I really think the Rio de Janeiro terma experience is one of the best things in life. From the facilities, to the women, to the outfits, to the quality of the cabines, with decent (not great) food, etc. Believe me there is nothing like it in all the world. Not even Sao Paulo compares in overall experience, although one can argue about the quality of the women.

But then I think, what could one do to make it even better?

My first idea is that it would be so cool if one could smoke pot in the terma. That would really be a true fantastic experience. Yes, I have done it secretly in the cabine. And also when entering the cabines, one can smell the fragrance of others partaking, but what if we could just go to the terma and light up a J in the boite? Getting high and selecting a fantastic sex partner would be an unbelievable combination, in my view.

So out of curiosity, what do others think could be done to make the best even better?

Well BT with the name "Hemp" that would work for me! Now the only other thing I can think of for them to make them better is if I was in them daily! YES! YES!

The only thing that would improve the termas experience for me is if there was an equivalent venue down the street from me as opposed to 5,000+ miles away.

Of course the prices would have to be comparable to those of Rio termas, and the women would have to be homegrown Brazilian or some other brand of non-acculturated Latina.

There's no way on god's earth that North American women could deliver the same experience...at any price.

I would prefer to keep the pot smoking in the cabines. In fact, my choice for improvement would be non-smoking boites, and then one can choose a smoking or non-smoking cabine and smoke whatever you choose in it. I prefer to make my selections before getting stoned. I've made some bad decisions about women while stoned. If we click straight, we tend to click better stoned.

So what we need to do is transport the drug laws of Amsterdam to Rio! Or the garotas of Rio to Amsterdam. No, scratch that second thought.

It needs to be noted that StandingWave's first termas garota was "Chucky" from Solarium. I think she blew him away, as he put it.

A pool. Anytime I'm in the Centaurus shower area where the small pool is I think how cool it would be hanging loose in a pool in a termas with several garotas surrounding me and fetching me drinks rather than just sitting in a boite.

Café 400 has a pool, doesn't it? I know I've been to one T with a pool.

I wonder if Chucky's back from Spain. Guess I'll find out soon. One crazy lady!

Several of the clubs in Sao Paulo have pools. In particular Connection and hopefully some day to be reopened Millenium both had pools. That said, I have never seen anyone in it except for drunk people throwing people in it.

On the pot. Maybe they could have a pot boite, and they would sell it just like they sell cigarettes and red bull.

SAJ,

Yeah, I look forward to sitting in a hot tub or dip pool with a couple of garotas - and some old brasileros with their speedos or, worse, au natural.

If VIPS was a termas, that would be nice. Small cabines, each with an outdoor hot tub. That would be worth dropping some extra coin on.

I suspect, but don't know for a fact (although this is something I may have heard in the past from semi-reliable sources), the pools in many of the higher-end clubs in Sao Paulo are there so they qualify as "health clubs," which I guess was thought to give them some sort of legal advantage or immunity. Some have unused exercise equipment as well.

It is more than a bit bizarre to see the totally unused pools in so many of these places.

Last time I was there Rio Tropicale in Recreio had a pool Never saw anybody use it tho.

I don't know. The old days at Cafe Millenium in Sao Paulo were quite good. I might even rank that place higher than any Rio termas. It at least compares, at a minimum.

All kidding aside - I agree with Bwana. For non-smokers, and particularly those who live in places where tobacco smoking in bars and clubs has been banned, the cigarette smoke in the boite is stifling sometimes.

Cat,

When she whipped out that vibrator, I knew I wasn't in Kansas any more.

Damn are they still allowing smoking in rio? When I was there last year there were signs everywhere banning it, I hope they dont ban smoking in termas, smoking should be manditory its a whorehouse for christs' sake.

my only suggestion would be music at a reasonable volume ,longer robes ,and a cash only line ,one time we were waiting over an hour to pay at cancun because of the debit cards, also maybe a costumers bill of rights one time I was at solarium with milena? maybe hot girl who likes doing pull-ups in the boite and about a half hour into the session she got her period , I was disgusted and had to pay anyway

Rio Tropicale in Recreio not only has a pool, but pool tables. It is the most unusual terma compared to the norm. Sweet and I went up there several times, an it reminds one of a regular bar/hang-out, with all other facilities being in another area entirely [back areas].

