When I first started mongering in Panama years ago and before I even knew there were so many who love to partake in my favorite hobby, I developed a fantasy of sorts to make a series of homemade mongering videos for my personal home use.

Back then I had a basic, but nice home video Sony Super 8mm and a tripod. Before I would just whip-out the video equipment and scare the chica...I would hint that I would love to make a video...if my chica seemed interested, then I would expand on the idea eventually producing the camera and tripod.

In the late 90s I filled two extra long 8mm tapes with 8 or 9 sessions each with differing favoritas. To my surprise, these videos turned-out very well. Even in low light, I generally could get a pretty good picture. I did a good job getting the angles. Most of my chicas cooperated with me holding position so I could zoom in for a close-up of their pussy, then I would run over and slip my dick inside her and hit the remote to resume recording the close-up of my dick slam fucking her pussy.

I sure had fun making those videos and I even started dreaming up scripts to provide a limited story line. My favorite scenario is the quid-pro-quo....you know, the landlord collecting the rent...she has no money...my, my, my...how can you pay-off your debt?..."oh, I know...I'll fuck you."

By default...most whores are liars...therefore, they actually make pretty good actresses. There were several of them who loved to roll play. I made another clip where I played a gringo Private Eye. A local Pan chica was trying to find the gringo who fathered her kid so she could get child support. She came to my hotel seeking my help to track down this guy who has since returned to the states. I gathered all the information she could provide. Then I told her my fee was $1,000 a week. Obviously, she didn't have the money, but she was desperate to find this guy and she was willing to do anything. She did a great job trying to talk her way around having sex which made that clip even more provacative. Eventually as she started to give in she would hesitantly allow me to intimately touch her...but, then she would pull back and reconsider. Then she let me fondle her tits through her shirt...then she pretended to change her mind and pull away. But before she would fully cover-up and leave, she would have a change of heart and each time I would get a little further and further until I eventually fucked her. Overall, the anticipation...would I get to fuck her or not?...made the clip pretty damn hot. In the end I gave her a Rodney type blast. Yep, I had a lot of fun back then.

Most of the time I video taped in a hotel room. A couple of times I carried my camera and tripod in a bag into a massage parlor...I made a couple flicks banging chicas on the edge of the massage tables most of you probably still use today.

In the late 90s most of the chicas I was regularily screwing didn't seem to have any hang-ups with me videotaping our sessions. (I wonder how receptive they are given how the Internet has grown?). Afterwards, they liked to review the tape so that they could see how sexy they looked from an angle they never get to see.

When I moved back to the US I smuggled the tapes with me. I kept the tapes for a couple of years hidden in a basement air duct in my home. When my wife would take the kids somewhere, I would pull-out my tapes to remember and miss all the fun I had in Panama.

As my kids grew bigger and were able to climb and stand on furniture and step ladders, I increasingly became uncomfortable that my hidden tapes could be discovered.

One day when I had a roaring fire in the fireplace, I tossed the tapes into the blaze. I was emotionally split...between the relief that the tangeable proof that I've been fucking other women was now destroyed, but I was also torn by the fact that I would miss those videos and the memories making them.

I'm thinking about buying a new video camera...one with a built-in HD. After taping I can transfer the video to my laptop. Using film editing SW, I can actually make a quality home video.

Once again I am thinking about returning to Panama and doing a little private porn production. Fred Salif (professional porn producer) got nailed not from making porn videos in Panama (which is legal), he got nailed because he told everyone exactly what he was doing. Someone told some under-age kids to climb neighborhood trees so they could see over the atrium walls into the courtyard and pool where Fred was taping. Fred got nailed for contributing to the delinquency of kids. Poor bastard. He just got out of jail too...all charges dismissed. Making Porn in Panama is not illegal. Letting kids watch is.

If I make more private home porn videos in Panama I will likely choose Colombian whores. They are in Panama usually for a limited duration. Since they are foreign whores, they are less likely to attract attention to themselves. They just want to fuck and get paid for it. I'll just be some guy who videotapes our session...just as I have done in the past.

But now I am wondering....if I make videos...albeit home or amateur videos...I wonder if I could make any money selling these videos? I will always spend the bucks to go mongering....why not make money doing my hobby to cover the bills? I could start a XXX website and sell my videos, or maybe sell my videos on consignment via another pre-existing XXX site or any of the local porn shops where I live.

