Some Help info,

Prices vary somewhat from high to low season due to a few resons:

1- in low season the high-end girls are mostly not around as they are on "vacation" and the demand drops somewhat bringing their market value down with it. Besides there are few less customers for them in the winter (brazil) months.
2- In low season the price to get into help before midnight is R$15 and after midnight R$20. In high season its R$20/R$25 and during carnival and new years its R$30/R$40 or something like that (I may be a little off on the last prices). And that has a major effect on which girls will go in at Help.
3 - This time of the year there is less tourists and money going around the city so the girls that dont usually come to Copa because of the stiff competition are coming around and are making apearances at Help. You'll know when you get a regular street girl freelancing at Help when you get her to your place and she refuses to kiss, you cant finger her, bj's only with a condom and once you shoot a load she's gone just like a Tony Perez home run. (good old memories of baseball in the 80's)

Therefore the current prices make sense and if you pay more than R$200 and she's no 10 then you've been had. Outside Help girls can go as low as R$100 or less if they like you and you are a smooth talker (here again comes the learning the language necessity). But inside, R$100 to R$200 is the current norm especially around 4am when the bitches start on a frantic chase to find a "gringo" to check their oil.

take care

jose

Good info Jose...thanks...please keep us posted as to the value and prices, as today's IMF decision could have pretty drastic effects in terms of the US-Real exchange rate...

Help last nite

jose

Did the help girls do bbbj?and can you come in the mouth/face?Is it normal?

Nordboer
You should become our bbbjtc expert but I think you may want to negotiate this with garotas.
At termas, you should get bbbj over 90% of the time if not all the time. Help you should get over 50% chance while I'd say Barbarella about 50% chance to get it. YMMV of course.

this place got 300 garotas every night, but 295 of them were unfuckable. there are some serious skanks in this joint. i saw one gal with plastic tapes on her arms. at first i thought it was her nico patches, but they were not.

my 1st gal inside help was jessica. b3j and splatter her face all three times. i went russian roulete with her. she left at 5pm so i missed out on the 1st centaurus run with the guy. she was a sweetheart.

my 2nd gal inside help was a spinner veronica. i was her trophy and she was constantly suffricating my throat. we went at it like animal at my apartment then she stoned cold passed out sleeping like a log. she did not want anything to do with sex after she popped. she left at 2pm and i gave her 70percent of the agree amount because i told her we only have sex once.

my 3rd one outside help was camila, a pro who has traveled the world. she got excited about the potential to work and earn great money in teejay. we went at it for one round then spent a great time bs. she was fucking stone cold passed out again after the first round. she left at noon.

my 4th gal outside of help was semi black. do not remember her name. she was cool. b3j and splattered her tits.

i got struck out at help on my first friday night. there were no garota worth to shag. i would not stick any of yours in any garotas that night. i went home solo.

Sakebomb,

What was the plastic tape for? Some sort of Brazilian fashion statement?

Slufagus,

Don't even know and didn't want to find out because if you struck a convo with an unwanted garota, she would hook on to you until you walked away. Very very bad for your "business". I saw that thing on her arms all the three times we were at Help.

Last time I was at Help, there were French guys slamming down Johny Walkers and acting like they were boozing it up at the Harvard Club, while a midget garota on the program was shaking her ass on the dance floor. The most bizarre scene I've seen in a while.

Agree 90%+ are not doable at Help. But it may be a bad time right now. My best pick-ups have been outside at around 10pm.

Sakebomb, you sound like an insatiable animal. I'm impressed. I don't know how some guys can continually fire away day after day. I work out regularly, and I'm completely drained (in every sense of the word) after a few days in Brazil.

I feel your pain Jarule...I~m only 29 and had lofty plans of bagging 3+ per day like square meals when I got to rio...It~s day five and I~m about 2ish a day and I STILL got sick...new germs, shitty sleep and eating schedule and a lot of aggressive sex can definitely wear your ass out...

