"...we are the only ones who will pick you up off the sidewalk in front of Help without taking your watch - so show a little respect, fucktard."

ROTFLMAO!!! But true.

Wow these pics are unbelievable quality, thanks for shading some light. I will reread my cameras manuals and look into these speed whatever.

Athos,
Thing is, you need good lenses. Then you have to decide your preference for depth of field or sharpness of image. Good photographers will often bracket their shots--take several shots with different aperature settings--in order to give themselves a choice after the photo session.

Reading the manual is a good place to start, but what you really need to do is get a good camera, a few good lenses, a shitload of film (again, film speed and characteristics affect photo quality in a big way), and start experimenting. Rather than reading your manual, buy a decent book of 35mm photo techniques. It's worth the investment. And now you can actually buy some pretty impressive SLR digital cameras that use standard optics and give you much of the same flexibility you have with a 35mm.

Let’s try this again.

I read 100s of posts and you all had this great opinion about the termas or sex shops or whatever you’ld like to call them. Basically, they are whore houses. The girls CANNOT sat no and all charge the same price. At Help the girls charge different prices based on some criteria perceived or real. Have I offended anyone yet?

From Help they go back to my apartment where I can turn the lights on. At the whore houses we go from a dark room to a smaller dark room. At the whore houses all the girls have panties and bras on and they have no room to really dance. At Help there is a big dance floor and a Samba dance floor in the other side if it’s open. Hence you can see the girls dancing. Plus, at Help they have the chance to dress-up in sexy cloths.

Now you think there two places are alike? And that a man’s appearance means nothing. In other words you could be unshaven, unwashed for three days or wearing your sleek cloths and after shave and there’s no difference. Well., you all are wrong. I JUST WANTED TO TELL THE GUYS WHO HAVE SOME STYLE THAT IT GOES A LONG WAY IN HELP.

If you all want to tell them it doesn’t matter, then great. I was a gentlemen with all the girls I was with and the only time I was rushed in Rio was at the Termas. Otherwise, I had some of the best sex in my life with girls ranging from Los Angeles 5s to 8s. And regarding my numerology, I based my numbers on a LA scale not an Ohio scale. An Ohio 9 is a LA 6 or 7.

The funny thing is you know I’m telling the truth. Sitting in that 100 sq ft Terma room with ten naked guys in robes and 15 girls in panties and bras wasn’t my style.
Now going home with a hot girl after a few drinks, turning some cool turnes on dancing while a peel her cloths off, the kissing and eventually having amazingly passionate sex under the circumstances is what I’m talking about.

Help is fine, but the Help sex/routine takes far too long for me. I'm there to get drunk and bang lots of hot chicks on a limited time schedule. I will often pull out of Help and find the quality there to be good, generally. Running around mid-afternoon/early evening tipping bottles, smoking cigarettes and banging whores is my idea of real fun. Cool tunes, dancing, etc... with love in the air back at the apartment is just not a wise use of my very limited vacation time.

I don't remember being rushed at the termas in Rio. Maybe the girls rushed you because they didn't like you. Just a thought.

My thoughts - Roblaw doesn't like termas because he needs the illusion that he isn't banging a prostitute. Either that, or the garotas in termas did say no to him. Hey Rob, remember, even the smallest termas have 30 girls working at the minimum, so they can and do say no to guys they don't like - for whatever reason. You can't make a garota go to the room with you, and if you walk in and don't shower and clean up a bit, or if you're a complete fucking idiot, only the dregs will come up to you. You can't go to the desk and say "I want to fuck such and such but she won't go with me." It's not slavery, guy. Of course you don't need to wine and dine them, that's the point of a terma. The girls are all selling, the guys are (usually) all buying, and it's a mechanism to get the two together in a safe, easy and discreet environment where you can pick and choose.

Also, your point on bikinis (girls in termas don't wear bras and panties in the boite). I don't think I've ever met a guy who says "I prefer to have the girl fully clothed when I make a decision". Hey, guy, don't you think you stand a better chance of picking a body style/color that you like when the girl is in a bikini than bundled up under clothes? Totally illogical on your part, unless, once again, you need the illusion that you're not paying for the girl. I've met guys like that, they only like the restaurants and clubs because when "they" pick up a "girl" - and guess what guy, they pick us up, not the other way around - they aren't really paying for a hooker, they're hooking up and later giving the girl a present.

