REALITY CHECK:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news.....I know this has been posted and discussed many times.......I have overheard conversations at restaurants from other mongers who have had similar situations......some guys have walked away from marriages.....some have borrowed money from their credit cards.....some have gotten themselves very deep in debt.....lives ruined...hearts broken.......and a few curse words.....all for the mis-belief of what they thought was love............



I have a good friend who was engaged to a girl from Rio....gave her a lot of money, bought her many nice gifts, jewelry, gems, clothes.....anything this girl wanted.....all in the name of love.....He planned to move to Rio and live happily ever after....He paid her money to stay off the program, he gave her a ring.....and later he finds out, that 10 days after giving her a ring....she is back on the program.....now some of you may say: "What is he nucking futs?"

He would call me and tell me that he just received an e-mail from this girl……6 months after their split…..Then he would call me and say he just received a phone call…..several months later…..Then she sees my friend and I in Help, sees the girl I am with and connects the dots….Now she is friends with my GF…….

Then about 1 month ago, my GF calls me and tells me that XXX wants to talk to my friend….I ask why and supposedly it is to say she is sorry…What did she do, lose his number???? Lose his e-mail address or forget to tighten the string on the 2 dixie cups…..

Last week, I am talking with my GF and she tells me that XXX is crazy, she likes the program and that she has 2 (yep you read right) TWO FIANCES and TWO (2) RINGS from Gringos…..She proceeds to tell me that all this girl wants is MONEY ($$$$$) and that she is crazy……Naturally, I tell my friend and say aren’t you glad you cut her loose and are no longer with her…..

What does he do???? He e-mails her and asks her why she wants to see him when she has TWO FIANCES (I hope you guys are not part of this board)……

“Seu 2 fiancees (novios) não como mim conversa a você. Sabe fidelidade
e amor?”


Within 5 minutes..she sends him 7 emails…..I will post these below….These are not for the weak at heart…..and I suggest you put a blanket on….These are COLD.


No you can still exit this story without reading if you so choose………remember, I warned you……….and remember, this is what RIO is all about.

First Response (no not a pregnancy test):
“Subject: you crazy!

you very crazy you dont know noting aaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha”

Second Response:

“Subject: you ar crazy!


who spoke for you that I have 2 fiancés you this maluco! why you are
inventing fiancés for me you you know the truth you nao you know of
nothing!
You do not know of nothing on Brazil you you think what,, that the
Brazilians want you for love you have that to go behind a Brazilian of
its age why you know very well that nor a new Brazilian goes to want to
marry you why you is very old! you wise person of this I never would go to be happy to its side why you he is very but old of whom I! Dinheiri for me does not mean nothing! I do not need money to be happy... I need a man who likes me and has the same age, not of old a rich one, wanting to buy me with its equal money you... If you to be if entrometendo in my life I go to give part of you in polices ok! Since you do not want to make program with me not to be speaking that I have 2 fiancés why he is not of its account ok! safada!”


Third Response:

“Subject: ah ah

What you think that the Brazilians want with you that already she has
a certain age? love ahahahah you know very well that she is not possible I am being very sincere with you you and its friends I have penalty why is being been deceptive vocês is many old ones to want a love of new Brazilians...
vocês has that to go behind somebody of its age. You never go to be
happy thus wanting very of a Brazilian! Anuncer that you pass everything that you have for my name ai yes case with you aahahahaha... you who go to arrange somebody that likes you here in Brazil never why in Brazil alone it has people here that it thinks about money why does not have a good life!
I never would marry you why beyond you to be older you he is old very
flat....Se I I was you I would go to look woman in another country why
in >Brazil you only go here to give yourself very badly!”

Fourth Response:
“Subject: not your problim my life ok !

