My girlfriend and I are within a few days of booking our airfare to GIG and need a little help with a few remaining questions. We've never been to Rio together but have traveled to other mongering locations together. We have decided we want a large apt in Ipanema near Copa. Our thinking is we want three bedroom so we can keep our stuff in our bedroom and not let anyone in there. We'll use the other two bedroom to play...sometimes seperately. We are more into luxuary than budget accomodations. Any suggestions? We are planning to hire Don to help us as some of our "wants" require some expertise we do not current possess. If we want to have a fiesta at the Millennium Suite does anyone know if Don can take care of that including arranging two shifts of ladies for me and guys for my girlfriend. She is not into women and will want her own fun...what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Lastly I think it would be fun to meet some of the guys I've come to know through their posts and reports when we're there. Do you think we would be welcome to hang with the crew that's there at times? I'm thinking along the lines of dinner, cafe in front of Help, a beer or two at lunch that sort of thing. She won't be going to any therma's with me since she isn't into women. Last question. Do you think it would safe for her pull guys from the beach area after appropriate screening to party with us(her)? I'll always be around even though she may be in a different room for safety reasons. We're we'll meet a lot of fun people and throw a fiesta toward the end of our week. We're going in April after the high season rates fall. Thanks

One important thing to remember - if you're hiring garotos for your girlfriend, keep in mind that their normal customer base is gay men and that from various reports bareback assfucking seems to be the norm. While I'm sure they'll fuck a woman - for money they would fuck barnyard animals without thinking twice - keep in mind that they are certainly not the most safe-sex-minded guys you'll ever meet.

Again, from advice on your previous threads - think swinger clubs for the GF. Meet some couples there and they will surely not have a problem meeting up afterwards at your place for a festa.

Figures, I'm sure Don and I can help you find something, but guys are harder to come by. If it can be done, we can do it for you. The swing clubs are a nice option, and also, in Luomo, if your girlfriend sees a guy she likes, you can invite him and a couple of girls into your cabine, I believe. I think I witnessed that a couple of weeks ago...

And, if we have to, Don and I will personally volunteer ;)

That is what I like about you Ken, you are all about servicing the client. Dont forget about Colombia. AZ

Giblet,

I was going to volunteer that perhaps members of the Club Hombre crowd would be available to screw the girlfriend, but never in my darkest thoughts would I think to volunteer any of the upstanding employees of Amerioca Tours

Figures, in three years I have met a few husband/wife boyfriend/girlfriend teams. In most cases the gringa was bisexual, so hanging in termas and doing the more-or-less standard scene with the guys was fine. A certain doctor with a former porn-actress girlfriend and her friends come to mind when I think about larger group activity as well.

In the one case where the girl was straight, there were a few reasons why she had no interest in the Hombre crew. One, she was really ugly and had a general weirdness around her, which kind of turned everyone off. Second, she disliked our use of the term "unit" to describe various GdPs. Finally, the fact that a couple of the guys had no qualms about discussing various sexual activities, and the numbers of women we have been, with in front of her gave her the false idea that we were sexual deviants of some sort.

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Azguy -- well, you know, we do bill ourselves as a "Full Service Travel Agency..." And I will definitely see if I can make it to Colombia. Don's travel plans have yet to be finalized, so I'm not sure.

Catocony -- now, WHERE ON EARTH would anyone get the idea that you were some sort of "sexual deviant?" Simply because you like to point out every woman who walks by with, "Yeah I did her. She was a three-holer... Not too much on the blowjob, and she wouldn't let me come in her mouth, but her best friend can do this thing with her tongue..." If I were you, I would be outraged.

Figures, how long will you be in Rio, Diversity and I will get ourselves on the next plane just to be withg you guys (and your GF)!

Figures-

If your gal is halfway good looking she won't have a problem getting non-pro Brazillian men. Horniest dudes on the planet.

