What would you consider to be a fair budget for 7 days in Rio? Has to be enough for food & lodging, termas, escort and Help garotas and whatever else you might have in mind..

As a tourist so I'd say you will be spending between $200 and $350 but I'd rather budget for $300 while in Rio as you may meet 2 9's on the same day.

Room or apt on a weekly rate basis - $50-$100/day
Meals for yourself - $20-30/day
Refreshments - beach stuff - $20/day
One termas/day (non-Centaurus, one cabin, one girl) - $60-75/day
One beach girl - $40/day
One Help takout - $80/day

Total $270-325/day

and if you do it for more than 4-7 days in a row, you will hit the wall and need to include medical/recuperation expenses....

So....Athos and I agree.....

I'm copying from one of my posts from last year(lazy me)
This was mine:
Hotel- approx. $50usd (suggestion The Debret)
Food- approx. $20usd
Drinking- approx. $15usd
Chica(s)- approx. $60usd (per session) x 2= $120
Misc- $30usd
Roughly(very roughly) $235 per day

Ladies can be had for a LOT lower but it gives you an idea. This type of budget will guarantee you a very good time!!!

You may hit the wall sometime during your trip. You may be able to deduct a day's girl's expenses from that day.

$4,944....quicken tells me..ouch..but ya only live once...

2000.00 US dollars for 6 days the rate then is 1USD to 1.8 real
my hotel is cheap 35 USD a day the rest go to termas and yes I eat and drink IN THERE....
would repeat without hesitation
viva Brazil

Layne87, if you want to spend that kind of money I'd recommend you make a trip to Prague or Budapest. European beauties for the same price as a carioca with bodies and faces and manners to die for.Find out more on http://www.evemodels.com and www.1stliaison.com
( not sure about the second address).
This is just a suggestion. But if you like the Brazilian bundas like I do, stick to Brazil.

Rakshas- Yes several of those girls were to die for.. WOW..but same price? It stated $600-$1000/day....With air/hotel and 11 days..really ouch..would like to know more if you can enlighten me.

layne@preferred.com

I've done Prague and Rio. Prague has great eye candy, but the overall service provided there is nothing compared (not even close) to the passion and effort you receive in Rio. Prague is slightly cheaper, but not by much, and you get so much more bang (no pun intended) for the same buck in Rio.

Layne87,
The prices on the website are for those who have big expense accounts or those who will not negotiate.I had Victoria for $300 per night and Marianne for $400 per night. The fees in question are for Glamour (read porn) photography. I had a great time. The only problem is the girls usually like to travel.
Wilmaflint, I agree the passion is not the same but the quality is better and the effort depends on the transaction. Garotas in Rio are fun and sure the bang is cheaper but none of these girls will make you look smart at a business lunch.The Budapest girls are really smart and are never out of place.
Personally I prefer Rio because I go there to have fun and live out all my fantasies ( for cheap) but I really love those Buda girls.

Rakshas: Russian/Ukrainian women also make a good comparison with the women in Rio. They can be very beautiful (on average, even more beautiful, and they would also make you look good at a power lunch), and they provide you with seemingly tireless effort with passion, though they are lot less vulnerable (There's a certain calculating and detached quality somewhere beneath all that beauty and passion in Russian women.) than Rio women. However, most of the Russian women in Prague and Western Europe have already been corrupted by Westernized service standards.

I just wanted to jump in on this. I was in Rio for New Years this year and I only spent $500 US for 10 days. By that I mean I got 1 0r 2 girls a day (including termas and help). I got a great exchange rate (500==R2000). We found a great local contact (a doctor) who really took care of us. We also made friends with the owner of one of the local Termas and he brought women to our apartment for free. We could not believe this.
Also, there is a bar in Ipanema called Shenanigans (next to the hippie fair). If you go there any night after say 10pm there are plenty of local girls looking for the foreigner. We went there several nights and did really well. These girls are free and are not working girls. We had a great time with them. Just wanted to let you all know.

500US/2000R? The exchange rate was no where near 4/1 during New Years, how did you get this rate? If you only spent 2000R in 10 days, you need to write a detailed report on how you did it. I would memorize it for my trip in 3 weeks, I usually average about 600- 900R a day.

I'm only good for one garota per day. My average daily expense including hotel, terma, HELP, clothing, food, taxis and a few souvenirs is approx $200 USD.

As I did in Cuba, I am preparing a budget, and thanks to the tragic loss of the dollar against the Real, it's looking a bit high.

Since I'm only going to be there five days, I'm anticipating squeezing in maximum possible activity during those days.

Room, Drebet, ocean view R257
Two Terma Garotas @ R200 ea = R400
One overnight @ R250 = R250
Meals, includes assumption I'd probably wind up feeding a Garota or two - R200
Ground transporation (taxis) - R60
Total: R1167

This could be anywhere from $389 (3R/dollar) to $466 (2.5R/dollar) a day.

I was thinking of spending one day checking out Villa Mimosa, which I'm going to assume would run way under $100 even if I fucked myself to exhaustion. This would also help bring my budget down to something sane.