If I hire a lawyer in Las Vegas to legally incorporate me and provide me with all the required docuementation that all the other low and high budget porn studios use...If I dub my tapes with all of the legal intros and caveats...If I collect proof of age and sexual consent and keep it on file as required by law...Then, basically I could create my own legal porn company, right?

I'm sure I am not the first guy to think about doing this. I actually bought a porn tape where a couple of black dudes took a trip to the Dominican Republic. They taped themselves mongering about in all the clubs until they found the women that they wanted to fuck. They brought them back to their hotel. They took turns videotaping their bud fucking his chica. They dubbed all the sessions together on DVD and sold it to me for $19.95. Damn. I can do that.

I have the resources for the equipment. I have the resources to pretty much travel and stay anywhere in the world. I can hire a lawyer to incorporate and legally advise me. I have the resources to start a website. I have a friend who is a doctor in Panama...I figure I should medically screen the talent...including birth control, etc., because making porn requires barebacking for it to be any good....gotta have the money shot.

Plus, I've successfully done this before short of commercially selling the product.

I see this as something fun to do...just to give it a shot. Since I will spend the money anyway...why not?

Thoughts?

AJ

You have to ask yourself, "Do I want to be an internet pornographer"

Look at Larry Flint. That's about as good as it gets. I'm not talking about his being shot, but at how he is viewed in society at large.

He is a very legitimate businessman with publishing businesses that have NOTHING to do with porn as well as Hustler. He is looked at with both respect and revulsion.

You burned your previous tapes. Has anything changed since then. Would you care if your family knows that you are an internet pornographer.

Me, I like to go to foreign countries and have paid sex with prostitutes and pretend that I am falling in love. Much simplier.

Smitopher -

Yes. I want to be a pornographer...that is why I wrote this blog about wanting to be a pornographer.

This is the wrong forum to be a holier-than-thou type...especially one that pretends they are falling in love with hookers...what are the consequences of pretending to fall in love?...the chica ends-up with a broken heart when she discovers you were pretending to love her just to get GFE out of her. That's not very nice.

I could care less what anybody "thinks" if I were to produce a porn flick. Hell, somebody had better do it or there are going to be a lot of lonely men out there struggling to maintain an erotic mental picture of that chica they last fucked 20-years-ago!

Also, you can't compare a wannabe start-up like me to a person like Larry Flint. He made millions doing what he does, but he also is a controversial and vocal person who seeks the lime light to debate his moral beliefs against the religious right. I don't seek the lime light. I don't care if people like porn or dislike it...to each his own....I just say you want it fine...if not, get out of my face.

If I recruit some honeys for a flick (recruiting is my fun) and then afterwards hire some studs to fuck them on camera (I'm in my 40s...I'm not going to be the stud star), how IS society going to look upon me? My answer...I don't care. Hell, name me one porn producer or director that you can identify on sight, other than Larry Flint. Unless they starred in a fuck flick (pasting their face on the screen) or by coincidence you actually know somebody...nobody knows who they are. They guy sitting next to you in church could be a porn producer for all you know.

Therefore, I am not too worried about everyday people ostracizing me as they see me mowing my lawn. Not a whole lot of people could really know who I am if I am directing and producing and not pasting my face on the screen. Besides, most people could care less about trying to figure-out who is producing porn.

I see nothing wrong with a simple business transaction to hire a hooker to fuck on camera. Just like we do everyday when we monger...it is purely a business transaction. The talent/hooker & stud gets paid for fucking on camera. I get paid for doing all of the leg work to organize and direct the talent, doing the leg work to make it something worthwhile to watch so that somebody will buy it.

Sounds like a way for me to combine business with my personal pleasure. I'm gonna monger til the day I die. Mongering isn't cheap. If I can figure-out a way to make money from my mongering exploits...why not? If I create a series of video documentaries showing guys how to monger and where to go, just like we do on this forum with words, and I get paid to do it...why not?

AJ

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Alecjamer said: This is the wrong forum to be a holier-than-thou type...especially one that pretends they are falling in love with hookers...what are the consequences of pretending to fall in love?...the chica ends-up with a broken heart when she discovers you were pretending to love her just to get GFE out of her. That's not very nice.

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AJ, sounds fun. Not sure of the legal or marketing hurdles, but best of luck!