CB

My GF will have no trouble finding as many brazilian guys as she wants as she is better looking than most of the programma girls I've seen on this site. Our concerns are unique to a couple wanting to sample Rio's sex scene. Things like finding an apt large enough to allow us both bedrooms and one we don't allow others in. Safety concerns for her are another. Something none of you have had to deal with most likely like if I pull girls from an agency and she has men she met to a fiesta will they interact without problems. We do not want to go to a swing club. And she will not have any trouble attracting men. As I said before she isn't into women so we won't be going to a therma together. But we do want to have mini fiestas with men for her and girls for me in our apt. Hope that clarifies things. I emailed Don but haven't heard back from him. I sent a detailed email asking for apt info and guide help with this. Is he really hard to get a hold of or what? This is the second or third attempt to get him. I've also tried calling the US phone number several times.

Figures,

Since there aren't any female mongers as members here, we're sort of short on information on where to pick up putos. I will give you one cautionary tale.

I was staying at the Visconti in Ipanema about two years ago and there was an attractive Australian girl staying there. She was traveling with a friend and was just hitting clubs and restaurants in Ipanema. She met a Brasilero on the beach and he invited her to dinner. I was entering the hotel the day of her big date and she was telling the front desk this story about how she loves pulling "local boys" wherever she goes, etc.

Anyway, I see her the next day, and she had a huge bandage on her forehead and a nice shiner on her left eye. It seems that her "local boy" had invited her to dinner, then to a club in Leblon. They never quite made it to Leblon, since he made a detour to where a couple of his friends were waiting and they basically beat her over her head and stole her shit. She was pretty clueless, and dressed to impress her new friend - nice rings, necklace, earrings, etc. I asked the concierge what the deal was and the bottom line was, a couple grand in jewelry, a few hundred dollars from her purse plus credit cards, ATM card, everything but her passport, which she had left at the hotel. She was probably very lucky she was raped and/or harmed further but still, she was really beat to hell. Not a nice way to spend a vacation.

What is my point? I would be extremely suspicious of random guys you might meet. Also, if neither of you speak a word of Portuguese, keep in mind that the guys down there speak even less English than the GdPs that we're after. Be extremely cautious in taking guys up to your apartment, especially more than one at a time. The same thing goes for garotas as well, unless they are terma girls or work for an agency. There have been many instances of garotas robbing guys and of their friends doing the Brasilian version of a home invasion and robbing you as well.

I'm not joking about the guys for hire, either. While they won't rob you (most likely), they will be predisposed to fucking you instead of your girlfriend! They fuck guys for a living, so remind your girlfriend of that before the festa starts. As for mixing and matching GdPs and gay escorts, I wouldn't think there would be a problem there since the girls are only there for you and guys are for your girl.

And not to bash, but as far as American women in Rio, she won't compare to the Brasileras. I don't want to burst your bubble but every American woman I've met down there including American porn actresses tend to get a little intimidated by the overt sexuality of Brasilian women. As those of us who are Rio vets can testify, Brasilian women fuck like no other form of woman on the planet. They're a couple of notches above the second-place batch, so while it might not happen, don't be surprised if your girlfriend gets a little pissed and jealous of you with the garotas.

Great post Cat. to tag on what you said, most of the pictures of the garotas on CH dont do the girls justice. Before going to Rio I looked at every pic on CH and was shocked when I atually got to Rio. They looked far better in person (and not just because my cock was in them). Also, its not just what they do in bed (which is incredible), but just how they present themselves and how they are with you. God I miss Rio. I hope the girls in MDE and CTG can ease the pain. AZ

Figures, getting ahold of us by telephone is very difficult. Right now, with daylight savings being opposite down here, we are 3 hours off the east coast, and 6 hours off the west. By the time it's a decent hour in California, we are out showing people a great time. Mornings are reserved for apartment bookings and such, but unless you get up at 6AM, you're not likely to get ahold of us by telephone.

And, as you may recall, I personally answered your emails previously with regard to your particular needs for an apartment. Given your fairly rigorous requests, I think we responded in a timely manner, and with an apartment that fit your requirements at that time. Don and I have been working hard to make sure that you two have exactly what you're looking for in terms of accomodations--as we are doing for many other clients at the same time.

