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Jhoanher,
Check out the following thread, maybe he can
help you out, he has a couple of photos posted
as well. Good Luck.
Central America: Panama: Advice/Questions/Commentary: Latinoqlion's Girls

I'm in Panama for couple of weeks. Would like a nice girl for companionship, to travel around and visit different places.... I don't mind paying a little for any sex, but mostly will cover expenses in exchange for companionship...

Any suggestions? Contact Numbers?

Hello All.

I will be in Panama City and Bocas Del Toro in February. I was wondering if there were any updates? We Will be there for Carnaval, so it should be interesting.

Thanks,

Mark

Mark,

How was Panama? I'll be there at the end of next week.

Were the reports helpful? I'm particularly interested in updated pricing if you remember.

I have a perculiar question. How is the quality on condoms there? The reason I ask is that I'd rather buy them there than here. I want to avoid the explanation of why I have 3 dozen condoms and lube in my luggage to the customs official.

I know sometimes the prices are much higher in foreign countries for the high quality condoms and lube. There are always local brands but they generally suck.

Any information from you or anyone else who has been there recently would be appreciated.

Especially if you have an updated report that you can post!

Sniper -

I hate buying condoms and lube too...never fails...I'll lay the shit down on the counter and somebody who knows me will walk-up and say hi.

One time my ex and I were at the grocery store buying all of the goodies for a romantic dinner and a night of fucking. We also needed a resupply of condoms. I laid down the fresh spinach for the spinach salad, the bottle of vinegar and package of bacon for the dressing, then a couple of steaks, fresh whole mushrooms, an assortment of fruits, a bottle of wine and a box of condoms tucked under and behind everything.

The very attractive check-out girl started scanning..."Hmmm", she said. "Somebody is having all of my favorite foods...aw wow, those are great looking steaks...and look at those grapes...and honeydew...and my favorite wine too! Wow, can I join you tonight?!" Then she saw the box of condoms, her mouth gapped, and I said, "Sure!"

Surprisingly, my ex thought it was funny too. Sure...she would go for a twosome with the check-out girl...but I monger once on my own and I get the boot. Oh well, I'm happier still.

If you get up the nerve to buy 3 dozen condoms and a bunch of lube, pack it in your checked luggage...that way you do not have to look eye to eye with homeland security. When you get to Panama...they very likely will not open your bags...well, at least while you are standing there. And, even if they do...laugh it off...say, "mi no habla espanol...mi mucho horny," then point to your dick.

Have fun next week! Bust a nut for me.

AlecJamer

I just landed in Panama and arrived at my hotel.

We are going to Golden Time tonight and then to Rock Cafe.

It will be in my DAY 1 report tonight!

Just did a post on Nicaragua and this is a follow on re my trip to Panama where I flew after leaving Nicaragua. Not much to add as I was met by my "girlfriend" who I had hooked up with on my previous visit and went straight to the beach for the weekend. However back in the city and when I could break free these are my observations. I was staying at the new casino Veneto across form Las Vegas and Manols Cafe.

Tried the old favourite of Oasis for my $50 lunch special. About 5 girls avaliable decent quality 5-7's and usual performance. Tried the one on Via Espana (Life times I think) no action and one in the mall opposite the casino on the street which intersects with Via Espana (the Grenada casino?) with absolutely no customers, although in both cases I was early at about 10.30 pm.

However pulled a very nice english speaker from manolos cafe for 2 hour of fun at $50. Last night got a really attractive ho in the casino (english speaker) who agreed to $30 for one shot. It was late at night and I had been drinking so I got my money's worth there.

Overall i think Manols is my favourite pick-up joint and the Veneto casino seem to be fertile grounds especially if you are staying there its very easy.

Never been to Manolos and never had tried girls in the casinos.

Good call, how did you know they were working?

Sniper -

Oh, you can tell pretty easy...usually they think up an overly obvious question to ask you, like, "Ju prom thee States?" Then you'll say, "huh? Oh, right...now I get it, you want sexo por dinero." Then she's say, "Jess, ju are a smarrr gringo."

I can imagine an American guy, sitting alone, sipping on a coke at Manolo's Restaurant (up the side-street from McDonald's on Via Espania) would attract a lot of working girls, especially if it is 11PM or later and the family scene has already gone home.

Actually, that is one-up on my bus stop idea at rush hour. I'm going to have to give this, late night sipping a coke idea in Manolo's or Nikko's a try.

If you can imagine, working girls usually want to get something to eat before heading home. After a night of working the casinos or the big hotel bars, their gonna get hungry. Manolo's or Nikko's Cafe are great "locals" type restaurants because the food is good and low priced.

I was at Nikko's on a side street off Via Espania with a new chica when another chica I fucked 2-3 times on my previous trip walked-in. Fortunately she was not one of my favoritas. I spotted her right away because I was sitting down as she entered, but when she picked up her tray, she glanced around and spotted me.

Had I been alone she & I, no doubt would have fucked again. But, now that I was with another chica, she gave me a look of recognition, but kept her distance.

AJ

I have never been too fond of Manolos. The ho's I have seen there on my visits, when sitting alone and having a bite or whatever, have been pretty fat and moderately homely. Via Espania, McDonalds and the internet Cafe's around there used to run replete with good looking street girls, but the cops have cut down on all that.