Whatever works for you. I have noticed that, at least in Brasil, white mongers and black mongers tend to go about a lot of things quite differently. While we all do the same basic things - termas, clubs, escorts, etc - my observation is that black guys are a little more into the club/restaurant scene, while your average white monger is more into termas and pre-arranged programs at night and on weekends with terma girls or escorts. I will say though that regardless of color, I don't think I've ever met a guy who didn't like termas.

By the way, to get back on the topic of termas, what garotas tend to do to a guy they don't like or don't want to really session is, they get a room and then give shitty service. Or maybe they'll scam you a bit. Ever hear of the Lidocaine Dick trick? In the room they'll rub a little lidociane or another topical anesthetic on their hand and rub it on the guys dick. The result? Near instant loss of hard-on, and your dick will stay soft until the lidocaine wears off. Remember, with a cabine you pay for time, so if you can't get it up, too fucking bad for you.

It is funny, your description of a terma is unlike any I've seen. What 10x10 room were you in? What is this constant bullshit about light? I would consider the light in a terma to be better than Help or outside at night. Fairly strange.

Hey Roblaw....

In all fairness, I can agreed with you about some of your comments related to HELP. However....you should be careful in your selection of words. If you didn't like to travel and meet women from different countries....you would not be on this site. Am I correct?

As one member quoted to you"

"Your attitude that you don´t have to pay for it, is a typical manifestation of some, but is not one that most want to hear about. The range of mongers include lots of people with substantial jobs, financial resources and other outside attributes that are beyound the stereotype. They are usually not discussed because at the end of the day, no one is here to play ¨"I´m better than you.¨¨

If you read back on some of my posts about HELP, I made similar assessments about HELP....BUT, I didn't recd any rude comments in return. Just the opposite, I've recd compliments about my pictures and other members seeking angles on how to meet some of the women I met on my trip.

In addition to this, I didn't attack any other member by making rude comments about how certain mongers may enjoy his stay in Rio....such as frequently going to Termas. Different strokes for different folks. Some of us may enjoy nite club/disco/party scene that HELP provides....some of us may not!

I spent quite a bit of time in HELP during my month stay a couple weeks ago and I do agree appearance does make a difference with some of the girls. But these girls are trying to make a living and at the end of the day.....MONEY RULES. Despite your looks, I do believe you agreed these girls wanted to make some quick cash....regardless of how many orgasms they had!

I spent a lot of time with a lot of CH members during my stay in Rio. You will not believe how awesome some of these guys are! I thought I knew it all....I'm 36, a lawyer from Chicago, financially secure...and I have been TOLD by some of the CH members I "dress to impress" and have "above average looks" and was a "chick magnet" in HELP. Nevertheless....I am still in Rio for the same reasons they are.....I LOVE beautiful women and where else can you enjoy more women than you can handle...WITHOUT THE ATTITUDES AND DRAMA from girls in the states...than in Rio, or Thailand...etc. But despite these so-called qualities that you initially bragged about....I needed the advice and assistance from members of this board.

Now...do you understand my point!

And trust me when I tell you this.....these guys will give you the last dollar in their pockets, will be in your corner when no one else in the country may care OR simply be there to give you a helping hand when you really need it! Remember...we are a very small minority in these countries and this makes our friendships that much more special! I'm not trying to sound corny...but being for REAL!

Yes...we all have EGOs, but we know how to check them at the door!

One last thing and a joking side....everyone can talk a good game....but we need to see some pictures! As you will find out...no one on this board believes TALK....we heard it all! If you want to earn points with us.....you have to bring on them pictures and then let us be the judge! Now...if you were able to wine and dine these girls...and bring them to multiple orgasms...and have passionate love making sessions....And not be able to turn on the charm and get pictures.....then something's wrong with this picture! Are you holding out on us?

Any other member...just click on their names and you will see the fruits of their labor....now...ITS YOUR TURN! Post those pictures! LOL!

As one who does not post pictures for personal reasons, I must tell you Priew100 you sound a bit to my ears a bit like Roblaw2, especially also taking into account your self-congratulatory comments about your own looks, grooming, financial status, etc. There are many types of information that can be useful to the members of this board, and I would hope that the huge amount of time I have spent providing INFORMATION on Sao Paulo and other locations is appreciated by this community more than your narrow view would suggest. Whether Roblaw has posted pictures or not is so far removed from the problem most of us have had with his posts that to bring this subject up in the manner you have (suggesting only those who post pictures are providing useful information) strikes me as just another offensive post to add to this thread. And note you said "joking aside" before making your picture comments.

