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Hey, I keep hearing that Love Story has a website, but I can't find it here on on google. Moondog has me all lathered (in a heterosexual way ;)) to go there. Somebody post a link to their site!

You will have a great time at that place. See you there.

Moondog

http://www.danceterialovestory.com.br/

Jesus Christ! I don't know what to do with all the useful information on that site! Content is King! Ugh, someone should outlaw Macromedia Flash...

Thanks for posting the link!

I have been away from the board for awhile and am surprised at the lack of postings in the last six or eight months. Did something happen?

Everybody is out having too much fun.

Lurch:

The tendency is for people to post trip reports (even for topical issues), or post in the chat sections. Hombre sometimes copies relevant parts to the discus topics, but mostly things remain in their original form and people have to search.

Lurch, us Sao Paulo/concrete jungle lovers are in the minority when it comes to Hombres. And we like it that way. Though we try to share our secrets with the rest of you! SP ROCKS:-) sf4dfish

Amen bro.

Sabio is correct. We try to occasionally copy relevant portions to specific threads because our reporters tend more to write comprehensive reports than comment on all the individual topics.

We could always use volunteers that are interested in helping us do some of this. Please write support@clubhombre.com if interested.

LAGuy, Coffeemaker and I visited an apartment called Savanas Club in the Jardin district yesterday morning. The place opened at 10 am and we were there at 11. They had 7 girls working, 5 were doable, 3 very doable. Cost of a session was 60 reals for half hour, 100 reals for an hour. Since I dont know what do to for an hour I took the half hour option. The gods were smiling on me yesterday and my girl happened to be a lactater (spelling??).

Anyway, the facility is super nice. The apartment looks to be recently remodeled. The rooms are clean, and freshly furnished. My girl wanted me to go rearward but I wasnt in a mood for the bad place. I nutted in about 15 minutes and she wanted me to go again. I opted to save myself for later and retired to the lounge to have a beer.

LAguy had repeated with a solid 9 blond unit. He seemed quite happy with her when he came back downstairs. I hated to ruin his day but I had to point out she had a funny looking toenail on her left big toe.

On our way out of the house new girls were arriving. ONe named Monique was a 10 in looks so I plan to go back today. Coffeemaker wants to do a blond unit we saw leaving as we entered. He too is intriged by lacation so plans to do the blond unit and pay the lactater to hose them down with her tits while he sessions.

Anyway--this place is located at Ra Joaquim Eugenio de Lima 1674, casa 1. Jardins. Tele 3884 0574.

After Savanas CLub, Coffeemaker was off to COnnections. LAGuy and I went to Teatro Orion on Rua Aurora, just off Rua Augusta. Teatro Orion is a converted Movie Theater. The seating is very comfortable and they have non-stop strip shows. About 3 pm there were probably 30 girls doing strip shows in rotation and 15 were doable, 5 VERY doable. I did not do a girl but only watched the shows. Cost of a session is R$50 for half hour, R$80 for an hour. THey do not have rooms on premises so you have to go around the corner to a LoveMotel where the rooms are R$25. I will post more specific information tomorrow after I have sampled a girl and the motel. DonGringo, you can go ahead and ridicule me now, or wait till I post more information.

Any feedback on Cafe Cancun?

GcL, thanks for the info.

Tonygalore, where is Cafe Cancun?

Moondog, in SP near Gran Melia WTC Hotel

Is it possible you mean Cafe Ganguin (or something like that?)? That is near the Gran Melia. While I have walked by, I never went inside.

Tony or Laguy,

Is this Cafe a real cafe with working girls hanging around, or is it a club like Foto and the others?

I heard from a hotel bellman it was a "strip club." That is all the info I have. As to the name, I think I am mis-spelling it but the place I am thinking about definitely starts with a G, not a C; for you cultural types I believe it may be named after the famous artist.

Ok, thanks.

If you ever get the chance, walk by ave Paulista, the women are beautiful and don't mind sharing glances with you despite busy schedule.
Actually Museum MASP is pretty good with paintings from famous impressionists and classical period. This last trip restored my faith in SP.

Posting some of my observations about Sao Paulo. I started with the boards info which is correct and been very helpful. I have been here for five days now and I have gone all over but have concentrated on centro as that is where I am having the most fun. If you can speak some portuguese and don't mind "semi-clean" enviroments than you would have fun also. I like the strip clubs the best as you can watch the girls and have had the most fun at the places.

