If anyone could help me out with a few questions I'd sure appreciate it. I'm not a newbie and have been to Brazil/Rio, Costa Rica/San Jose, Thailand/Bangkok, Phuket, and Pattaya among others. But this will be my first time to AC. I've ready everything I could on this site, ISG, and others but could use a little help from the guys that have been on the ground there. I have a high heel fetish and will want the BG's to wear heels for me. Can classic high heel pumps like the 4-5" heels be purchased in AC maybe at the mall? Have you seen the girls wearing these? If they wear them in the clubs I'm assuming they have to buy them somewhere locally. I'm also thinking about staying at the Wild Orchid and wondered what others think? I like that it is close to the action and has a pool for hanging out at during the day. ABC looks much nicer but I've read the pool is cold all the time at ABC and Pacific Breeze. I was also hoping to find a wingman and it looks like a lot of the guys may stay at the Wild Orchid. Anybody with pro and con thoughts on these two hotels? Thanks in advance for anything you can share. See you in oz.

Wild Orchid is a excellent choice.

Some bars have big high heels, blue nile comes to mind, well high heel boots, but they wear them only in the bars and will change once BF.

Don't recall seeing many girls wearing the bigger high heels outside the bars but really haven't paid close attention.

Never went high heel shopping, but can't imagine you'll have a problem finding some.

Wild Orchid Resort is a very nice place to stay, assuming the price is right for you. Just don't confuse it with the Orchid Inn, which is much older and more basic (although it too has a nice pool area).

You'll find a LOT of the girls in Angeles wear flat shoes, or shoes with low heels, probably because they're more comfortable when you're on them 10 hours a day. But I'm sure you can find some with high heels. And if the girls hear "shoe shopping", your biggest challenge is going to be keeping her 20 friends from coming along.

Thanks for the replies Fooledagain1 and PHoenixguy. The price at the Wild Orchid seemed kinda high to me but it does come up frequently with favorably comments. Any chance AC has someplace anything like Eden club in BKK or Hell Club in Pattaya...you know the whatever you want, yellow line, gotta take at least two, etc? Thanks again

No Eden/HC-type places in AC. But you can always grab a couple of girls at one of the Perimeter sleaze places, take 'em back to your place, and do whatever you want.

BTW, I didn't find the pool to be cold at the Pacific Breeze. I loved the PB. Get a poolside jacuzzi room and have a party.

Pacific Breeze is excellent choice as well.

Also if you want lower priced hotel that's very clean and fairly big rooms and comes highly recommended is Central Park Hotel, sister hotel to PB. $32 A night, excellent location, just around the corner to PB, you get free usage of PB Pool for you and your new friends.

Hmmm, I don't get all the love for the Pacific Breeze. The pool is small, the food is poor and over-priced, internet very spotty, the rooms not so great for the price, and the location a little shady. However, the staff is extremely nice and well trained. Personally I felt the Lewis Grand was much much better for the same price.

>I like that it is close to the action

I agree that the Lewis Grand seems like the nicest hotel going for a good price - but it's not on the list for someone looking to be "close to the action" (which I interpret to mean walking distance from the main strip of bars on Fields).

The Lewis Grand looks like a promising venue. I prefer the PB's location. I have never had even the slightest inkling of a problem there, but have been hassled enormously walking along the street in the vicinity of the LG. The LG seems to have a lot of pluses. A question that remains to be answered is what the prices will look like once the "grand opening" period is over. The management has only said that the current prices are temporary. It may or may not end up being a good deal.

Bawanadik...so there are BG's in AC who will perform like the girls at Eden in BKK? I'm kinda big and I constantly hear utoooobeeg. Believe me I wish I wasn't I love hittin it in the back door but Eden is the only place I've had any luck. Even got the same stuff in Rio even at the Termas. Anway, thank for your help. I'll try the perimeter bars. I've gotten so I don't like asking...I guess that's why I like Eden so much...yellow line yah man! I'll be back in BKK and Pattaya in November but thought I'd do the cherry trip to AC and check it out.

Figures,

Sorry to respond instead of BD. One thing Ihave found in AC is that despite the girls being small in stature most of them don't have particularly tight pussies. You really need to search for the tight yet togive birht box.

There are many girls in AC who are quite willing to go backdoor. I can't say if they generally have a better ability to relax their spincters than their Eden sisters. But I think a utoooobeeg (haha I love that) guy should be pretty happy with how accomodating the AC girls are. Just do me favor my utoooobeeg brother, please leave china and other places to use guys with the little engines that could (actually get some traction in that thing!)

Photo: Three AC Birds 01

Photo: Three AC Birds 02

Just testing how to post some pics... cheers...

Figures,
Agree 100% with MongerX. Never get the "u too big" line in AC. It's true that I'm not "too big," but I do get that line pretty often in Pattaya. The AC girls are quite accommodating, and at least 1/2 were willing to go backdoor.

Figures, have you tried Tulip in Bangkok? Whereas at Eden you have to choose a girl from the left side of the yellow line if you want anal, pretty much all the girls do it at Tulip. OTOH, they are not required to do anal (although according to one of the girls I recently was with all the current lineup will do it at least some, if not most, of the time) so I suppose if a guy were "too big" it would not be a sure thing.

Mongerx and Bwana Dik,
Where are these many or 1/2 of the women in AC that are willing to do backdoor?

In my last 4 trips there, I have only found one that would do it (and she liked it, must have been part Brazillian). I always ask and almost all say they are "Cherry Ass", 25% of them don't do BJ's and that is after I throw out all the cherry girls. Let's be realistic on the availability of backdoor action in AC.

Figures,
You can buy them in the department store in the SM mall on Clark....or so I've heard;)

All three of those hotels are great choices. I've stayed at all three and loved them all. If I had to pick one though, I would go with Pacific Breeze. Just my opinion though.