I agree, Help has a TON of complete slags that you have to wade thru, but being that it~s the end of the month and a lot of the brasileiras have rent due, bills to pay, etc. the word is (from Dood and Don at least) that you see a fair amount of newbies and semi-pros just in for the week or weekend to make ends meet.

Lol, that fucking midget is ALWAYS at and around help...she actually has a decent body, but you~d need to put her ass on some sort of stretcher to make her doable...she´d make a good sidekick with a donkey though, lol...

Sake, did you bag THE camilla (mulatta, long black hair , prolly contacts in, super tight body)? Knew she was back at Luomo (I was her first ¨client there since she~d been öut of circulation for the last 3 mos.) but didn~t think she was making the help rounds...

And I~m assuming ¨russian roulette¨ means bareback sex? Dude, if so, watch yourself...I wouldn~t trust these Help chicks as far as I could throw ém...

Rexxx, my Camila was a morena, she speaks a little English, solid Espanol, and sat outside of Help both times I saw her. She's a solid 8.5 with super tight bod. The 2nd time I saw her, she offered a 3some with her cousin as we talked about it when I was with her the night before. I passed because I was hooking up with a semi mulatta.

It seemed like we were at L'uomo for quite sometime, but I didn't see who "your Camila" was. Did Layne87 pay you to keep her away from me??? j/k...keep trucking on bro.

lol...she wasn~t working that day I don~t think...beware if you go with her, she~s an absolute master at finding what your button is and pushing it...she~s left a ton of mongers in her wake...I~ve only been with her once and I~m debating whether once is all I will do with her this trip, she~s like some kind of drug, I swear to God...May use Debra at Monte Carlo to help soften the blow of any potential heartache I~m setting myself up for...

Rexxx,
I see you're having trouble finding the apostrophe on the portuguese keyboard. It's there somewhere but I can't remember where.

rexx...yep better watch the next step.I think Bia is a good idea(Gizelle will piss her off to much)...if you get really bad off drop me a line and I will cure you...

oh yeah...funny as hell..out of circulation for three months!!!???

SB- no amount can keep that one out of action. she knows the POWER she has over men...(except Athos)...sorry you missed her as I wanted a comparison with the girls from SP..

Rexxx,

It's great to see that you are having a good time, and that all your research is paying off well. I hope that Rio is all that you had hoped it would be.

I have a theory that it is key to find at least one girl that you like from the Help, Terrace, Meia Pataca area. All the terma girls have to go to work every day, so if you're looking to hang out with someone or go on a day trip, this is really the best option available. Plus there are some real sweethearts (less pro) than the termas.

Have a great time. Wish I was there, but I'll be there shortly.

BT

Sorry to hear you got sick. Hate when that happens during travel. I'm usually on the toilet 5x a day when I'm in Brazil. Must be the change in food.

I'm also planning a 6 week stay in Brazil for later this year, and as much as I bitch about the Help scene, I know I'll be drawn to it at least a couple of times a week.

Rexxx,
feel sorry for you...sick the whole time in Rio?
I am 46 year old, spend 7 days in rio at a time, score 9-12 times a day..thank to Viagra...
long live Rio..

Rexxx, I won't be able to pay any bitches' bills as I just got back from hanging out at Huntington Beach. I let you have the honor and pleasure...j/k. Sorry you got sick. If you can't find some antibiotic from local farmacia or drogaria, here're some that the doc subscribed if you're still in bed:

Rio:
Monique: 9625 2755 (Solid Salma Hayek, flawless bod w/ nat C-cups)
Jessica: 9696 2792 or 9654 9585

SP:
Barbara: 9824 3891 (aichiwawa, my favorite Braz)
Michele: 9434 0087
Mary: 3501 4056 (flawless playmate/porn star caliber bod, brown-bagging though)

hey, you kept mentioning Debra @ MC. Who's this babydoll? I met a thin blonde named Eva there and she was an absolutely sweetheart. I regretted ditching her one Sat. night.

