Just into my second week here...Prices are getting ridiculous...Bar fines start at 1300.--, Drinks for the girls at 150.-- (beware Dollhouse, up to 250.--)
Worst of all - Koreans, Japs (Yes, and Americans...) tiping girls anywhere from 1000.-- to 5000.-- a night...Talked to a bunch of girls...below a 1000.-- tip (the girls receive their share from barfine und drinks)is considered "Cheap Charly" and the word spread between friends... This place is going downhill...Wake up fellows...200-300,-- for good performance ( you will hardly ever find...) is plenty...One fact a friend pointed out to me...the many foreigners with "victim" written all over their forehead... You are paying these girls more then their fathers are making a month! I am interested in getting some feedback from guys out there... I have been coming here for 15 years and been living in Thailand and Brasil for the last 20 years. So please don't tell me I am not informed about the scene! Let's get people informed...

Talked to a bunch of girls

Sorry, dude, I don't care if you've been coming to ANY destination for 15+ years, if you're taking the word of a PROSTITUTE about compensation trends, then you're pretty clueless. I would say there are indeed a small % of stuck up girls in AC that fancy themselves above the curve and try to hold out for Asian and big-tipping customers, but the reality is that 95% of them are lucky to get 2 barfines a week and beggars can't be choosers.

Re: your preaching to us about what we tip barfines, it's really none of your business. If you feel strongly about the subject, why not go up to a bunch of Korean guys and discuss it with them?

Oh, and the p250 drinks at Dollhouse are double drinks and they only pull that scam on you if you don't take caution before ordering. I guess you were 'uninformed' about that.

Erre, best to step off the soap box lest you slip off. But gawd all mighty, japs and @#$#@ Koreans, you'd think AC was part of Asia or something!

I respectfully disagree w/Porker b/c EVERYTHING the AC bargirls have told me for the past 4 years has been 100% the truth and nothing but the truth, I can literally bank on it.

BTW, if you're worried about greedy girls in Angeles, why not try and turn it around on them? Tell them that you're shopping for a new girlfriend because the last one (say she was from Manila when they ask where she worked) was complaining that her 50K monthly allowance wasn't enough! If she buys that she will deliver plenty of 'goodwill' to get put on the Western Union gravy train!

I only tip over 200 or 300 if I really, really like the girl and never have a problem getting repeats or major GFE.

Dont blame the Asian mongers for driving the prices up..its the Americans who are coming home and sending allowances and dumping mone on nude chat sites that are the problem. At least the Korean and Japanses guys leave a big tip and then that's it. Pretty rare to hear of AC bargirls being sponsored by Asian men although it does exist. It's the lonely Americans and Euros making decisions with their pants around their ankles on a computer that are the problem. Shit, half of the guys sending money have never even been to the Phils.

Hi Blazer & Friends
Fully agree with you! The Americans are "toooooo generous". Any destination they go to, i am talking regular places, get pricey...Can't make any judgment if this is good or bad....or Poker will get high blood pressure...I am not looking for arguments with people I don't even know, I was interested in opinions, good we all have one..., keep them coming...
It is just totally amazing how many men fall for the support and build house scheme...I am not informed how bad it is in the Philippines, but in Thailand (Isaan) there is hardly a little village left, without a mansion built buy some poor sex starved "victim" from Europe and almost every girl that spends a night with me has a couple of sponsors...We always have a good laugh, when one of them calls during a session to check on his love...Lets enjoy as long as it lasts...

The culprit is the internet. Before the internet, you just had to be in the know, either from being in the military, or stumbling across it on a business trip, or having a cool friend that let you in on it. Now that the information is so available, it was inevitable that demand was going to rise, and Econ 101 teaches what happens after that. It's one of the reasons why I don't post anything about my favorite places. I don't want anymore hard-ons there. It's time to lock it up.

that would be true. In 1996 i had a barfine of P700 over night and then some. Some idiot back that then wanted 1500 and i said no way. of course the conversion back then was 26 - 1 which made it technically more expensive than it is now but yeah it is starting to get ridiculous. I tend to go for the girls that are cute but not drop dead gorgeous. Anyways i didn't have any complaints in the tip department when i was there.

Then again I'm a fil-am so i do hear different things than most people and they do treat me differently when they find out i'm filippino.

Believe me don't buy into their bullshit about the 5000 tips all the time. They get that maybe once a month and they are grateful for it but know that doesn't come too often. They are not stupid either if you are firm with them they will take what ever you give them in terms of tip grudgingly and maybe you will not get a repeat but who cares. Or you can give the BS lines stated in previous post about the western union gravy train it could work the 1st time but if you have a face they will not forget it will only work once and never again. I have that curse. For some reason people remember me even if it has been a few months or almost a year. So that BS will not serve me well.

Erre191,

If AC has such poorly performing ladies, then my I ask where you go? Really, I want to know!


Porker, glad to read what you wrote!

I am saving up dinero for my next PI trip! Can't wait to ring the bell a couple of times at The Dollhouse. (Just kidding).

Blazers,
Although you and I have agreed to disagree in the past, your post here was just so totally right-on.

I couldn't have put it better myself. I have personally met American mongers in bars while I was in Jakarta, Indonesia, who have told me they thought they found the Asian girl of their dreams if they kept sending cash after meeting them via Western Union.

They returned there (so the story goes) to seek out a possible non-working girl whom they think will not ask for cash, but will accept their hand in proposed marriage.

I also know two guys from this site (I won't mention names) who send money somewhere in SEA to these Asian hotties while "pleasuring themselves" in front of their computer monitors with their pants around their ankles and the promise of keeping the cash flowing if the chic promises to keep disrobing on a continuous basis.

One of my friends who does this, has been to the Philippines, the other one hasn't, yet they both send money with the promise of continued Internet sex.

Go figure.....

Master Bates.

Looking forward to your Indonesia report..lol