That new casino Ventos or whatever is a hopping place after 11pm for good looking semi-pros from my understanding. A lot are the very attractice "looking for gringo boyfriend" type.

SP

Venetos is ground zero for SW hangout now. I just got back last week. I had been to Panama City in November just after Venetos had opened. There were few if any girls in there.

This trip was unbelieveably different. My guess is that 99% of the single girls or girls in groups are working. They tend to hang around the main bar, the sports book and the penny slots. I found that most did not approach directly but once you motined them over the full court press was on. I got a decent looking girl with a smoking body out of there for $50.

I talked to her about the casino and she said the management does not bother the girls at all. And if you are staying there it is no problem brigning the girls up to the room.

But remember, these girls are just SW hanging around, No need to pay any premium rates.

Wow, learn something new everyday.

My last trip, I didn't have to pay at all. i met a girl on the plane from Colombia working in Panama. She was hot and it didn't cost me a dime.

I never was approached in the casino, but I am a big gambler so maybe they didn't want to approach me because I was busy placing bets.

I bet if the girl interferes in your gambling, they would mind.

I have been meaning to inquire about this for some time on this board, but did not know exactly where to place it or start. So I guess I'll just shoot from the hip and ask it here.

Admin: Edited. Discussion of prostitution in the US is strictly prohibited.

Sorry, did not know that!

Keep your wits about you when traveling from Tocumen to PC via Corridor del Sur. There have been several incidents where people have been robbed by gang members and supposedly even cops. I'm nor sure how the gangs pull you over, but best not stop for anyone...except the cops (fuckers can really screw you if they are beneath board).

It is believed that if Panamanian Customs officials at Tocumen discover you are carrying a lot of cash they will relay to their buds who will intercept you. Obviously, don't carry $10K or more because then you have a legal obligation to declare it. Obviously, if you are carrying less than $10K, don't declare it, and spread it around the best you can...maybe a money belt tucked low into your underwear (if you wear underwear) may keep some of it safe.

If anyone on this board experiences problems, please share with the rest of us.

Be careful, and pay attention for anything unusual.

AJ

Hey to AJ and all my Panama loving pals,

Just got back from another property buying trip toward the Santiago area on the Azuero Penn. Beaches are really pretty down that way, about 3 to 4 hours out of the city.

I have never had any problems on Corredor de sur, except that one time I wrote about last November when Bush was in town, and the place was covered every tenth with a sub machine gun yielding goon. But they seemed nice enough. I have noticed in Panama that if you do not bother anyone else, no one usually bothers you except for the guys who come up and ask you for money all the time. There aren't too many of them, but when they approach you they can be obnoxious.

My GFE and I were coming out of the car and going into the pet store on Punta Pacifica, and this moron insisted on showing us his gross abdominal scar while holding out his hand to beg. I swear, he looked like he would have slit my throat if he had the chance. He hung onto the car while we drove away..........stupid fuck. Upset my GFE pretty much......should have run him over and put him out of his miserable life of bothering good people.

I have been pulled over about 12 times in my travels about Panama. Each time I give the cop $5 or $10 to get him away from me, but BEWARE, you can only bribe them when they are ALONE, and after they go through their bull shit with you a bit. Do not offer right away, although this is what it will eventually come to. Shit, each time I just wish I could have slipped it to em without even stopping fully, since they keep you there about 10 to 15 minutes each time.

Something else interesting; My GFE and I are always very affectionate in public, and when we first see each other this is obviously intense. We were talking, and the rental car guy was doing what he does with his check list outside the arrival area at Tocumen. These two cops then come over and begin to question my GFE. Now me, I am very gringo looking and am busy talking with the rental guy. Obviously no suspicious activity; my GFE is the most Panamanian looking girl you would ever see. So they are asking her all these questions about where we are going, what we are doing together, if we both are Panamanian or Columbian............we finally just stop answering the questions and leave, but what a crock of shit! They starred us down as we pulled out of the airport. They were either interested in getting a piece of tail from my GFE or were interested in inventing something. Who knows? It was pretty odd, but I suppose next time we should be more discrete.

I have walked around my condo by Venetos many times late at night and into the wee hours of the mornings, and have always felt very safe. My friend has a real estate business down the road from my condo and he was robbed over the weekend, as some thug hack sawed off his lock and stole his laptop from his desk. This was the only thing they took.

Does anyone feel Panama is becomming unsafe or that the crime rate is on the rise? I would hate to invest more in that country only to find myself on the other side of a gun barrell one day.

PS - took my GFE to the Decameron......really good food and the beach was alright as well. Anyone else ever been there?

Steve

Steve

I have just completed 3 trips to Panama. I have felt very safe and have never expereienced the things you have. But you have traveled around more. I continue to walk the main streets of Panama City as late as 5 AM alone with no problems. But I am not naive enough to believe that trouble is not lurking there.

About Decameron. I tried twice to get a room there. Not succesful. The first time we went to Coronado instead. Would not recommend. It is not all inclusive and you must be shuttled to the beach. Very inconvenient.

The second time we went to Play Blanca which is close to Decameron. This was very nice all inclusive. Smaller than Decameron and not as "wild". But for a long weekend with your novia it is perfect. The beach, staff and service were wonderful. I would definitely go back. My girl loved it and we hated to leave.

Either there has been a recent up-tic in crime or I am now tapped into the grapevine where I frequently see and read about it...Panama News, Panama-Guide and Noriegaville.com.