Layne87, Xi Sheng Lin Athos is a vertical Superman and will not fall for any garota. Quality of club girls from SP surely beat Help and the Lido clubs. Francebel mp is the closest to termas in Rio and it has a pretty solid line up. There are many other mp in SP which we didn't have a chance to explore.

Rock9-12times, Pfizer would be very happy to have you as a spokeman anytime. You da man!!!

lol...thanks for the well wishes fellas and thanks for the all important prescription SB, looks like just what the doctor ordered, lol...I actually managed to get well for a few days and now I´m fuckin´ sick again...dammit...every 5 days like clockwork it seems, bah...

Debra is a very cute mulatta, with gorgeous cat-like eyes and a body that looks like it was literally carved out of stone...speaks decent english, so again, a potential threat for those NOT looking for the GFE...

I must say, though I enjoy being rock hard for hours with viagra, the side effect of not being able to pop is getting old VERY fast...took me 2 hours and 10 minutes with a dupla in 4x4 to finish, and it seems in general, two sessions is the minimum to complete...at some point I´m going to have to start charging the girls, since they´re getting to finish much more often than I am, lol...

p.s. I found the ´key finally...lol..

Rexx,

I´m running into the same problem. My 1st and 2nd pops are generally ok, but after that I find it takes a long time to come. I´ve cut back the V dosage some, but it´s still difficult to do rounds 3 and 4 and I sometimes have to have the garota hand finish me.

I´d say you need a few days off, but that´s far easier said than done here.

We need to find some herb or something that will promote the ejaculatory reflex. Athos, any suggestions?

HC1

HC1
Sorry no help on that one.
I usually get into the 750 to 1000 strokes to shoot while in Rio or 2 to 3 times more than in
TJ.
Maybe you can try replenish your cum level with L Arginine, zinc. Eating peanuts. Maybe eating seafood, protein.

HC1
Dunno about promoting the reflex - if anyone knows of a way to do that, speak up!

I've recently done some things that have the ol' prostate working better than ever.

STAY HYDRATED! Drink water all day long. ESPECIALLY when you're on a hobby trip and drinking more alcohol than usual. I try to drink at least 32 oz of water between sessions.

Choose wisely - If you know you're going to session 3-5 times in a day, be carefull who you're with. When I started hobbying, I found myself very selective when starting (and sober). As the day progressed, I'd get more intoxicated and lower my standards, making the finale harder to accomplish. Now I stay selective all of the time - of course, all bets are off in Rio as I hear they're all friggin gorgeous!

I've read the below two websites, and actually begun using the techniques and products. During my trip to Havana last week, I performed better than ever before in my life. Friday & Saturday found me splooging 3x/day, and each one was as good as the last one. Not bad for a guy who's pushing 40

http://www.actionlove.com/extra/semendry.htm
http://www.certifiedmale.org/issue10/cont.htm

Protein from rare-cooked steaks (just bring your own A-1 as no restaurant served their steaks with steak sauce), and raw seafoods in the forms of sushi and sashimi served me well on every 2-3 weeks mongering trip. The ultimate sex enhancer is raw oyster shoots if you could find it in Rio.

Remember, unless you're a teen or in your early 20s, no ordinary man could have gone through what we have by popping 3-4 times everyday for a two-week straight period. Damn, talking about stretching our manhood when taking in the considerations of alcohol intake and lack of rest...

Dear mongers;

Maybe this subj. should have it's own thread but anyway; This phenomenon is not new for many mongers and has been discussed on other boards as well. These are my thoughts on the subj. for what ever it is worth.