CFK

I was thinking too small, someplace like the www.nyspacastle.com only with brasileiras providing all conceivable comforts.

The "Terma" by the domestic airport in SP has a pool and pool tables, been a long time so the name eludes me...

I've always thought that somebody ought to open a Terma outside Vegas. Love to see the H1-B apps for that one, you cant argue irreplaceable skills can you

Those are nice enough to print and duplicate.

How to make Termas better?
a) Replace the cabines with real beds in decent size rooms. I think Cancun in Rio and some of the Sampa clubs got it right.
b) Have weekly FKK style orgy nights where for one price you can session as much as you want.
c) Make more of an effort to change the decor and layout of the club to fit certain fantasy themes. (for example, a hospital motif where all the girls dressed as sexy nurses and doctors; a school motif where all the girls are cheerleaders or hot teachers, etc.)
d)have real restaurants connected to the boite. Doesn't have to be gourmet food just have more variety than typical bar munchies. I have not tried some of the food at the whiskerias though.
e) just like VIPs, have special theme rooms with sex furniture inside ie. http://www.theliberator.com

Very interesting BluesT
Here's some thoughts:

1) Buy one session, get the next one for 25% off (same day)

2) Turn VIPS into a terma, and make the Millenium Suite be the boite. THAT would be awesome. I'd never leave that place.

3) Let the girls negotiate the price of a dupla independently. We get lower priced duplas and get to bang multiple garotas. Great way to 'try' a new girl w/ur favorita and not loose too much if she sucks (or doesn't)

4) Sell viagra & cialis

5) Offer a variety of international condoms instead of those cheap domestic ones.

6) Put a sybian machine in some of the suites with a remote control.

7) Have S&M and bondage suites with cuffs, tables, etc...

8) Have 'soapie' massage suites available

9) Midget Mondays

10)Have a videographer & professional lighting available for "Fuck a Brazilian PornStar". Now THAT'S a souvenier!

Deeg,

11) Import Korean women for the "theraputic" massage.

Oh yeah Dongringo...I vote for the soapy rubber raft like in BKK

Well, the last thing they need in the boite is a bunch of people smoking pot. I'd rather smell my own farts for hours than stand around in a room with that smell. The cigarette smoke is bad enough.

I say the management make the girls take a few days off when they are on the rag. You guys know ... most of them don't stop working during that time, and most of us are down there gobbling it up. Most of them just stuff cotton balls up in there and change them out often. Gross, but true. We never know the difference.

Deeg,

Great idea. It certainly makes sense to sell Viagra and Cialis in the boite. They probably could even charge a premium from the pharmacy and many guys would still snap it up.

I think a Termas has everything covered from a conceptual standpoint, however, if the spa area could be improved to look like the spa at a 5 star hotel, the rooms could be fashionable with some opportunity for daylight (during the day)...basically like was mentioned before - a VIP's with Fasano like decor with top quality women for 4x4 prices...the price is the only hard part because real estate and improvements cost money.

Every termas - except Rio Antigo and Cancun - needs to simply upgrade the cabines a bit, then keep the upgraded rooms in good shape. New mattresses and pillows, better sheets, AC units that work well, rip out the shitty speakers and put in better sound systems. At 4x4, either ditch the TVs or fix them all and play some decent porn. Oh, and for 4x4 especially - tell the domesticas and garotas to shut the fuck up when they are in the hallway and while working. Nobody needs to hear the favela crowd yelling up and down the hallway while you're trying to nut.

Now, specifics:

Luomo - have Filepe sell the place. He's a shitty owner/manager. The DJ needs to be beaten silly, blasting the same shitty music at max decibels when the boite is empty is pretty counter-productive. Upgrade the sound systems in the cabines - they're all broken. And ditch the goofy theme rooms. Just have regular, good cabines.

Solarium - take the fucking plastic bags off of the pillows. Replace the mattresses. Do something about the paper-thin walls between the cabines.

Monte Carlo - ban smoking, for whatever reason, every garota in the place seems to be under orders to smoke two packs of cigs per shift. Also, try and maintain quality. This place goes flips from good to bad and back faster and more often than any other major termas. Also, just because you're on the beach in the middle of Copa, don't assume everyone who walks in is a stupid tourist.