I would prefer sluttish enthusiasm to absolute beauty, although of course the ideal is both :-).

I'm hoping that some kind soul will tell me something like "You're nuts, meals are way cheaper, or you can get beach garotas way cheaper, or whatever".

Would a tour guide/interpreter lower these costs (while of course adding her/his own fees)? It would probably be a good idea for me to hire someone, especially since my language skills are pretty dismal, but I'm wondering if the budget could take it. I see a lot of posts recommending people but little to nothing about fees.

(I'm thinking about Sandman's cute interpreter, but I don't know how good she would be about identifying the best garotas).

Thoughts?

Many thanks.

D

meal budget way too high and do not worry about feeding the garotas especially if you do not speak the language. taxis high unless hitting central daily. how many day in a row can you do 3 girls? still can find apts in $50 us range or less rather than debret. bottom line is drop in exchange rate sucks but corners can be cut if you are on a budget. a guide such as don will cost you a little but will save you time and money in the long run. do not even think about VM without a guide or some veterans.

Without pinching pennies, eating good, drinking good and three girls a day, I think that your estimates are pretty much right on. My take on the guides is that they will probably not save you all that much money, but think even after paying them you might spend a little less. Where they, and I am particularly am thinking of Don @ RioTrips will save you the most is your time.
You immediately hit the ground running and unless you wear yourself out, you don't stop until you leave. I don't know about what or how you would be expected to pay, but I do know that I wish I would have had this option. On a 5 day
trip, after spending all the money on airfare, visas, hotels, etc. that time is very valuable.
I haven't used a guide, but it seems like the guys that do find it really worthwhile for the first day or two until they feel comfortable and then continue to use after that because of the entertainment value-at least that is what I hear from Don's customers.

As far as Sandman's interpreter, I am planning on using her when I go back in August, but not as an interpreter. She hits my hot button.

Costaricardo, the dual function hits my hot button. I've always wanted an accomodating hot secretary and she sounds like a good way to indulge that fantasy :-).

I'm afraid I may have burned my bridges with Don without meaning to. I sent him a message asking if he might be willing to help me do a porno film (you might have noticed some other posts I've made on that subject), and he turned me down with a distinct chill. I wouldn't have asked the question if I'd known it would be offensive :-(.

(The porn film idea, at least officially, turned out to be way too expensive. Pity :-( ).

D

While I can't blame Don for not wanting to mess with the porno stuff-not really his area and maybe too risky in some way for him to be involved in, and not really knowing what you were asking him to do, at least what I know of the man is that I don't think he would hold a grudge for something petty. I wouldn't kiss his ass to get back in his good graces, but it wouldn't hurt you to recontact him with a different agenda in mind. I lie, I might kiss his ass if one of the girls with him was all that and I just had to have her.LOL

Davidd, I'm looking at my credit card receipts right now for the restaurants that I ate at. If you stay at the Debret they have a free breakfast buffet that is open until 10AM. The food is good and varied enough to keep you going until midafternoon.

I ate most of my lunches at the buffets where you pay by the kilo. A large plate that includes either sushi or BBQ meat, a drink, and two desserts was costing me around 15 reals. The buffets are everywhere and the price will vary depending on the size and quality of their offerings.

Also everywhere are the sandwich and juice places. A large fresh juice and a mediocre sandwich will run around 10 reals or so.

The restaurant next to Help actually serves very good food inside. Entrees run about 15-20 reals and up. Fresh fish or chicken is at the low end and shrimp is around 40 reals. If you get the bread and vegies plate with your meal it is 5 reals. Prices at the Alcazar are similar but I didn't think their food was as good.

Concerning the amount you have for the termas, add another 100 per woman if you go for a suite. It's worth it.

My room at the Debret was on the 10th floor facing the ocean. They call it a Lujo which is really stretching the name. It cost 192 a night through BlameitonRio.

Taxis to Solarium or 4x4 from Copacabana will run about 12-15, give or take depending on the amount of traffic. The ride back was always cheaper because of the routing. I paid 55 from the airport using the inside booths and 28 to return using just a regular yellow taxi which is identical.

You didn't mention which class you are traveling in. United has a nice lounge upstairs in Sao Palo and another in Miami and Chicago which are both connect points to Brazil. Good eats, plenty of booze, and a comfortable place to rest while waiting for a connection.

You guys actually eat????? Hell it is usually 2 days in before I remember I better eat something so I don't drop dead. . .lol

I am trying to get better and remember to eat earlier.

If you go to quatro X quatro (a terma downtown that I really like) the price per girl goes down relative to other termas. I believe it is R$150 per hour, and if your first session occurs before 5 p.m., the entrance fee (of R$20) is waived. It is possible the 150 is per 40 minutes, but my best memory says it is for the hour.
You can also take the metro to within a few blocks of quatro, this costs about R$1.8, although if you come back at night a taxi is the way to go.
I never used a guide, and can't see where it will save you money unless you are going to be doing alot of negotiating with freelancers and/or agencies. The terma prices are fixed, and generally Vila Mimosa prices tend to be, although the occassional girl will try to up the price for foreigners. However, the most you will ever pay there even with a blatant rip-off and no negotiation would be around R$50 (regular prices are around R$25 including the room and you should have no trouble getting this price).
Another way to keep the budget down is to try a couple of lower-end massage parlors. There is a separate active thread where there is a discussion of a few such options. If I find my notes from my last trip, I will try to add to the info there.
While this is not meant as a general statement about everyone, there are quite a few hustlers in Rio, and this extends to some of the guides. If you hire a guide, be sure he comes with a recommendation from a disinterested person, i.e., not a cohort.

