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ClubHombre.com: South America: Brazil: Advice/Questions/Commentary: Lesbians and Bisexuals
By Flyguy on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 07:29 am:  Edit

Hombres,
I have to get this story off my chest.(Long story, but worth it)
I wanted to get a taste of RIO B4 I left Miami. So, I decided to visit all the Brazilian night clubs I could find on South Beach (Miami)...my first experience was with a real cute girl non-pro who danced her ass off..we saw each other for a couple of weeks and I could not wait until I would have my hands grasping her tight little ass doggie style. I imagined the sex would be like everything I have read about here on the hombre site except that it would be back home in the US in my apt. Days went by, I took her out many times to Brazilian restaurants (expensive at that). Her English was very poor, and it was a challenge to say a lot of things..I ran to Barnes & Noble and quickly opened a Portuguese language book to try to put sentences together. I would hope that my reward would soon come. BTW, Brazilian women,I notice, LOVE to be taken out..wether its dancing or dinner..I could recommend many places if any of you are ever in Miami, anyway by our 8th date I have a rule with non-pros...NO SEX or at least a BBBJ: MO MORE! I clearly had spent close to 700USD in taking her out to dinner, drinks, lunches, the beach, dancing at nightclubs heck even little shopping sprees at the mall for her favorite CD's...I could not believe that she was nothing like I have read about Brazilian women...yes she was cute, but she gets mad when I merely try to grab her ass! Can you believe that? Oh sure, you can spend my money but I can't grab your ass 8 dates later?...I was really dissapointed..as I was not about to reach the 1,000USD mark and not get any action from her..geez..I could of just as easily taken that money off to Buenos Aires or Cartagena and had the time of life...

Now the good news: Her roommate!

Yes, troughout all this time I use to pick her up, her roomate who was INCREDIBLY HOT, 8 months in the US from Brazil was cheking me out. I wish I would of just targeted her to begin with. She had her way of letting me know that she wanted me...a tight ass, golden tan, long silky wavy black hair, nice juicy watermelon tits..you could clearly see her hard nipples everytime she put on her kinky t-shirts I think were orginally made to fit a 5 year old, but she loved the attention she got walking down the beach or "strip" as it is better known. Did I mention a tight ass? I guess that is the Brazilian girl trademark..nice tight ass with a six-pack for a stomach, so the hell with Girl 1 I went for her call...she dressed so sexy everytime she would answer the door..sometimes accidentally walk out of her room in panties knowing that I was sitting there while her friend was in the kitchen.

I knew she worked as a bartender at a local bar, so I decided to surprise her one day: alone. I could not believe how happy she was to see me..like If we known each other for years. Luckily her shift was ending in about an hour and she insisted that I stay to have a drink with her..after I told her that I was not really feeling her roommate/friend it was like telling her she just won the lotto..a smile from ear to ear lit the room. Did I mention this girl was incredibly HOT!!...the Body of Penelope Cruz with the face of Ashley Judd. Anyway the night progresses and within the hour we are french kissing..I have not spent one red cent on this girl and here she is ready to tear my clothes off! and dipping her sweet toungue in strawberry juice before putting it in mine THERE IS A GOD!!!

After we left the the bar, she said "my roomate is home, lets just go to your place and have some wine and watch a movie"...I drop the top from my Porsche and she literally went wild..."I never ever been in a Porsche before" she said, her English was much better than her roommate..she wanted to get naked right there...so who am I to stop her ~grin
When we pull up my driveway and I get ouf of my car, what do you know...she grabs my ass! I knew that I was in for a good time very soon...

You know I was expecting good sex, but it was GREAT SEX! The best part was that she was the dominating strong type. I almost felt raped...she insisted on Anal sex and wanted it really bad..I got the jelly out and beagn to slowly open her sweet ass...and slowly beging thrusting the head of my johnson in her..at first she screamed, but then stated "give it to me, make me feel how strong of a man you are" I proceeded and her screams of pleasure and pain were music to my ears..in about 15 minutes I was completely inside her ass, yes it was great!! We had anal sex for about an hour followed by a great missionary style and finally she placed her ankles behind her head which drove me wild!

The climax of the story was when she finally told me..
"I have a confession"
"What is it?"
"Girl 1 is not my roommate, she is my lover"
"Oh my god"

I love Braziliamn women, my faith was quickly restored...that explained a lot of things..I now enjoy great sex with two hot brazilian women almost every weekend....Now I can't wait to get to Brazil.


