I just wanted to say I just went to Sao Paulo and had a blast. The people were great the shopping malls were nice and taxi drivers were all very good honest working people. Everyone there was always willing to help me even if they could not speak english they gave a hard try and usually was able to get me the messsage and vice versa. The clubs were good. Bahama was a little over rated but I enjoyed it. I really liked Kilt and can not wait to return to Sao Paulo. Love story was a good late night club after 0400 hours. They close at 0500 hours and all the girls from the surrounding clubs go there to party late. I really digged the club Kilt. I Got to know the door man and once I got to know him he was a great guy. Average cost at Kilt was about 100R to get out the door. The average fee for fun was 200R +20-30 for taxi. The taxi to Kilt from the Grand Mecure Hotel was 14R from Kilt back to hotel was 30R. I left with a girl every night for eight nights. All in all I can not wait to go back. If you visit SP you have to try a Brazilian BBQ eating place. The food in Sao Paulo was great no matter where I ate. For pure mongering SP is a great place. The girls seem not to be very professional just young ladies trying to make a buck. Most of the girls have been dumped by there boy friends, leaving them with a kid. None of the girls ever tried to scam me steal from me or ask me for more money than agreed on. All were outstanding and tried to please you every step of the way. None of the girls tried to leave early or get out of work. Remember, talk to people and get to know them and you will find most people are good people, at least that is what I found in SP. Well thats all for now. Any questions please ask.

I agree 100% with you. I stay in Moema and hit Cafe Foto on Wednesday and Thursday and then hit Kilt on Friday night. So many independant girls to meet during the afternoon. I love this place. I stayed in SP for about 2 months straight about two years ago and really did not want to leave.

I liked Kilt when I was there. Glad you had a good time.

MM

I have a Kilt ashtray.

4 hours ago I just came back from Sampa. If you are interested in new places (hotels, bars, restaurants, girls, clubs (baladas), etc.), let me know.

Paulistas simply the best!

Até,

Sven

How about posting your experiences to let all of us know about the new places.

Yes that would be highly informative

Please do not post this information for all to see....I want to keep SP to myself.

Sven please don't encourage everyone; if the word gets out SP will turn into another Rio. (Just kiddin') --another Sampa fan

I may be going to SP Sept 15 through the 23rd. I need to do quite a bit of research on SP before I go, but how would you compare it to Rio? I loved the termas and girls in Rio. My understanding is it is much different. I will be solo, is there anyone there like Don and Ken? OK, I know there is no one like Don or Ken, but you know what I mean. Thanks, AZ

Azguy: Check out my guide on Sao Paulo if you haven't already done so. You can find it either by looking up my trip reports, or go to Tree View, South America, Brazil, and then online guides.

There is no-one like Don and Ken in SP largely because it is not a tourist city like Rio.