Many people experience the same �problems� after many days (weeks) of extensive fun.. The situation should not be surprising to anyone. I believe it is both physical and physiological and for obvious reasons;

Let�s just admit it. During a full time monger trip your body is getting �drained� in all senses off the word. Even if you are a young very horny stud, for all of us, it is a limit of many times we can pop each day in a row without tasting the frustration of the discussed problem. My heads.. says that normal horny people should be able to pop 2-3 times daily with excitement �if� we take notice and care about following few things:

Physical:
You total health condition I vital here. Try to take care of your self. Eat good, drink a lot of water all the time; take a lot of vitamins etc. I have tried �a lot� of health products, but have concluded that high doses of multivitamins, (lots of C if you drink a lot) does what I need without spending a fortune on herbs etc.

Our excitement while in Rio makes it difficult to get the sleep we need. Your body is working on high gear when you are away from home and �everything� is different. If you don�t take care of it, it will catch up. Try to put in some sleep. Overnighters are nice indeed, but endless steams will get you tired.lol

Alcohol is a �depressive� drug. It sure feels stimulating sometimes, but it is mainly due to the dampening effect on your social barriers. For the sensitivity on your �vital organs� it is only depressive, in plain words: we loose the feeling in you equipment, even if it is 'strong and standing�. Same goes for the cigarettes. We all know this.
With some kind of curiosity, I have seen that many of the most happy/successful mongers, don�t drink or smoke. (PS. I do both). Being totally clear and �inhaling� everything that is happening is for many people the highest trill.

As for V it enables increased blood flow into your dick, but it also reduces sensitivity in the same dick. Except from being the happy owner of a quite stiff one, V does not make you anymore horny.

Physiological:
As with many things in life, we are exited to what you don�t have all the time. After some days of excellent mongering, we raise our standards and start to take stuff for granted and it will eventually get to be a routine. After a while it is just �sport fucking� and when you start smoking cigarettes and feeling your thoughts are drifting away when doing double with two super sexy girls, you should try to take �a little� brake..

Try not to think about sex all the time, beware about the effects from living at the termas for days/weeks, and it should help. Fist night we are like loose cannon. Try to compare that to what you feel after 2-3 weeks and you know what I mean.

Sum;
Listen to your body! Don�t fuck a girl if you are not exited about fucking her. You and your next (possible stunner) will suffer from it. I know many of us like to build high numbers and feel we have to cover as much as possible during our time there. If you are serious about your hobby, you will always have another chance. Save you semen for something (someone? lol) worth it.

Normal problem condition is: Being drunk, using high doses of V and needed protection = like fucking with 3 condoms. Combine that with multiple girls in multiple days and lack of sexual lust since it is starting to be a routine in you head: no surprise we have a situation.

Even coming from me; try to drink as little as possible alcohol, and stay away from all possible stimuli as possible (coffee etc.). If you need some V take very �little�, try 25mg but that you can take daily for breakfast. Your head will get tired from seeing all those lovely asses day after day. Try to give your upper head a �feria� from you �feria� and don�t hunt for girls on the beach and other places during the day. Try also considering having a total day off. (I know you will laugh now Layne!)

As many others I don�t always live like I preach, but this is my thoughts/experiences on the subj. After reading this I realise that nothing is new here, but I just got inspired, hope that is OK. I say that if you have 2-7 days there, go for gold and don�t take time to follow my advice. For longer stays I believe however, I�m sure they will help.

Dr. Ruth :-)

Habana

(Note: For new readers I will upload some pics removed from another board)

Habana-glad to hear from you again...I did laugh on the day off but I actually did this in July...You are right it does work..

Habana, VERY GOOD, I MUST REPEAT VERY GOOD, My amigos make fun and say I have a DR. degree as a Monger, but I learned something from you this time around, this what I LOVE about this site I can always learn something new from this site.

I see it all the time I had it happen to me many years ago, I think the 1st time out the box a newbie WILL FUCK (THEIR) BRAINS OUT!!!most never seen so many great looking BUNDAS in their life, but after a few times of going to RIO they will slow down some (MAYBE) HA,HA,

What I found to work for me is that, I keep myself in great shape 365 days a year and keep my weight under control etc.