A gang made a hit and mistakenly killed the wrong guy on Via Espania a couple of weeks ago...shot him as he sat in his car behind the wheel...shot him right in his head, through the windshield. The intended victim...his brother-in-law (another gang leader).

Colombians in Panama too get in on the violent crime game...a Colombian businessman was gunned down in another Colombian's plush high-rise apartment in the high rent district. Most people believe the hit was drug related.

Two women were robbed in their store, then kidnapped, then shot to death on Corridor del Sur. The gunmen were captured. They confessed that they kidnapped and killed the women because the women knew who these guys were.

Cops too have been busy shooting people lately...one cop shot and killed a man, again, on via Espania last month. Cops shot and killed a guy in La Chorrera after he shot and wounded a cop. (Like anywhere, shooting a cop pretty much signs your death warrant).

99% of the time, nothing ever happens to a guy minding his own business while mongering in Panama. But it's that 1% that can be a real bitch that turns ones' world upside-down...then multiplied a few fold because you are a foreigner in their country.

AJ

I know what you mean AJ, as this is totally starting to scare the shit out of me since I am investing heavily in Panama right now. Maybe time to look elsewhere? Last year an americano threw a whore out of his high rise condo window as well.
Steve

SP -

Thatīs right...Hotel Plaza Paitilla about a year ago.

Also, I wouldnīt sell and run...just use more caution when out and about.

Panama probably has the best infrastructure of all of the Latin America and South America mongering destinations. The government is sincerely trying to clamp down on corruption so they can raise their bond rating to get financing to expand the Panama Canal. The word has gotten out that Panama is a lot cheaper than Costa Rica (property cost and taxes)...so, if you already own property; likely it will appreciate.

Went to Relax Oriental last night for a very casual and pleasant fuck from a 21-year-old local chica. Got a great 30-minute full body massage...she had a great body, nice and tight. Face was a solid 6. My guess is her chest was a 32-B, but great perky nipples with half dollar sized red wine areolas. Perfect shaped ass...no flab or dimples. Medium height.

Actually I was surprised when I asked her how much to complete me after the massage. Without batting an eye she said "$40"...what the hell? Usually they start around $80 or even higher and I have to tell them how itīs gonna be.

Well, we got into the session quickly...I didnīt ask for a bj...I kissed her neck, and she reciprocated. Then I nibbled and sucked on her nice nipples, stroked her a bit and she was wet and ready. Had her in missionary for a while, flipped her over for a flat doggy style to completion...actually, very quick for me...I usually run a bit longer, but she popped my cork in only 15-minutes. (I must have been hornier than I thought). But, she had a great attitude and nice smile...so I got her name and number. Maybe Iīll do her again in a few days...if she is consistent, Iīll add her to my "keep in contact list".

Well, itīs good to be in Panama again. Not sure how much new talent I will tap into since I have a full schedule with my regulars. But, I just got no-showed by my favorita morena...the reason why I am in an Internet Cafe now rambling on...so, I may head to another MP and see what trips my trigger this afternoon.

AJ

AJ, soon we will meet up in my new home in Medellin. I should be completing the transaction in June.

Think Goldentime looks but with full GFE for about half the price.

Not as safe as Panama, but twice the fun. Also no Craps tables that siphon away my money!

Looks like we just missed each other AJ. If you ever see a pretty decent looking gringo walking around the via espania area with an absolutely gorgeous GFE, that would be me and my gal. We eat at Costa Azul, that 24 hour cafe quite a bit when we are in town together. We are pretty much an unmistakable, remarkable and unique couple that makes everyone look. You'll notice us if we are there at the same time as you. My next trip is sometime in May actually but I do not know when.

SP

My novia and I eat at Costa Azul all the time after hitting the bars & clubs. Was there two AMīs ago.

Also, got hooked-up with a local bud from Canada and another from Switzerland...they took me to Bolero (Cuban bar)...damn place was across the street from my old apartment! Walked in, had a couple of drinks. Probably a dozen or so Colombian chicas with three or four pushing 8 & 9 with one absolutely solid 9 in looks. I saw nothing below a 6. I didnīt get a chance to talk to the solid 9 but my Swiss bud loaded her number into his cell phone. Unfortunatley I couldnīt stay long as my novia was getting off from work at midnight and we were heading to the clubs.

I think someone reported on Bolero...I was impressed. Mark this one as a must go to place when mongering in Panama. I didnīt stay long enough to find-out what the chicas are charging for a fuck...Iīll find-out before I depart. Also, my favorite Italian restaurant is just down the street too.

Iīll get on Google and get a SAT image of the place...just West of the Miramar Towers and BBVA bank.

AJ

Yes, Bolero is a happening place.......on many nights lots of great talent. Haven't been there in a while though since the novia has been meeting my needs. I would venture to say that Bolero is the best place for talent in Panama.

SP

A question for whoever may know. I lost touch with a wonderful Chica about a year ago and now want to re-connect with her. I know her full name but not her Cedular. Is there any way to discover Cedulars in Panama for the purpose of finding out where people are and how you can contact them? Or, is there some kind of phone directory for cell phones?

SP

I will be going to Panama for the first time. Will be staying at the Marriot. Can anyone tell me if this hotel is girl friendly ( like in thailand). Are there any places good to go nearby.

