This will be my final Club Hombre post.

I've enjoyed meeting a lot of guys on the board, in various places around the world, and especially in Brazil, where I've made some good friends who I hope to keep up with.

I'm signing off CH because we continue to have the occasional asshole in our midst who can't simply gather and use the information here as intended, but feels compelled to try to gain an advantage with the girls by sharing information that shouldn't be shared.

While in Rio the past 2 weeks I was accosted by one of my very favorite garotas, who was upset after having been shown the ins and outs of the CH site by one of our members. This jerk told my favorita all about me (says he knows me, but I don't think I really know him, as I can sniff out a total asshole pretty quickly), showed her my posts, and showed her a listing of the pics I've posted (he couldn't show the pics because they are blocked). He pointed out the blocking of pics as proof that we (and I in particular) have something to hide. This created a good deal of grief for me, and my friend also told all her friends about CH. As a consequence, there are a number of additional garotas who won't allow photos, period. I explained to my friend that I'd never posted her photo because I promised her I wouldn't (true) and that I only have posted pictures of girls who said it was OK to do so (also true). This didn't help much, though, and she is now suspicious of all of us.

I've always tried to play by what I regard as the rules of fair play. I don't see any benefit to screwing over other guys in the eyes of these women. I don't talk to them about CH or the guys on CH, but a minority of the guys who join up do. I still don't comprehend why these losers might do this. I suppose they're trying to impress these girls by implying that we are bad guys with a secret club devoted to spying on them, while they are good guys devoted to "outing" us bad guys and protecting the reputations of these girls. Whatever the motive, it's counterproductive for everyone, including the guys who think they are gaining some sort of an advantage with the girls.

In any event, it just seems to me that the potential costs of continuing to contribute here outweigh the potential benefits. Even though I continue to find the information posted here of great value, I have no desire to provide ammunition to the handful of losers who will attempt to use it against me.

I plan to give Hombre an update of my Rio Guide, but doubt that I will put the effort into future updates after that. Similarly, I was planning to prepare a guide for another city in Brazil but have now shelved that plan.

As I said before, it's been a pleasure getting to know many of you. I'll see you guys around, as I'll still be enjoying the CH lifestyle. But if I see this asshole from Miami (yes, she told me all about you and gave me plenty of info), expect something other than a warm greeting.

Até logo, amigos.

Bwana

Bwana,

Sorry to see you go.. I have been going to rio for the last year and your inputand guide has been really helpful. I leave NYC on these trips to get away from cock blocking jerks and more importantly meet women who are truly outstanding. Good luck to you and hopefully this guy will get the crap beat out of him. best - luckybiegs

Damm this hurts. I too am sorry to see you leave this site.

Your guides have been and will continue to be a great help to the newbies and vet's alike. It is a shame that some assholes out there, and there are a lot of them, just don't know how to keep there mouths shut.

Those girls are not dumb, whatever short term gain a guy could hope to get by doing this will only back fire on them in the long run, the guys that play that game are just too dumb to know it.

Hope you get some payback and enjoy doing it. Prunning sheers and power drills can be fun in all the wrong places.

Roadglide

Thats not right to do boys, why ruin a good thing? This sight has changed my life and Im sure Im not the only one. BD's Rio guide was priceless ,for someone to out any of the ex-pats down there is a crime ,and for what more attention from prostitutes?

Doesnt sound logical to me.

Thanks for all the Insight BD although Ive never met you maybe I will one day ,sorry this happened to you.

Good Luck

Bwana--

I have to echo the sentiments reflected above, and the many more that are sure to follow. I am planning on going to Rio within the next few months, and your guides have been invaluable planning tools.

The CH community, such that it is, will be losing a tremendous resource. It is a shame that there are assholes among us that don't have the sense or the decency to keep this thing of ours quiet.

Thank you for your insights and contributions. I am sorry that I will never get a chance to meet you in person!

Saludos,
Pendejo

Bwana you are rightfully angry at the asshole who burned you with their malicious actions. However, please consider that these assholes will do this to anyone and any site in their preverted attempt at trying to suppossed gain some advanatage from a garato. They will continue with their stupidity regardless of if you contribute or not, and their actions hurt all of the honorable mongers at this site.