Habana, also what works for me right before going to RIO, lets say a few weeks before I step up my running (4-5 miles a day) no fast food, I hit the gym very hard, I don't drink or smoke anyway so that's not a problem I loose about 5 to 8 lbs., I trained like I am getting ready for a fight.

So, I will be ready for what ever action that could come up, also EVERY true Monger should KNOW (THEIR) TESTOSTERONE LEVEL the normal range is 241-827, I have a high range if anyone have a low range talk with your doctor and he can get you on a program (maybe shots,a patch ETC.) but get tested this way you will know what your level is most guys terstosterone levels fall off after (THEIR) 20'S remember when you would walk around (WITH A HARD DICK ON 24/7?), if you find yourself needing to take a V pill all the time to get it up, then maybe you should GET YOUR TESTOSTERONE LEVEL CHECK OUT, ok guys


Chao,

KidCisco

KidCisco
You crack me up... I am like you, cariocas saved my life. I am working out 5 days a week, swimming, go to abs and other classes to tone my body and lose fat. Going to Brazil is my Olympics. I can start to see some improvement as I fit in my pants again.
What Dr Habana was suggesting is all good but the question raised by Rexx and HC1 was not maintaining horniness but being able to climax easier after several sessions.
My only suggestion was be to raise one's cum volume so it ejects quicker. Also while squeezing your kegel can help you last longer, sometimes when I squeeze my kegel it accelerates ejection.
I cannot compete with youngster hombrecitos so I schedule my sessions to give myself at least 3 hours between garotas and also not overdoing it on any given day. It's a marathon after all.

Ok- I dont want to mention names here (Dood), but on my last trip the statement was made why do you have to cum on each session.."its not the destination but the journey"...I laughed at the no name monger(Dood) but he may have a point. I tried this twice on the second session 2 days running and it did help increase my enjoyment on the final one of the day...the girls do get a bit upset but its just an act for a few minutes to save their pride...

Hahah motherfucker.

Yep... Sometimes I just don't pop. It's the journey, not the destination.. Shit.. it's not for lack of trying

Athos, once again it proves that you are the master of your domain!!! I have been with over a thousand women after 14 years of mongering and I still don't have a clue of what you meant from your post...

"My only suggestion was be to raise one's cum volume so it ejects quicker. Also while squeezing your kegel can help you last longer, sometimes when I squeeze my kegel it accelerates ejection."

You cracked me up...

I figured we would wake up The Artist on this one...

Yes "snakebomb" -(sorry)---Athos is on a different level than the rest of us in the Monger game...The man is serious about his work...

Another way to save energy and shorten recovery time, no you don't need this SB, is to climax without ejaculating as ejaculation and climax is a 2 step process.
You need a very strong kegel muscle and perfect timing. But since it is all physical, skip the timing and put 2 fingers on kegel (right between balls and anus) as you are ready to explode. Put significant pressure as you are ready to shoot, if you put enough pressure cum will start to come out but instead of going through your dick will go back inside your body. Supposedly you can fuck all night that way. Climax works the same, dick goes limp but you do not get tired or fall sleepy afterwards.
Best is to practice and finish in doggie so chica does not get perplexed seeing you reaching down there and seeing a condom sin leche.
Guys who can pull off this trick without using fingers have my admiration.

laidbackesq posted this help info over in the South America chat area -

Club help is a very large disco. It is pretty well lit and has an upstaris with booths and tables. There is a large dance floor, kind of like a rollar skate ring. They usually play techno and have flashing lights therein. Going to club help is like living a fantasy of being a famous athlete or rock star, going to the hottest club with the finest women, and then leaving with any girl you want. The girls come in all colors and sizes. Most are between 5-7's, but you will find an occassional 8-9. Most of the girls in there are working girls. You can talk to them for a while, then ask them to come home with you. They usually ask for $100 U.S. but this is bullshit unless she is a 9 or 10. You can usually get them to drop their price if they like you. In fact, the more they like you, the lower the price. I've gotten a few freebies because I paid the night before and they really liked me. Its also better to pay in Reias becuase they probably don't know the current U.S. exchange rate.
Also, when you leave, make it clear that it is for the whole night, otherwise, they may try to leave early for the full amount.