4x4 - put a bouncer at the door to the boite to make sure the retard brasileros with the "look at me" need for attention stay the fuck out of everyone's way. They huddle in front of the door and the bar in everyone's way. Also, keep the noise down up in the cabine areas.

65 - similar loitering in the way issues as 4x4 but not nearly as bad, keep the damn entrance to the boite open.

Cancun - get some better looking women

I thought that MC already banned smoking, except for in the TV room.

Mitchc,

That use to be the TV room, now it's the infamous Pringles room, where I feed said Pringles to the Garotas!

Cat....have you seen those retarded asshole Brazilian guys that wear their robe around their waste and show off their tattoos? What the fuck is that about? Do they think the gdp's will think their hot and give them a freebie? 4x4 needs to get rid of those jerks .....and get some new robes. ......Btw, can a guy bring his own robe? I have a white Lacoste robe i am considering bringing? The robes at 4x4 are so damn short and worn out....JR

Well, a growing number of black guys are taking their own robes down. I think they look like fucking retards for doing so - plus wearing caps and basketball shoes with the robe - so I recommend not.

Speaking of that, the brasilian guys you mention are similar to American black guys in that they all crave attention. Thus, our guys wear goofy shit in a termas when robe and flip-flops is standard. Their guys just stand around in the fucking way and look stupid.

The more you go to 4x4, the more stupid shit you see. The old guys who go on Fridays and sit in the corner in the back, by the small bar, with their legs up on the seats and with their old balls hanging out. The goofy fucker who sits on steps to the stripper polls with the robe belt wrapped around his neck. Stupid shit like that. It does seem to be a 4x4 specialty with the younger guys just wearing a towel or whatever. All attention-seeking activity, nothing more.

That's why I like being a WASP American. We don't seek attention from others as a gauge of our self-worth

I must admit I wear the robe around my waist , im not that tall , about 6ft but most of the robes are way to small ,I dont like my ass on the couches , id rather have my back touch the couch for some reason. I find its much better to tie it around my waist

I'd cut the price 80%.

I'm an ignorant heretic, I know.

But still...

Porker, there are plenty of places to get laid for US$10-15 dollars in Rio. Most of us just don't travel 12-24 hours to do so.

80% that would be nice but not realistic

Porker

After a horrid blowback incident at a .50 cent per minute place in Belo Horizonte?

I believe Mitchee has proven that as the price goes down, the risk of combing someone else's poop from your pubes goes up.

I don't know if Dongringo meant .50 cents per minute (in which case it would have been a true bargain), or 50 cents a minute (in which case he must be talking about one of the higher-end places in Belo Horizonte, at least insofar as the "apartment" area downtown goes).

The going rate in these places is 10 reais for about 20 minutes ranging up to 20 reais for the more luxurious accommodations. According to my calculations that is between about 21 and 42 cents a minute; then again, perhaps MitchC hit these places during one of the periods of extreme real strength, which could have pushed the damage up to 50 cents a minute. OTOH, if you want anal (which I imagine Porker gets regularly in Asia at bargain prices) you should add an additional 21 cents a minute to the price plus or minus 21 cents a minute.

As to blowback incidents, my own someone-has-to-do-it-so-why-not-me research suggests they are also regularly available in Sao Paulo, even in the more expensive places, although perhaps not in the mythic proportions embodied by MitchC's story. I suspect the blowback-in-Sao-Paulo phenomenon results from inadequacies in the Brasilian transportation infrastructure leading to a severe enema shortage there. In Sao Paulo at least, there is no price/blowback tradeoff.

(Message edited by LAguy on March 08, 2009)

I've never been to Brazil. I would like to go one day. I can see the women are super hot with more variety than I can fuck in a lifetime. I like to read the threads on Brazil to help me understand some of the finer points one needs to know to monger there. Eventually I will pull this trigger and go.

I'm reading through all of these posts and I am trying to understand the concept of termas. Initially, I thought termas was a name for a type of massage parlor or brothel (in a traditional sense).

However, the fragments of info posted above indicate that this place is where men come to relax to take their time selecting a garaota (hooker) to session with. While they are either looking for their next session or recharging their batteries from the last session, they sit in a common area with all of the termas clients & workers wearing robes (and probably flip-flops I assume).