You certainly have every right to choose to contribute or not contrubute your valuable info and insights on CH, however, I hope you will re-consider as the fucked up actions of these bastards only further hurts other honorable mongers when their actions drive away such a valuable and pioneering contributer to information in brazil as Bwana.

This is a sad day for CH.

You should really out the fucker, those of us that live here can track him down.

Bwana this just sickens me that some asshole would do this to you and to all of us for that matter. I surely will miss your posts but I am very thankful I got to spend sometime with you on your recent trip. I look forward to seeing you again soon. Thanks for all your information you have provided and please stay in touch. Hemp

Id say that outing these guys is the best thing to do, Im sorry I thought you lived there, so my first post on this thread doesnt make sense

Hey BD,

What a huge loss. I understand your decision, but am saddened that a few assholes are screwing this up for the majority of us.

Hope there is another way to benefit for your excellent advice and knowledge,

take care

ix

Bwana,

Let me repeat all the above tributes. Although we haven't met, your guide was invaluable to me when making my first trip to Rio.

Like others have stated, I say you out the fuck. Anyone who uses CH for the type of trivial gains in the eyes of the garotas that you describe does NOT deserve membership. Let us know who this prick is!

Thanks again,

EA

Bwana

I understand the dilema in which you find yourself, and respect your decision. It is for this reason that I no longer contribute anything to any board under my published handle of DonGringo.

Anonymity, not only with the garotas but with everyone is of greater importance/value than what we can learn/share on a board.

Ironically, like so many others of us, this weasel has probably gained a lot from your printed guide to Rio.

The fact remains that 1 out of a 1000 members will always be a dickless wonder in spite of anything we say or do to protest it. You've made the right choice. Hope to see ya again someday soon.

BD, I hope you'll reconsider. I'm sure many will agree that you're easily one of the most respected and insightful guys here and it pains me to no end to see you go like this. Your experiences and advice on both SA and Asia will be truly irreplaceable.

I've also had a similar experience with a guy doing the same thing to me to with a Cali girl and it irked me and troubled me to no end. It was truly disillusioning to me to realize that some guys don't understand what it means to be part of the "band of brothers". My decision to continue posting pics and reports was a way for me to deal with the frustrations and to demonstrate my resolve to some of these guys in making this site second to none.

All of us will support you no matter what you decide to do, but I really and truly hope you will take some time to reconsider your decision to leave. Best of luck.

I know this is real hard to implement but would be nice to have an honor code for all CH members. It would be part of the binding agreement when you sign up and pay for the subscription. NO blabbing off to the girls about the site. If and when someone gets busted for doing so by a fellow CH member, they should be reported and warned. If they talked to 2 or more girls, they should be banned immediately from the site for life.

We should all complain about this behavior to the admins of this site. Bwana, you should complain and give the admins the info you have on this guy so they can cancel his membership and block him from ever rejoining. The owners of the site could maintain a blacklist.

CH needs to find a way to control this nonsense and I'm pretty sure they would just want to ban the offender from the site right away because this kind of behavior is not only foolish but actually threatens the business of the site!!

There is always a "Judas" in every crowd, who will sell out others for their personal gain. Sorry to see you go, as I have always enjoyed your good information and postings.

Moondog

Bwana dik, I hope you'll reconsider, as it's a shame that some asswipe can shut you down. Especially if you like the site here. Might I suggest a 'nom de plume' instead?

If not and you're truly intent on leaving the community entirely, I'll always keep a lookout at porquer@yahoo.com for any insights you may want to share privately.

Thanks for all your immense contributions to this board.

I think the best way to stop such behavior - and we do want to see an end of assholes sharing this type of information with girls, or worse showing them a private site! - is to out the guy. Please.

Bwana, it sucks that you have to leave like this. THANK YOU for all your contributions and especially your Rio Guide.

Bwana, Geez, this blows. I would like to thank you for the amount of information that you shared with us on this site. It was a pleasure meeting you on one of my trips.

What kind of loser takes pleasure into making life miserable for a fellow hombre. This is the 3rd hombre that I know who have been burned on this site by another poster.

Hate to see you go Bwana. Your contributions to the site are exemplary. It's unfortunate that a few members don't understand the term discretion. What they think they have to gain by showing off the site mystifies me.

