-A Candid Conversation with a Former Agency Girl

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By Sandman on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 07:32 pm:  Edit

A Candid Conversation with a Former Agency Girl

I had a unique opportunity for a candid conversation with a former Karla Escort, of famed renown, today. She is now freelancing but explained how the whole process works with Karlas (and similarly with other agencies). The conversation was made possible with the assistance of a person fluent in both Portuguese and English.

There has been much speculation on this board about splits, taxis, trocas, tips and other elements of using Escort Services. This is straight from her lips with clarifications requested when needed. She was very candid in explaining everything;

  1. The programma cost of R$100 is split between the agency and the girl “BUT” the first 4 programmas per week go 100% to the agency to pay for housing and food for the girls. So, the girl does not make a dime until the 5th program of the week;
  2. Tips are 100% to the girls;
  3. Trocas (or changing at festas) are normally R$50 per change but many of us negotiate a flat rate for unlimited trocas. The girl gets to keep that entire amount;
  4. Taxis-Normally R$20 in Copa and R$25 to Vips are whatever the meter cost. If there is change, the girl gets to keep it;
  5. Top girls average about R$500 per week (which is above average minimum wage for a month for most Brazilians but also translates into 13-15 programmas per week). If a girl does not do enough programmas to pay for her housing cost, she must make it up on future programmas or is let go if she can not meet her minimums;
  6. The girls must pay the agency R$250 for having their photos on the internet and to pay for the photographer;
  7. They live on site at the agency M-F and are allowed to go home on weekends;
  8. If a customer complains, the girl is almost always considered at fault and may not get paid if a substitute/replacement is requested by the client;
  9. They are not supposed to accept programmas when they are having their period but some lie about it and do anyway. Most don’t unless they are desperate. This is probably the main reason that substitutions happen.


The girls like festas with gringos because we have food, drinks, music and are not so rough on them as Brasileros (that required some clarification). Seems the Brasileros almost all want anal and pound the shit out of the girls!

I asked what we should do differently at our normal festas (how could we improve; what we should do differently; what the girls liked or didn’t like). She replied we had the best festas and all the girls wanted to be selected to attend. We are the topic of many discussions amongst the girls and they all look forward to attending. She also added that when we call for a Vips festa, there is a buzz of excitement at the agency…….and more chocolates was the only thing she could suggest! Of course, she is a choco-holic…he he!

She now only needs to do 3-4 programmas per week to make the same amount but does not have the benefit of the agency advertising.

There you have it fellow Hombres. The real story on how the agencies work. The girls have a great incentive to be pleasing, not have any complaints and make sure they have repeat client opportunities.

By Dongringo on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 08:46 pm:  Edit

Sandman
Excellent reporting. Helps to better understand these lovelies. What's the policy concerning weekend freelancing with us gringos? None have ever offered it. Is it 'frowned upon' by the agencies?
DG
PS
Nice touch sending me her picture today while she was there. Brought a tear to my eye actually. I now can better understand how a hungry cuban feels when he sees pictures of our supermarkets.

By Thumper on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 09:18 pm:  Edit

Who is the former Karla girl? Is it Claudinha? She recently left the agency after seeing her boyfriend get shot and killed.

By Coffee_maker on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 09:33 pm:  Edit

Great investigative reporting SM. I'll be there in just 6 more days.

By Wickedwilly on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 12:46 am:  Edit

Information that is right on the button. Thanks Sandman

By Sandman on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 03:25 am:  Edit

Good question Deeg. I'll ask her next time I see her.

I purposely left out her name but she is one of about 6 that have left in the past three months.

If anyone else has curious questions not covered here, I'll be happy to inquire.

By Bwana_dik on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 08:00 am:  Edit

NIce work, Sandman. Question: Is she still willing to do festas with the Karla girls?

I've got a couple of big bags of chocolate ready for my Sept. visit. Can you say "festa time"?

By Ixtoc on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:21 am:  Edit

Sandman:

Wow, I always thought the agency girls were lower volume that what you've learned. 13 - 15 programas a week M - F? That 2 - 3 per day.

Thanks you for finding all this out and posting it. Makes me consider tipping a bit more early in the week to make sure the girl get's something out of the session.

Ix

By FLhobbyer on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 12:16 pm:  Edit

Great post Sand!

By Sterling on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:55 pm:  Edit

Sandman,

I guess I'm not the only one who loves a VIP's festa. When I know I'm going to be involved in one there is quite "buzz" in my world too.

I'll bring some extra chocolate when I'm there in a couple weeks and we'll have to festa. It'll be good to see you. Even if it is just the top of your head over a camera.

Sterling

By Sandman on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 08:07 am:  Edit

ha ha ha Bwana. Of course I can spell festa. I also have her new e mail address since I helped her set it up. I will give it to you in a PM.

Yeah Sterling, a lot of juices get flowing at the sound of the word "festa".

Bringt all the chocolates you have room for in your bags. Always big hits with the girls.

By Smirker on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 04:01 pm:  Edit

Hey little girl, would you like some candy?

Question! Do these girls love chocolate that much that you could use it with the Help girls to negotiate a better rate or an overnight stay?

By Bwana_dik on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 04:58 pm:  Edit

Nope. They like chocolate but they're not fools. The chocolate is used back at the apartment/hotel to enhance the quality of the services rather than their price.

By Sandman on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 03:29 am:  Edit

Smirk, when you learn how to say, "pull down your knickers for a snickers?" in Portuguese, you will be in puta paradise (but don't expect to get a discount.....he he)

By Catocony on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 10:20 am:  Edit

I once traded a liter of Johnny Walker for a long time with a Korean hooker, but never got much play for a candy bar.

I remember reading that after WWII, Italian hookers would trade sessions for cans of Spam. I can see one of us now, walking into a terma with bag of groceries.......

By Wombat88 on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:39 am:  Edit

El Burro had plenty of tales about walking into Thai bars with a bag of mangosteens (yummy fruit only available in Asia). He'd get mobbed by the girls there.

By Marcopolo on Monday, August 30, 2004 - 02:34 pm:  Edit

Sandman; I truly appreciate your investigative interview with the Garotta on escorts insides. i have now a better understanding on how the system works and better prepared to deal with it. was going to ask, did she ever told you how someone could get one of those girls to spend the night with you?. anyways, GREAT REPORT!!!
MarcoPolo

By Sandman on Monday, August 30, 2004 - 03:42 pm:  Edit

MP-Thanks for the memory jog. I owed a response to DG. I did ask her about weekend freelancing;

Karlas forbids it. If they are caught, they are fired without appeal. Copa and Ipanema are too small to risk being seen by someone they know. In addition, most have families and kids and the weekends are the only time they get to see them.



By Sandman on Monday, August 30, 2004 - 03:46 pm:  Edit

Oh...Bwana. She said she would love to be invited to a festa as a free lancer.

I'm game!

By Bwana_dik on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 06:17 am:  Edit

Sandman,
Excellent! A festa is definitely in the cards.


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