You entereça my life you did not help me why you it wanted. one day
who knows I will be able to return the money that you gave to me and very goes to be in briefing with certainty Por that I do not feel myself well with the money that you gave I sincerely does not feel will to me to deceive you but you it gave to the money and you very to me wise person well that I did not like you. Why when agent loves agent does not treat our love as I treated you, you wise person very well that I did not like you... I I know that you is a wonderful person but I does not stop and yes to marry my mother.
You know very well that I nâi loved you! All its friends spoke for you but you he did not believe why? I do not want that you if goal in my life if I have 2 fiancés I am not its problem ok! E if you to be ordering and mail for somebody speaking of me I go to take off you copy and to lead for polices why here in Brazil this is not legal, but does not want to make this with you why you it helped me very and with certainty one day I go to bind for you to return everything to you that you gave I to me is a Brazilian but I have shame in the face but it has many that does not have.... does not forget this ok... does not know what you come to make here in Brazil you go to spend its money in another place of the world with friend advice why you do not go here to arrange nothing that gives!”

Fifth Response:

“Subject: you are idiots and you like to be!


Why you do not have capacity of you arrange somebody to be married why
you already he is very old until the Americans does not want you for love you yourselves counted that its last namorada one waited you to pay silica and later finished everything with you, you to me remembers you knows that this everything who I wrote you is truth but I wait that you does not have anger of me for counting everything to you on Brazilians. Its friends all are idiotic also equal you why you know that everything this is truth ahahahah!
seua friends never goes to be happy with Brazilians why all like
money, for me love are not money, for me to love is to respect to want this with the person loved with you I did not feel this wanted but fast that you it was even so for being free of you why you it is very flat silmento not man taste silmento....Você and its friends without exception are all deceived by Brazilians and you they know very well and dissimulates that they do know why they are idiots.”
Sixth Message:

“Subject: call me if you want talk to me about every think!


if you want to know way i m do that to you !!!! I hive money to your
best friend XXX you know that! ask to hi way hi do that to you becouse hi like your money you dont know noting in brasil you best friend like all you money ahahahahahahahahahahah and hi day to you hi want help you becouse all the brasilian likes money hi like your money toooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry”

Well Jag, I hate to be the bearer of bad news……This probably is true with MBL as well….and you thought she just wanted you for your mind…..

The cold hard facts about these girls from Rio….They 0nly want you for your MONEY…..

Remember, if they were in the US….we would call them “TRAILER TRASH”. They are uneducated, poor language skills, smoke to much marijuana and outside of basic conversation would get old in a few days…..Always remember this saying: No matter how beautiful you think that girl is, no matter what you are willing to give to be with her, someone, somewhere is tired of her shit…..

Tough post to write, but alot of truth rings here.However, I love brazilian women, and will probably marry one some day. But I wont meet her outside of Help.

W5

And do you really think the above scenario is that much different to thousands of other stories that abound about P4P girls right around the world?

I currently have 2 girls in Beijing whom I fuck every time I go there - 1 is engaged to a German guy - the other is MARRIED to a German guy living in Beijing - I met both girls at 'famous' hooker establishments in Beijing PRIOR to their hooking up with current fiance / husband.

I have another girl in Angeles City in Philippines who I fuck and who is 'officially' retired from the scene as her 'lover' also from Australia is supporting her financially so that she does not have to work.

I also have a couple of girls in Batam in Indonesia who are currently living with their 'caucasian' b/f's who also slip away and fuck me in my hotel when I am there.

Yes I pay them well - I treat them well - I met ALL these girls prior to their current 'domestic' situations - guys WAKE up it happens EVERYWHERE and ALL THE TIME.

Age old story - you can take the girl out of the 'hooker scene' - but yoiu can NEVER take the 'hooker scene' out of the girl!!!

(Message edited by BadBoyBilly on May 17, 2006)

So I guess if you are an old(er) American you shouldn't plan on finding much in Brazil?

A good read on this subject is a novel called Private Dancer by Stephen Leather which can be downloaded on Pattayapages.com. BBB, I agree..happens everwhere all the time.

I guess its a case of don't confuse your hobby with real life. Anyone looking for love with a pro is asking for trouble, these girls are all damaged goods in one way or another. Any guy that thinks he can have a real relationship with a working girl has seen Pretty Women one too many times. Have fun, enjoy yourself but when you think your buying real emotions for a few hundred Reals a day its time to get your head checked.

no, I am not the old(er) American being referenced.....