Bwana

I never been to Rio and have not read your guide but I know you have contributed a lot to this board. I also know the feelings as I was confronted by my favorite in Cali and she asked me the same question if and why I had posted her pics on the "internet". So I wonder if it is the same guy who did that to you in Brazil and to me in Colombia. I was shocked and out of words when confronted by the chica in Cali and I had the exact same feelings as you do, "why provide ammunition to the handful of losers who will attempt to use it against me." But then I thought about it and realized if I stop contributing to the board then the person who did that to me had won. And that is my point. Hope you reconsider.

JKarp

Bwana:

I just want to say Thank You for what you have done for so many of us. There are some incredible idiots out there, bottom line, if a guy thinks he is doing the girls a favor by sharing this info, he is incredibly stupid, it is as stupid as thinking your garota only sleeps with you and takes the rest of the year off. They may be nice girls, but they are working.

I recently returned from my first trip, and your information is what made my trip successful, incredibly fun and I felt safe. If you are ever in chicago, drop me an email and dinner is on me.

I just feel bad for future mongers, who will not have your detailed analysis of the scene. We can always do a lot of research, but your guide, made it a lot easier.

Thank you for your efforts.
I appreciate them.

I wanted to add my appreciation for all your insights...They are and will continue to be valuable to many. Thank you.

It is a shame that a handful of guys will bite the hand that feeds them the knowledge.

Take care and best wishes Bwana.

BD

Was a pleasure hooking up with you that night in BKK. Wish we had more time to spend in Thailand. Your input and wisdom will surely be missed here in CH.

Here's my new email address if you want to contact me again: epithai@gmail.com

If you find the guy give him a pat on the back with a sledge hammer from me if you'd be so kind...

E

Bwana,
You are the Jordan of this site, We hope your retirement is like his first one.
Best wishes
Kevykev

Bwana - Why not reveal the identity of this asshole? Trust & confidentiality is key in this hobby. If we don't have that we are all in trouble! I spent quite a bit of time with a lot of other mongers on my last trip & shared many things that should be left several thousand miles away. If you can't do that, well that is just a fucking shame. The best part (for me at least) of going to Rio is the ability to hang with these girls and just have a good time. If they now will be more cautious and distrustful that is shame. Its all just a delicate house of cards.....

BD,

sorry to hear this stuff can happen from so far away. i'm only go to TJ and you hear about this stuff happening from time to time there too.

it sucks that some jealous, insecure loser has nothing better to do except screw with others. would he want the same done to him? i highly doubt it. i hope this loser grows up sometime soon.

Drobledo wrote: "CH needs to find a way to control this nonsense and I'm pretty sure they would just want to ban the offender from the site right away because this kind of behavior is not only foolish but actually threatens the business of the site!!"

is there a way for CH to check what handles logged in down in Brazil? maybe BD could let admin know a time frame this outing occured. i'm not endorsing a witchhunt or gestapo tactics because people's business is private but a serious monger code was broken here. JMHO

Thanks for the kind words and thoughts. If I find the guy's CH handle, I'll turn it over to Hombre for appropriate action. I have a lot of personal information on him, but don't want to out him in that way. I think it's counterproductive if I respond in kind to this little prick. Believe me, I'll get even, but not in a way that seriously jeopardizes the guy's life, income, etc. But he will come to regret what he's done.

There's a lesson here. Guys might consider being a bit more circumspect in sharing personal information until you really know and trust the person you are sharing it with. Going on a fuck-bender with some guys does not mean that they are trustworthy and can be assumed to protect your anonymity.

Same goes for giving information to the girls. Let me share a cautionary tale. This past Sunday I went to visit a long-time garota friend of mine who was sick. While at her apartment she started talking about some of her clients. She pulled out a stack of business cards and handed them to me, asking me if I knew any of them, whether the businesses they were in were lucrative, etc. I couldn't believe that so many guys had just handed her that kind of info about themselves. I've known her for 7 years and she doesn't know my real name. The fact that she casually handed those business cards over to me to look over suggests that the info you give these girls is hardly secure! Were I a scumbag, I could have copied the info down and created hell for these guys. I didn't and wouldn't, but another guy might. I must say, it never occured to me to give these girls my business card, let alone my full real name.

Also last week I heard a true story about one of our brothers, a married guy, getting blackmailed by the wife of a CH member (who had hacked into her husband's account) to keep his wife from being told about his Rio exploits.