I got your latest email yesterday evening. It was too late to contact apartment owners and see what might be available to suit you. We don't respond until we are sure we have something solid to offer you. We also have large groups booking for Carnaval right now and we are running all over Copa personally checking out apartments for them. After that, we show guys around town. It's a little hectic right now. I promise I will answer your latest email today, which will be less than 24 hours after it was sent. I pride myself on answering emails in as timely a manner as possible.

Look forward to meeting you. You guys are going to have a great time.

Ken

This is MS. Figures. I wanted to say hello and thank that you all for being helpful, and taking the time to try to answer our questions.

I appreciate all of your concerns about gay escorts. I have heard from very reliable sources that male escorts that service women are available … yep… straight guys that fuck women for money… Lucky Bastards, huh?

As far as the swing clubs… we can ( and do ) swing at home… that is not of interest for this trip… much prefer to pay for play… less complicated ( and less talking ). And I’m straight, so joining my honey with the girls isn’t of much interest. I really don’t want another woman’s hands anywhere on me. I’m sure that some of you homo-phobes out there can relate to that, right? LOL And let’s see… that leaves watching him with the girls… hmmm… I’ve seen him screw so many other women, that’s sort of like watching grass grow at this point… been there, done that. I want to have my own fun too.

By the way, Catacony… I’d be willing the bet that some of the ladies in Rio have been ass-fucked bareback as well… I know I have ;) And is it legal to fuck barnyard animals in Brazil? I’d be interested in seeing that. As far as offending me by talking openly about sex… don’t worry about it. “Unit” I’m cracking up... yeah… I know women AND men that would get pretty offended by that one. I’m no one to call someone else a sexual deviant… if I did, it very well might be a compliment. LOL From what I’ve seen, some men get pretty offended when we women talk explicitly about our sexual adventures too… so maybe it’s just the human condition. It sounds like the straight girlfriend you were talking about had some serious issues with the environment she was in. I’ve seen a lot of women NOT enjoying the scene in other places. By the way… those women didn’t like me either. Haha The story you shared about the Australian lady is exactly my concern with non-pros. Being that far away from home, I’d like to be able to track down the guy if there should be a problem. There’s more accountability with pros. So while picking up non-pro guys at the beach seems to be the easiest answer, IMHO there seems to be more serious safety issues that way. Besides… with a pro, I can be more… um… selfish… demanding… not sure of the right word there, but I’m sure you get the idea. Furthermore… I’m not interested in dinner and dancing… I’d rather do that with my honey. I’m glad to hear that Brasileras fuck like no other woman on the planet… that means my honey will have more fun… hmmm… maybe I do want to watch??

By the way… he didn’t mean to make you guys defensive about how attractive the girls there are. I’m sure they are beautiful – my honey just thinks I am too… Funny how a few blowjobs can do that to a guy? LOL

Oh Copabrasil… I’ve been called a lot of things, but never ugly ;) Horniest dudes on the planet, huh? Now that’s definitely something for me to look forward to ~!

Thanks to all of you who have volunteered your cocks, but you speak too much English…LOL Seriously… (No offense intended) but screwing American guys in Brazil seems like a terrible waste of a plane ticket to me, so fucking the Hombre crew wasn’t really what I had in mind, unless it was… oh, nevermind. ;) However, I will keep an open mind if one (or more) of you interests me. Of course… I’m sure you’ll be busy you’re your own interests.

Thanks again to all of you for trying to be helpful… I realize a lot of our questions can’t be answered in this forum. Still we appreciate you all taking the time to write about what you know.

Oh... and Ken… Thanks for sending the email today. Lots of great info~~! We’re talking about moving the dates up to the end of March and staying longer. My honey will write you about that. We appreciate all your help… looking forward to the trip.

If any of you guys will be in Rio the end of March and feel OK about hanging out with a couple like us, let us know.

Obrigada


(Message edited by figures on January 22, 2006)

Cat makes a great point with respect to security. I think a good pick up spot would be a high end club. Nuth Lounge in Barra or Baronetti for example. Any guy who can afford to get in a nice club plus has the correct ID/paperwork to get in...well, it will definitely screen out many of the bad eggs..

Remember, many Brazillian men are fascinated with foreign women just as we are...