The girls for the most part are very professional in that if you say your not interested they will not hassle you I found this in all establishment tiers.
I think that compared to Rio the girls treat this as a business moreso they have things to do during the day and people to fuck. I am amazed how they turn it on on off if you know what I mean go from 0 to 60 and back to 0 when it is over. So if you like the girlfriend thing Sao Paulo may not be your style. I got the feeling in my 3 trips to Rio that the girls didn't have much going on in their lives that's why they would hang around they always had FA to do.
Every session I have had has been great and they sure do please a couple three have been mind blowing. However when its over its over took a while to get used to it but I'm starting to like it not all that emotional BS you seem to get in Rio sometimes.
There are a couple of other things that I like 1/ The anonymity. The girls are so plentiful they don't seem to know each other you can kiss one good bye walk 1/2 a block and do another one they won't know each other. It seemed to me in Rio they all knew each other and they knew when I was in what therme. I didn't like that bullshit.
Less jealous, you can play with one send her away start with another and then go back to the first one the next day or variations and I never got any BS other than you should be spending that on me baby.
Safety: I might be lucky but I seem safer in this city than Rio for some reason But I have been all over and at all times and not once have I been hassled. I have walked all over exploring and have maybe been asked for money 4 times. I would get that every block in Rio. Maybe because it is the end of winter but it is easier to blend in for a white person. I have somewhat of a tan have a shaved head and blue eyes. Incidently if you have blue eyes they are worth alot of free feels in the strip clubs while the girls look at your eyes has been happening to me all the time. I'm getting asked for directions all the time on the street. I find that quite funny. The latest I have walked farther than a block however is 9 pm but when I'm in the cabs I see people sometimes single walking all over at all times waiting at metro stations and such. 24 hour drug stores are open with some security but not nearly as much as in Rio. It only takes one time and being in the wrong place at the wrong time but I figure that is same everywhere. Only my opinion but the risks I have taken have been worth it.

In one club on R. Aurora I was buying drinks for 4 girls 5R-10R that I picked and over the course of the night take one or two down to a room and while upstairs unlimited lapdances. They had a very professional show that included singing, stripping and sex show. It started at 12 am and ended at 5am I was there from 6 pm - 4 am A room downstairs 30R girl 20R never once got bothered for time. Drinks, food etc. for me and 4 strippers plus 4 sessions - 600R. I have spent that much plenty on a night in North America and went home empty handed or some uninspired sex. I had fun around. These girls were hot the main reason I stayed there in the first place was there this 6' mulatta from Salvador hour glass figure in 6" heels stood about 4" above me. Nasty too. another 40D titties. During the night they got up and did a stripshow. These girls would actually dance and some quite well and erotic. This is how they sell their wears.
Some girls would come in throughout the night strip then come out in the club wait for about a 1/2 hour if no takers they would leave. That is another thing there was me and 4 or 5 guys that sessioned in the rooms with any of the girls there was an average of 20 girls 8 very attractive between 10pm and 3 am about the 25 guys. Same kind of guys that are in American strip clubs on a Sat. night. couple of birthday parties and bachelor parties.

Negotiating: I have chalked some of my more expensive sessions to learning which has to be done. One is the drink situation some places these can be as high as 30R the girls get a small cut on this money. I prefer the establishments that give you the card that keep track of what has been ordered. That way you can watch what is happening. Always ask what is the price of this drink before okaying the purchase. I also clear the cards randomly. When I do this I have kept my suprises to a minimum. When I did not ask the price of the drinks I made one of the most expensive mistakes ever made I am embarrassed to admit.
A big supply of girls and a small amount of paying customers equals negotiating power in your favor these girls get one or two customers per day. This is from their mouths. One morena who had very nice breasts and hourglass figure the bunda good dancer speaks fairly good english she said after paying the bar. She makes on average 3000R a month.She has worked in all the strip clubs down in centro and is on a couple of the internet sites as a free-lancer. She said that depending on how bad she needs the money is how hard she'll work the customers. I gave her 150R for 1.5 hours which was her starting price. However I have seen her once more she stayed over all-night for 200 and Friday she says we will go out on a date and she will stay over night no charge. So dollar cost averaging it is working out great. I asked if I could have negotiated she said yes and laughed. She also said s Wednesday night going to try something new. If it is sex you want Sao Paulo is the place to be. Hands down.