(Message edited by LAguy on March 26, 2005)

Hey everyone, I just saw my future ex-wife, she is in "Priew's Rio 01" and "Priew's Rio 02" - she's off limits until I soil her and she takes half of what I own, k?

(Message edited by defconsul on March 26, 2005)

I hear you Laguy, right on with the comments about personal looks, financial and grooming status. Hell, everyone knows I am a rich handsome bastard, so why say so here? Some guys...

Defconsul....As soon as spends all of my money...you can have her, okay? LOL

LaGuy...Chill out, I think you are taking this personal. I agree, this website has a lot of useful info, outside of pictures. I can personally attest to this, because I used it.

But let's be honest....the majority of the members here LOVE pictures!

Moreover....you clearly mis-read my last post! I made it clear that this website has a lot of good members and that is was not a good idea to make rude comments about people....you may need a helping hand with later. As far as the "self-congratulatory" comments you alluded to....these were made my other members & posted on this website! My comments were ONLY meant to show Roblaw that that this board has a wide variety of members....from rich to poor, ugly, fat, playboys, lawyers, salesman, unemployed, self-employed....you name it!

Furthermore.....my post did not indicate "joking aside"....it stated "a joking side". FYI...it was suppose to be a JOKE!

Anyone that has met me in Rio....can attest to my character! I travel to meet beautiful women and enjoy life....and in the process, met a lot of good characters from this board.

Priew

Well, tell her to save some of your money - I like to eat out at the fancy churrascarias, and no pinga here - I like the high-dollar stuff. then she can use my money to take moondog out ;>

Defconsul....the girl in "Priew Rio 01" would not let me take any pictures of her face but she was very beautiful....and as you can see, a body to die for! If you're interested, I do have her cell #. She used to work at 4X4....and now she claims she is an independent and only works outside of her school schedule!

Roblaw-
It's now time to cut your losses. No matter how you try to re-phrase and/or re-frame your commentary you continue to come accross as condescending and pompous.

Priew100: I did read your "a joking side" as "joking aside" plus a typo and apologize for mis-reading your intention in this regard.

LaGuy....no big deal man, I'm not here to make enemies but trying to connect with guys that are interested in going the same places I am....and of course.....meeting BEAUTIFUL WOMEN.

Anyways....If I see you in Costa Rica, Thailand or Rio....the first drink is on me! (Unlike you...I have not travelled thru numerous countries like you....but I'm trying!)

Roblaw; If you are going to fly thousands of miles and spend hundreds of dollars on a vacation to Rio, you should make the most of it.

Obviously for you it's the FANTASY of picking up a hot girl at a dance club. Just remember it's a fantasy called "Help".

For some members of this board it's a fantasy of duplas and more, for that it's a fantasy called 4X4 or L'umos.

Just remember why there is a Club Hombre.... It's to share information about prostitutes. Not to try and claim that your a better man.

RG.

I agree on most of the scorching taking place here, but let's note -

There are very few 8s and 9s in Rio. There are very few 8s and 9s in any city, in the world... Beauty (whether "universal" - whatever that is - or "subjective") is IMO best modeled as "normally distributed" - a bell curve shaped distribution. Thus, by definition, there are a ton more 4s 5s and 6s then others, add 3s and 7s, and when all added up, there really aren't many 8s and 9s relative to the quantity to others. Maybe that's what he was getting at?

To each his own, everyone have their likes and dislikes.The beauty of Rio is that you have many options.Since I've been going down to Rio, I've met dudes who loved termas only and hated Help or vice versa,or like most of us all of it.

The termas are cool because you can kick back,have a drink and just choose a girl.Its hassle free as far as negotiations,taking a cab to whatever loc(apt,hotel/motel),girls identity(age),and theft(etc).I like the termas especially when I just want a quick hit(40-60min)or two.Even though looks are subjective,there are usually more better girls(age,body,looks)than at Help.Although the girls at the termas can choose who they go with you are more likely to get who you want there (considering she's not busy)than at Help.Plus the girls at the termas seem to perform more acts than the ones from the other locations.As for the lighting it may not be great,but when a girl is damn near naked I can see enough to convince me.The only down side I see to the termas is the limited time with the girl especially if you meet one you like, but then again you can always get a phone number and meet her later(if she's down for that).Also when you get one she can be hard to ditch when you come back to the same terma,especially since there ain't that many places to hide.