I don't share these things to freak others out, but to suggest that guys be a bit more wary and a bit more cautious about sharing personal information here and with one another while traveling. Ninety-five percent of the guys here are trustworthy, but separating them from the few who are lowlife pond scum is not always as easy as it would seem.

I'll see you guys around, and I'll still be Bwana...just not here.

Keep on fuckin'!

Bwana

Damn, this is too coincidental. Just last week I had a LT friend ask me if I had posted pictures of her at a place called Club Hombre. Naturally, I feigned any knowledge of the named site or of any photos of her. Then she asked me if I had given any of her photos to anyone from Miami. I replied of course not and just let it drop at that.


I may have to make some serious considerations here as well buddy.

We'll miss you on CH but know we will see you often.

Tchau

Before reading any trip report, you have to click through a page explaining confidentiality issues. This is how a german website I joined solves this problem. Over and over again it explains that the content should not be shown to anyone, especially to girls. Germans are very meticulous and formal


This way nobody has an excuse that they innocently did divulge confidential information. It is not obvious. Not everyone understands the seriousness of these issues without special coaching

Maybe instead of having a confidentiality warning before every single post, it could figure prominently on the login page!

Sorry to see you go Bwana Dik as you have certainly made some of the finest contributions to this board and you will be missed. It is perhaps ironic that while this board tries to have better "security" than others, I have read about more problems here than elsewhere. Perhaps CH should do away with the supposed security on future picture posts so that people don't get a false sense of security here. Irrespective of what security measures are in place, the issue of rats ruining it for the rest of us will always be there, and no level of security is going to prevent this. Indeed security on viewing the pictures sometimes will have unintended consequences (such as making it impossible to prove to a garota that her picture has NOT been posted, or perhaps by making breaking the security a challenge and in a twisted way encouraging some to then disseminate the results). My take on all this is pictures should only be posted with clear permission; if that permission is granted there should be no problem if the garota sees her picture on a website and therefore security is unnecessary. While we may all like to see a greater abundance of pictures than such a rule would allow, any other regime, including that in place here, is a prescription for trouble (and that is quite apart from any moral issues). As to trip reports, some discretion may be necessary in naming specific garotas, although this issue is not as significant since most of the garotas use stage names and at least posting information about them does not jeopardize their relationships outside their work.

Bwana,

I join the others in thanking you for your considerable contributions to this board, which have been very helpful to me personally, and in condemning the actions of the self-centered asshole(s) that ruin it for the rest of us.

I hope to meet you one day.

One of my favoritas was shown my pictures of her on this site, and had some unkind words for me in her request that I un-post the pictures(written by the guy who wanted her to become pure for him). I will find out whether the damage is real if our date to celebrate our birthdays together is still on in Dec.

And I'm not sure I'd be as charitable as you in the retribution area. Actions that hurt our community should have consequences, like Brazilian jails.

I wish you the best in your continued but more private mongering.

Bwana:

Couple of things:

First of all I urge you to reconsider your decision. By doing so you will disable the asshole amongst us from benefiting from their despicable behaviour.

Second I would like to thank-you for all your input. Your Bwana DIk guide to Rio led me there the first time two years ago and ten times since then. Actually not sure whether to thank or curse you! hhahahahahahahahahaha

Finally I wish you the best of luck in all your future poon hunting expeditions.

Yours Truly
KingTutTheSlut

Bwana
I am sorry this has happened to you. This is not the first time and sadly won't be the last time.
I know guys thats have been outed on many occasions and its normally the ones with great reports and photos that suffer and end up not giving out any more info and become lowkey type of guys.

it is pathetic losers gringos that have no life and think they will earn brownie points by doing this.

I am from the Mexico boards ( I hope you will not think less of me now ) and I know one girl that was given printouts and the girl gave the guy up easily and not only that but she gave us his address and where he worked. We were honestly considering doing some damage to him but we thought he led such a sad life that we would let that be enough punishment.

Anyone who prints out reports and shows photos to these working girls you are nothing but wimpy pathetic losers and need to get a life

thats all I gotta say
Milk

RG wrote, 'whatever short term gain a guy could hope to get by doing this will only back fire on them in the long run'. I agree with his statement and yeah, the dude is dumber than these girls. But I think it got nailed with the words, 'hope for'. The guy gave this girl the so called 'keys to the castle'. But doesn't that make him suspect in her eyes also? Doing something as stupid as that probably backfires immediately rather than in the long run. I think most of the girls know these sites exist and would rather not hear about it taking a position of the less i know the better off i am.