Many of us know better, but you always hear: "I am different, or my situation is different."

In my business, I can show and prove that the company is in code violation....and the response I always hear is: "we have been operating like this for 30 years and we have not had a problem yet." Usually, within a few months, they have an accident and now safety is all over their ass.

This scenerio depicted above is played out every day, and everyone of us is subject to it......

Keep it simple, rent it, and when you are finished return it....you are not going to save these girls....

Diversity,

How the hell did I get pulled into this fucking fiasco? Christ, the last time you and TheRightWay went at it, MBL became the booby prize and I had to stand up and defend her. Looks like this is going to be Chapter Two, entitled "MBL's Honor."

Her defense:

Shit, I'm only 26 years older than MBL and she tells me that "its the perfect age difference." She says she loves older men and I'm positive that she wouldn't lie to me. I'm also sure that she will love me as long as Western Union's still in business.

Actually, many board members have been present when MBL told me that she loves me for my intellect, not my money. I even asked her if she would be with me if I didn't pay her. Her answer: Yes!

Come to think of it, I believe Catacony was even present during one of her emotional outpourings at Terrasco. She says she loves the many ways I make her laugh and yet worry her at the same time.

She says that being with me is like a mother watching her child playing at the ocean's edge; Mom enjoys watching the child amuse itself yet always worrys that a wave will take the child away. I haven't quite figured out what she means by that, but as you can plainly see, she has very deep feelings for me.

The Defense rests!

Jag

"Actually, many board members have been present when MBL told me that she loves me for my intellect, not my money. I even asked her if she would be with me if I didn't pay her. Her answer: Yes! "

Put this to the ultimate test: one year with nao dinheiro from the Jag -- just intellect.

i do not care what you call your little thingy.....trigger.....pistol pete....now intellect?????

of course she loves you and the ben franklin, and andrew jackson and grant and.......and....she does not want your money....really....just keep her full of shrimp....

Soccer,

God, you have such little faith in my ability to gauge the depth of her love for me. Your lack of confidence in me hurts, but I'll get through it.

Okay, just to prove I'm right about her, I'll send her $2000(USD) right now and not send her anymore for a year just to prove my point. You'll see--I'm right!

Jag

Diversity,

Actually most girls nickname my thing "Thor" because when I'm finished making love to them they always say, You make me, Thor." They could really be saying, "You make me sore," but I prefer the first way; it help build my confidence more.

Yeah, MBL really loves Ben Franklin a lot. I told her he was or sixth president, which could be wrong. I think he was either the seventh or eigth one, but I'm not sure about that. Fuck it, she couldn't care which number he was, just so long as she got a lot of reais for him.

Every time I go to the supermarket and see shrimp, I think of her. She told me today that the diet is working--she's lost 3 kilos so far. I hope that's equal to about ten pounds because that's how much she needs to drop. After she told me about her dieting success, she asked me when I was going to be back in Rio. No doubt, so she could fill up on those fucking cameroons or however they spell it in Portuguese.

Hey Bwana, you never told me how to get that squiggly think over letters. I asked over a week ago. Not knowing how to do it only makes me look stupid and we don't want that, do we? Please tell me how.

Jag

$2k? -- to her that's a paycut. I still don't think her love of your intellect will last that long. Boa sorte.

Sorry to intrude, but I think it is unrealistic to look for a relationship with a hooker, or attempting to win a girls heart with money and gifts. I think we all deserve someone that truly loves us. I feelt the best way to go, is to look for non-pros, I am sure there is a special someone for all of us.

Juancarlos2006,

I married a non-pro and look at what it cost and where it got me.

Jag

Thats true...juan! Its someone for special for all us. Essentially, the rio chicks are toys..and we keep those in the playpen.."rio"

Personally, I'm surprised that anyone here is surprised...

This is a news flash?

Honestly, if you're not pulling hot 19 year old ass in the states, why would you think that they're all falling in "love" with you down here? Really.

It is what it is. Personally, I think the girl was completely HONEST at the end--it's only "cold" if you had your head up your ass to begin with. And if you're passing out money and expensive gifts like it's water to you, well, WHAT IN THE FUCK do you expect a girl raised in the slums to do?!?! Fall in love with you? Because of your money?