Help is cool for hanging out at night,but can be a pain in the ass(imho).First of all I semi agree you should look/dress semi decent to go out.Im pretty sure it can make a difference in some cases,but these are ho's working for money.Based on some of the fools I ve seen in Help,as long as you've got $$$ and are willing to pay,you can get almost any girl in Help.I have given up on dressing up real nice to go to Help,it might impress a small bunch,but they r more impressed with the wad in your pockets.There are some bad ass girls in Help who would rather leave solo than go down in price and I doubt if your looks or game can change that.Anyone who thinks they got these ho's figured out especially when you are coming out the pocket,paying more that 150-200r,is a fool(IMHO).

I admit sometimes you meet some girls there that make you forget that you are with a whore.Once in a while you can find a good one like that in Help more so than in a terma(IMHO),which is why I like it there at times.But in the end it all comes down to$$$$$$.Not your game or looks.

I gotta agree with Cat about the Black/White thing,although it doesn't apply to everybody,I kind of notice that too.The Brothas like to dress like they want,hang out and party with the girls as opposed to the terma scene.The Help/rest scene is more similar to what brothas are used to.When you take a girl to your room you can play ur music,your liquor,chill out,take photos and hit the girl as long as you can.You usually don't get that in the termas rooms.

It appears that the white guys are into the termas more,but thats just an observation.I'm pretty sure there are plenty of white guys,who do the above too.Im not saying that all blacks do the above,because personally I being black myself prefer the more low key approach,but based on speaking and hanging with many brothas down there,that generally seems to be the case with a lot(especially these days).But like I said in the beginning to each his own,the most important thing is to have a good time no matter how you do it.

P.S although its been said before,I just wanna repeat it; LEARN THE LANGUAGE.You don't have to speak like Mr Lula but at least the basics if you can.I've met dudes who been going down for years who can barely get past the greetings.Although in this game $$$ is the best language,but being able to communicates makes things a lot better and maybe lead you beyond the Copa triangle eventually.I see dudes who want to hang out with the girls beyond fucking,but cant speak to the girl at all.It looks kind of awkwards seeing some dude and garota sitting around together not being able to communicate.Unless you just wanna fuck them only and\or stick to the english speaking girls, try to learn some of the language if you can.Although I don't have a lot of time to do so,I try to learn as much as I can to get by,since I go down often,so why not.

Sorry for the long rant,but I'm bored.Gotta go plan my next trip to the promise land hopefully soon..Have fun out there and be safe. Tchau

Defconsul said, "Well, tell her to save some of your money - I like to eat out at the fancy churrascarias, and no pinga here - I like the high-dollar stuff. then she can use my money to take moondog out."

It's fun when the garotas and chicas take you out. Defconsul, pay them lots, then I can afford to go out with pretty babes on my arm.

Enjoy the life,

Moondog

Robo-boy

I'm increasingly convinced that you've never been in a termas.

One: the girls can refuse to session with a guy if they don't want to do so. The management doesn't encourage this, but I have seen--on many occasions--termas garotas completely blow-off guys they didn't want to be with.

Two: dark room to dark room? Where the hell have you been going? First off, yes, some of the bars in the termas are dark, but no darker than Help. In most of the termas there are places you can take a girl where there is lots of light and you can check her out; L'uomo has a relax room as does MC, 4X4 has the upsairs bar which is better lit, etc. Additionally, in all the termas I've been to (which means practically every one that exists or has existed over the past decade in Rio), you can control the level of lighting in the suites/cabines. Some guys and garotas like the lighting low for mood, but some garotas turn 'em all up because they love to show off their equipment.

Three, there's no room to dance in the termas? Well, not for the guys (these are not dance clubs; go to Nuth or Bombar if you want to dance), but the garotas manage to find ample space to dance in the termas. I've had some memorable evenings in termas watching a group of garotas get into dance contests and really show their stuff in ways that I have never seen in Help.

