I selected a little cutie named Mai one night. She had this hot librarian look, which sometimes gets me going. Anyway, we took our obligatory shower before getting on the job, and she tells me that she might receive a couple of phone calls that she would need to take. We had all night together, and so I didn’t care. She tells me that she’s got an Irishman and a Swede on the hook, who send her money on a regular basis. The Irishman called first. She told him that she was with a friend and smiled at me. I was already massaging her tits when the call came in, and I was in no mood to stop so I didn’t. She was giving him answers that you might read in Private Dancer…..I couldn’t believe it. It got so corny that I started feeding her lines, which she delivered to her Irish “boyfriend”. At this point, I started to caress her thighs and stroke her papaya. She opened up her legs, and not wanting to decline her invitation to insert my fingers inside her, I did so. All this happened while she was talking with this sucker. The Swede called in the middle of the conversation with the Irishman, and Mai told him that she’d call him back in a few minutes. After she finished her first phone call, she said, “why are people so stupid?” I couldn’t help but agree with her. She calls back the Swede, and starts speaking Swedish! Mai told me that she learned Swedish when she went to visit Sucker #2 for a few months. After this call, she expressed her clear impatience for farang stupidity. Not more than a few minutes after the second phone call was finished, I strapped on a jolly and got down to business. The next day, I took Mai again, because she was so good in the sack. The next day, she whips out a bank (sent via Western Union) receipt, which shows that the Irishman had wired her approximately $200.00. She asked me if I could tell her what some of the words meant on the receipt. Bottom line guys…..don’t be a sucker! If you let yourself fall into this trap, you probably deserve it, especially after reading all the warnings posted on this website. Have fun, treat the girls well, pay them fairly (but don’t overpay), but take care not to fall for a hooker!

Hey guys

I just watched a great movie from Thailand called Garuda. It’s a monster flick. But like the original Godzilla, it’s a symbolic look at the culture that made it. I highly recommend it.

One theme in this movie that keeps coming through is the Thai people’s real hatred of “farangs” (sp?), their very derogatory term for foreigner. The leading lady is a half Caucasian hottie(whew!). Some of the people in the movie seem to hate her the most.

Have guys run into this? How often do your hear the word “farang”?

There's no doubt in my mind that behind the famous "Thai smile" resides no small measure of disdain for foreign male sex tourists--but they LOVE the money they bring...

Farang is not necessarily a derogatory term. However, there is definitely a cultural racism in Thailand. There are the pricing differences, and you will find places that do not allow non-Asians to even enter. Some of the people I worked with had never really known any Americans. While there wasn’t any blatant animosity, it was quite obvious that they just had just grown up with a generally negative opinion of Americans. There were more then a few times that I was told that I was different than they thought Americans were. There was also at times a noticeable difference in how I was treated when I was with my clients to the times I was not. I would go most days without seeing another non-Asian until I headed to Nana after work, so I think that I may have seen a bit different side of BKK.

When it comes to sex tourist, of course there is a generally negative opinion. What would you expect?

KKM said Farang is not necessarily a derogatory term

Yea, and neither is gringo or, **ahem**, ni**er.

Bottom line, it is. Some may apologize for it, or adopt it for the own use, but, be sure that it aint a term of affection.


(Message edited by smitopher on September 17, 2005)

So if the Thais cannot say "farang" what word are they supposed to use? Would you prefer something else like "tang daow" the Thai word for alien! Multitudes of foreigners visit LOS from many different countries, and in a busy world it's not always practical to try to find out where every individual comes from! BTW I'm usually greeted with the term "Sir" in most establishments that don't use my first name. I'm quite happy with that, before you criticise the locals too much try getting to know them first. How many Thais do you know by first name? Do you know what province they are from?

Words like "farang", "gringo" or "gweilo" are often used to describe North American or European people. These words were meant to distinguish between the "good and proper" locals and the "suspect, if not downright repugnant white foreigners"

While someone who refers to you in such a manner MAY hold no ill will towards you in particular, it reflects that cultural prejudice.

Locals (of whatever local ethnicity) may even insist that they mean no disrespect but that belies the origins of the term.

Some may even adopt the term because they wish to wrest away the definition from those who would use it to marginalize them. The most extreme example might be African Americans usage of the term “niggar”.

So, my point was that however innocuous a particular usage of one of those terms may seem, it is rooted in a deep cultural antipathy to whatever particular outsider that it is directed.

BTW, Americans are as guilty of this as anyone.

Dave, why do you assume that I am criticizing Thais?


(Message edited by smitopher on September 18, 2005)

Dave, I think that Smitopher is simply offerering a cultural reflection, not a judgement on the Thai people.

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(Message edited by donmarco on September 19, 2005)

My take is that you gents spent way to much time hashing over "noise" and it just detracts from the amount of time in the pursuit of sanuk. Very anti thai ;)

Accept what is and move on your pursuits.