If she is dressed fairly decently there probably won't be too much of a problem. They may make her register and show ID but that is more for your protection and security of other hotel guests than anything else.

There are several very good and recent trip reports on the Panama scene in the archives. Check em out. You will prpbably get your fill. Of course, Goldentime is a must see.

ijediseek -

Get into a cab and ask the driver to take you to Restaurante de Bolero...it's only a mile (if even that) from the Marriott...should cost you maybe $1 to $1.25 in cabfare.

It is a Cuban Restaurant...many "very hot" Colombian hookers frequent it. Drinks aren't cheap though...$5 or more for a mixed drink.

It also is a good place to eat. However, when exiting Bolero thru the front door, follow the street to your left maybe 100 yards is the best Italian Restaurant (food and price wise) in PC...it is called "Viejo Piepo" Viejo means Old...I'm not sure what Piepo means...maybe People.

Order
Appetizer: Tomato Pan con Queso
Drink: Pitcher of Sangria wine
Food: Corvina (baked or fried) de Broccoli y Gorgonzola
(Fried or baked filet of Sea Bass with a Gorgonzola cheese sauce with chunks of broccoli ladled over the filet). You also select the type of pasta you want on the side (Angel hair, fettachini, spaghetti, etc.)...all pasta is homemade. Cost about $40 for two. It is great!

AJ

ijediseek,

My preference around that area is the Riande Continental Hotel right up the street from the Marriott; it is directly on Via Espania. You can drive your car into the lot privately and go in the back entrance, where there is an elevator by the Casino which is very private; I personally brought 7 different Chicas up those elevators; sometimes different ones in the same day, and no one ever knew about what a monger I was being since I did not have to go past the front desk. In all, the best place for privatacy I have found there, and close to everything......a bit pricy though.... around &95 a night.

SP

Is Panama like Colombia as far as dress codes? I know that they don't like to see men in shorts. They spot you as a gringo right away?I'll be in Panama the last two weeks of October. Are any of you Mongers going to be there?

I wore shorts around the hotel and when I went out to eat but jeans when going to any of the clubs/brothels.

They'll spot you as a gringo regardless of what you're wearing. It helps to blend in best as possible, however. That's why I like Rio - everyone is running around in shorts, t-shirts and flipflops. Much easier to blend in there, assuming you're not wearing sports team gear or are pasty white.

Shorts is a DEFINITE GRINGO detection devise. Leave them home. Give them as little chances as possible to smell the "gringo green."

SP

You can do shorts for some things...if you go to the playa...you are expected to wear shorts...so I always pack a pair or two.

I've even worn jam shorts down to my knees when running around...McDonald's or the grocery store...whatever.

But whenever I go out for the evening...restaurant and/or nice bar...I always wear nice blue jeans or Dockers and clean looking tennis or leather shoes.

AJ

If you're a white gringo...they will figure it out, especially once you open your mouth.

Thanks guys for the info. Are there any other clubs to meet semipros other than Bolero?

Hey guys,

I am looking at making a trip to Cartagena in July and thinking about a two day stop in Pananma. The hitch I am finding is that for airport convience I would be out of Boston and rigging COPA to get the free stop adds $300 or so to my costs. Kinda tearing my hair out to find a work around. Cheapest BOS to CTG I can find in $636 which is acceptable, but does not go through Pananma.

Admittedly, Panama is not high on my list of places to visit and the recent reports of declines in the numbers available for P4P are discouraging. Main reason for a stop off would be to add some extra flavor to the trip.

Any ideas?

Is the Marriott in Panama City, chica friendly.
Bobbie

Bobbie,
No problem at the Marriott....no chica fee, they're cool. The staff usually watches as I pick up the girls at Habanos from across the street. I have walked two in the lobby at once on several occassions.

Hello Guys:

Panama is a hot place at the moment and Habanos is a great place to meet chica's. In the future if you want a nice place to party you can stay at my condo. A few of CH members stay there and had a great time. I am in Panama one week out of every month and I have a great time every time. I have a nice list of phone numbers of many chica's if you are interested.

royalsutton..

Steve,

I also took my GFE to the Decameron......I agree that the beach is fine... food and booze o.k. as well. I wouldn't recommend more than three full days... just my 2 cents.

Speaking of which - you still got that place in Panama? How is the crime scene this year versus what you said about last year. Haven't been since June 06 and wondering what the latest is.

I never got stopped in PTY in more than a dozen trips (most a week to four weeks long). I try to respect the cultural differences and always tend to have a Latin friend or novia with me and it doesn't seem to come up. I too was in town when Bush visited the two visits of his ago (summer 05) and notice tighter security but still had no trouble. When you speak to the cops TRY to use spanish.. say things in spanish like sorry sir I speak very little spanish. That increases their attitude... if you can speak it your in really good shape as long as you aren't gringo arrogant. THey all hate that. Know that you have money and are american, jsut don't tell people

As for the shorts thing, had two different novias tell me that shorts in spanish speaking countries is something only four types of males wear:

1. gays
2. little kid boys
3. idiots gringos to be robbed
4. all others at the beach/pool ONLY

It is considered unprofessional (if you desire being taking seriously) goofy and spells "lack of understanding their culture". I would go further than what most have said and tell you SHOULDN'T wear shorts. Latins take fashion very seriously and when we don't they actually lose respect and assume that we are not their equal and are inferior or weak somehow. Don't get me started on the Latin thought process of what they do when they smell weakness...

