Cali June 20,2002
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Cali June 20,2002
I am going to Cali June 20th. I need info on:
1. Where the Girls are.
2. Scams and Safety.
3. Hotels.
4. Film and processing costs.
| By Batman on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 08:17 am: Edit |
RD..I arrive in Cali tomorrow, but here is an interesting report I picked up from another TSM'R.
I had the opportunity to experience a week in Cali, Colombia in mid-July 2001. All I can say isÖ.WOW! I had a FANTASTIC time. In the past, I have traveled to Thailand, Cuba, Mexico, DR, and various European countries and, in my opinion, Cali is the best TSM destination I have seen (bar none). The prices are dirt cheap (comparable with Bangkok), the women are absolutely beautiful and fun, and the people are friendly. As far as the safety issue, no bombs went off and I did not see any evidence of crime whatsoever. I felt quite safe my entire stay. Look for Bruce to post a few pictures from my Cali trip soon.
I had been weighing the pros and cons of such a trip for months before, with the bulk of my research focusing on TSM reports. There seemed to be two schools of thought in the archives/discussions concerning Cali: #1. It is much too dangerous to journey anywhere in Colombia, let alone Cali or #2. Cali is an elite destination in terms of chica-banging potential and worth the risk, as long as you use your head. Most of the TSMíers who have journeyed to Cali seemed to emphasize that if I stayed where I was supposed to stay, Iíd be fine (which turned out to be true).
Iíd like to throw out a special ìthank-youî to Striker65 for his excellent report on Cali a few months ago. I visited many of the places he mentioned and will be adding more detail to some of the sites he mentioned. A report like Strikerís really improves a trip for a Cali-newbie like me.
For the sake of perspective and background (because it can make a difference), I am a white professional from the Midwest in my early 30ís (although I look younger). I speak a little Spanish (far from fluent) but enough to get by. At the time of my visit the exchange rate was approximately 2200 pesos/ 1 U.S. dollar and I will be quoting in pesos from here on.
I actually made the mistake of canceling my first scheduled trip to Cali in early July. Because of a new (and more ominous) travel warning from the U.S. government and pleading from various family and friends, I panicked and changed my plans from Cali to Boca Chica, DR. Big mistake! Boca Chica is a nice little resort area, but VERY LOW quality in terms of chica-potential. I will never return to Boca Chica, barring major changes to the current state of puntang there.
After returning stateside, I became afflicted with a major case of ìtravelers remorseî and decided that I was an IDIOT for aborting my trip to Colombia. As a result, I immediately bought another ticket for Cali- a very expensive ticket I might add due to the short notice (almost double what I would have paid before).
I flew American Airlines to Miami and then on to Cali. On the way down, I met an American girl on her way to Cali to visit her Colombian boyfriend. Her boyfriend was nice enough to show me around Cali a bit before dropping me off at Hotel Windsor Plaza (Calle 17N No. 4N-65, tele- 660-6390). I was very satisfied with H.W.P. since it was clean, relatively inexpensive (109,000 pesos a night), and was close to everything (although I hear that cheaper options do exist, namely Pension Stein which I did not visit). From what I understand, I probably could have negotiated a lower rate at H.W.P., but, quite frankly, I didnít feel like negotiating and accepted the first price quoted. The staff were quite friendly and accommodating and a standard room contains a full size bed, refrig, color TV with cable, air con, etc. I believe it was about 20,000 pesos per night extra to bring back a guest.
The first night I set off in search of the famed Flores Frescas (supposedly, ground zero in Cali). Of course, the 3-4 taxi drivers I consulted had no idea where it was (and I had forgotten to bring the address). It was getting late so I decided to chance it and ask a taxi driver for a recommendation para chicas. I hate doing this but since no one could find Flores Frescas I was out of options. The cabdriver took me to a house that (I found out later) was not unlike Flores Frescas. I donít remember (forgot to grab a business card) much about this place but it was 10,000 pesos entry fee and I walked in during a lesbian show (about the only thing I know is that it wasnít Flores Frescas and it wasnít Club Rio). There was a small pool in place of a stage and the two women (One was a 7 the other about a 5) were busy eating and shoving dildos up each other. I didnít see any other gringo in the whole place but there were probably 20-25 other men and 20-25 chicas at about midnight on a Friday morning. Many of these other men had Colombian soccer jerseys on since Copa America (a huge international soccer tournament with many countries represented) was happening in Cali during my visit. There were a few stunning women in this place walking around scantily-clad (about 3-4 9ís). The guy at the door, recognizing that I was a gringo and probably new to the place, introduced me to a real cute girl (about an 8) and after some small talk consisting of my malo espanol and her poco Ingles, I agreed to follow this chick to a room. This was the deal ñ 50,000 pesos for an hour with the chick in one of their back rooms (actually the rooms were up a level). There were lower cost options for less time but I canít remember. This girl had nice C-cups and from what I remember, showed me a good time. But that first night was pretty much a blurÖ
The next day I went and hung out at ChipeChope (sp?) mall that everyone talks about. This is a large, outdoor shopping mall with cinemas, restaurants, etc. I was there three days and saw some decent talent. Itís a nice place to shop, get a beer, read a book, visit the cybercafe to check email, and look at some talent walking around. I didnít see one 10 in three days there although I saw a few 9ís and a bunch of 8ís. I had the opportunity to visit the mall at night and I thought there was much better talent around at night (although some with boyfriends).