I'm not trying to be harsh, but really, what in the fuck did you think it was about?

Look, there are a lot of nice, sweet, cool girls down her--I personally think Brazilian women are the best in the WORLD--but MAYBE 1% of them are going to say, "Look, don't spend all this money on me, because I don't care about you."

You KNOW they're whores. You KNOW what they promise, you KNOW how they make their living. It's YOUR fault.

Check yourself.

"The cold hard facts about these girls from Rio….They 0nly want you for your MONEY…."

The cold hard fact is that it doesnt matter where you go. There are people out there all over the world who are interested in your cash. On a mongering trip, you have to be cautious not to enter into any type of relationship, social or business.

Lets face it. When you go to one of these countries, you are more vulnerable then when you were back in the states. Your guard is down because your having a good time and getting laid every night.

The friendships you formed over there, the relationships you established, are all best left over there. If a guy decides to take it further then there is considerable risk involved.

A guy who decides to enter into marriage with anyone has to be able to face financial and emotional ruin. At this point in my life, at least, Im not willing to accept that risk.

Rent by the hour; don't take out longer term leases, and for goodness sakes don't even consider buying.

It ain't love, it's lust. It's not affection, it's sex. It's not emotion, it's acting.

Jag,

I missed your request about the "squiggly thing." Sorry, but I'm a Mac guy, and Macs are capable of using multiple language sets that are much simpler than with Windows machines.

Então, sinto muito, mas não posso te ajudar, Jag.

OTOH, if you use a Mac, I can easily tell you how.

BD

Jag

Money, intellect, love lust, affection and all this time I thought the ladies of Rio had a thing for pink polo shirts.

It’s a matter of love, they love our money we lover their bodies. Everything else is getting fair value for cash outlaid. Those guys who think there is more to it then this are deluding themselves.

On the other hand…

Bwana Dik,

Thanks for getting back to me on that squiggly thing-a-ma-bob question. Bluestraveller was kind enough to PM me with a full set of instructions on how to do it. Since I have difficulty following the instructions on a soda machine, I might have to turn to my oldest daughter for help. She's the one who's extremely intelligent and well organized, just like me.

I can't believe these fucking instructions he sent me: Go to Control Panel. I took the case off the fucking computer and still can't find anything that's labeled "Control Panel." WTF is he talking about? Oh well, in about three hours my big girl will awaken and help me. Look forward to seeing little squiggly things in my next report.

Jag

Jag:

"..took the case off the fucking computer..." Hahahaha, you shouldn't be allowed even NEAR a computer, to speak nothing of left running around Rio unsupervised. Well, you know what they say, God looks out for small children and idiots. We're safe for now...

Abração, meu velho!

BS

I used to think that all Jag needed was adult supervision 24x7. Now, I think he's about ready for a nice, cozy padded room in a semi-lockdown environment. If it helps, we could put some pics of MBL on the walls.

LIfe-size pics of MBL. Make sure there's extra padding behind MBL's tits, and he'll actually be happy there and you won't even have to lock the doors.

Jag,

Did you get all the characters working on your keyboard?

BT

Bluestraveller,

It was a horrible experience yesterday. I've never seen someone in their early twentys almost have a heart attack. She went ballisic when she saw what I did to my computer. Shit, it's my computer so I should be able to play with it any way I want, shouldn't I?

Apparently all of her songs (11,000 of them)and records are stored on my hard drive and she thought I fucked it all up. She screamed and yelled at me just like her Mom, the Bitch. Then she brought up that horrible incident that happened years ago. Essentially it concerns my attempt to fix the weed wacker. She used this as an illustration of why I shouldn't try to fix anything just like her fucking mother used to do. Bitch, bitch, bitch!!It's not a funny story so I'll spare you the details. Take my word, it's immaterial. Where was I....

Oh yeah, now my oldest daughter isn't talking to me, which is good news, but and the only damn thing I can type is: à. I don't even know what that little thing over the "a" is called. I still can't get that fucking squiggly thing-a-ma-bob to work either. I think I might need help.