Interesting observations. Any chance you could give more specific information about the locations and/or names of the strip clubs you visited? As you probably noticed from my reports, I have gone to the Teatro Orion a few times, but the two other strip clubs I randomly went into on Ipiranga, a couple of blocks of Aurora, were pretty awful. I would like to check out some of the places you have found worthwhile.

My blonde gringo friends get asked directions all the time walking around in Brazil. 99 out of 100 times when this happens, it's just the natives wanting to hear the gringo accents for their entertainment.

Every time I walk around Sao Paulo with a blonde Gaucho (Southern Brazilian) friend of mine, he would get so pissed every time someone asks him for directions. He knows exactly why they're asking him, so he would give them directions to go to hell and tell them to scram! Pretty funny.

Yes I have used your information with great gusto. Thank you muchly. The one with the morena was at Teatro Orion I went there to pass the time before I went to Club Aurora on Monday which was the one I had the most fun. I'm sorry that I can't remember the other two near there but they are just around the corner from Club Aurora. To get to this club you go in the same direction that the girls take you to the love hotel and stay on the same side of the street as Teatro Orion it is another 2 blocks just before the next main street. On this main street there are two more clubs identical marketing. These places are a step below Teatro Orion in the girl quality. But as far as party girls I have the most fun with these girls. They let me do anything I wanted but it was as I was doing it they were having fun with it to always grabbing my dick so they could get another 20. Some of these girls were hot and as I was watching them dance my mouth would be wide open and one of the girls I was sitting with would close my mouth and laugh. Then shove her tittie in my face and go look at these instead. On thing I did was buy 3R cigs and all the girls in the bar if they wanted a cig would come over ask for one and then offer a feel. I should mention if someone has issues with drugs there were some of this action going on in this back room on the main floor or in the rooms in the basement. I didn't partake but it was well out in the open and it seemed to be okay with the management.It was quite clear that alot of the dancers would be doing blow. Sat night is a special night there and the quality is better than when I have gone there Mon and Tues although there is one or two that are fine. But there are some woofers

Back to Teatro Orion You know that morena was the second girl on the stage when I arrived around 3 pm 2 other girls danced before she came out into the theater and jumped in one guys lap didn't take into mine and I did. But there were a few others that I probably would of went for but for service I'm glad I picked her. Now I'm going out sluting in the other clubs and she comes over after work she gets off at 11:00 pm. Couple more things she told me the girls have to be there before 2:00pm or they can't work that day. The drink situation is if you want her to give you a lapdance in the back. Then you pay for a drink. but I don't know if you have to pay for the drink if you just order takeout. Anyway her method is get the drink over with and over to the hotel as she makes the most money that way. She says some new girls spend too much time with the guys buying drinks and then they don't have enough money to take them to the hotel and they only make 10% on the drinks ie 2.5R per drink 44R for champange is the what the Teatro wants the girls to get the guys to order. The other club one night was across from Kilt and down abit if you driving by car there are 4 strip clubs on that street. In there was only 3 guys and 20 girls 10 were very doable i took a little spunky 22 year old out for 200R for 4 hours her friend came and picked her up when the club closed. Everyone at this one tried to get me to tip them 30R drinks here. I would have liked to stayed longer and talk to more girls.
The disaster was Club Dakar which is about a couple of blocks from the Hilton. It would be okay if you understood the drink price which is 30R. This was my first club I went too and I thought I'm in Brazil what could a drink cost 3 maybe 5 R and that is how I was keeping track that drinks turned out to be 30R. That was 100R per girl and 30R for the room for an hour. The energy sports drinks are another big favorite and are big dollars everywhere. The key to keeping your costs down is the drinks.

That 6' mulatta I gave her an economics lesson and convinced her that 50R for her at my hotel was better for her. But until she warmed up to me there was no way she would come to my hotel In fact that is why I stayed there so long I wanted her to come back with me she kept putting me off but telling me to enjoy myself there which I did.

any fellow board members going to be in SP the first week of Mar (03-06)???? Going for first time & would enjoy meeting up & setting a short course for decadant behavior, mongering, festas, etc.

First, I would like to congratulate the SP posters for making a greater number of SP posts in the last 24 hours than the Rio posters. Hopefully, this will be a continuing trend, and Rio will deservedly be buried as a mongering location, once and for all, thereby saving valuable bandwidth on this site.