Four, the "clothes" thing. Well, to each his own, but the outfits in the termas often seem pretty sexy to me. It seems to me like you want to pretend like you're Mr. Stud, who wanders into Help (oh, it's not a whorehouse, it's just the biggest putaria in Latin America) and uses his game to pick up some really hot, high class garotas. They're not like those low-class whores in the termas. They're not prostitutes; they're just regular girls who you give presents to after a few hours or an evening with them. Jeeeez!

Five: a guy's style goes a long way in Help. Bullshit, bullshit, and more bullshit. I've seen guys in their 70s with good-sized beer guts and baggy clothes pull complete stunners out of Help. And I've seen some euro-trash dressed in $1K suits walk out empty-handed because they acted like...euro-trash. What goes a long way inside Help is attitude, language ability, and cash. Style's not a non-issue, but it's down below those other ones.

Six: Sitting around with naked guys wearing robes...huh? Am I missing something or has the definition of "naked" changed? Many guys actually enjoy the comraderie that develops in termas. Termas can come to seem like your friendly neighborhood bar, with benefits. L'uomo is my "Cheers."

But it's fine with me if you don't like termas. To each his own, and all that. But you needn't be an arrogant prick in order to express a preference.

So, I'd encourage you to never go into another termas as long as you live. You'll be happier, the garotas will be happier, and most of us mongers will be happier.

Paz, amor, e um grande abraço, meu amigo.

Flhobbyer,

Speaking of bell curves and normal distribution, an interesting point I learned in undergrad that applies perfectly to mongering: curves are always skewed one way or the other, and sometime the axis are not fixed! I think that once you become accustomed to your data pool - as all of us who have noticed and posted over the past few months have - your curve does become more normally distributed. Try telling that to the guy on his first trip, who's used to fat-assed non-dick-sucking gringas or whatever they've been humping up till then, and he walks into a terma the first time or two. His perception is skewed way, way to the right and all he sees are 8-10s. We've all felt that way, the girls always look better on the first trip than the second, they always look better on the first day than the tenth day.

Bwana i think it is obvious that Roblaw is a farce. Thank you for setting the record straight for those who might still believe that Roblaw is for real.

And if you continue to be such a layabout and put on any more weight, I promise to yell "Norm" the next time I see you stroll into Luomo.

DG

I don't know Dongringo. If Turk5555 could be real (and he was) there is always a chance Roblaw is too. Maybe GCL finally had his bukkake with Christianne (or whatever her name was), Turk5555 found out and became so unsettled he gave up his monogamy vow, and in his unsettled insane state reappeared as Roblaw. Stranger things have happened.

Roblaw said: "The funny thing is you know I’m telling the truth."

The real funny thing is this guy doesn't have a clue and he thinks he knows the truth.

To the other hombres, I would receommend leaving this guy in his own little dream world. Let the Darwin effect works its own course.

====================

Now, Epi, LAGuy and others, I have a 20D also and I have met some hombres here that are enthusaist photographers. I am thinking we need to start a photograpy forum. It would also be fun to organize a hobby trip with a side theme of doing studio and beach photography, for example, with a few fellow photo buffs.

(Message edited by sex_junkie on March 26, 2005)

(Message edited by sex_junkie on March 26, 2005)

Might have a party for a friend coming up soon - I might take you up on getting her number - I can work around her school schedule ;)

Sex Junkie: I was actually thinking the same thing, although I am afraid I may be the laggard when it comes to photo ability. Maybe that will change with a little bit of time and effort though.

I like the termas. I'd rather be able to see the merchandise before I make the purchase. Also, that is where your game really does work. Think about it, you are in a robe they have no idea how you dress whether you wear $500 Bally's or just run around in flip flops. I remember running into one of my terma favorites at Help and having her comment on how she had never seen me in clothes before.

And girls don't have to go with you. I don't know how many times I'll be sitting with a girl when her friend will come over and hang with us so a guy that she blew off by saying I'm with someone else can see she is with someone else.

Many times I have left Help with what I considered to be a stunner only to have them undress and see stretch marks, sausage tits, a gunt and all kinds of blemishes all over their priviously covered skin.

Oh, BTW - I made most of those comments about Priew and only because it was true. I'll also throw in that I never saw the guy dressed down even during the day. Usually what he wears at any given time costs more than most mongers pack in their suitcase for a 10 day trip. Except for the doo-rags. The guy is like Elvis with the scarves except he leaves a doo-rag with all that he conquers.

Deeg, hate to spoil it but he does exist and was last seen leaving Help empty handed... he he!