Hello AJ

I say thats a rather awsome idea, btw I am new here just registered and am hoping to sell up here in the Uk and move away soon.

Panama has been a destination that springs to mind just from the number of old folks i know who have semi retired out there.

I was wondering as mongering (or punting as its known here) has been a fond hobbie for the last 6 or so years of mine what would I likely spend if I were to do this 2-3 times a week, consider now I can spend around 800 Pounds (1600 Dollars) a Month with most being 40-60 Pound 30 min sessions and then the odd treat of a high end escort (or what passes for them in my neck of the woods) at around 150 Pounds.
I guess what im saying is if i spent that sort of money a month in Panama what's the best bang for buck i would get?.

I have a few other questions if you dont mind me pm'ing you, if not then just say so.

P.s an idea for a website could be something along the lines of http://realpunting.com/.

The guy who runs that site basically films himself shagging hookers and uploads them for people to buy,its great as he makes money doing his fav passtime and the girls get some free publicity for the services they offer to boot.

Cheers for reading

Rik

as a side note, creating video (worth paying for) takes some talent and a fair amount of planning and time... Sounds much easier than it is!

Smitopher - You are right, I shouldn't have rebutted since I asked for "thoughts".

When I asked for "thoughts", I was hoping I would get some feedback from someone who has dabbled in porn. I thought maybe I would get a cautionary..."hey, I have a friend who tried to make porn and the porn mafia cut his dick-off because he did not ask for permission first." This type of information would be helpful to know.

I am a mongerer just like other mongerers on this forum. Personally, I treat the women I monger very nice. I usually never have any problems because my sessions usually become very much like a date. Also, I don't fuck anybody who doesn't want to fuck me back. And, finally I try to leave them better-off than when I found them...although well fucked. But, what I/we do as a hobby is considered seriously immoral in mainstream society. Therefore, I was a little caught-off guard when a fellow mongerer suggested that if I do porn...I may be looked upon with revulsion. I'm fuzzy on the cast system when it comes to porn and mongering...apparently porn guys rate lower on the moral scales than does the average mongerer.

Fair enough though.

Thanks for your input.

AJ

Don Marco -

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm a bit of a perfectionist...I'm very detail oriented...I'm my toughest critic. As I stated in my first blog, I actually had some pretty good home video comparable to other amateur and even some professional work I've seen.

I'm a fan of Rodney Moore's storyline which is usually the humorous quid pro quo approach. Randy's hallmark is his famous Rodney blast...usually to the face. But, I'm not a cum in the face kind of guy.

I am also a fan of the work Ed Powers & Randy West have done. Their storyline follows the casting couch approach. However, how they differ from Randy Moore is the internal cum shot.

I've got a pretty good imagination and I am able to script ideas pretty well. I'm interested in making videos that follow a playful or humorous storyline similar to what Rodney produces, but combines the realism of everyday fucking via the internal cum shot that Ed Powers and Randy West provide.

I'm curious, in everyday life...who really pulls-out to shoot cum on a woman's face? I've done it just to try it, but honestly...it feels better when I leave it in. I want my viewers to relate to this type of reality fucking.

I also like the idea of introducing fuckable everyday women accented with a trait that makes them memorable, such as big nipples, hairy pussy, large areolas...big tits and itty bitty titties...black girls, white girls, brown girls and Asians...I also want to find women who are lactating to add something you don't always see in porn. Then I want to mix them all together to give the dude wacking-off to my porn...variety of chicas getting hosed from one story to the next.

Like I said, I like quid pro quo stories. The damsel in search of her baby's father in the states...but she has no money to pay the PI...so she fucks him in exchange for his fee.

Another idea I like is where the boyfriend/husband is waiting in the car as his girlfriend/wife goes for a job interview in a hotel room...while she is interviewing it starts to look like she may not get the job...to seal the deal, she fucks the interviewer...while she is getting banged in exchange for a job...through the hotel room window you can see her guy waiting restlessly in his car with no clue what is happening to his honey.

Rodney Moore did one award winning scene where a big tittied novice real estate agent was showing him an apartment...Rodney with camera in tow videoed room to room, slyly zooming his camera in on her ass and tits when she wasn't looking...towards the end of the showing he made it seem that he couldn't decide...should he buy the place or keep looking, hmmm? The novice real estate agent, desperate to make the sale, confessed that if she doesn't seal the deal, she may lose her job...that was all Rodney needed to hear...he fucked her nicely in the bathroom and ending it on the living room carpet, unfortunately for me with a blast to her face.