End.

By Dood on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:04 am:  Edit

What issue of penthouse was that in? :)

By Sonnyp on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:52 am:  Edit

fly guy,

i am heading to miami soon and would love to get a taste of brasil while i am there. could you recomend some resteraunts or bars that you spoke of.
get yourself to brasil asap. you will not be waiting 8 dates for some love....more like 8 minutes!!!!! enjoy.

By Traveller on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 12:23 pm:  Edit

Flyguy,

I will be in Miami next month. Would love to visit some of the Brazilian clubs you refer to. Can you supply names/addresses?
Thanks.

By Wilmaflint on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 02:09 pm:  Edit

Lesbianism among termas women might be worth discussing. I've talked with a handful of termas women about this (a couple wouldn't touch this topic), and what follows, of course, is unscientific and take it with a block of salt. If you've been to 4x4, you've all seen the pictures of the women by the stairwell next to the cashier. On the way upstairs, a women pointed at all of the women in the pictures and told me who were the lesbians ("lesbi, lesbi, nao lsebi, lesbi..."): 5-10 weren't and the number was closer to 5; she didn't know about two or three, and she said all of the rest are lesbians. She said 80% of the women at 4x4 are lesbians. She has two namoradas there. (BTW, she was terrific at what she does.) A Termas Rio Antigo woman said the number there was 30%. A Monte Carlo woman gave me a number that is higher than the one for Termas Rio Antigo. The number who have tried or dabbled with it is probably higher. Are the women born lesbians, turned into lesbians by their profession or something else? Certainly, I don't have any answers.

I've asked many termas women about the lovemaking abilities of different nationalities, and many termas women have volunteered their opinions without any prompting. The women say that brasileiros are bad lovers. Americanos get, at best, mixed ratings, and aren't much better than the brasileiros in most opinions (and they were talking to an American). Of course, we are talking averages, and all us great studs on this message board are counter-balanced by those who are not. For every great brasileiro lover there is one or more who isn't. BTW, Europeans rated higher than brasileiros and Americanos. In the final analysis, we (men) are probably just a blur. I can only imagine the number of men they've had and the variety of men and styles of men: from the brutal to the delicado. If I worked in a termas, it all might make me turn to lesbianism. I'm just the messanger and am just reporting what they told me. Talk to the women, and see what answers you get. Again, take all of this with a great dose of skepticism on many different levels.

Another line of questioning I can't resist is whether the loud shouts or screams in the next room are certo (true) ou falso. Nearly everyone who answers the question says: "Falso."

By Wandererinphx on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 03:14 pm:  Edit

Actually, a lot of women I know "go both ways". It is more common for women, even in the US, then guys probably think.

Of "lesbian" women, about 60% are bisexual. Of "straight" women, being with a woman is (on a percentage level) the number one fantasy.

Is it there any question as the woman's form is the most attractive of the species? Women check women out, but how often do you guys check each other out?

Some women confuse a bi-sexual woman with being lesbian. And if she was bi-sexual once and another girl who is not in favor of that hears about it, well, she might always be labelled lesbian.

I also know women who do not like the idea of being with another woman.

I suggest this. In your journeys, casually talk about it (if a girl checks another girl out, say something sincere like - do you find her attractive? which will lead to the question - have you ever thought about being with another woman?). And run the math in your head for a while. Watch the numbers tilt in favor of women who think about it (or even have done it) versus those appaulled by it. You will find the results interesting...

And yes, suffice it say I have had some fun at lesbian bars before... and I am a straight guy. But you can't go into that environment with a mission.

By Traveller on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 04:35 pm:  Edit

Most pros are open to some degree to bi-sexual encounters. The very nature of their life style promotes a casual and open approach to sex in general, and from there it is a small step. Often a guy offers to pay for two, and that's how it starts.
I was recently in a club in San Francisco and witnessed several girls among the audience paying for lap dances and getting on stage for brief lesbo participation. It was very exciting to watch them struggle with their conflicting feelings of embarrassment and desire. Some were fantastic looking and had dressed a little sexy for the event. All were safely escorted by boyfriends.
Some lesbians still like a stiff rod now and again. You will be surprized what you can get away with, especially with couples who want to include the real thing in their play.