Yeah, saying half of them are willing to go backdoor is absurd...maybe 5%. Couple bars have mamasans that will point out the three holers but its rare in general. Most of the girls that are three holers have to do it because they are no longer attractive or have pussies so stretched out that the ass is the only thing they have left that is tight.

>>Let's be realistic on the availability of backdoor action in AC.

It's a challenge to find in AC, as most girls' first reaction to the question is to say they'll get you a billy boy if you want that. But there are gals willing to give it a try, if you can talk them into it. In my first couple trips to AC I managed to talk at least 3 girls into giving up that back door cherry, so it can be done. But none of them wanted the other girls at the bar to find out. Probably a combination of embarassment, and not wanting the girls to send all the guys asking for anal their way. And if you have a big dick - lotsa luck! I'm very average size, but definitely played that down while chatting up the potential candidates.

Thanks for all the responses. I looked at a few maps I could find but couldn't find "Tulip" bar. Too bad AC dooesn't have a place like Eden. Based on my prior experiences I'm assuming I won't get that there. Guess I'll just wait until I get in country to buy some high heels for the girls to wear at the mall. Don't want to waste money buying the wrong size here in the US and draggind them all the way to AC. I went ahead and booked at Wild Orchid for the pool to hang out at during the day. Hey, has anyone tried a cherry girl? Are they real virgins or reborn new again magically? Any idea what the price of a cherry girl is? Hey if anyone is going to be around beginning August 20th?

Cherry girls are real virgins and it is on their bar ID and verified by the hygeine department. I believe there is a V in the beginning of ID number.

I've heard the price for a cherry girl is 20,000 PHP or more but the girls don't give it up that easy, especially for a guy they just meet and are leaving town in the next couple of weeks.

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There is no cherry girl price. Some will give it up for free if they really like you and are ready .Others will negotiate a fee. Keep the momasan out of it if you are headed in that direction.

Neil from Stargate told me he had a Korean customer come into the bar and put 70,000 pesos down on the table to take Aiza - one of his cute cherry girls out and break her cherry. To her credit she said no she was not interested.

Aiza's on the right in this pic and a really sweet girl - she and Mary Jean are a hoot to barhop with . Will bring back some memories for Goodlife as well.

Photo: MJ & Aiza

KM,
Most cherry girls stay in the dorms and are heavily in debt to the bar (room and board).

True, They do not have to give it up if they don't want to but when a girl comes back non-cherry without the bar getting a taste of it the bar goes ape-shit and they strong arm the girl into paying them somehow, usually forcing them to BF against their will now that they are not cherry to repay their debt.

Sooo they ain't giving it up for free you may not have paid but someone is paying (her).

Take the following with th grain of salt in that I don't usually like nor seek out anal. I would say the percentage of girls for who anal is an item on their basic menu is certainly less than 50% and probably more than 5%, but closer to that 5% figure. I concur with Blazers that those who will simply offer their ass up to any barfine as a basic feature are for the most part gonna live amongst the fuglies you most often would never ask anything other than please can you leave me alone.

On the other hand the number of girl who will go anal off the menu for someone they have a more personal relationship with such as a good repoire, a regular, someone they invest a lot of chat time with, etc then I think the figure goes up significantly. But to answer Snooky's question, start by asking the older waitress types discreetly, or talk with the mamasans in some of the perimeter bars.

Mongerx...I think discreetly asking an older waitress or the mamasan makes good sense. I'll be back in BKK and Pattaya in November so I'll hit Eden and Hell club then and make up for it if AC doesn't pan out. Hey has anyone thrown a pool party at Wild Orchid before? I'm assuming I can just have a few of the BG help me with this...as in have them invite a bunch of girls and I can supply some eats. What I don't know is if Wild Orchid has an upcharge for this.

Wild Orchid Pool I believe has charge of 500 Pesos per head, however you can consume 500 Pesos in food and drinks per person, then it's free.

I believe they have eliminated the 500 peso charge - meaning you have to be registered there or a guest of someone to swim in the pool.

They have pool parties there but they are events organized by bars or Phils websites. Your party would depend on how many girls you are talking about . I sure you could get by with 3-6 girls without much problem if you are staying there but if you're talking about inviting 10-20 girls or more I'm sure the hotel would want cash up front or just flat say no.

Hi, it will also be my very fist time in AC.
I am thinking of staying at Doll House Hotel. Any thoughts?

Bad idea. Not a great hotel at all, and too much in the center of the noise.

Thanks Bwana dik.
The pics on the internet make it look quite nice.
I'm looking for quite a nice hotel. Any advice?

Tickler,

Look under the hotel thread in the Topics sections for ideas? Short answer, look at Pacific Breeze, Central Park, Swiss Chalet, Royal Amsterdam and (if you're a high roller Wild Orchid and Lewis Grand.

Enjoy your trip.

Ea

I'm at the Pacific Breeze and love it. Right in the center of Fields Ave. action but a block off Fields and quiet. If you're willing to pay $75-$85/night you can get big rooms with jacuzzis. Others swear by the Lewis Grand Hotel. Not quite as central as the PB, but it has nice rooms and is convenient to both Fields and the Perimeter. Still others like the Angeles Beach Club Hotel. Pricier, but very nice. The Wild Orchid is next to the Pacific Breeze, and some ike it although I think it's overpriced.

http://www.pacificbreezehotel.com/
http://www.lewisgrand.com/
http://www.angelesbeachclubhotel.com/index.html
http://www.wildorchidresort.com/

Ticklers, if you want the best bang for your buck also try www.savannahresortangeles.com rooms starting at $55US dols. I highly recommend it you will not be sorry.


Cheers!

Pacific Breeze cheerleader here !! Avoid Lewis Grand. See my report.