Bwana,

We have known each other quite some time, and I honestly believe that your ground breaking Guide to Rio gave many of us our start in this wonderful city. You certainly deserve the credit you so richly deserve, and I want to personally thank you.

Over a year and a half ago, the EXACT same thing happened to me. Someone ratted me out in order to impress a particular garota that he had fallen madly in love with. In fact, I happen to know that they are married now and living in San Diego.

For me, the entire ordeal was HORRIBLE. There was a rampant rumor that I had been selling my photos to Hombre, which enabled me to purchase my apartment in Rio. Although it is so absurd, I still hear the rumor occasionally. It is all due to this one Ahole.

There are many on this board that actually know what this guy looks like and his name. But the reality is that there is little that anyone can do to stop such a person from squealing details about this board. This is NOT the fault of Hombre. He really goes the extra mile to limit our exposure but he cannot eliminate it.

And there is nothing we can do to stop it. I once was in one of Bobby's apartment last year, and I started poking around some of the drawers, and I found reams of Club Hombre printouts. Bwana's guide, trip reports, the whole shebang. There must have been over a hundred pages printed out.

I have also been in the internet cafe while some dude with a garota next to him logs onto Hombre and starts showing her around.

There is no stopping it and I am not even sure it is wrong. This is the INTERNET, where everything is public. This is part of the world of digital information.

Bwana, it is really not necessary for you to leave the board. Perhaps you should stop posting pictures, or even talking about garotas, but you have such a wealth of knowledge on life here in Brazil. I hope you reconsider. After a few years, it will all be in the past. Either way, I look forward to many more guitar jam sessions and chat sessions.

Your Pal,
BT

Sorry to see you leave Bwana but I don't blame you. If I was still working in the USA, I doubt I'd post on any boards. Maybe. I just hate assholes telling me what I can and can't do. Even when they started emailing the CEO and President of my company I still posted. No one tells me what to do.

Anyway, it's clear that CH has it's fair share of assholes. I don't post many photos anymore because of all these jerks. The board continues to lose the strongest contributors but honestly I don't blame them for leaving. The saddest part is that there is not a damn thing Hombre can do to stop it. It's not something like a slow server. It's assholes. You can't solve an asshole. They will always be an asshole.

Stay well and enjoy life. I hear you are also moving to South America. It's the best decision I have ever made in my life. I hope to see you sometime in the future.

Damn the A-hole. I live vicariously through you SA guys, and one decides to be a bitch and rat on you! The Mother F'in' bitch.

Where's my blow torch and lead pipe?!

A re-post from the SA board for the guys from the other boards:

On a flight to Rio in March, three guys were passing a copy of Bwana's guide around the cabin.

The general intelligence level of this board has gone down dramatically over the last year or so. For every UWPhoto or BullWinkle or Bluestraveler that we lose (Blues is still around but doesn't post a lot) we gain 10 fuckheads who are too lazy to search the threads to find answers to questions or think that they are Tuff Guy #1 (and there's only one of those, Milky!).

I've been on the board for over 3 years and while the first year and a half was almost all Mexico, the past 16 months has been mostly on the Brasil threads. I've met some of the Mexico guys - Borderjumper, Milkman, Ben, Sampson, Ejack, Daytimer and a few others. However, I know quite a few of the Rio crew fairly well. I've hung out with Bwana and a lot of the vets on the board and have found that most of the guys I've met are standup guys.

However, I have seen firsthand what rats can do. The Swedish asshole who outed Aldaron, Godfather's tough time and a few other instances are simply intolerable. Hombre and I discussed this topic a while back and there is no real solution other than to say goodbye. I have over 500 photos from Brasil but I've posted about a dozen. I doubt I'll post any more. I've generally stopped writing trip reports as well and I doubt I'll write any more.

I will continue to post in the discuss threads and chat topics, I will host my infrequent Brasil chats on Digichat and will still help newbies to a certain degree, but I think that I'll do what a lot of the vets are probably thinking and just stick with the guys I know when I'm on Rio time.