Oblio: Unfortunately, I will not be in mongering mode March 3 to 6 and therefore will be unable to join you. SP is a great place to monger though although don't plan on much beach time.

laguy: maybe next time....will be going back in Jul...even sooner if my schedule opens up. thank you for your posts and guides

I found walking the streets of Sao Paulo safer than the streets of Rio. I say this not having walked around the Rua Augusta area.

The flavelas in Sao Paulo are on the outer edges of city. It is like most European cities, where the working class and poor live on the outer edges of the city or in teh suburbs.

By contrast, many flavelas in Rio are situated next to, if not above, middle class and upper class neighborhoods. Conequently, you will see all classes walking the streets of Rio. In Sao Paulo, you don't see this class mixing on the streets of an average neighborhood.

Oblio,

I'll miss you by a month. Along the same lines, any travelers planning on being in SP Thursday-Sunday (Feb 3-7th)

I'll be in SP this week - from Wednesday morning through Saturday morning. Let's get together and take SP by storm.

Play274: you are on my friend...with your permission, can I touch base with you and give you my info???... and lets discuss where and how to meet up, etc.

Perhaps my earlier congratulations to the Sao Paulo posters for exceeding the posting rate of the Rio posters were unwarranted. It has since glaringly come to my attention that posting rate per se is no indication of merit. We have now been overtaken by some posters in the Don't Know Better So I Monger in Mexico forum, a real group of loonies as evidenced by their recent exceedingly long and tedious thread, a thread that raises the age-old question "Do retards know they are retards?" I never could have imagined in my wildest dreams it would come to this but I now cherish the days when Masterbates occupied his time solely by seeking out and posting pictures of the most hideous looking women on this planet.

Nonetheless, despite this new evidence of a lack of correlation between number of posts and merit, and indeed the possibility of a negative correlation in light of what we are now seeing, I still encourage those of you who have information about Sao Paulo to weather the storm and keep on posting.

In the US, this was the best map I could find to buy of Sao Paulo. It covers the central districts extremely well, but it doesn't cover the outer districts at all. For example, Congonhas Airport and Cafe Millenium are on the edge of the map, Bomboa is well within it, Tivoly is just off it and Clinica Antares is also just off it.

What time do taxis in Sao Paulo go from rate 1 to 2? Thanks.

8 p.m. Monday through Saturday. Goes back to 1 around 6 a.m. All day Sunday and holidays its at 2.

For a better map while in Sao Paulo, check out my LAguy's Sao Paulo Ins and Outs; I mention one map (can't remember its name off the top of my head) that has proven invaluable, and can be purchased at some of the better stores, including FNAC (although last time I was in their store on Avenida Paulista, it looked like it might have been sold out; hopefully they have it again)

Pick up the monthly hotel mag, it has decent maps. If going to an apartment to visit a garota, inside the lobby they have good maps. If you need very detailed maps, then yellow pages have the best maps. You can also get free maps at the kiosk for tourists on Paulista and girl behind counter will probably speak some English.

I will be going to one of laguy's reccommended (cant recall the name on jau street) will report back. Laguy, Killer frickin notes you've added to this site. Thanks man.

Athos: I don't disagree the monthly hotel mag has some decent maps, as do the kiosks, but if you want a map that pretty well extends throughout Sao Paulo, including beyond what is covered by the maps you refer to, and also shows nearly all the metro stops relative to the streets, the map I referred to in my guide is much better. For everyone's edification, here is a cut and paste from my Sao Paulo Ins and Outs Guide:

Sao Paulo is a huge place, and unless you are going to rely on taxis to go only to the most popular locations (which the taxi drivers will know) a good map is invaluable. One of the problems though is most of the maps, particularly but not limited to the freebies, will only focus on portions of the city, and often without including the names of all the side streets. In addition to a freebie map, or one that focuses on the city center, I recommend that once you are in Sao Paulo you purchase a map put out by Geomapas entitled Nova Sao Paulo (there are other Sao Paulo maps put out by this company, such as one for the entire state; make sure the one you purchase says Nova Sao Paulo). You will be able to find just about everything you need on this large, detailed map. It is available at some of the finer bookstores and/or superstores, and possibly at some newsstands.