Oh yeah, before I sign off: Fuck you Badseed, Cat and Hunterman!!!

Jag

imho life of man is to endure pain. To be thankful for those few sunny days, if ever, whenever they come. the imagined love of a whore, a good roll of the dice, nothing lasts forever. One should try his best to roll on.

The little mark over the vowel in portuguese and spanish is called an accent market, and it is used to indicate that that syllable should be accented. If you have everything working now. Try these key sequences:

~ + a = ã
' + c = ç
^ + a = â

And so on. It is really pretty straight forward once you get the hang of it.

One day you will have to tell me the story about the weedwhacker.

Jag:

"Fuck you, Badseed"?!!? Such love! Anyway, you wouldn't like it, I still have all my teeth, unlike your usual namoradas.

Beijundas!

BS

The problem with these girls.....the drama never ends......my buddy who received these emails was sitting at TA....when the roomate of his ex hands him the phone and it is this girl on the phone......These girls will always throw chum in the water to see if we bite......

btw.....what are you talking about willis??????

i received the following text messages from my gf the other day:

Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:12:11

From:
Subject:

(Eu amo voce)Good night my love, saudades muitas.


Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 19:23:28

From:
Subject:

Good night my love. Muitas saudades estou contando os dias para ficarmos juntos, te amo mais que voce ja sabe, voce e minha vida, estou cansada de sentir

Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 06:55:53

From:

Subject:


Oi amor ja tem mais de trinta dias que eu nao sei o que e sexo estou com o meu vulcao do erupcao preste a esplodir! Eu durmo e acordo pensando em sexo co



Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 06:55:58

From:
Subject:

voce,vem meu bombeiro apagar meu fogo.

Can I nominate her for an OSCAR?????? This is not real????? Do I need to wake up and smell the COFFEE???? So much for my wet dreams......

Bluestraveller,

I have been working on this all fucking weekend; that is when I wasn't fucking Liquor Store Girl (LSG). Here's an examlpe of what I can produce:

Àààaà````````++++àaà``aa`~AAã~`aàa``aààaà``aàà~~~~ÃÀAAAÃàaaaaaaA aà``aaàà``aàAAAAAAAAAAAAÃAAA~~AÃàà``````````````à``aa``aàa
Aaaaaaaaaaa^^^^^^^^A6AA^6aa6a^6AAâ6a6

As you can plainly see, I was able to get that squiggly thing above one lower case "a" in about the middle of the top line. I don't know how I did it and, for the life of me, I can't replicate it. Did you only give me half of the instructions just to fuck with my mind or am I missing something?

Perhaps you're wondering why the plus signs got in there too? Well, I think I might have taken your illustrations in your post above a little too literally. You did say ~ + a= ? Was I susposed to use the plus sign? Tell me, yes or no!

The little "party hats (^)" are almost as difficult because, if you don't keep you finger on the shift key, up pops a fucking number 6.

God damn it, this has me so frustrated I think I'll take LSG upstairs and ball her brains out. Clearly, she's already done that to me!

Jag

(Message edited by jaguar on May 21, 2006)

Jag: Whenever I want to send a message with the diacritics above a vowel or another funky Brazilian letter of the alphabet, I go to a Brazilian website (e.g. http://www.newdisc.com.br/cd.php?cod_cds=828768367025) that has the vowels with the diacritics, etc. (e.g. ã, á, ó, é, ç) and copy and paste them into the message or document I want to send. Or better yet, just save your MBL and Hep B "eu preciso dinheiro" emails and copy and paste their vowels with the diacritics into whatever document you're writing.

Jag, I presume you're just having fun about having soooooo much trouble with the special characters, but in case you don't know about it: Start-->Run-->charmap.exe <enter>

Pick the character you want, Select, Copy and Paste.

Charmap also has the Alt key combinations to make those characters in the bottom right of the window. Press and hold the Alt key, then type the number shown on the numeric keypad.

Soccer,

Thanks, I'll try my lucky at copying and pasting as you suggest. Christ after reading that sentence, I feel like I'm back in Kindergarten.

