Hi all!
I see references to 'Carmen's' in Porto Alegre, but no address - anyone have any info? I also plan to visit Gruta Azul! Thanks!

Carmen is located on rua Olavo Bilac, 336
tel (51) 3228.7184/3225.8188
www.brasiltopmodels.com.br
Best is to call them as they have free shuttle from and back to your hotel. Lady owner speaks good English.
Beware of taxis outside Cartmens and especially Gruta, they do the bait and switch, you give them R$20 reais and they show you back instead R$2.

It's in Cidade Baixa, Rua Olavio Bilac, forget the number. Any cabbie will find it for you. Probably the best club in POA right now, Gruta Azul is overpriced.

In other news, everyone's favorite escort service - Amandas - is also in a decline. Try out brtop.net, good price and great girls, the "madam's" name is Bruna. "Ana Paula" (morena) is one of her top girls

When are you heading down?

BS

Carmen's web site (www.brasiltopmodels.com.br) is about the most useless I have seen yet. I hate it when people try to create works of art when they are supposed to be conveying information. I have no idea what the girls look like (except for a couple). I guess that's supposed to tease you into going there. So, I'll try it when I'm there the end of Nov., and report back.

Ana Paula looks nice, too, but looking at Jade gets my particular juices flowing--any info on her?

Thanks for the info, guys! I will be in Rio, then SP then Floripa and PA, back to Rio all during the 15-26th November. I'm doing something rather dangerous - I'm bringing my US ladyfriend - she wants to go shopping after she saw what I brought back last time - she's only staying 4 days, leaving me to play ( if I'm still alive after she catches me checking out the eye candy in Barra shopping and Rio Sul!)

Don't let her catch you looking--while she's shopping, go to a termas!

Also, you can check out reviews of escorts in POA and SP (among other cities) on http://www.gpguia.net. It's in Portuguese, but you can click on a line to get a partially and poorly translated-by-Google version.

I visited Porto Alegre earlier this year and had a great time, despite the fact that the offerings are much more limited than in either Rio or SP. One visit to Gruta Azul was one too many, but I fould Carmen's to be a great place. While I was there Golden Amanda had some incredibly hot girls.

I would not travel to Porto Alegre just to find women, but if you happen to be there it's easy to have a great time.

What/where is Golden Amanda?

Escort agency: http://www.goldenamanda.com.br

(Message edited by safado69 on October 13, 2004)

Thanks, Safado69, the Golden Amandas look very hot. Did you meet any that you recommend?

Ingrid Corrêa was fantastic. I also had a pretty wild session with Stephanye. The other garota I was with is no longer on their site. She told me she was in POA for just a month or two, visiting family.

Tia Carmens is far more popular among the locals than Gruto Azul. (And EVERY cabbie knows where it is) Of course some Gruto Azul girls hang out in Tia Carmens too. I had one ask me for 400 Real's, and when I offered her 200 (about 50 more than I offered any of the other girls working for an hour upstairs) she introduced me to her skinny ugly friend. I walked away.. They have a RULE in Carmen's the girls are not suppossed to approach unless waved on - good rule. Most of the ones I was with would blow you without the condom. (3 out of 4) One even swallowed my load in the shower. If you are old and fat like me, try the less than gorgeous looking girls, they tend to have less business and be more enthusiatic on average. The gorgeous simply do not have to try so hard, there is a line waiting. Most will take 150 reals to go upstairs. Unless they were bad, I was tipping them all another 100 reals. I am a jerk, true, but this is small money for me, and they are really fucking happy when you show up again..

Vegas,

I know you're new and everything, but a cardinal rule is no tipping GdPs beyond the negotiated price. You're just encouraging potential bad behavior.

To Catocony,

How is tipping a girl who does not know you, and whom you will never bang again going to encourage bad behavior? She should not expect it, that is what makes it a tip. Are you fearful they will start demanding it? Not as long as the majority don't tip they won't, and the majority won't tip.

As for being a newbie, to this board I am. As to mongering, I might have a few years on you, I am almost 50....so tipping them is my way of saying, this means a lot more to you than to me, and I think you did better than the minimum required. It makes me feel good. It makes them happy. Sorry if it bothers you.

We've likely all been with whores we regret, as well as girls we may remember till we die or get senile. I say, let them know they made you happy when they go beyond the norm. Thanks alone doesn't cut it. If we don't tip, why should they do any more than just lay there? After the initial money has changed hands, what's her motivation?

That's my opinion and I'm keeping it.

Sincerely,
Mr. Vegas

Do some reading of the threads and trip reports and maybe you'll understand. What is your experience in Brasil outside of POA? Your explanation of tipping sounds like something that may be relevent in places like Mexico but certainly not Brasil for Thailand or the PI or the other major destinations. You say you tip afterwards, but then say your rational to tip is so they don't lay there. That makes no sense, since they aren't expecting a tip, according to your logic you would have had a bad lay in the first place.

Your comments about why you pick less gorgous girls also makes no sense. Selection should be based on looks and how the conversation with her in the boite goes, not just pick the lesser looking garotas because the pretty ones have a line waiting, which with maybe two exceptions I've never seen in Brasil. Also, since POA is virtually gringo free, the customers are close to 100% brasilero, and those guys don't wait in lines for mediocre service, regardless of how hot a garota is. I've seen plenty of ultrahot garotas sitting on their asses for hours, trying to get a program because they insist on restrictions like covered BJs or no anal. I've seen marginal looking garotas do back to back to back programs because their service is greater than others.

As far as the last line in your first post, of course they're happy to see you show up. You're the guy who'll pay R$250 for the same thing or probably less than what everyone else pays R$150 for.

I'm not attacking you, it's just that your first post seemed to indicate a very inexperienced Brasil monger.

More importantly, the price of all pussy goes up when they see us coming.

Case in point, I was living in Rio in the 90's when you could get an all nighter with a hot girl for $25.

Just looking at inflation, the price today should be about $75. Now tell me where you can get an all nighter in Rio for $75. No way!

I go back to Rio every few years, Gringos drove up the prices to about $200 or maybe even $300 for an all nighter. All because we "Tip". Tipping is bad, just say NO!

Go to local establishment and see what the Brazilians pay. HALF...yes HALF! Even in Rio.

Don't add stupid to old and fat.

Now as far as your take on gorgeous girls vs. plain girls. I understand that. The 9's and 10's in Rio are the worst in bed. Give me a solid 7 or 8 any day of the week.

(Message edited by sniper on May 29, 2006)

All nighters in Rio should run from R$200 - R$300, so at the current exchange rate, from about US$90 - US$145.