Please help me cut to the chase - I'm rolling in to Rio with free airfare and free hotel. I'm budgeting $2,000 for five nights/six days and that will be for transportation, meals, drink and pussy. Should that do the trick?

Catocony: Unless you manage to get robbed, or badly badly taken advantage of, $2,000 is more than enough; no, much more than enough. For example, you can eat REAL well for around $25 per day; myself, I doubt I spent more than $15 per day for food during my recent 10-day trip, and this did not involve skimping (I'm not a big eater though).

Cool, so at $350 per day, food drinks and cab rides will take up only $50 or so, leaving $300 for pussy. sounds good to me.

$300 per day will buy a lot of girls in Rio. That should cover 4 to 5 a day.

Catocony, with 300 USD per day hobby allowance you could budget yourself a visit to two termas a day at 100 USD each, and with the remaining hundred spend it on something nice, that you might find at Help? But be patient, for that amount you can get quality tail.

And since you have spent the afternoon at some T or T's, should you not find any thing nice? Go back to the hotel and get some rest. Save it for the T. sf4dfish

Catotony
Make sure to eat at nice restaurants with such a budget. Best pussy is at termas in Rio, fixed price. Every terma garota goes for 150 to 200R for outdate. You may want to try several duplas to spend all your money, 3 girls at same time at least once for the heck of it, 3 anally inclined would be awesome. Treat your honeys to love motel, heck you might be able to spend all your cash.

Davidd, there is no way Don is mad at you, I suspect you misinterpreted his response. He just isnt into porn, or photo taking. Not that he doesnt mind helping guys that want to take their cameras into termas, but he has been embarrassed a few times by guys at restaurants passing around photos of girls spread eagle. Don has the disadvantage of understanding the comments of the other patrons sitting nearby.

NYL...You and I just have to remind each other to eat. As mentioned several times in my NYE report, I just absolutely forgot to eat wayyyyy too many times.

Just wish I could discover what it is that keeps distracting me....he he!

Cat---you are going to have a ball on $300 per day.....but then again, you will probably hit the wall after 3-4 days....


Sandman

I'm leaving for Rio on June 20th to 27th thats 7 days and 5 nights I'm staying at the Augustos Copacabana Hotel do anyone know anything about this Hotel my transfer from the airport and back is taken care of and also my breakfast I'm taking 1,500 USD with me and how much of it should I exchange for reals and is that enough for a good time there its my first trip to Rio. Help me out fellas.

If the hotel charge is not included in your 1,500, you should have nothing to worry about. You can try changing 1K once you arrive, or better yet, leave the money in your bank account and use your ATM card.

leave the cash and use the atm. you'll save about 15% with the atm exchange rate compared to the cash exchanges. use the atm at blockbuster video in copacabana on rua nos senora, near rua siguera campos.

Actually, 15% may be an exaggeration. Last trip I got 2.97 at the ATM and 2.95 at the cambio. But during the previous trip the difference was greater (3.76 v. 3. 50).

well I think mitchc was referring to losing something on his last trip that cost him an extra 15%...he was so underground I did not see him for 4 days straight...

Price of the real is getting higher. Bring more money. CP

Can anyone give a somewhat comprehensive update on budgeting for 06..thinking about oct of this year and was trying to figure something out...It seems to me that everyone figured everything out a few years ago and this newbie is just trying to catch up.

add at least 50% to the old figures , for example if you didnt go crazy with drinks in the termas say spring of 04 ,when I first went you could bang 2 girls get drunk and get out the door for about 120 dollars now 2 girls and a few beers will set you back at least 220 dollars, id say the days of nice apartments for 50 a nite are gone also maybe unless you want a studio on miguel lemos but those are prolly more too now, food is still cheap, unlike 3 years ago may not be a bad deal if you pay 100 dollars for all nite with a nice help girl.

Yeah, was looking at the escorts and was wondering if people use those more to budget as well, since they are only 100R plus cab fare....Seems like a really good deal in relation to the termas...

Termas are a social gathering, so it's not just a quick bombing run to fuck a girl. You have the bar, relax rooms, etc.

Cat is exactly right; Termas arent worth the money to me just to bang. I would only go to hang out and drink with my friends.

Just an FYI, I've been to L (monday & wednesday) and S(thursday & Saturday) twice each this past week. 1 hr suites all 4 times, L was pretty close to 1 hr both times, maybe a few minutes over. S was 2hr on Thursday and 90min on Saturday before the phone call. The prices are the same at both = 340r for the 1hr suite. IMHO, 2 hrs in a suite with a hottub and a Terma girl for 340r is as good of a deal as you'll find in Copa.