, we'd all be doing it.

maybe i'm a little paranoid but that is a good way to get ripped off or worse, end up dead - alerting hookers you've never met about your pending arrival so they can get ready to take you down.

Memo to Portege:

Given your extreme aversion to anyone who has a pot to piss in, you need to launch your own website. It appears that economonger.com is available.

Hey Buick,

I thought you stopped reading my stuff? I guess you were lieing or trolling. Hey I dont really care. I just call it like I see it.

Actually, Pattaya is one of the more luxiorious places that I have found to monger without breaking the bank. Sure, there are places like Dubai and so many places in Europe, but you will definately break the bank there. There are plenty of nice hotels in Pattaya (with a good helping of bad hotels as I experienced too).

I found Pattaya to be more like a real vacation then mongering. Traveling to the zoo, experiencing the beach everyday, going to the rock island, etc. Sure there was some poverty and 3rd world to contend with, but it was not on the massive scale of the Phils. I would definately consider living there and felt that starting a business was possible...but let me get at least 1 more trip there under my belt;)

I read your report on Angeles City and I am sorry that you payed 3000 pesos to that Santos Street woman. If you had read my last report on Angeles, then you would have known how things work and the barfines there. So next time, dont just troll, but read and learn. I read the reports on here and other sites before I go so I can gleem some knowledge.

Come on Buick. You have been to Angeles City once and in your report you said that you would never return there. I would hardly call you an expert on that destination. In many of the trip reports, many of the mongers do arrange ladies in advance of their stay. I think we all here have many ladies on our Yahoo messengers and cellphones that we call back for a reduced rate then the typical barfine. This aspect of mongering in Angeles is greatly under-reported because there is a general belief the bar owners will fire the ladies for doing the so called "sneak out". In my last trip report, some of the ladies were "sneak outs", but I didnt indicate that fact out of respect for the ladies. I dont want to see any of them get fired.

As for me digging a deeper hole Mr. Major, what are these guys going to do? Get up from their workplace cubicles to find me? Maybe they might give my pictures an especially low score? Maybe Don Marco might come back with some less then flattering remarks and start degrading Jewish people as well as those who "flip burgers"?

I have never stayed at a hotel with mosquito netting. The worst hotel I stayed at in my life was the first one in Pattaya, but the Secrets Hotel made up for it and it wasnt a shabby place. Not the Ritz, but doable.

All you guys like to talk smack and I thought your managers had implemented that new Sonic Wall to prevent you from getting on here. I guess I was wrong.

I will continue on with my value-added trip reports staying at the fleabag hotels like the Swiss Chalet that many of you had raved about in years past, but now that the Lewis Grand has been built its now a place where you require a mosquito net. I dont just save a couple hundred bucks, but a couple thousand bucks. Im sorry guys, you dont need to spend between 5-10 grand for a two week stay in Angeles. There are ways of bringing it in at a much cheaper cost. I know you are upset with me for telling you that you had spent way too much on your trip, but thats a fact.

All I can say is to the Buick alias is that you better get a few more trips to Angeles under your belt to talk with authority on the place. If you had messaged me before your trip, I would have told you that you dont have to pay 3000 pesos for those women lurking around Santos Street. Also, next time post a few pictures too of the ladies you banged. I posted up my pictures of the ladies I banged and received both positive and negative feedback taking the punches.

I think it was Don Marco who commented in my Angeles City trip report that I had the best pictures ever posted of Angeles women. I didnt use an SLR on that trip, but a point&shoot BTW. Thanks Don for your positive comments on my choice of ladies last trip and please dont let the boss catch you at your cube while your looking at those photos. I dont want to see you lose your job.

Why are you spending all this time on Facebook.

If you just go to the Thai consulate in LA, they will give you a "Free Facebook Sex Guide to both Bancock, and Pattaya.

I think you can also get a "AC Facebook Sex Guide" for AC at the Philippine consulate this also. Just in case you are interested, Don Marco is the author of this guide. You might pay more attention to save time on your FB searches. It comes out on the first Thurs of each month.

Glad you are having so much fun getting beat up.

Good luck on further FB searches.

MM

I know six of those women in your pics, and I know for a fact I took two of those pics. It's great to know that I made a small impact here--heh heh!

I know one lady in the pictures very very well - and can assure everyone she is high maintenance and expensive. Her mom is often self invited on dates too. I also paid for the clothes being worn in the pictures. It is an odd feeling...

I know this is going to piss people off.

DATES? You are paying a prostitute for sex. How does that somehow morph into a date.

If her Mother came along I'd do them both I'm relieved to know I'm not the only guy that takes girls shopping.

but she told me she loved me.

Metal,

I'm sure what she said was,"I love these clothes", and you heard different. Sounds like you need some retail therapy.

- CFK

(Message edited by copperfieldkid on August 15, 2010)

I'll admit that I have a habit of hanging on to a good BF for 2-3 nights. Usually after the 3rd night they feel entitled to ask you for stuff or ask/demand to bring friends or family along on bar hopping runs. The worst part is when they ask for a load to their phone so they can return the texts of all the other guys they have bar fined that week. That's when I kick them to the curb. It's my vacation and my fun. When it ceases to be fun I kick them to the curb.

Yes, I too am guilty of buying them stuff but it is usually my idea and not theirs. I will buy them a bikini or sexy dress in the little outdoor shops on Real Street. This is usually selfish indulgence on my part or out of necessity. Some of these girls you BF come out of the back dressed looking like crap (cut-off shorts, t-shirt and flip flops) a far cry from what they looked like in that sexy bikini or negligee they were wearing on the stage.

I dont take anything personally that is said on this board or others. I know of the secret formula that I have tried to explain on several occasions. I got tired of explaining it so I drew it on a chalkboard.



In regards to the women, they do look a little bit different when they get all dressed up in the 3rd world gear of t-shirt. Its funny...kind of like porn where they show the ladies arriving for the shoot looking like average woman and then get dolled up.

Can you guys use less abbreviations. It is impossible to understand what you are talking about

Go to Topics - Welcome to Club Hombre - ClubHombre.com Dictionary

Now STFU you SOB.

J/K

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An easier way to get to the various abbreviations:

On the left side of this page, 3rd from the bottom is Dictionary; select this, then use drop down and select the 2nd selection [abbreviations/acronyms], select Go and you will see an entire listing.