Also, two garotas were seen running away from him in Help and he actually chased them.

There are other funny stories guys shared with me about him but we can save those for other times. I never met the guy but he professes to know me real well????

I think the point that is being lost here, is the fact that Roblaw is from S. Cal. His comments are sooooooooooooooooo S. Cal'ian. I live in Las Vegas. This city has been besieged with S. Cal'ians and the majority of them have that Greater Than Thou attitude. When I originally read his report, I thought how familiar this all sounds. One of those Socali type. He cant help it MOST OF THEM ARE ARTIFICIAL JERKS.

"This city has been besieged with S. Cal'ians and the majority of them have that Greater Than Thou attitude."

Ummm - that's because we ARE...

"MOST OF THEM ARE ARTIFICIAL JERKS."

Just because there's more silicon in Los Angeles then in the REST OF THE WORLD doesn't make us a group of artificial jerks. Hell, we also produce your porn and have MANY hot hooker/strippers that end up exporting their services to your fine city. You should be THANKING us. I think our contribution to the world is evident.

E

Hi Epi, You have a great sense of humour.

This is not my argument but as a newcomer to this site I was rash at first myself. However, by taking the time to study the site and its Members properly, in a rational light it tends to put things into a very different perspective. Friends that I just met on this site have been very welcoming and have given me invaluable advice. They didn't have to but they chose to. Guys maybe king of their turf, but as newbies just joining CH, we have to be humble and realise we are the new kids on the block, (as my American friends would say). As a newcomer I'm impressed with this site and its Members. I find a little humility goes a long way in life.

Hey! Let's go easy on the SoCal trash talk. There are a lot of us on this board from SoCal. And Epi is right. We produce the women with bad attitudes that other places have the bad sense to import.

Sandman, you'll have to tell me some of the stories when I get into town.

I met the guy last week in Rio, he is for real and just as he sounds in his post....

Gentlemen,

This is my first post although I’ve been a member for several months now. Let me first say that as a sports-fucking sex addict, I truly appreciate everyone’s input. The information provided the willingness to share it, and camaraderie I feel on this board goes a long with me. It’s always good to know that your not alone I guess. A very good friend of mine and I will be in Rio from April 5th – the 20th. It’ll be my second trip in as many years and his first. It would be an honor to meet up with anyone in town then.

I’ve been to Thailand three times since 1999 and to T.J. dozens of times since the early 80’s. I’m fluent in Portuguese and have been aware of Brazilian culture all of my life as I was growing up in California’s Portuguese immigrant community. I always was very attracted to Brazilieras but never knew anything about the countries sex scene until I found you guys. Let me tell you that if I could, I’d move to Brazil today and never look back! Rio has ruined me to American women.

I’m 42, average looking, and just lost 33 pounds on that low-carb. kick. I add that not because it matters in our hobby but just because weight has been something discussed in this thread, and also to let you guys know how good I feel in this achievement. Yes I suffer from low self-esteem but it was also getting to the point of being a health issue. In my day to day life, I don’t go out on dates often or have a girlfriend. At this point in all honesty, I find that it’s more effort than it’s worth. I’ve never been good at it, and I’ve always ended up hurt and I guess I’m really afraid of that so I’d rather just pay for sex. I find it safe to be with gorgeous, sexual and emotionally unavailable women. I get lonely for intimacy at times I guess, but that passes and I’ve got good friends to get me through. I’ve been reading this thread over a morning cup of coffee and although I hate to admit it, laughing at Roblaw’s expense. I guess it’s because I can relate to the ego or at least understand it. At one point in my life, when I was a decade and a half younger, I could have been considered an “ego-manic with an inferiority complex”. It’s stuff that I’m working through today. Everyone’s responses have been great. Now here are mine from the little experience I’ve had in Rio.

The Thermas are great! Help is great! Bunda is great! Two Bunda’s are even greater!! I’ll be posting my adventures while I’m there.

Fadista

P.S. If you guys can direct me to any girls that can really make my toes curl I’d really appreciate it.

DTR

Sometimes it's just a matter of people getting used to you. There are PLENTY of "caustic" personalities here (myself included) and we all have different ways of spewing our brand of vitriol.

Once you get a feel for the board (and folks get used to you) you'll be one of the many characters that inhabit this corner of cyberspace. Don't sweat it, research different people and their posts (clicking on their name or doing a discus search) and toss in your few satong when you get the urge. Just remember that posting on CH isn't a contact sport.