PS-I suggested places to pick up non-pro men because like Cat, I would be REALLY leery of putos in Brazil...both from an STD standpoint and a security standpoint as well...this especially applies if you are staying in an apt. vs. a hotel... You guys have some logistical issues to figure out, I would make sure you have enough time to get oriented.

My wife and I arrive April 13 for 2 weeks. See my post on Rio for Swingers. I have the same questions as Figures above. My wife has been Rio with me on my last trip. We went to L'homo three times which was the only terma that would let her in. We also have had girls to the room but like Figures says we are looking for some clean safe good looking guys for her to party with. Any info on if Figures was successful would be greatfully appreciated. Any names and addresses of "Swingers Clubs" in Rio?

Don and I can attest that Figures and Mrs. Figures were both very successful in their pursuits. According to Figures, she was having more fun than HE was! There are certain rules you'll want to follow, but I don't think they ever felt endangered at all. They had a great time. You may want to consider sending Figures a PM, I'm sure the Ms. would be more than happy to provide you with some info. Or if you'd like to shoot us an email at riodon@gmail.com, I can provide you with their email address.

Ken

A few tidbits for those of you who may be considering traveling with your wife or girlfriend...ignore the conventional wisdom. We are a couple that have openly talked about the advantages of enjoying the the hobby of P4P together and in spite of those who can't imagine that something like that could even be possible...we have found it rewarding. I would encourage the use of Don and Ken as guides as they bust their asses to see to your every need. Be nice to Roberto if you happen across him. Ok here is my experience. If you want hers just ask. I was disappointed in the caliber of women in Rio. After pulling women from Karla's, CIA Plus, and Company Girls I can say none of them would allow greek with ne. We thought the people were friendly and the food was off the hook so we're planning a trip back in a few months to Sao Paulo maybe a short jump back to Rio so my other half can see a few of the guys she missed hooking up with. In the future I will will not leave to chance who will actually show up at our door as my experience was they were always not what was advertised...think heavily photo shopped pictures. Ok so I'm picky. For the most part I would pass on Rio as the sessions were so so and the women were below my standards. I can HIGHLY recommend Don and Ken from Americoa for anyone that wants help with your planning. Thanks guys for all your help and all the effort you put into our trip. All in all we had a great time and the best thing that came from it was my other half is very excited about our new hobby. If any of you have any help you can throw our way about high end talent in Sao Paulo please help us. As we only choose to play outcall I'm assuming my best bet is to research high end garotas with reviews and face pictures even if it costs more per session. I'm more into quantity than she is but I still have my standards. Maybe next go around we'll post a trip report but we haven't exactly been welcomed as a couple with open arms on here. For those of you who are curious my other half has a string on brazzilboard... http://www.brazzilboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=625

Some parts of the string are informative for those of use who albeit are out of the norm (a couple) but some parts of just stupid. Guess that's about it. If you're a couple or a woman asking about how to deal with the P4P scene in Rio please don't hesitate to ask...if you're a guy please read the string referenced above before posting and try to understand just because we play in the P4P arena doesn't give you the right to be disrespectful. Next go around...pictures and a trip report.

hi... Ms. Figures here...
If your looking for goodlooking guys that escort in Rio... This is the best "in" I could find...
http://www.geocities.com/riomodels/riomodelsHome.html
Some of them speak a little English, French, or Spanish.
they all have personal contact info there.
Also... this guy...
http://www.geocities.com/riomodels/cesarHome.html
but I think he's in Spain right now.
If I can answer anymore questions, let me know.
Have Fun!

"Ok here is my experience. If you want hers just ask. I was disappointed in the caliber of women in Rio. "

Wow you are the first man Ive ever heard say that , sorry to hear you didnt enjoy rio , you said you only do outcall so maybe you didnt go to any termas thats where most of the stunners are , I agree that the agencys have some dogs , but they have some cuties as well , good luck in SP

Figures and Ms Figures,
You might consider going with independents rather than agencies. I have had some fabulous luck pulling independents from places like Riosexsite and Hotside. PM me if you'd like more info.
Enjoy!