Another way of looking at it as some of us frequent posters have been nailed...my last trip while with a fav in luomo was asking all these questions..I answered yes there is such a site that protects us from the bad things in rio...I explained to her it was a good thing for her also as we also bragged on the great garotas and termas that treated us stupid americans decently..she agreed...said no to pics of course afterwards but was fine knowing a site existed...so denying it wont do us any good but explaining it makes sense to most of them...

The Chicas in TJ, and the Garotas in Rio, and all the other girls in the various countries that we visit all have one thing in common.

They all talk among themselves.

This site gives us a chance to even the playing field, by giving out the in's and outs of various locations. Guys we are dealing with prositutes. They are not virgins, you are not their first and only love.

Don't be a buddy fucker, if you want to cock block you buddy at a club here in the states fine, but don't fuck it up for the rest of us in Rio.

BD, we've never met, but I've always enjoyed your material, and don't forget, you promised to show me some things in Rio! Who knows, now that I am emerging from my mongering hibernation, that opportunity may come around sooner rather than later.

But I had a thought. There have been numerous discussions before on the differences between the mongering scenes in Rio and SE Asia. Among the most prominent is the fact that Rio has a far smaller, vastly more intimate scene, especially compared to the vast anonymity of Asia, and those conditions breed some of the circumstances discussed in the thread above.

Given that you are also a Thailand vet, you are well aware that many of these problems simply don't exist in that little corner of the world. Over my three years on this board, I have read many postings by Rio vets talking about this "outing" problem, and getting confronted by garotas. Not one time have I ever read anything similar posted by guys on the Asia board.

In light of this fact, might a compromise be in order to keep the living god that you are on the board? How about you continue to hang around, but report on Asia instead? You can decide what your comfort level would be going forward with your SA material. But obviously there'd be no worries from the Asian side. Hang around, dude. Murasaki thinks you're too valuable to lose.

Too bad. Everytime this happens it is a reminder that not all members of these sites are "nice guys". I wonder how they feel as they read our comments? Do they laugh or snicker? It is just a joke to them? Do they consider themselves "winners" and the posters here as the real "losers"? What's their motivation?

I can understand taking some print outs with you on your first trips. I walked around Rio with 4 different maps in my back pocket and I had several pages of terma information back at the hotel. But to show this stuff to one of the women is totally overboard. And I can't figure what the payoff is for those who do it. If you are looking for GFE you don't need to buy an "upgrade" by showing the women what has been said about them.

Bwana, what you chose to do in the future is your own business. I hope you take some time to let your anger work itself through. Your contributions here are among the best and it would be a serious loss to the site if you totally dropped out. Maybe you could continue but with a substantially reduced output.

I have never felt 100% at ease with the photo section and would not miss it at all if it was terminated. I also couldn't care less about specific names of garotas and how they were fucked in 14 different positions. Someone who makes a trip to seek out a particular woman based on what was written about her by others is either going to be disappointed or is sadly lacking themselves.

Why are we so hesitant to actually post the name and particulars of those violate the security terms of Club Hombre? Somehow I think possibility of getting your particulars posted would effectively deter such undesireable behavior. Oh and the sweet irony of the outer themselves actually outed.

BD, consider Mura's proposition b/c I tend to agree. I've been posting hundreds of pics from SEA and never had a probl., perhaps got lulled into thinking it wasn't a problem. Other SEA posters have been recently burned in Colombia as well. The only probls I've had are from Colombia, and I've read about similar problems in SA and Costa Rica in the past.

I have suggested Sao Paulo many times on this board. It's a big scene down there without the small network atmosphere of Rio where the whores are concerned. I really consider issues like these, Rio issues. This stuff would just not likely occur in SP.

I agree with MitchC, in SP or any other city for that matter outside of Rio, most girls love to pose.
I hope BD changes his mind too as he is very knowledgable.

Much has been said about the impact a weasel can have by sharing 'confidential' information on an 'open' board. Although I've never been a weasel, and never will be, I thought it might be productive to play devils' advocate.

Think about it...

You're a girl who for WHATEVER reason has decided to have sex for money. You don't want to be 'outed' in YOUR community for this behaviour. You agree to let a complete stranger take your picture of you, naked - even in the act of sex - only find out that your photo is now posted on the web, complete with your name, city, country and a wealth of other very personal information. "She gave a good BBBJTC", or "She has some belly fat after having a kid, and is a lousy lay".