Looking forward to meeting you this summer. Right now I'm set to land in BKK on June 10th. We'll go out, grab some BBQ in front of NEP and bullshit for a while.

E

OK, first let me apologize if I offended anyone on this board because that was not my intent. I respect all the opinions on this board for their variety, experience and I hope honesty. I’m a big guy and have no problem taking the heat.

Now let me clarify what may have been misunderstood. Before I left for Rio for my first time, I read about the crime, saw some so-so pictures and a few hot photos, posts about how Rio has the hottest hot girls in the world, not over paying at Help and the like, so I didn’t know what to expect. I know I saw Rio at first from an American point of view. I tried over the eleven days I was there to try to see it from a local point of view. I learned about Brazil being a very oral society, how having sex is less important even to the so called non-working girls, and the overall difference in the man-woman relationship in South America. Hell, all you have to do is listen to Tom Lycos and his take on South America, how Washing 9s and LA 6s, and the whole spoiled American Gril sysdrom and you’ll get where I’m coming from.

What I found was the SEX was of course about money, as it is in the Sates, but it was not ONLY about money, as it is in the States. I’m sure for enough money a girl, MAYBE, would do anything, like some very weird fetishes but then again there is free will and some girls just won’t do anything for a price. These girls are anything but stupid so they know quoting 600 for the night just about closes the negotiations and the guy goes on to greener pastures. In fact some girl asked for $400 American before going down to $200 American and I left telling her she was crazy. She was a part timer and I never saw her face again so maybe she just didn’t know the going rate but just speaking of getting paid in dollars was enough to push me to greener or let’s say less green but more attractive pastures.

My main point that came off the wrong way as all girls are clearly not equal, all men or mongers (or whatever you want to call guys who are willing to pay straight up for sex as opposed to the pay as you go or pay let program we have here in the States) are NOT CREATED EQUAL. As far as the girls taste in men, I learned they hate Italians because they‘re cheap and try to trick the girls into doing all their friends for the price of one guy. Portuguese men come second in the hate category because they demand peak performance for their money and have no respect for them. Americans are next in because black men have a reputation of going to the hole hard and work their bodies, which some just love and some aren’t into, American white guys are arrogant or snobs like me but pay well and we are the targets for aver paying.

As far as preferred men, Japanese men are great because they are known for small dicks and taking it easy on the fucking and only cum once I’ve been told. Chinese are in the same category. French and Nordic are at the top of the list because it would seem because of the appearance, light skin and although not an easy nights work, but since their culture has a better acceptance of prostitution they seem to be more respectful of the girls.

The bottom line as we all know, however, is this is about the exchange of money. So money rules the game and it’s just a matter of how much for how long and for what.

I love America and am American 100% and as an American I boil everything down to money. And although that may be the case, it’s not that simple in Rio.

The point of my post was to try to get some guys to see the Brazilian culture and how it interplays with the girl sin Rio for which there are many different levels of sex for money, just like here in the States . . . women use sex for money. Just in Rio, due to the culture, sex or having sex has less value and money actually has more or less the same value. As I get to know Brazilian culture I hope to understand this relationship better but one thing I know is my American values do not nor should they transpose well upon Brazilian culture. When I was in Rio I herd of girls doing one guy a month or having a guy pay all her bills for being on-call for him, then making some extra cash part time, then the are the hard core girls, the girls that do the Favellas in the day time and Help at night, girls that do night cubs but want the shopping trips and the like.

The BOTTOM line is Rio’s culture is more likely to be up front about sex for money and sex period. It’s different, great and wonderful and yes I like the GF experience and liked Rio so much I’m going back in three weeks for another 14 days trip

Apoligy accepted Rob.....But I will say at least your post brought back dozens of responses..I think it great to discuss these matters...So I guess my next problem will be to overcome the steriotype with the brazilian ladies that Im gonna try to beat they pussies up......

Back to the So. Cal bashing...I must admit...Vegas was always a nice place to live....It became great when all of the So. Cal ladies started moving here

Hope to see you the Roblaw

Roblaw: I'm so impressed to see you are such a quick learner. It usually takes most of us much longer to figure out definitively all the ethnic and national stereotypes that are floating around among the working girls of Rio. My congratulations on a job well done!