Later that night, I had planned to check out some of the discos in town. While walking into my hotel, the doorman introduced me to a friend of his named Ramon. Ramon is a middle-aged, Colombian gentleman who used to be married to an American woman. Thus, at one time he lived in New York. He volunteered to show me around a bit and I readily accepted. We toured many of the smaller discos on Calle Sexta and talked with a bunch of girls. Ramon is a great guide to have as you tour Cali. He is very motivated to act as the ìgo betweenî between you and a potential chica(s). In addition, he knows a bunch of girls who want to meet gringo guys. All he charged me was $30 a night plus I took care of drinks for chicas (Ramon, himself, doesnít drink alcohol) and cab fare. If any of you need a reliable ìguideî for chica-hunting in Cali, here is Ramonís contact info- ballesteros@usa.com, tele- 5133458. Heís a good guy and wonít rip you off. I hung out with Ramon for 2 nights since I hooked up with a non-pro later in my trip (more on that later).
Another night, Ramon brought over a few chicas for me to meet. There was one 9, one 8, one 7 and one 5. We all ended up going to some disco where Ramon knows the owner and partied all night. All 4 girls were very cool and I had a blast (and they were all non-pros). Total price for partying with four Colombian girls and Ramon- U.S. $75. That was with me taking care of the cover charges, drinks, and cabfare.
A good thing to do, in my opinion, is to hook up with someone like Ramon and have him introduce you to a couple of non-pros in the evening. Go out with them for dinner and/or drinks and/or dancing and see if any chemistry develops. If not, get rid of them by midnight and then hit a casa or a place like Flores Frescas. You canít lose in Cali!
I hit several casas during my Cali trip. For those of you unfamiliar with the casa scene, here it is as I experienced them- Cabdriver brings you to a very ordinary-looking Colombian house. You ring the doorbell, usually a guy will answer the door and you ask him how many chicas are currently available. In the daytime (where the pickings are slimmer) this varied from 1 to 5 chicas depending on the casa. At night in these casas, there are usually more quantity and quality.
One day, I decided to look for the casa that Striker65 mentioned in his report a few months back. He said it was one of his favorite places and it was located ìaround the corner from Hollywood CafÈ.î Well, it turns out it is around the corner from Hollywood Discoteca and the name of the place is Club Social Dinas (Cra. 50 No. 10-31, tele- 553 5007). I liked this place also, because, as Striker stated, you canít beat it for the price. One night (well, early morning) I showed up at 1 A.M. and they woke up the 5 chicas- one 7, one 6, three 5ís- and I selected the 7 (her name was Marisol- 18 years old). This chica had a GREAT body and average face (see photos). But this chick was FANTASTIC in the sack and seemed to really enjoy performing. But the best part of it was the price- 50,000 pesos for an hour! She was so smoking I splurged and rented her for an additional O hour for 30,000 pesos. In the daytime at Club Social Dinas (before 5pm), the following price structure was told to me- 40,000 pesos for one hour, 30,000 pesos for O hour, and 20,000 pesos for 20 minutes. I went there on a couple of other occasions just to check out the talent and noticed of couple of solid 8ís reside there also.
Another casa where I had good luck was a place called Cambiadero De Aceite (Calle 5 B3BIS No. 38-60, tele- 514 0355). There, I met a VERY sweet 18 year old named Tallia and she was another very motivated chica. Tallia had just moved to Cali a month ago. All the other girls there, however, were 4ís and 5ís, in my opinion. I wanted to check Tallia out again the next day but she was ìoccupiedî, if you know what I mean. She was an excellent value; I believe at this place it was 45,000 for 1 hour.