It may be a good idea to wait outside at Mei Pataca around 10:00. That way, you can see the girls when they go in and can tell if it is worth your while. In fact, you can probably get a girl before they go in. They seem to prefer this as it keeps them from having to pay an entrance fee.

Make sure your hotel lets girls in because many don't. And if they do, they try to shake you down for money. In general, the more pretigious the hotel, the less chance they will allow girls in.

Layne and Sakebomb; You disappoint my here a little :-))

Athos; Kind of liked the Dr. Habana note.. Thanks. Funny as hell yes, but also very correct. Practising you kegel control also makes you able to shoot you load much harder. Male porn stars use this to shoot more impressive on film. Unless you have TANK of leche (ea. like mr. North) we could all benefit from this, but you have to practise hard. It is sometime hard to succeed controlling this, I have found that if you try to squeeze both asshole- and you ball muscle, you are somewhat close. I am not joking her! You will know when you are going in the right direction and once you reached some control you can practise everywhere just by doing sets of squeeze/release.

Steps to do is like 1,2,3: 1: Reach climax normal way. 2: Squeeze you kegel muscle to keep you sperm from leaving through your dick. You could also try to squeeze you dick with you hand to hold back the sperm. 3: Then time this with the point when you are not able to hold back anymore, release and shoot for whatever you got.

Motivation is not only more powerful shots to show that you liked your girl. I have found that many girls appreciate this as they see it like kind of a compliment (me childish here?). Besides from that I find it kind of fascinating trying to control this.

In fact my average shooting distance has increased with.., naaa that�s a joke. (the 1-2-3 is not)

Layne; Thanks buddy! Hope you are fine your self. Sad I can�t join you in your next trip. I am booked for Nov/Des. Could had been fun meeting you for some CB games... Guess I will have to settle with Dood, but then again I have the impression that he is pretty good,lol. Anyway, please have a ball! (or preferably 2.lol again)

I refuse to squeeze and to put any type of pressure on my sensitive "soldier". That's too painful. If I ever couldn't release the valve, I'd rather tell her..."It's not you, it's me" and refer her to the book of Dood and Layne "it's not the destination, it's the journey".

How does this stuff, coitus interrupt is that what they call it, work in Rio anyway? How do you guys get way with not cumming with garota(s)? Isn't that a felony in Rio after they inspected your camishinha? My experiences were that they would choke my chicken until it puked...I was never able to walk away ejaculation free...

Again, bow down to my Master(s) of the domain.

Sakebomb;

Ditto on the not �cumming part�. As all normal people I come slower after some days (and drinks), but it�s seldom that I don�t cum in the end. In fact it�s quite funny to what kind off �services� they can perform to help you come through. I spes. in �not� coming too quick and then cumming hard; in other words �trained exit control�. I leave the Buddhism stuff to the other gents. I have never been a skinflint with my leche once I have picked one. I also believe this is a club of felonies down there and a garota insult, dangerous guys...

Quite intimate funny discussion we have going her. Lets hope the Internet is here to stay. lol

Sakebomb,

I hate to admit it, but I agree with you here. I had a few 3rd or 4th of the day garotas look at me funny and say "No goza?" when I took the rubber off after I couldn't come. They didn't accept it and it was clear that either me or her were going to be jacking me off or she was going to suck me off before I left. I never left a room without coming.

HC1

I was in Help last night for the 1st time in many moons. For some reason it felt like some kinda time machine experience seeing old faces from various Rio trips (I always get in a strange mood on the last night of a trip). I actually think that I'm starting to enjoy visiting Help. There were some very pretty women in there relatively early.