In addition, another useful (and free) resource is a throwaway magazine available at many hotels called "Magazine: Hotel and Travel Guide." It includes maps of many of the areas in Sao Paulo, as well as a lot of advertisements for places of interest, including some of the mongering places mentioned in this report. Note that while the last half of the magazine deals exclusively with mongering places, occasionally, a hotel will razor blade this section out but this is rare. If this should happen to you though, ask for a complete copy. Be aware though that some of the hotels are more likely to give you "Sao Paulo this month", which includes some maps but significantly less mongering information than "Magazine."

Also, if you are trying to locate particular addresses, the following websites are very good:

http://mapas.terra.com.br/

http://www.maporama.com/share/

You may want to put your pop-up blocker on first before using these though; I believe one of them triggers a few too many pop-ups (don't remember which).

For my own peace of mind, I need a very detailed map before going somewhere. The one that I mentioned fit the bill for the areas it covered and was the best I could find in the USA. In fact, it did such a good job that I didn't feel a need to look for a better map while in Sao Paulo, but now that you have mentioned the Nova Sao Paulo map, I'll look for it next time. Thanks.

Soccer,
I got a map from Borders books, had to order it, called Insight Flexi-map for Sao Paulo.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0841621292/qid=1108452759/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-3450538-3012052?v=glance&s=books

It sounds similar to yours but it might be offset a bit and scaled differently. The nice thing is that its the laminated foldling plastic style. I have put little stick on dots for the hot spots i plan to visit.

I don't understand one comment of yours. You say "For example, Congonhas Airport and Cafe Millenium are on the edge of the map". On my map Millenium is well within it, but Congonhas is way off of it. One of us may have mapped Millenium imprecisely. My map does not extend as far south or west as yours. Bomboa is just off map, and the bottom of the map is the bottom of Ibirapuera park.

Is your map laminated?

I have the Insight Fleximap of Sao Paulo also, but I found it didn't cover enough of Sao Paulo. However, the Insight map does cover a bit more of Sao Paulo towards the bottom of the map, and you caught me in an error in that Congonhas Airport can't be and isn't in the map I mentioned. I recall seeing Congonhas Airport on a map (one of the internet maps) and got the maps confused. Thanks for the correction.

According to my readings of the maps, Cafe Millenium is not near Ibirapuera Park. On the Fleximap look for the K10 square. Rua Coronel Diogo (K9-10) is just left of Parque da Independenica. It should also be just left of the intersection of Rua Coronel Diogo and Rua Rio Ipiranga (which becomes Avenida Ricardo Jafet) on the map. Compare this with the map at the Cafe Milleunium website.

We are in agreement. It is in the K9-K10 slot, near Independencia.

I did not mean to imply that it was near Ibarapuera, I only stated that the insight map only goes as far south as Ibarapuera. That comment was unrelated to the Millenium comment. It was you comment about Millenium and Congonhas that I was confused by. And now we are clear.

The search for "honey eyes". I have been looking all over the reports and unfortunately can not find it. One of you mentioned a high end place in Sao Paulo where college girls and many blondes show. The comment that got me excited was girls with "honey eyes". I am sucker for them. If anyone can remember the place i would appreciate it. - LB

Luckybiegs,

Could the place you are looking for be Cafe Photo? W used to be the premier place but it has gone through some ownership and location changes and I´m not even sure if the latest version is still up and running.

Laguy.. It was indeed W.. It was in Athos guide..

I spent a couple nights at love story.. I was with my favorita and a few of her friends (some were not program girls).. Was actually interesting to see how aggressive other guys were with the girls i was with especially the non pro's. I did see about 4 or 5 hot looking girls in the place but it was clear that my crew of women were the most sought after each night. From my standpoint it appeared that all women there are program girls - i was told differently.

This Just In...

(from Reuters)
Brothel ads too racy for Brazilian GP
Thursday, 22 September , 2005, 21:03

Sao Paulo: Two high-class brothels hoping to attract racers and pit crews in Sunday's Brazilian Grand Prix were shut down after they posted sexually explicit advertisements on 30 billboards around South America's largest city.

Sao Paulo Mayor Jose Serra demanded the billboards be covered with blank white sheets and his code enforcement officers sealed doorways to the brothels, Romanza and Cafe Millenium, with concrete blocks.

The billboards showed a photo made to look like a scantily clad woman was performing fellatio on a man in a racing uniform. Captions on the advertisements said in both Portuguese and English: "Do you know what happens after the (winners') podium?."