You live with the fear that your family, your friends, maybe even your potential future husband now has to deal with the fact that you're a pinup queen on a putaboard. All because you fucked some guy twice your age, for chump change, and let him take your picture. This guy either didn't ask permission to post the picture, or said he wouldn't and then did so anyways.

We lament the impact that a weasel has on our 'private club'. The fact is that our board is neither private, nor is it a members only club. Remember, this is and always will be a public forum in spite of any security measures. As such, we need to make this board a viable, real time source of information that will help us AND THE GIRLS enjoy our hobby without fear of reprisal.

In short, for this board to continue to survive and thrive, we need our own ‘code of ethics’.

What should our code include? Consider this poll posted on our board by Play274 on 2/23/04:

Favorite Type of Trip Report?Poll created 02/23/04 by Play274
What is the favorite type of trip report for you to read?

Short, factual trip report 9% (5 votes)

Multiple photo-laden trip report 33% (17 votes)

Reports with many excruciating details (ie. hotel cost, taxis, chicas) 41% (21 votes)

Reports with the mongerer being taught a lesson (ie. Near death experience) 3% (2 votes)

Reports of the mongerer being a bastard and enjoying it (ie. womanizer/etc.) 11% (6 votes)


This poll suggests that the membership appreciates the posts which share details first, and ‘porn’ second. As someone who has posted more than my share of porn quality reports here, I’ve learned a few things. Let me explain…

Some of my first posts included photos and vids of a stellar Central American chica. I’m sorry to admit that I posted them without her knowledge or consent. Shortly afterwards, a ‘weasel’ spilled the beans on me, and this chica emailed me to ask that I take her pics/vids off the board. I wrote Hombre and he immediately took her media down from the site. You might say that I learned I should no longer post images without the consent of the model.

In the aftermath of this event, the weasel was identified and summarily dismissed from ever returning to the site. Problem solved? Not really. Because more ‘weasels’ continued to evolve.

To cope in this new environment, I began telling the ‘models’ that I would only post their images with their consent. I told them that I would let them look at their photos/vids and delete anything they didn’t like. Many girls enjoyed this, felt comfortable with me and my approach, and consented to my posting their pics under these terms. The result is that I have since not had a problem with anyone, nor have I had to deal with any fear of reprisal for my actions.

Being honest with the girls really is the best policy. But what about our interactions with each other?

At one point in my life, I took 31 trips in 36 months, and constantly posted my escapades under the handle of “DonGringo”. One day while in a terma locker room, someone approached me while I was naked and donning my terma robe. Slapping me on the back, he loudly exclaimed “So YOU’re DonGringo?!”, then proceeded to loudly introduce me to every one of his gringo buddies in the locker room and the boite/bar. I saw the looks on the faces of the garotas in the terma and quickly realized that my newfound friends’ impetuous actions were making me and many girls uncomfortable.

Since then, I have not introduced myself as DeeG to anyone, and prefer that my friends not do so either. I don’t publish my itinerary, nor do I share my personal information.

Does that mean I don’t try to contribute? No.

Does that mean I don’t benefit from other contributors? Certainly not!

This board is the best of its kind. But the days of indiscriminate posting need to end. To that end, I suggest we as members develop a code of ethics, and adhere to it. If the membership at large endorses certain standards of conduct, and requests Hombre to publish them on the login screen, we can keep this forum viable. To that end, consider this:

Sample Code of Ethics:

1.All board members are encouraged to only post pictures/vids with the full knowledge and consent of the model.

2.All board members are advised against sharing details of their personal lives with either the women, or other board members.

3.No member shall share private, personal information of either a girl or another member without consent.

4.The goal of this board is to provide the open exchange of information. We seek to improve the quality of our adult sex travel. At no time should the personal information of another member or a sex provider be shared or released without consent.

This is only a crude rough draft, but your input can improve it, and a we can agree on something as a board, perhaps we can get back to the business of exchanging information for the benefit of all.