I say this with a Latin wife, a latin in-law family, three long-term novias and many good male and female latin friends... Really, keep your respect and dignity, unless your at the beach or swiming by keeping your pants/jeans on.

just my 2 cents,
Like Latina

Any special ladies at the Le Palace in Panama for take out. Love the BBBJ, etc. Going there in a week and am very excited about my first trip there. I hear good things about Golden Times.

hello gentlemen, any recommandations for visit away from panama city. away from building, place to stay on nice beach and fun, party...

Intercontinental-play bonita is about 30 minutes out of Panama City, very nice location, beach and pools. Friendly staff-chica friendly-my GFE and I spent four nights there. We drove into the city a couple of times-hit LePalace-Venetos-she likes to see me have a good time. Good girls are hard to come by.

I had an evening to kill in Panama City at the end of a business trip. Armed with the excellent guides from this board (thanks Alecjamer and Vladimir in particular) I thought I would seek out some FL talent. I tried Hard Rock Cafe and Bolero and drew a blank at both. There were a handful of girls at both establishments who looked like they might do FL, but they were hanging out with local guys of their own age and there did no seem to be any scope for hitting on them. There were a few SGs hanging around in various locations but these looked well past their sell-by date - they would have had to pay me to go with them! In the end I gave up and went to the Oasis Massage for some action (see Oasis thread for report). I could hardly return home after a trip to Panama without at least one session, could I?
I am not sure why I encountered such a shortage of FL talent on my visit. It was a Friday evening so the place should have been buzzing. I can only assume that there must have been a police cleanup that has cleared the streets and clubs of working girls. It would be interesting to know whether other mongers have had a similar experience here in recent weeks.

PS
I noticed an establishment called Midnight Gentleman's Club on the Via Espania near my hotel (the Continental). This appeared to be a lapdancing club that had recently opened. I did not go in there to investigate but would be interested to know if anyone has given it a try. I assume in places like this, the girls are available for takeaway, at least as a one-to-one transaction, if not on an official basis.

Newbie to Panama...What parts of the country is where all the mongering happens..Be specific on what areas because I have never been & need to look at a map to get my bearings on the country..thanx

You need to read AJ's guide to Panama on this board which has everything you could possibly need for happy mongering. It is 90% going to happen for you in Panama City at the areas disclosed in his report.

Elim Garak

I was in the cigar bar (Habanos) in March 07. Lots of Colombians working but very few men. I was wondering about the waitresses. Do they work after closing? There was a waitress there that spoke pretty good english but I didn't get a chance to ask her.

How about the waitresses at the other places?


I'll be there in October so would like to find out.

Mark -

Good to see you on-line again.

After closing they all work...if the price is right, or you have good game.

AJ

Good to be back!

I was in PC this Feb/March and visited a few of my old spots. The club on Via Espana next to El Ray supermarket keeps changing names. It was life girls, now is Midnights?

Any way they have rooms for about $140/hr. Some nice Colombian talent, but it is hard to get take out since the women live there.

I'll be back in October so I hope to have some new info for the board.

Cheers!

Mark

A "Push Button" (motel) is designed to provide discretion for Panamanians who want to fuck...but can't fuck at home because they live with mom & dad or they have a wife or husband at home.

But Push Buttons can be used for mongering especially if you are like me and you do not like to fuck whores in the hotel room where you sleep.

The way a Push Button works is this. There is usually a well lit entrance way with neon signs along many of the major roadways (I found one as I approached San Miguelito)...usually the entrances are lit-up with neon lights in the shape of hearts or an image of a sexy woman...I saw one called the "Tunnel of Love" and another one was called "Amor".

Typically there is a long driveway that leads to a hidden courtyard between several one-story buildings. The courtyard is surrounded by garage doors. An open garage door means the room is vacant, clean, and ready for the next guest.

The guest drives their car into the garage and pushes a garage door button on the wall to close the door (hence the term "Push Button"). There is usually an intercom box on the wall to discuss the rental terms.

Upon agreeing to the terms the attendant will electronically buzz the door leading to the room. On the far-side of the room there is usually a rotating dumb-waiter device or small sliding solid wooden panel window where you can make payment. You may see a hand behind the panel and hear a voice...but there is no facial contact...the rental of the room is totally discreet.

Most "Push Buttons" charge around $15-$20 for a 2-hour rental with hourly extensions for a nominal rate...maybe $10 per hour or so. The rates are actually pretty good considering the size of the rooms and the quality amenities available.

I was amazed the first-time I went to a Push-Button. The room I rented had multi-level floors (sunken bedroom), a large tiled hot-tub Jacuzzi...the large flat screen (plasma TV), green plants, a quality stereo, a nice table with chairs, ice bucket, glasses & ash trays...nice living room furniture, a king-size bed with mirror on the ceiling, dimmer light switches by the bed, a music/TV volume switch on the wall with speakers mounted in the ceiling...and an a/c switch on the wall. When I turned the TV on...I had numerous x-rated TV channels to choose from. On the bed there was a clear plastic bag with large clean white towels, wash cloth, and soap. On the table next to the bed there was a large room service book...I could order almost anything I wanted...food, liquor, cigarettes and cigars, condoms, lubes & lotions, vibrators, dildos and all sorts of sex toys...all with pictures & pricing info. If I wanted Dom Perinon...I could order it for a little over $100. If I wanted a Cuban cigar...they had a dozen to choose from with pricing that ranged from the cheap $3 stogies to the $25 El Presidente.