Two other casas I visited were called Empaques Milenium. They had 2 locations: #1) Principal- Calle 9B #39-14, B/Los Cambulos, Frente a las Canchas de Patinaje and #2) Sucursal- Calle 5A #39-76, B/Tequendama, Frente a Colseguros. I visited these 2 places in the daytime and they had limited talent, however, both guys insisted (at each casa) that after 8 pm there is a much better selection. I didnít have time to find out, unfortunately.
One day, just to break things up a bit, I decided to search out a massage place in Cali. Ever since I journeyed to Thailand for the first time 4 years ago, I really learned to enjoy massage. So I threw caution into the wind and asked a taxi driver to take me to a massage place. After radioing into ìheadquartersî a couple of times for info., he dropped me off at some place called Spartakus Club (Carrera 23A #8A-15 Barrio Alameda, tele- 557 0764). I was shown into the place by an older lady and she asked me whether I wanted a female or male masseuse. Give me a break! A chica, of course. I followed her up a flight of stairs and she introduced me to the masseuse who looked to be in her early 30ís- about a 6. At this point, I was just looking for a decent massage so looks really didnít matter. I was charged 25,000 for the 1 hour massage. She did a solid job, complete with incense and soothing music in the background. The masseuse gave me a spirited hand release and I tipped her 5000 pesos (which she seemed happy with) afterward. I donít know if full service was available or if other massage chicas were available (I suspect affirmative on both), but it was a nice change up on my trip.
I finally secured the address of Flores Frescas (Calle 20N 4N-16), and went to check out the place. I caught the lesbian show, kind of cool although not much different than the other place I visited. There were about 30 girls working this night and I was a bit disappointed with the selection (for the price). I mean, Flores Frescas charges a high entrance fee (15,000 pesos) and a very high (for Colombia) 100,000 pesos for 1 hour with any of the girls. I only saw 1 girl worth this price and she was already sitting on the lap of some other guy- she was a solid 9. The other women ranged from 6-8ís. I just couldnít justify in my mind paying 100,000 pesos for an 8 when I could find another 8 at a casa (admittedly, Iíd have to look around a bit) for half the price. So I got the hell out of there after a few beers and went to a casa. Iím sure I was just there on a bad night (Monday night), since multiple TSMíers can not be wrong.
One day I visited a restaurant recommended by Striker called Simon Parillas (Autopista Sur Con Kia 46). First of all, the food is wonderful! I ordered a LARGE steak (baby beef), beans, rice, fried banana, 2 beers, etc. for 15,000 pesos (U.S. $7-8). The steak was huge and I couldnít eat it all. If you go to Cali, be sure and check out this place- itís pretty cool and the food is great. On top of that, they have some cute waitresses and it is right down the street from Club Social Dinas (see above).
The highlight of my trip happened when I met a chica (non-pro) while eating at another restaurant in Cali. I noticed a very cute, blond hostess walking around doing various job-related tasks. She was about 5í3î, 110 pounds, blonde hair, blue eyes, great ass, great perky tits, and THE greatest smile youíve ever seen. Just my type, I decided. So I started BSíing with my waiter who spoke English and asked for the story on this chica. The guy indicated that the girl (Sandra- not her real name) was 22 and he didnít think she had a boyfriend. Well, that was enough for me- I wrote down my name, hotel name, and hotel phone number and told the waiter to give it to Sandra and say that I would like to take her out for dinner or dancing since I think she is muy bonita y simpatica. I then left before the interaction took place. The next day, Sandra ended up calling and we spent my last 2 days together touring Cali. I met her family- her mother spoke fluent English since she used to live in the U.S. years ago. Sandra was marriage-material in my opinion as she was beautiful, fun, and had a great heart. I almost extended my trip to be with her longer but I had to get back to the states. Sandra is in college at a local university and working at the restaurant part-time. Her mother owns a factory in town and they appeared upper middle class by Cali standards. I can see why so many guys come to Cali to look for wives- the women are, on average, beautiful, nice, fun, and smart. Contrast that with your average overweight, bitchy American girl and its no contest.
Well, that was the quick version of my Cali trip. I hope this will encourage some of you to take the plunge and give Cali a shot (but not too many of you). Iím kicking myself for not taking more photos while I was there but sometimes I would get lost in the moment and forget. Or it was a pain in the ass to bring my camera, etc. etc. But I did take a few so, hopefully, Bruce will post them soon. Feel free to e-mail if you have any questionsÖ. And, as always, enjoy the life.
--Zippy
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| By Gator on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 06:57 pm: Edit |
carrera quince ain't hard to find its out near the Plaza de Toros(south Cali) on the way to Jamundi. BTW go on towords Jamundi and you will find the same type clubs as Juanchito.
PS IMHO better area than Av. Sexto