DeeG

Photo: 2004 DeeGstyle

Even in Sao Paulo, the word is getting out. In the beginning of the year, I received an email saying that a brother of one of the girls in one of my reports about Sao Paulo had seen her and showed her photo to her. They knew my name, said they had photos of me, and knew a lot about me and could make a lot of trouble for me in Sao Paulo as they were well networked. Through a hacker friend of mine, we were able to trace the email to the individual who wrote it, and I confronted him head on. He backed off a bit, and then relented to just have me not use their real names, and to block out their faces. This I did, and they were satisfied, and the emails stopped. They said they liked the hobby as much as anyone, they just did not want the girls’ faces shown and real names used.

Just recently in Sao Paulo, I got some photos of a girl. She said I could show them to my friends, but not post on the internet. They are getting wise, so be careful out there, and enjoy the life.

Moondog

Cachorro de Lua.

Nice

Question: how DO Paulistas get tan lines anyways?

Nooooo!

I'm sorry to see you go, Bwana. You don't know it, but you were my guide to Rio almost two years ago. I'll be returning in a few months and had hoped to meet you in person. Oh well.

Wow Moon! What club did you grab her out of?

Bwana, I'm sorry to hear that you are leaving CH. I just read about it today. It really sucks that 1 asshole can screw things up.

Your experiences from Rio have helped me for a long time now. I'm so glad that I got to meet you and have enjoyed seeing you in Rio.

Mack

Bwana i am by CH standars still a newbie, but last year I visited Brasil for the first time and took your guide with me. It was a great inspiration and pleasure to have used your knowledge. If you need help in tracking this asshole or I can help in anyway, don't hesitate to ask. I don't stay in Miami, but I'm in LA. Jerks like that deserve to get the shit beat out of them. As another member mentioned before. We should help each other out and if anyone knows of any info on this guy, we should tell each other and make sure we do something about it. We need to back each other up.

Mitchc,

Bomboa

Thanks for all the additional thoughts, especially the ideas put forth by Murasaki, Mitchc, and DeeG.

I have always believed in the basic code of ethics that DeeG proposes. I have never posted a pic without permission. It's this fact that semi-saved my ass with my angry garota. She was less upset about the idea of CH than with the idea that men were dishonestly posting pics that girls thought were for private use. I didn't deny the existence of CH or my postings; I told her I had done nothing wrong and had only provided information that I believed would help guys have more pleasant visits and would, quite directly, have a positive impact on the incomes of many garotas.

I don't plan to change a single thing about the way I pursue the hobby. I simply won't post as Bwana_Dik any longer, and won't tell anyone who I don't already know quite well who I am. I will be back on CH under a new identity, but plan to keep that one as secret as possible so that I can't be outed, fairly or unfairly, while traveling.

I'll be back in Rio soon, and plan many visits in the future. Down there I'll be Bwana, and hope to see lots of you. But I will no longer provide the vermin hiding in our midst any ammunition to use against me, so no more Bwana posts (this really is the last one). I'll also keep traveling to other spots, and I agree with Murasaki, Mitchc and others that this is largely a Rio problem. So, I still look forward to seeing Murasaki in Brazil. Bwana's only dead here on the board...I'm anxious to continue my search for the perfect session, and will try to provide useful information to the CH community under my new identity.

BD,

One of these days I'm actually going to read your guide - I still haven't gotten around to it!

So, would you mind if I became Bwana_Dikinho? I understand this was you last post with that ID, please post your response with your new ID. Thanks
SL

SL

Bwana_Dik said: "I will be back on CH under a new identity, but plan to keep that one as secret as possible so that I can't be outed, fairly or unfairly, while traveling."

Need to work on those reading comprehension skillz...

E

Bwana we all have a lot of respect for you and I for one will always respect your wishes. Hope to see you again soon buddy. - Hemp

Sporto-Maybe Bwana-lickinho would be more appropriate

CortoGringo becomes Bwana_Lik...I like it!

wow, just reading this thread now...what a bummer...sorry to see you go, and bummed we haven't had a chance to meet up prior...now if i meet you in Rio, i may not even have the opportunity to know it's you, lol...I feel your pain on the "outing" situation...my first trip to rio was pretty much wrecked by some idiot printing out my reports and detailed posts/ pics for one of the girls in particular...it unfortunately caused me to keep a MUCH lower profile, and basically become much more of a lurker, which is a bummer...anyway, as with the rest of the guys, just wanted to thank you for the rio guide (invaluable on my trips...) and for all you've done to help build the CH community...sorry to see you go...