I'm trying to figure-out why I would want to go to this place so that I can take my clothes off and wear a robe (that is not mine) especially one that too small, and hang around in the common areas with young and old dudes I don't know? Or for that matter, even if some of the people were my friends...why lounge around in robes?

LarryD mentioned he is 6' and either he ties the robe around his waist exposing his back otherwise his ass sticks out and he doesn't like his bare ass touching the couch while he sits in the common areas. Cat mentioned he is annoyed when old geezers sit in the corner in their robes with their feet up so everyone can see their dusty old balls. He also mentioned how he hates it when black dudes, seeking attention, hang around the entrance wearing their robes around their waist showing of their tatoos while they wear goofy hats and sneakers. Or young idiots who sit on the steps wearing their robes tied around their neck.

It seems that it is customary to wear a robe while in the termas. But, am I not allowed to wear a T-shirt and blue jeans or other casual clothing in the termas? Do I have to wear a rob, and if I must, where do I keep my clothes, my wallet, keys, watch, etc.?

I know I must be missing something, like termas are a spa and it is hot and humid, therefore, why get your clothes all sweaty while you find a garota to fuck?

A little help for clarification please?

AJ

OTOH, if you want anal (which I imagine Porker gets regularly in Asia at bargain prices)

Uhmm, it's certainly not RARE in the Philippines, and I've never paid EXTRA, and when a girl gives up the 3rd hole, it's usually not the 4th time that DAY that she's had her cornhole probed, so whatever her reaction is from it, it's pretty damned HONEST.

Those ignorant Asian girls haven't yet learned the joys of lidocaine?

AJ,

The reason you wear robes in main termas is two-fold. One, technically, they are de facto bathhouses - their legal term (termas). But, in reality, it's primarily for a couple of reasons. You can hang out with the girls (garota is Portugues for girl, not hooker) and not have to worry about stinking your clothes up. Also, afterwards, you take a shower, shave, that kind of thing and you can go home to the wife without smelling like you were in a whorehouse.

As far as robes, they do have multiple sizes, probably Larry never asked for a bigger-sized robe. It's usually not the black American guys who sit around with the robes used as towels, that's a brasilian thing. My point about black Americans is there is a growing trend to look different by wearing tennis shoes and such in the bar (boite).

Now, what is in the bar? Well, it's a bar. You're in a robe and flip-flops, the girls are in bikinis and heels. Dance music is blasting, people are drinking and eating, sometimes girls are stripping - it's not a bunch of guys sitting around looking at each other.

They're unique to Brasil, you really have to go to a few to get a real idea of them. They don't really compare to any other venue at all, except maybe to an FKK in Germany and even then, there's minimal similarity.

As far as not wearing street clothes, you can always sit in the whyskeria section of the downtown termas. Same girls, you're just sitting in a more traditional puta-bar setting. Not for me, I don't like having my clothes stunk up and you don't have the movement you do in the termas.

If you don't like robes, you can always go to Sao Paulo, or many other cities in Brazil where they are not used. However, robes do provide good access for the girls to help sell themselves during the interview process (although unlike a German FKK, you won't get complementary blow jobs during this phase, at least not usually).

As far as sitting around between sessions, I suppose if you are alone and not interested in socializing or checking out the women it provides little in the way of benefits (although at some termas, there will be strip shows at certain points during the evening). OTOH, if you are there with a group of guys and want to compare notes, and so forth, it can be helpful. In addition, there is a sauna and steam room you can use before, after, & between sessions.

alec jammer I think theyve been described in detail on the site , and cat pretty much hit the nail on the head they are a place to go and relax/hang out/drink/get laid/get massaged/ take a shower and wash up and your wife will never know ,its a combination strip club, lounge, whore house, sauna, bar, some have restaraunts, I actually like the relaxed robe environment ,I have asked for long robes , luomo has robes that are shaquile oneal sized or nate robinson sized im somewhere inbetween. you can also hang in the whiskerias and avoid the whole robe thing altogether its a little annoying changing back and fourth though at cancun. Dont get the wrong Idea AJ they are the best thing in the whole world we are just nitpicking a little

Okay, I got it.

