The working girls outnuber the johns by 7:1. The girls are nowhere as beautiful as the ones in Rio, however, they are more freindly and playful. The going rate for long time is about $30 USD. Between 11:00-12:30 at night is the best time for hunting. As you enter you will see many girls dancing on the stage by themselves showing off their goods. Just strike up a conversation and take one home. All girls are freelancer's. Portuguese language skills is highly reccommended.

what do you mean for long time? I like to spend all night long with girls what do you think I'm going to spend for?

I WENT LOOKING FOR THIS PLACE A FEW WEEKS AGO AND WAS TOLD IT HAD BEEN CLOSED BY THE POLICE AND ITS OWNER INCARCERATED FOR BEING INVOLVED IN THE ILLICIT BUSINESS OF PROSTITUTION..... go figure.

Jupiter, this is bad news.

Prostitution is legal, for the girl. But anything else has some laws in the book against it. So if they want to get the owner of Help, they probably can. At the end, with a VERY good and expensive lawyer, of course, he probably will get out.

But it is sad if they set their priorities in such strange ways. Repressing the places where the girls actually suffer from zero exploitation, and leaving the commercial whore houses intact, forcing the girls to work at places that charge high commissions.

Probably the more exploitative places have more money to pay off police.

It is unlikely Help would have a problem in this regard because it does not get any direct cut from the girls' fees. What the girls are doing is legal, and Help is simply a bar where the girls have the option of transacting their legally sanctioned business.

The termas may be more vulnerable in that they are more directly involved in the transaction. I have wondered whether part of the reason some of the termas do not allow you to pay for the girls' fees with a credit card is for this reason; if they simply pass the cash to the girls without any deductions they might have a more straightforward argument they are not profiting off of the girls' earnings. Things get a bit more convoluted with credit card transactions where there are bank fees, co-mingling of the girls' and the termas fees, etc. Just a thought.

OTOH, now that I notice all the girls were freelancers at the Club Africa, there must be something else going on there. I suppose if the police want to close a place down, they can always find a way.

Excuse me for being pendantic for a minute:

LAGuy, exactly, if the police want to shut you down, arrest you,e tc, they can and will. Wether or not a judge lets it stand is another story. No different from any other country.

All the sex establishments in Brasil walk a fine line of legality. Prostitution is legal in Brasil, anyone else beside the provider profiting in any way from it is illegal. This includes merely providing a place where "transactions" are conducted, so technically Termas are illegal, even if they do not handle any money. Of course, taken to it's logical conclusion, the only way that prostituion is legal is if the girls (or gusy, whatever) solicit only on the street and then fuck in some alleyway (not that this doesn't happen). But most brazilians who can afford it, including politiicans, reporters, and policemen (of course), go to whorehouses the way we go out to dinner. Probably, more business deals have been done in whorehouses than boardrooms! (of course, sometiems the two are indistinguishable). So the "sex establishments" will never be totally shut down. Who gets temporarily arrested when is a matter of if everybody is paying their bribes on time/if the local police chief got up on the wrong side of the bed/ if there is a "media circus" going on for whatever reason. But fundamentally, it's all just show.

Lastly, any hint of underage prostitution is enough to get a place shut down (that's the excuse the police usually uses). Fortaleza, in particular, does have a lot of problems with real underage prostitution, so the clubs in Meirelles/Iracema are constantly getting shut down (Desigual gets busted every few months, I think they are down AGAIN now). Not to mention the "image" thing - Fortaleza's tourist area is relatively small, so it's hard to hide the mongering from the average "family-oriented" tourist they are trying to attract. So, in general Fortaleza hotels are touchier about bringing "guests" to your room than Rio hotels, and you'll notice that there are almost no GP's along the beach.. they've all been chased back to Avenida Abolicao. And lets' not even talk about Praia do Futuro where the girls are literally chased off the beach by the club waiters...

OK, nuff bullshit. I'm sure there is still plenty to enjoy in Fortaleza

BS

Gentlemen, have any of you gone back recently? If possible, please reply. A group of us friends are going there for the first time. We went to Rio and loved it except it was a little more money. We heard many good things about Fortaleza so we want to check it out. The price seems to fit my budget and it seems to be worth it rather than in Rio. Thank you for your time and hope to hear back from someone.