Everything was reasonably priced...no gringo pricing. This is because Push Buttons are typically created for the poor locals who tend to live in family unit homes (grandparents, parents, siblings, their husbands and wives and kids under one roof where they cannot get any privacy). Maybe once every other month a Panamanian will take his girlfriend or secretary to a Push Button for a couple hours of luxury.

My only criticism I had was my room was so large that the air conditioning (a split unit mounted on the wall) was inadequate to properly cool the room to gringo comfort levels.

Anyway...here is an article I found at www.panama-guide.com

Probably a good idea to pant-down your whore before entering a Push Button.

AJ


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La Critica - The body of a man of about 35 years old was found with a single gunshot wound to the head in a "push button" in Monte Carlos. The body of the victim was found face down in the door of room #30 of the push button, dressed in shorts and black sneakers. Inside of another room a red shirt was found that is presumed to belong to the victim, because from that point several blood stains were visible that ended in the place where the body was found lying. The authorities are investigating.

Thanks AJ. I used the pushbuttons in Panama occasionally when I couldnt risk a surprise visit to my hotel. Usually went there with one time chicas. Your report is accurate, as uaual. I was completely impressed by how nice, modern and clean it was. The only safety issue you would have is the person you bring.
The only challenge I found was that I went by taxi since I did not have a car. Just makes it a little more complicated when it is time to go. You dont want the guy waiting inside the "garage".

Incidentally, one of my regular girls in MDE suggested we go to one with some of her girlfriends. They have several party suites, with a pool! This was extremely cool. Not sure if any of the ones in PTY have the same amenities.

I will be in Bocas for a few weeks during Carnival. Anyone know if there is any new action in the islands? I heard a rumor of a strip club going in out there? Please email at lowtide60@hotmail.com.

Got a question for my fellow CHers out there; I have been to Rio for Brazilians with success, have been to the DR for dominicanas also with success, question....where can I find Panamanian chicas in Panama, specifically the brown to darker skinned ladies?
Some have said I may have to go to Colon on the east coast of Panama, but I find it very hard to believe that with the enormous population of Panama City that there are no sista's to be enjoyed. Please help me on this one guys, I know they are there, it seems that Colombian chicas rule the scene in Panama according to the testimonies on CH. Thanks in advance.

going in feb. to panaman city, panama, tenatively planning on the crowne point hotel formerly, holiday inn, any suggestions

You around AJ or gonna be in Panama? Its Eliim.......remember me?

It's been a while since I've posted anything on this site about Panama. Kind of been hibernating due to lack of vacation time; gotta new job after I retired from the other a little more than a year ago. I had to start-over earning vacation time. I've got a couple of weeks saved up, but I may not get back to Panama until this summer or next fall at the earliest.

Last time I was in Panama was a little more than a year ago. But I spent 20-days there banging a mix of non-pros, semi & a few professionals. Kind of a retirement gift to myself.

I just read the most recent trip report on Panama and it was written a fairly long-time ago. The report seemed to indicate that Panama seriously sucked. I'm sure Panama did suck for that guy because he planted himself in the vicinity of Veneto Hotel & Casino and did not and probably could not venture beyond that because he was new and inexperienced to Panama.

Frankly, I don't bother with casino hookers or the red-light area around Veneto. That area is a freak-show. All you will find there are burn-outs asking over $100 to bang their sloppy cunt or you may find a few that look doable, but they want two or three times what the burn-outs want. Fuck that.

Let me provide some advice:

First Hotels - If you've never been to Panama, your first trip you will probably pay too much for lodging because you naturally would feel you can't trust a $40 or $50 per night hotel. Instead you will stay at one of the big or brand name hotels that charge $100+ per night with some reasoned assurance you will get your money's worth. But this will likely cause you to limit your mongering vacation time in Panama. Lodging can easily be your greatest expense in Panama.

My recommendation: Do an Internet search for investment apartments for rent in Panama City for short-term stays. My last trip I managed to find an American in a Yahoo discussion group who owned an investment apartment that was managed by a Panamanian company (Casa Panama or Panama Casa???). I started chatting with this guy off-line and discovered his investment was not paying regularly. He shared photos of his apartment with me. It wasn't a huge place, but it definitely was bigger than what any of the more expensive hotels would provide. The apartment was fully furnished with full kitchen, split a/c in the two main rooms (living room and bedroom) right on Balboa Ave. A/C worked good. Bathroom had a 1/2 tub and hot shower, tons of built in cabinets and a safe. The apartment came with a complimentary cell phone (which I didn't need). Cable TV with DVD player. Cable Internet - pretty good for Panama but I did suffer an outage for nearly a day+ due to a dump truck accident down the street; somehow it took down the Internet.

Short-term stays of a few days he wanted $100 per night, but longer stays he would provide a discount. I suggested to him that I would rent his place for 20 nights at a rate of $42 per night (total $840). I chose $42 because the hotel I would otherwise stay at charged $42 per night. He accepted my offer. Using Paypal I put down a security deposit. It turned-out to be a very good deal for me.