Thank you for taking the time to explain the logic behind the robe thing. I didn't want to jump to any conclusions, but thankfully we have Porker who calls a spade a spade.

I assume they have a locker room of sorts where you can hang your clothes up with some sort of a lock or security?

While in the terma do you run a tab and pay your bill upon departure (if you are wearing only a robe, where do you keep your wallet/money)...or is it pay as you go?

I can imagine if everyone is wearing the same kind of robe American black dudes would naturally feel the need to uniquely identify themselves so the locals don't confuse them as one of their own.

AJ

You get a locker with a numbered key where you keep your things (although there is a pocket on the robe so you can stash some condoms there if you want or a small digital camera for use in the session rooms only).

You run up the tab against your assigned number and pay when you leave. I have never heard of anyone losing anything from a locker at a terma. I have, however, heard about bill padding so it is prudent to keep track of what you actually consume (I have never personally had that problem though, although since my main drink is mineral water they would have some difficulty padding my bill with expensive alcoholic beverages).

AJ you should go , read the trip reports and discus posts on the termas youll get a clear mental picture from alot of the better writers on here, I promise its like nothing youve experienced

AJ,

I don't think they do it to differentiate themselves from Brasilians. Everyone in the place knows we're not brasilian, robe or not. It's just part of the the "rap fantasy" shit. Usually it's the younger guys, older guys and vets know better.

Bait?

The non-smoking policy in MC went the way of my 401K.

I'd have them take about half the mirrors out of the boite. I don't particularly like it when the girls spend more time primping and admiring themselves endlessly. It's like a damn parrot with a mirror in the cage.

showers that are a little less like going to the electric chair

They are asking for American/Euro prices in a third world developing nation. Unless the girls look like Raica Oliveira or Adriana Lima, these places are asking for about 3 times their value.

not true, i live in NY id say what you get in the termas would be about 500-1000 dollars here for the same quality of sex/ looks of the woman. way better than say asley dupree .if i went to a comparable strip club here it would cost me about 200 for drinks for myself and no sex, you can also just go to a termas and get numbers and set up cheaper side work or just regular dates if you speak portugese. sex isnt obligitory. pay your entrance and thats it the sex is 100 to 150 reais 40 - 60 dollars I know of places in manhattan where a hand job will set you back 150 bucks from a greasy asian or you can go to jackson heights and pick up a horrible mexican street walker for a blowjob in between 2 cars and pray that it isnt a shemale and you dont get arrested. or bang a cute black girl at a hotel party which will cost about 20 for admission 20 to SHARE a room and who may be attractive but who is about as enthusiastic as a rock and not to big on hygene in most cases so there is no comparison to the US , I cant speak of europe I have never been there, have you been to rio?

Check out Raica Oliveira on You Tube under Raica Oliveira - Clipe Sensual!

Wow!

Imagine her waiting for you at the cabine or in your hotel room!

"They are asking for American/Euro prices in a third world developing nation. Unless the girls look like Raica Oliveira or Adriana Lima, these places are asking for about 3 times their value."

Blazers, do you have a clue what you're talking about? Rio is hardly a 3rd world shit hole; it is a world class metropolis that attracts visitors from all over the globe. And the economy of Brazil is very robust. We should be so fortunate to be carrying their surplus and their favorable trade balance. It's only "3rd world" in a historical sense. The standard of living there is way beyond what you find in any of the Asian countries that are considered "developing economies."

The prices you pay for pussy in Brazil are fair market prices given the labor market there. If you choose not to play there, cool. No problems. But at least be informed about what you speak about. And talk about the value of the girls once you've sampled their talents.

Yeah, $170US for a 40 minute ST sounds like an absolute bargain(Centaurus). Like I said, the chick better look like Raica Oliveira for those prices and I have yet to see girls that hot photographed on this site from Brazil....Colombia yes, Brazil no.

By the way, I said Brazil was a 3rd world developing nation, not a 3rd world shithole. I do realize Brazil is kicking ass in the world economy now but the police force, corruption and massive poverty still reeks of a country not fully developed just yet.

so thats 1 whorehouse out of a billion in rio , and from someone whos been to centaurus , you cant get that for 170 in the states.