By Layne87 on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 05:10 pm:  Edit

All you have to do is reference their counterparts here in the states...

ie...strippers..if you know any of them they are the same high percentage Bi or Les..

It is why they are able to do what they do..

separate sex and love..

By Wilco on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 08:45 pm:  Edit

Wilma, I could'nt accurately speculate on how many of the terma garotas are lesbians or bi; but from what I've heard, being willing to actively participate in sex with another female is a stipulation at some termas. I was even told of one terma garota who was let go for not being willing to do a threesome.

By Bendejo on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 09:06 pm:  Edit

Great topic, WF! Termas girls tell me Americans and Japanese are finished in 5-10 minutes.
Once I picked up a blonde in Help and we really clicked; in the heat of passion she suddenly started babbling on, saying things like 'why can't I find a Brazilian man like this?' Act or not is was pretty funny.
As for who is and ain't gay, well, it's sort of like in this country (US), where when we hear a male celebrity had an affair with another male, people start calling him 'gay' even though he has a wife. Bi-sexual would be the correct term, though many people would not be so open-minded about it and think of him then on as a fag. Maybe to this gal who pointed out the pics had this attitude about who does girl-girl.
In my book a double doesn't make it if the girls aren't into eachother. If I'm setting one up I like to have been 1-on-1 with at least one of the girls first to know where she's at. When I ask 'do you like girls?' I often get a response like 'only for work.' If they sense I'm up to something she might say she's not into it or she'll suggest who the other girl should be. Some perk up at the idea and say 'yes, I have a friend!'
Personally, I think the attitude of a lot of the women down there is 'if it feels good do it.' Even when two girls are making it only because they're being paid to they usually have fun while doing so. A gal who would not munch a rug could end up having a shuddering orgasm from another gal munching hers.
But isn't it interesting how the girls all know the proclivities of each other?

By Youngtom on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 10:04 pm:  Edit

This is an interesting thread and it obviously is good conversational stuff to have with a woman that is willing/wants to talk about it.

I'm obviously not a sociologist but I wonder if any of this matters outside of curiousity. Here we have a bunch of guys that are just visiting Rio for a few days of fun. It is almost a requirement (not necessarily a written one but at a practical level it is) to be bisexual to work in a termas. If you can have some of the best sex in your life with a woman, does it matter if she is bisexual or a lesbian?

Now if you were planning on staying in Rio ( I wish I could) and were interested in establishing a long-term relationship with a women, then whether or not she is a lesbian would obviously be extremely important.

By Wilmaflint on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 04:56 am:  Edit

YT, You're right. If we were interested in someone for the long run, whether she was a lesbian would be more important. We wouldn't want to be another Ross Geller. And at the termas whether or not they are a lesbian doesn't seem to affect their ability to rock our world.

I thought about the parallels with American strip clubs (I've been in my share in SF and pre-Guilliani NYC), and how being open to and willing to participate in lesbianism was probably required for the termas, given the prevalance of threesomes. The percentages the women gave we for the termas were -- I thought at the time -- for those who were primarily lesbians.

We all know how brasilerias love having an orgasmo. The attitude semmed to be like Bendejo put it. To paraphrase, it's seems to be: since I can't find a brasileiro (or americano, for that matter) who can take me to the promised land, there are plenty of women conveniently situated who know how to take me there.

By Flyguy on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 07:53 am:  Edit

Hombres...

Wow, I never knew that my encounter described above would spark so much interest in travelling to Miami now ~wink. Yes the story is very true. However, I was lucky, yes the Brazilian girls were bi-sexual and I was very lucky indeed to have met them, but I was very persistent. I have noticed that most men might have given up by the 3rd or 4th date. I knew there was something there, it was just a "gut" feeling, and it payed off. Sure if anyone wants to come to Miami and visit soem Brazilian hot-spots and resturants drop me an e-mail at oracledba2k@yahoo.com

Dood, thx fopr the compliment, maybe I should write for Penthouse ~grin.

Flyguy

By Smirker on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 10:12 pm:  Edit

On my last trip, once I had found a girl I wanted to session with in a terma, I started asking if the girl really liked other girls or if she liked them only at work. I would say that at least 40% said that they were into other girls. I've been emailing and calling one of them since I've been back. I had an amazing session with her and her hot roomate. They live and work together. Man I can't wait to get back there! My problem is that I know I'm going to screw up that friendship once I bang another 10 girls at there terma. ohhh-Nellie!


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