Phoenixguy,

Having fun? Are you fucking nuts! This whole thing is driving me absolutely crazy. Even when I accidently do what I want, I can't do it a second time.

You see the shit that I produce when I try to put those funny things over letters. Would you be proud of that or would it drive you crazy too? Perhaps I'm too focused and maybe a few days off will help.

Yeah, I'll take some time off from watching the History Channel. Actually, I've overdosed on the secrets of Da Vinci, The Holy Grail, Knights Templar and everything else hyping the Da Vinci Code this week on THC. My brain is fried.

Jag

Then stop smoking that THC.

Hunterman,

Touche' my friend. The THC I'm referring to is The History Channel, not the stuff in pot.

If I'm this confused on my prescribed medication, can you imagine what I'd be like on illegal drugs? Yeah, now that I think about it, there probably wouldn't be any discernable difference.

Jag

Jag,
don't sweat it, at least you know if one of those squiggly fuckers is SUPPOSED to be there! The first time I saw one of those I thought I had a pubic hair on my monitor! I thought all those funky symbols were there to use if you wanted to e-mail Mom a swear word.I'm glad there is somone out there as computer retarded as I am.

P.S. I don't see no damn squigglies on a Ben Franklin, haven't had one turned down yet!

iam new to this game and even i can see that money cannot buy you love in rio....just remember one thing: what you are paying is for a fantasy and as such you get what you pay for, wich is an illusion. Do not get cought in a web of fantasy and reality because you will not be able to tell wich one is wich...good luck

Junem3,

How write you are! You even right just like someone who used two bee on this board. I thimk his name was Rob something or udder. He used to say the same things as u. Everythimg was an illusion to him two.

Welcome to the snake pitt.

Jag

PS- Miss Bubble Lips (MBL) tells me that $ can truly buy luv in Rio and, if anyone should know, it wood be her.

Jag

(Message edited by jaguar on May 30, 2006)

hey jagaur

i wonted two tel u that i enjoi reeding yore stowrees beecuss i thinck they r reely fonny!!!

next tym u r in rio, i will bye u a shop.

bayjos,
hokmehrons

I realize this is an age old topic about guys who have fallen in love with hookers and hope to live happily ever after, (yes, even I'm guilty of the same crime) but I think it serves not just as a warning to newbies, but a reminder to all of us, veterans included, that we play a risky game if we are searching for true love by trying to "rescue" a hooker.

I think "Isawal put it best with his post above....

"I guess its a case of don't confuse your hobby with real life. Anyone looking for love with a pro is asking for trouble, these girls are all damaged goods in one way or another. Any guy that thinks he can have a real relationship with a working girl has seen Pretty Women one too many times"......

My heart goes out to the victim of this story. I just want to add, he's not alone. I think we've all been there at one time or another.

Regards,

Master Bates.

MB....you hit the nail on the head.....that is what I was after....we have all been there..and this is a reminder of the pitfalls.....even the experts I know have been there.....

I just returned from Rio yesterday......my gf must have cried at least a litre of water from her eyes when I left......

I called a good friend of mine and told him his gf was losing to much weight...he needed to come back to rio and feed her.

I also know of two gdp's in rio who are pregnant now and the DADS are Gringos.........

Well, I've had a vasetemy and I'm not going to feed anybody, it's bad enough I buy them condos!

I just came back from Rio a few weeks back and I was talking to world-wide monger. The guy has traveled the world in search of pussy.

He consistently comes back to Rio because as he describes it -- "...these girls are literally exotic animals, they are untamed and wild. They will have sex with you like an animal without any other regards for anything else. Much like an animal in the wild, you cannot bring them back to civilization without serious consequences."

Though he is a bit extreme, he is correct that many of these girls are so far corrupted -- abused at an early age, thrown into prostitution at 18, subjected to fast and easy cash, drugs and alcohol every single day, explicit sexual lyrical music, etc. that it would be impossible to return to any normal life.

It still blows me away how many of these girls find American guys who would still want to marry them. Scary thoughts.

Apparently it's their "Nature" (Don't get bit!)