Ive read some of your reports to see what you were paying incase I was missing something .You were paying what would be in the normal to high range for rio freelancers /escorts , so I really dont get it , you have a ton of reports so I must say I only read the 5 latest I think , btw i loved the trailer park boys references , good stuff.

So come clean what traumatic experience did you have with a Brazillian? why the hard feelings ?

So Blazers, what about the US$300 an hour escorts who advertise on-line in Bangkok? Does that mean that everyone pays $300 for an hour in Thailand? I think not, and you fucking know it.

Explaining Rio to Blazers and Porker is about as useful as explaining nuclear physics to a retarded hillbilly. Neither knows a fucking thing about what they're talking about, but of course they'll critique the place every chance they get.

I have had three good friends go to Rio recently and all came back saying that the girls service was amazing(no shock there), that the girls were ok in the looks department but below Colombian girls and that they were spending $500US a day, including hotels for fucking 2 girls a day in termas, Help and some escorts. I dont mind spending $300US a day but $500 is just fucking outrageous. I hope this new world economy brings them down to earth.

Brazil used to sound like a reasonable mongering destination with hot girls but it sounds like it has been spoiled the same way that Bangkok has been spoiled.

Bangkok, Costa Rica and Rio were the first three victims to overexposure from the internet and PLM mongers with no understanding of the game. I hope Angeles City isnt the next victim.

(Message edited by blazers on March 10, 2009)

Brasil has had strong economic growth the last 4-5 years. Inflation is rising about 10% a year, and the currency doubled in strength. You know that, and know that we've been complaining about it as well. We're very upfront about the doubling of prices over the last couple of years, not just on pussy but on everything. It was almost a tripling of prices, but of course the Real has weakened a third against the dollar the last 5 months, so now everything is just twice as expensive as 5 years ago.

My point is still valid - you pick one clip-joint price and use that as your lever against the place. Guess what, most of us don't go to Centaurus because it isn't worth the price and because it is a clip joint. So, using it as your all-encompassing pricing chart for Rio is as valid as me using a US$300 an hour internet hooker in Bangkok to determine that that's the price you all pay out there.

Blazers
For what it's worth, you can easily do the 'normal' Rio brazilian termas and massage joints for the following budget.

$ 45 1 massage joint
$100 1 normal terma
$ 30 daily food & beers
$ 50 local apartment rental
----
$225

The fact that your friends spent $500 only means that they didn't chose to spend less.

If I go and stay with a friend at his apartment, and do a cheaper massage joint plus a cheaper escort, my daily costs can easily be around $100.

If I go and try to live like a Brazilian? and pay their prices for the shitholes, make it $50/day.

Wait a minute, i just realized that I responded to Blazer's bullshit about brazil. I should know better - it only encourages him :rolleyes:

And who can miss the irony that these complaints are coming from the guy who charges more than $170/hour to screw people?

(Message edited by DonGringo on March 10, 2009)

Blazers,

Your friends must be total rookies. I pay nowhere near $500/day, and I'm staying in a 3-bedroom luxury apartment (with jacuzzi, stereo system, etc.), and banging two termas girls a day.

Yesterday: beach in the morning (on a real beach, not that poor excuse they have in Pattaya) where all I have to do is look left, right or straight ahead to see visions of beauty; lunch at a nice place in Copa; an hour session at 4X4 with a queen of oral sex (but included standard and anal); dinner in Jardin Botanico at a nice cafe; a 40-min. session with a spinner at Solarium who was simply amazing (three holer), while staying in a great place. Both girls were beauties. Total cost: US$320. If you want to fuss about that being too much, you still don't know jack about Brazilian sex.

I don't find the girls of Colombia more or less beautiful than the girls of Brazil. But the Colombianas are generally lighter in complexion, and MANY guys here have a bias against darker girls. Their conception of beauty is white, white, white. Me? I love 'em all.

So if you truly don't mind spending $300/day, come on down. Time to put up or shut up.

Bwana,

I hope you're not doing anything that might clog up the jaccuzi in 201 !

Bwana...is that 3 br apt you stay in on Francisco sa? i know the owner and he charges me $150-$170 per night depending on the time of year.

Yes..201. I got moved there because there was a problem with 202 (which I'd reserved), but am paying the usual 202 price with the Bwana discount (basically, for staying there about a month and a half each year).