Another advertisement in Sao Paulo targeting race car drivers reads "emotion in every curve" alongside a semi-nude woman, the newspaper Folha de Sao Paulo reported.

Every year, brothel owners put up dozens of billboards targeting rich customers who visit Sao Paulo for the Formula One race.

But since taking office in January, the tough-talking Serra has tried to clean up the sleazy side of Sao Paulo, including shutting down cheap downtown hotels frequented by crack addicts.

Prostitution in Brazil is legal, but pimping is not. To avoid hassles from police, many brothel owners say they run "relaxation clubs for men" and that sexual services are not provided in exchange for money.

I read on another board that Bomboa was also closed. Does anyone know the current status of Bomboa, Millenium, etc? Thanks in advance for the info, I travel to SP next week!

They are all back open, as of two weeks ago.
CG

anyone ever heard of this lady in sao paulo??

http://www.mistress-sabina.com/gallery.shtml

Bella???

Indy,
Do some research bro...
Bella is heavily reviewed on brasilian boards so she will provide most skills required. She is in her 30´s.

Athos:

I am new to this whole mongering business and i dont' know anything about brasilian boards. Could you give me some pointers or direction???

So, I guess being in your 30's puts you a little further downt he list or hot picks??? LOL

thanks

I'll be in Sao Paulo the week before Carnaval. What are the top 5 high end clubs? Places I am most likely to find the best 10's with the lowest mileage and sans the attitude that comes with these high end garotas sometimes? Did W ever resurface for sure? Is it as good as before or are there better places? Rank your top 5 in this category.

I'll be in Sao Paulo the week before Carnaval. What are the top 5 high end clubs? Places I am most likely to find the best 10's with the lowest mileage and sans the attitude.

DITTO! I will arrive on Monday the 6th, looking for some recent info/intel on Sao Paulo! I have a "regular" chica that I am dating but want to treat my buddy to some extra activites!

MANY THANKS in advance

W is now called W.E. - it is located at Rua Peixoto Gomide 263 - Consolacao.

GK

Can anybody Identify what it says on this shirt? It says "________ Girls" Is this a club shirt showing where she works or does it signify something else...Thanks

Just wanted to update this thread as it's dying a slow death.

I met Patricia Kimberly today. Many people ask for recommendations on girls that speak English. Patricia speaks very well and has a great personality to boot.

You can find her here:

hxxp://www.chantily.com.br/saopaulo/garotas/loiras/patriciakimberly.htm

Her reviews on gpgui.net are excellent and she provides excellent services for 300 reals + 20 for taxi. All holes are open for business and she stays for 2 hours. She will be the first call I make upon my next visit.

Happy riding.

the new Faria Lima metro stn is open (m-f 8a-3p currently). It is located near the corner of Cardeal Arcoverde, Teodoro Sampaio, Brig. Faria Lima in Pinheiros. it's the 1st completed of 10(?) stns on the work-in-progress new Yellow line 4. from inside the Consolacao stn you walk thru a long corridor to the new Paulista stn to ride the metro to Faria Lima. when finished the Yellow line will run to centro.

Particularly given taxi fares have gone through the roof in Sao Paulo over the course of the last five years or so (and also because the metro is not affected by Sao Paulo's traffic jams), this is good news. However, assuming the hours 8am to 3 pm are not a typo (3pm?) it seems progress on this infrastructure project comes under the category of "only in Brasil."

Now that I think of it, I believe "line 4" was one of the topics in the recent Reuters article (posted in another thread on this site) showing how long infrastructure projects take in Brasil and questioning whether they will be ready for the Olympics in 2016.

yes 3pm is ridiculous. since there are currently only 2 stns (faria lima & paulista-consolacao) online on line 4, operating hrs are limited. once more stns are built & go online operating hrs will be extended (let's hope).

I would guess that it must have something to do with not interfering with the construction of the rest of the line. Also, I think they had some major accidents during construction already that included some deaths (just going from memory).

Mitchc,

Yes, the construction of this line has been a total clusterfuck in the grandest Brazilian tradition. Huge overruns, corruption, bankruptcies, accidents, charges of substandard construction--this project has it all.

But 3p? WTF! Are workers supposed to take the metro to work and then walk home?

I saw a bunch of girls working the street near metro station Tiete. When I came into bus station Tiete from Curitiba and notice a lot of girls standing on the street near the metro station.