Obviously, I like twists and turns that will make my porn more enjoyable than the basic fucking with a pull-out money shot.

In my videos (if I make them) you will see a variety of easily duped women with big smiles and freshly fucked pussies plastered with dripping cum.

Who wants to see?

AJ

In the USA society at large, "Mongers" rate lower on the "Moral Scales" than Pornographers. "monger" or "sex tourist" is pretty much the same as "perv" although we here know that is not the case.

The point that I was trying to make that it is easier to simply be a sex tourist. It is easier to keep private. If you are in business, it is not as easy to keep private.

It seemed from your post that involvement in sex tourism and Porno production would be something you would want to keep private, especially from your family. Not doing those things that you would prefer other people not to know about is the simplest way for other people not to know about you doing those things.

I have found it complicated enough to keep my trips private without being in a sex related business.

"I am Sancho" made a very cogent post about being in a sex related business in a post here.

I think that these are considerations that would be good to contemplate while you make your decisions.

BTW, I do not believe in morals, I think ethics are a better way to measure what one does.
In my “pretending to fall in love”, I strive to be ethical. Needlessly causing pain to others is never ethical.

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Medicinaluser -

Welcome to our club.

I suggest you read the Panama On-Line Guides...click on Tree View, then drill down into Panama...look around...you will find them.

There is lots of information about Panama within the guides that will answer 90% of your questions.

The going massage parlor (MP) rate in Panama is $60 (30 Pounds). You pay $20 at the door and negotiate another $40 with the chica in the room. There are other more expensive MPs such as Golden Time and Royal Elegance Center. But Caribbean Center, Hawaii Center, Relax oriental, etc., produce women ranging from a basic 5 to high 7s or 8s who will fuck for $60 complete with massage.

Street Girls (SGs) will fuck for however low you can negotiate them down up to a high of $30 to $40 bucks. But the SG risk is pretty high...if they fuck you over there is no management for you to go to complain. Also, the tourist cops keep a lookout for white gringos approaching the SGs. If they see you near one...they will hassle you and likely shake you down giving you the choice to pay them a fine on the spot or off to jail you go. I don't regularly fuck around with SGs when for a few dollars more I can fuck in a MP where I can complain to management. Also, MP chics are supposed to be routinely medically screened whereas SGs are not.

Unless you have money to burn, I recommend you stay away from the strip clubs. The cover to get in is usually high. The chicas are hot looking (usually) but they will suck all of your loose change and paper money from you before you get to touch one tit. Then if you want to bar fine them, the fee is well over $100 (50 pounds) upwards to $200...I've heard of some chumps paying even more. Therefore, even before you get there, you can imagine how inflation has warped the strip club girl's expectations. Strip clubs are a non-starter for me.

Then there are escort services in Panama. The Panama Yellow Pages directory list a dozen or so. Probably the most notable escort service in Panama is www.elcomplaciente.com I haven't priced them lately, but I think they get $100 to $150 per hour...I'm sure they watch the clock closely. However, they have a good selection and their bodies seem to look pretty good.

I hope you enjoy your trip to Panama.

AJ

As some of you may know, I was in the porn business for a long time. I hung up my spurs in the business in 1994.

Just recently I set up a company as my retirement job (I am eligible to retire in May 2008, at 42) that will be making porn. When my site is up in January, I'll let everyone know the URL. It isn't a porn site, it is a site for the porn company I am starting.

Unfortunately amateur porn is overdone, you need a hook that is different. Latin ladies from Panama, Brazil, etc. are way overdone as well.

For practice, I've shot and edited 2 porns for private individuals although this Saturday I have a shoot for something that I can publish.

I was tired of looking what I could do in Colombia when I retire. So I'll be shooting, editing, and distributing in the US for a few months at a time, then I'll stay in Colombia the rest of the year.

Summer 2008 still seems to be d-day. The first d-day didn't work (a few mishaps).

AJ
you could write a book
its interesting how u tell your story
good family man with a passion
the guilt-
and the regrets
there is so much pron out there its hard to think
that much money could be made from.
but u would have a hell of a time.
but you may be the worker bee and all your cast have the fun and the guilt.
its a nice thought
how you considered the best equipment
the best quality but one that your wife wont be suspicious of.
tf