Oh, to be middle-aged and financially unencumbered. We Gen-Xers can only dream....

I'm assuming Bwana is middle-aged. If he's not, I need to go back to school.

Bwana Dik is only 25 years old. He started mongering at age 10

I agree Bluestraveller,
If pot were legal in certain places it would make certain little pieces of heaven even more a paradise. It would be nice to be able to smoke a joint in the relax room at Lloumo or Solarium. Last time I was in Boracay I was thinking the Filipinos would have an economic boom if they legalized pot on the island.

SW-

I wish I were middle-aged! But, yes, being at a stage of life where finances aren't much of an issue has its distinct advantages. But I also went to school for a long, long time, and that investment paid off.

BD: Can you share the info on your rental apartment? website? photos?

Bwana....do you know the English gent on the 3rd floor? He is a good friend of mine.

Topfotog-
No website, hence no photos. At least no website that I know of. I rent through the owner's local property manager here. I was introduced to her by Sweetmesquite, who lived in this building.

JR-
Haven't met anyone here. I'm typically in the bldg between 1am and 9 am, and am otherwise out at the beach, wandering Rio, in a termas, or something.

JR, is your place on Francisco Sa' or Sa' Ferrera? BD and the guys stay at the Favela Inn which is on Sa Ferrera.

i stay either at www.myriocondo.com or on the corner of Francisco Sa and Copacabana ave, the same building where there is a police station(donut squad). the one on Fransisco Sa is a 3 br penthouse, jacuzzi,flat screens, balcony with a churasco, king size bed...the works. I think it is financially beneficial in the long run staying in a hot pad then a dump. first off....i enjoy it, secondly, the garotas love hanging out there and i get much more servicing for my money than hitting a termas....dont get me wrong, i love the termas, but they are getting very expensive and i can have a fantastic garota from Help come over and slam the hell out of her all day and night if i want for 150R (especially if its a rainy day)......the trick is, make a daytime date with a Help or TA girl....then have a blast till you kick her out, or keep her around.

Well, I don't think the apartment has much to do with the garota coming over. Most of the places we would call adequate at best are luxury to the vast majority of GdPs. I do agree, comfort is key, but you seem to spend a lot of money for stuff you probably don't ever use.

oh i use it, enjoy it and they do to.....i even gave a garota 50R to go shopping and get some food . we used the churasco and had some people over on a crummy Monday night.....great time!

Yeah, but again - a flush toilet, running hot water and a mattress that isn't lying directly on the floor is all you really need for the garotas to enjoy a place. Actually, all they need is some cash and they'll be happy to fuck you in a hovel, so my advice is to get a place that's adequate for you, and don't worry about trying to impress others, especially the garotas.

J-Roc: Thanks for the info. The price is higher than I'd pay but with 3 bedrooms, it might be OK to share with a wingman. $90usd per person? Is the layout amendable to sharing? From the photos, it looks like it is on a low floor? 3rd?

its on the 12th floor

Cat...i can tell you are a real romantic kinda guy

I just don't feel the need to impress hookers. I'm paying them for a service, I'm not providing a service to them. Yeah, when I stay at the Marriott, the girls like it, but the service I get from them there is the same as the service I get from them at a termas or at the $80 a night apartment I rent from Don. It's always great, regardless of the venue.

Again, of course the girls are happy - they're getting paid. They're working, and a pleasant work environment is always nice, but I wouldn't blow money on overkill.

Cat's last points are well taken. If you want to lavish luxury on yourself, that makes sense. Doing so for the sake of the GPs is unnecessary. The girls are happy to (1) be paid and (2) to spend a few hours in any place nicer than their tiny apartments shared with three other putas. It's highly unlikely one of us could rent a place that isn't a significant improvement on what the girls live with.

My criteria are simple. 1. Internet service. 2. Quiet at night. 3. Comfortable bed. 4. Stereo system. Everything else is pretty much gravy. I wouldn't pay extra for marble countertops, flatscreen TVs, and such.

Back on topic...I would pay extra for a termas with an open air bar, where we could sit outside on a nice evening and drink and play.

Now you are on to something. A terma with an open air patio and bar , plus if they can also do some BarBQ grilling for a buffet spread. That would be heaven.