The apartment was nice. Exactly as advertised. Since I rented a car I parked it in the garage at the base of the building (but they will send a driver in a new Toyota Avalon to pick you up at the airport for $30). I met all of the guards who provided 24/7 armed security. The apartment was on the 8th or 9th floor; plenty high for added security. The door to the apartment was a heavy duty steel security door. From the inside I could drive additional deadbolts into the floor, into the door jam at the top and on the side (this was a first for me - I thought it was pretty cool and I definitely felt safe sleeping at night).

Other cheap but good hotels for fellow mongerers I'd recommend: Hotel California and Hotel Centro-Americano (near Hawaii Center).

Second, Where to Find Chicas? - Again, my personal rule is to not cruise casinos looking for chicas. Tourists hang-out in casinos and the hookers there have been spoiled by tourist gringos who felt they must impress hookers by paying US prices. Instead, do a little research within this website and on-line to find all of the massage parlors. Massage parlors are a guaranteed lay.

My personal strategy involves trying to find a non-pro or semi-pro in the many bars and discos in PC first. If that doesn't work, I will go to a massage parlor to bust a guaranteed nut.

In the bars I've picked up Panamanians who were not hookers, but instead were hoping for a legitimate gringo novio (boyfriend). I've picked-up semi-pros who really didn't come right out to cut a deal but hinted that a meal and some spending money would be acceptable. Often I will find Colombian hookers. Let me tell you - they are sharks and they all shoot for the moon when you ask them how much for a fuck. I've had Colombians start at $300 but eventually settle for $60. (After they learn I was not a naive tourist). Let me tell you, if you accept their initial terms for anything more than $100 you are a schmuck. Remember, in the Latin world you have to barter with hookers to cut a business deal. It is all about respect. A hooker will fuck you harder if you cut a good, but fair business deal because she can respect you. If you simply dole out the cash without negotiating she will think you are subservient to her, a weak man, and she will not respect you. In some negotiations I've turned my back and started to walk away when a chica realized that some money is better than none. My personal limit is $100 with tip included. Often I fuck for much less. So should you.

Another way to find woman is to join an on-line international dating site. I found one and spent something like $50 for 6-months. Over that period I strictly limited my search to Panama. I screened my search for women who were 28-38 because women in this age group are desperate to find a husband, especially if they have a kid or two, and they are still very fuckable. Initially I screened by photo (I realize they lie too). I also did my best to find women that spoke some English. After a while I had 20+ Panamanian (and a few Colombian women living in Panama) communicating with me on a regular basis. I knew the Colombians were hookers, but the Panamanians, at least most of them, were not. Within a month of my trip to Panama I realized I had to down-size. I knew I couldn't fuck all 20+ in 20-days. So I selected those I thought were the top 10 (most likely to fuck me based upon our previous e-mail and telephone calls). I then suggested to the remaining women that my travel plans changed. I told them if I can manage to get to Panama I would call them.

The top 10 I made arrangements to meet. I started with the ones that seemed the most compatible and fuckable. I didn't try to fuck any of these women the first-time we met. But by the second meeting I could pretty much tell if I was going to get some action. In the end, I fucked 4 out of 10. 2 of the 10 decided when we met that I really wasn't their type which pissed me off because they were really hot. Another 2 I never got to meet because the 4 I fucked took up all of my time. I still stay in touch with 3 of them and one even came to the USA to spend a week with me. When I go back to Panama I know all 3 will fuck me again. 3 of the 4 I fucked were not hookers and didn't ask me for as dime. The 1 Colombian (hooker) fucked me 3 different times for $80 each (less than $250) and she stayed with me in my apartment for 3-4 hours each time. By the way, she was pretty damn hot. Definitely worth the money I spent on her.

The only real draw-back about using an on-line dating site is you have to spend a lot of time looking at tons of photos and profiles. Filters are helpful if the site provides filters to help find English speakers. But then again, their photo & looks make or break them. You also need to be a fairly smooth writer and keep good notes so you don't screw up and get caught in a lie. In addition, on a few instances a few girls knew each other and outed me with their friends that I was basically saying the same thing to them. That sucked.

There are literally thousands of fuckable women in Panama City at any given time except holidays. For one person to bed-down in just one location and then suggest that all of Panama City sucks is like a hunter later bitching in the bar that he didn't see anything because he was looking the wrong way while all the game walked behind him.

If you go to Panama you must read-up on Panama and get smart and have a plan or strategy to go to several places listed within this site or what you can find on-line.

I never heard of anyone who went to Panama to monger and did not get laid. I heard of many who went and felt like they literally hit the jackpot. When I listen or read their story most did some advanced research and had a plan or strategy. Then there are others who bitch because they didn't plan ahead and they fucked a bitch for $300 and then later learned she would have fucked them for $60.

AJ

"A hooker will fuck you harder if you cut a good, but fair business deal because she can respect you. If you simply dole out the cash without negotiating she will think you are subservient to her, a weak man, and she will not respect you."

No truer words have been written on this site.

Interesting data here.

Even though you have to spend a lot of time online searching, sounds like you enjoy the search.

Thanks for the information.

MM

Alec - Concise and well written: Thanks.

What was the yahoo group? Also, do you mind giving up the contact info for the apartment either by PM or publicly?

Haven't seen you post in a looooong time. This was a very good writeup on a venue rarely reported on. Thanks...

Nice post AJ. Miss the old days of your posts on the topic. I agree that PTY is what you put into it.

