the card i got from this place gives an address of 23-25 hai ba trung. it is on the corner of hai ba trung and mac thi buoi. if you walk by, you won't miss it as the ladies will beckon you in the door for sure. a man stands outside the door and bangs on it every time a potential customer walks by. so the girls run to the door every now and then to lure the customers in.

mamasan's name is kim and speaks perfect english. music was good and not too loud. i don't remember another customer coming in but my friend and i were in there btwn 3 and 8pm on a thurs.

we each took two girls for $120 ($60/girl). the girls got in the taxi first, while we waited inside. then we followed and got in the same taxi. we each paid $20 for a room at the short time hotel. my friend was asked to pay his $120 right when he got into the room. my girls didn't ask and i paid them after the session. my friend had the best one, a damn nice one i might add. however, after the initial go around she wanted to leave. he didn't like that much but deserved it for paying first.

probably a staff of 10 in this place. not alot. i went back in solo a few days later and there was another young hot one in there. maybe too young. didn't take out that time as i had an early flight out the next day.

this place still has good talent. i took one from here, 22 yrs old from mekong delta area. decent english and really great in bed. name is thuy.

i've been in this place alot during my visits to sgn. although i haven't taken many girls from here, i'd gone with cali girls instead. so a regular customer if you will but maybe not a big money customer.

i was little pissed off with the "service/charges" in here given my past patronage. they wanted 1,400,000 paid to the bar before i could take the girl. in the past i paid the bar and the girl separately. that is better as you can try and get the girl to accept less than 1,100,000 (bar will usually get 300,000).

in addition, i remember getting a bit of a credit on the 300,000 take out fee if i bought a few lady drinks (maybe the 300,000 gets to 150,000). no dice this time.

perhaps the worst, as far as principle goes, was the 30,000 ($2) charge for peanuts or the 15,000 charge for doublemint gum. neither of which i touched.

so bring the nuts/gum back to the bar if it ends up on your table and you don't want them. be careful on the 50,000 lady drinks, no credit to take out fee.

i was planning to really tee off on kim, the mamasan, when i returned the next day but the performance of thuy pretty much erased my bad memories.

this place was closed on my last visit but it is now open again. slight remodel on the inside. used to have black interior. now it is white. but they keep the lights dim so not too bright. i stopped in to see my friend, mama kim, but it was her day off.

the talent inside was horrible. the system they use here is the ladies go in order. one comes over to your table, you tell her to leave, then another one comes over, you tell her to leave, and so on and so on. wasn't like that before. did experience that system at smiley bar a few yrs ago. so you'll need to be real proactive and grab a cute one quick or you'll get to reject the uglies as they parade through......

they have improved the rooms upstairs such that short time on premises is fully available.