If Brazil changed it's laws and if you could smoke joint there too....that would be paradise.

Back to the cost issue-

Airfare to Rio = $1097
Apartment for 9 nights = $630
Time spent in termas with Adrielly, Joyce, Doris, etc. = PRICELESS!

And, Blazers, you'll never know until you've tasted the fruits.

An outdoor boite would be really cool. The good ideas keep coming!

If only the termas owners were insightful enough to ‘focus group’ in order to better market their assets. Maybe Hombre could sell them a transcript of this forum thread. Or here’s an idea: have a qualified statistician go over the customer receipts (which no doubt go back several years) and run an analysis 20 different ways to establish customer trends in a statistically valid way. Seeing how each and every customer is accounted for and his spending habits in the termas are faithfully recorded, it would be like shooting fish in a barrel. The data is already there and ripe for the taking.

That way they could set their cost structure in a way that makes sense and takes any number of variables into account. Seems like it would be a no-brainer to me.

Then again, the bottom line is that the termas and their owners seem to make money in spite of themselves.

I guess they don't need to be smart or sophisticated because they have the global market cornered on their particular venue.

I love 4x4 but I wish the spiked heels in the top of my foot could be avoided. Garotas look fantastic in 4" spiked heels but it is painful when slammed in the center of your flip flop covered foot because the place is so crowded. - and twice on the same foot in one night - nasty.

sometimes the long wait between giving your key and getting a room can be a downer - be nice if you could slip one in right there in the boite.

speaking of which anyone ever had bj or sex in the boite?

"anyone ever had bj or sex in the boite?"

only a handjob. I leave the real sex shows to the Donkey [pro].

CFK

bar jaguar otherwise you would have to rebuild the place after his visit.one of the reason he still is allowed to vila mimosa is the place cant get worse.i heard a few rumours about meia pataca on my last visit in rio

Bar CFK!

Ground zero,

I agree about a terma with an open air patio and bar. Hang outside during nice weather and retire to the inside later or when the love muscle needs working out.

Oh, Latinalover:

"anyone ever had bj or sex in the boite?"


I got a BBBJ from a garota named Aylah in the upstairs boite at Cancun about 2 years ago. The girl was very sexy and her friend was sitting on the other side of me enjoying the show.

"A terma with an open air patio and bar , plus if they can also do some BarBQ grilling for a buffet spread. That would be heaven.".

There is a place that exists, which has courtyard with BBQ, patio and a pool, called Ancora Do Recreio. You can rent it out and have private parties

http://www.ancoradorecreio.com.br/


"real restaurants connected to the boite"

Solarium formed a relationship with the cafe/restaurant across the street called Caroline Cafe. The burgers are quite good, the sushi is pretty horrible. Still, they have a decent menu to select from:

http://www.carolinecafe.com.br/cardapio/principal.html


What would make a Termas better?

#1: Dog tags with abbreviations of services provided by each garota -- BBBJ, CIM, ANAL, etc.
It would have saved me a lot of time upfront making small talk and interviewing had I known beforehand.

Actually, that is the fun part of the termas. You can openly discuss with the garota what she will and won't do upstairs. Most garotas consider it part of the job and have no issues talking about your perverted, demented little sexual fantasies. What ever sick shit you dream up, I guarantee you it is nothing usual compared to what the Brasilieros ask for. I had heard of a monger that wanted to fuck a girl in the ass without a condom and cum in her ass....my understanding was he would always find a willing participant. When the rent is due at the end of the month...I guess these girls will do anything if the extra **tip** is right.

I have not traveled around the globe likes others have posted, but I don't think I have come another type of establishments were you interview and interview until you find a girl who will agree to what you want. Termas are truly unique in this regards. And what goes on between you and her is your business behind closed cabine doors.

Not familiar with this part of Rio?

How far from Centro or Copacabana?

Interesting.

MM

MM.

If you are asking about Termas Acora do Recreio...then it is obviously in Recreio (the next suburb past Barra da Tijuca). You can take a bus or van there. If you have a private car even better since a taxi fare would probably cost 40-50R one way. It is good 40 minutes or so from Copa.
BTW, this termas is pretty much down the block from Paris Cafe. I think Paris Cafe sucks, but at least that is 2 options.