All I would add is - the guys who aren't looking for semi and/or non pros should simply go to Massage parlors or Golden Time (if they have the extra cash). As AJ says the Casinos, streets, and strip clubs etc aren't worth the hassle or the inflated prices.

Just checking back in again. Someone sent me a personal message asking for feedback. Glad I checked this thread.

I appreciate the compliments. I've always enjoyed sharing what I know about Panama, but I am so busy that often I cannot find time to come back to this site. But every couple of months I'll try to check-in.

SF Hombre - I monitor the Yahoo discussion Groups on Panama. One is called americans_in_panama (at)yahoogroups (Dot)com and the other is called the Panamaforum (at)yahoogroups (Dot)com. Most people that blog on those sites are 50+ years old expats. You can ask the group general questions about Panama and you'll usually get a bunch of responses (some useful, some not). But if you are planning a trip to Panama and you are looking to rent a short-term apartment, posting a quick note at either of those sites with your interest and I am sure you'll get tons of offers with pictures. You could even use the open forum to cause investment apartment owners to compete for your business. With the economy the way it is I am sure those with investment property are paying-out more than they are taking in.

If anyone needs to get a hold of me just send me a personal message to my inbox and I'll get a notice within my private e-mail. I usually always respond.

AJ

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The only real draw-back about using an on-line dating site is you have to spend a lot of time looking at tons of photos and profiles. ... You also need to be a fairly smooth writer and keep good notes so you don't screw up and get caught in a lie.

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I am headed down to PTY next week. Can someone lead me in the right direction for a little chica time? I am looking for quick in and out service, I am staying on business and need to be discreet. Many thanks fellow Hombres!

There is an in airport strip club (unadvertised) next to the American Airlines Admiral's Club.

Ladies a mostly Colombian, and a few Brazilians.

Golden Time. Any taxi can get you there (albeit at a small premium for their commission).

Nice looking, mostly Colombianas, quick in and out will cost you around $100. Very discreet place.

Very much appreciated!

Does the strip club really reside in the airport? That is awesome! I can get 100's of pilots to jump on that! HAHAHAHAHA!

I will give Golden Time a shot.

I think MM might have some beach front property near Las Vegas to sell as well. LOL

I do not appreciate your sarcastic innuendos. The property is next to Lake Tahoe.

Moondog, now that's a name I haven't seen for a long time. Where's he been, and his ol' buddy Ezy?

Not Ezy to know where those guys are.

MM

ps: I think Moondog retired. Maybe someone else is using his name.

Ezy, I think he decided to be incognito in Quito or BA. What do you think?

Ok, I am "in country" at the Hotel El Panama where do I go from here?

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You could also ask the tourist police.

I was kidding on the previous post. I did manage to run into a new club called "Doll House" owned by a nice Russian guy named Leo. It is right next to the Oasis and from what I saw it is super clean and very upscale almost like Cafe Foto in Sao Paulo Brazil! I will take one for the team in the next couple of days and report back.

Why don't you just go to Oasis?

Oasis sux about 60% of the time. The other 40% ain't top tier neither.

Went to "Doll House" last night, right next to Oasis. Was very clean and upscale the girls were all in the 7-9 range. I took a hot little chica from Bogata back for some really nice action. All services were offered inlcuding DFK.

doll house how much?

Doll house is closed, busted for drugs, and the Russian Mafi...all second hand but I did see all the clubs shutdown on the street except for Oasis.

Just returned to the US after a month in Panama. Just read a few reviews, from those who turn this getting laid by a hooker thing into a full time project, planning weeks in advance...well I personally don't have the time to fuck around doing that work to save $20 here and there. Anyway, here's the scoop as a seasoned traveler to Colombia, Costa Rica, Brazil and too many places to name, on a scale of 1-10 Panama is a 2. Someone mentioned the Veneto and is right on...an absolute rip off with average hookers shooting for the moon and some silly pricks giving then it. Then there's Habanas...both places full of Colombians who are all business. First question, "what's your name" second question, " where you staying"...this is big to them bc many...make that most hotels in Panama will not let you in with a hooker, 3rd "You pay $150" 4th, "you ready now". Being somewhat seasoned I blew most of these off, but that didn't stop Joe blow rushing out the door with them. No Joke, before I finished my cigar and 2 beers they were back in the bar for round 2 or who knows maybe round 3. It took some careful weeding and patience to land anything decent at a decent price and even then they were all clock watchers. Simply put, it's all about supply and demand and there is a ton of development going on in Panama city and plenty of Foreigners willing to pay top dollar for the few decent hookers there. The locations are very limited now...the Oasis is closed...one other name i can't remember was posted here but in a nutshell, Veneto and habanos is just about it unless you go to golden times for the brothel experience which i didn't. I drove all over Panama and there's no typical action such as hooker bars anywhere other than Panama City. Overall Panama is not your best bet if you want to go and get laid and fall in love with your hooker girlfriend unless you are ready to shell out big bucks...btw, i read a lot of these older posts and man are they old...why not delete them after soooo long...stupid posts about wearing shorts...which is bullshit..everyone wears them and how to peak spanish to cop...all a load of bullshit...just be yourself, don't be an asshole...unless you are one naturally of course and you will be fine, Panamanians are very friendly people and other than the colombian hooker experiences i had a great time.