I was at about 50% finishing odds using V (had to utter the "eu nao poso" phrase to a few girls...sorry hun) but after talking to a few of the monger buddies (mitchc, waters2000, etc) I realized I wasn't alone, and that as dood said, half the fun (or more) was in the act as much as the completion...

seems like the trick was to target 2 girls per terma, bang one for fun, and follow up with a second to finish...seemed to roughly time the efficacy of the V at about 4 hours as well...

remember, I'm talking about ability to come here (or lack thereof with V), not zen ninja secret internal ejaculation techniques or super soaker 2000 peter north jiz bazooka styles, lol...damn, you guys scare me sometimes with your committment to the hobby...

I only had one session where I didn't finish in the week I was there but that was my last session with a girl who I had spent the night with and most of the day, and she had already nearly killed me. I think she was determined to ruin me for other women. Ha!
It was funny as we lay together in the cabina like two high school kids yelling loud sex noises and just laughing our asses off at the silliness of it all. She offered more than once to finish me but it was just perfect the way it was. The journey not the destination, I like that one.

It is indeed a matter of "the journey and not the destination." Several years ago I began practicing Taoist sex techniques to see what they had to offer. The basic idea in such practices is to limit the ejaculations since semen is thought to be a repository of chi. I do not agreee with this basic point but I discovered some interesting facts when I removed the orgasm from the equation. When i had sex without intending to cum my technique became quite different...more relaxed, more responsive, less direct. I found I paid more attention to what I was doing rather than to where I was going. My attention became more concentrated and the process became more enjoyable. Surprisingly, I failed to experience that finished feeling I usually got from cumming and each new sexual encounter became an addition to the ones before. During the course of a day sexual experiences can plateau to an eventual climax which can come whenever it is deemed appropriate. These days I generally will come one in five times, but it is unimportant whether I do or not...I am far more interested in the hour of lovemaking than in the 20 seconds of climax at the end.

I realize I'm a rube, but this sounds like frickin' masturbation without the dessert. But whatever floats your boat...

You said it Porker. Sounds like something a born again or some bleeding heart would come up with. All the work but no payoff.

I've done a variation of this delayed climax for years now. You go right up to almost cuming and then you back off. Sometimes I will actually dribble a bit but no orgasm. Eventually you take it all the way. Guaranteed to be the most intense shot you will ever do.

The Artist I agree 100% the key word is LOVEMAKING, I rather spend 59 min of lovemaking then 59 seconds of FUCKING and cumming so fast.

The girls love when I have control and let them cum,and cum, and cum, and ONLY then if I want to I will cum, it want take long in RIO before the girls will talk and put the word out about how LONG you can last before you cum, THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENT from them charging you $100.00 for a SHORT TIME to them charging you $50.00. and staying with you all night hoping for another LONG LOVEMAKING SESSION, at times I wanted to charge the girls $$$ after they came so many times, WAIT maybe I will next time (ha,ha,ha,)

KidCisco

The rate for Help Disco was $100R to $200R about 18 months ago for all night. Is the rate still the same for Help?

in August, the girls would start at $300R and you could usually talk them down to $150R or $200R for all night...

If the garota with the large bandage on her right arm is still around, she'll pay you 300R...an hour to do her all night, possibly all week. Your Milage Does Not Vary with this garota.

More girls than guys so 200R for me as I am generous guy :-).
They start quoting at US100$, you look at them dumb then it goes to 250R, then you look dumber and you get your deal.
More attractive garotas at help than Barbarella.
Barbarella start quoting these days at US200$. So I can only laugh it�Ls so pathetic. You can even see the left over go to Help or they�Ld starve to death.
I still don�Lt understand the allure of Help as termas girls make much better tln companions plus no need to negotiate.
TLN needs to be negotiated if a must for hombre.

Both blondes Luanna 20 and Marcella 19 go to the beach if you prefer afternoon fuck. Both in the 8 range. Luanna is natural while Marcella is dyed. Only two I will regret not boning as my time is running short.