Rob, you answered your own question - you have been to Rio all of once, for eleven days, and you decided to argue with a bunch of guys who have been going to Brasil for years. Everyone can state their opinion so no need to apologize for that, but you simply do not know the ropes in Brasil yet. I take it you don't speak much Portuguese, so you either picked up your info from other guys or from English-speaking garotas, who are always suspect. Who the garotas favorites and least favorites are depends on who is in town. When the Euro is strong like it is and the dollar weak, the European guys are the pick of the month. Other times, other guys. The end result is that the most popular guy is the one with the best offer to the garota in question. If you go back to Rio in the future, you will most likely begin to develop friendships/relationships/whatever with a garota or two. At that point you will start to discover what the game is really like.

A lot of good feedback for you, Roblaw, from some of the great guys on this board that make up the community of Hombres. I'm glad you're finally listening, swallowing your pride isn't easy.

Sorry to be so late in joining the fray, I'm a little out of touch on my maiden voyage to Thailand, I'm busy figuring it all out so I can tell the guys how it's REALLY done here.

Hunterman

I know this is your first trip to Thailand, but I'm certain you'll be able to give me the "real deal" upon your return. My last few years were a complete waste - I need someone like you to set the record straight for me. Thanks bro!!

Seriously though, I'm looking forward to your report.

E

I don't know about you guys but threads like these can be quite entertaining and provide good info sometimes,just to break up the monotony.I gotta admit the Turk/tour guide battles were classic comedy to me.I felt like a Brazileira watching their novelas.lol.

Anyways debate and discussions are good as long as we can all respect each others opinions and stay away from the insults/flame.We are all here for one common purpose,its bad enough we got to hear negative comments from our fellow non-mongers and these B...ches here.

One thing Ive noticed since I started mongering, is that most of us get along much better in foreign coutries than here in the US.Ive met a lot of cool dudes in Rio and everyone seems more willing to help each other out.I don't know maybe all that F...ing brings out the best in us..

Peace guys and be safe in the mean streets of Rio...

Hi Hunterman, you have given me some sound advice about CH site etiquette. Thanks you are a gentleman to take the time to do that. Funny thing was I posted up some rash stuff after a bad string of nights on the Chang beer!

By the way as for you being "a little out of touch" isn't that a lot to do with the Harem that you are building! You have more appointments with BKK BG's than the local hospitals.

Meanwhile, I'm left wondering whether my apparently lame attempt at humor was too obvious or too subtle.

This has been a fun thread in any case.

Thanks for the pics Epi.

Rob, much, much better. Everybody obviously has an opinion and it's been my experience on this site, though brief, that all opinions are respected (with a few minor exceptions). I don't believe it's so much a matter of what you say, but how you say it. Hope to catch up with you at some point in our travels.

I'm trying to learn more Port and it's a bit easier for me because I speak good not great Spanish. In fact, I was studying tonight for my return trip on 4/15 to 5/1. I'm taking a old friend this time so it will be back to the termas at least three to four times in 14 days. The only thing I'm not going to do is kiss the girls from the termas. The rest will come out of Help, the beach and I'll try outcall now that I can speak some Port.

This time I have to try VIPs with my bud and 4 to 6 girls. I decided not to take two girls back to the room because from what I read here it was too much risk on getting stung. I tried to put a day at VIPs together when I was there but it didn't seem to work out. I saw the pictures and the place and it looks off the hook.

Good point on the currency exchange rate . . . I guess if it was 3 or better to the dollar 200 to 300 is just that much better.

However, the Italians still use the Euro and they are the most hated of all in Rio. In fact, when I went up to the girls I'd say Neo Sou Itlaiano . . . sou de Estades Unitos and it helped. The one thing the girls do know is money and we Americans still take the cake in that department no matter what the exchange rate is.

Anyone got any pictures of Karina (a hot bod short spinner) or viviain (a hot spinner blonde)?

Thanks for all the input . . .

Robert

RobLaw,

You most definitely have to do the VIPs Festa. It was an amazing experience. I cannot wait to get down to Rio again to have another.

If you are having problems getting a Suite set up, talk to some of the Veterans who live there and they can help you get things squared away.

There are also several places here on the board that have instructions on all that you will need. Bwana Dik's Guide is excellent, and there is a Festa section you can find under topics, Rio. Good luck. It is unreal how much fun a Festa is!